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Ukraine just rewrote the rules of war
2025-06-02
[Wash Post Max Boot] The Ukrainians rewrote the rules of warfare again on Sunday. The Russian high command must have been as shocked as the Americans were in 1941 when the Ukrainians carried out a surprise attack against five Russian air bases located far from the front — two of them thousands of miles away in the Russian Far North and Siberia. The Ukrainian intelligence service, known as the SBU, managed to sneak large numbers of drones deep inside Russia in wooden cabins transported by truck, then launch them by remote control.
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Posted by:KBK

#21  With Reckless Attack, Ukrainians Hope to Drag USA into WWIII
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2025-06-02 18:21  

#20  I read somewhere this week that the bombers had been removed from nuclear capability. If I can find I'll post.
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed   2025-06-02 17:57  

#19  
Posted by: Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435   2025-06-02 15:55  

#18  
Posted by: Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435   2025-06-02 15:52  

#17  
Posted by: Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435   2025-06-02 15:51  

#16  ^ could be why so many were moved to DG.

We plebs often cannot see beyond our rotor plane.
Posted by: Skidmark   2025-06-02 14:54  

#15  How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?

Could be somebody already did something that we'll all regret.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2025-06-02 14:13  

#14  CTH this morning:
"Zelensky’s Gauntlet – Did Ukraine Just Draw the USA and NATO Closer to War with Russia by Targeting Russian Strategic Long-Range Bombers Covered by SALT and START Treaties?

June 2, 2025 | Sundance | 724 Comments

First the cliff notes version: There’s an important detail to remember. People are laughing at the long-range Russian bombers being left out in the open, vulnerable to attack. However, the bomber visibility is required as part of several nuclear agreements between the USA and Russia (SALT and START). Our U.S. long range nuclear capable bombers, covered under the same agreements, are also visible. Ukraine President Zelenskyy is playing with fire by targeting them, which also explains why Zelenskyy never told President Trump in advance.

The U.S and NATO have provided the means. However, #1) did Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy just exploit a vulnerability by targeting Russian long-range nuclear capable bombers? and #2) was the CIA and NATO intelligence community a willfully blind participant knowing they would benefit?

Both the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) and the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), call for U.S. and Russian long range nuclear capable bombers to remain “visible and observable by national technical means of verification.” That open visibility creates a mutual vulnerability as well as a method of surveillance and verification for both the USA and Russian Federation."...
:Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and by extension his NATO enablers, just exploited that SALT/START vulnerability and used drones to attack Russian bombers covered by USA-Russia treaties. There are reports (and videos) now surfacing from inside Russia showing the Russian Federation moving strategic long-range mobile missile launchers into position for a counterattack against Ukraine.

This situation is obviously very fluid and let us all hope that President Trump and President Putin are in communication about this escalation as created by Zelenskyy and his enablers, even if -and probably especially if- our own intelligence agencies are part of the enabling.

Think about the ramifications of NATO enabled Ukraine targeting major Russian military assets which are vulnerable only because they are part of a previously agreed U.S-Russia negotiation to remain vulnerable. In essence, an argument can be made by Russia that NATO -and by extension us- have targeted nuclear capable missile systems, and those systems were protected by the SALT/START treaties. How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?"
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2025-06-02 14:04  

#13  SBU is more the spiritual successor to KGB than the FSB.
Posted by: mossomo   2025-06-02 12:46  

#12  Germany may become engaged with their own struggles.

More than a million Muslims in Germany with a 'migrant background' are at risk of being radicalised, study finds
Posted by: Skidmark   2025-06-02 12:29  

#11  Many in the US, and Mr. Trump himself, make noises about backing off the big mess altogether and dissociating from a NATO alliance that has lost its purpose and meaning, becoming, in fact, a menace to our interests.

Ever since the USSR went kaput I thought the only reason for the US to stay involved with NATO is to keep the Germans from starting another war. Somebody needs to sit on those globalist war mongers before they do something we'll all regret.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2025-06-02 12:17  

#10  Among James Kunstler's comments today:
You might recall a week ago, Chancellor Merz declared that Germany gave Ukraine “permission” to carry out long-range strikes into Russia. Smooth move, Friedrich. He is, apparently, unaware that in so-doing he automatically gave Russia permission to strike deep into Germany as well, which Russia has not yet done.

and also
All of this puts Mr. Trump in a bind. His efforts to negotiate peace are on-the-rocks for now, as is his (America’s) ability to control the maniac globalist warmongers of NATO. Many in the US, and Mr. Trump himself, make noises about backing off the big mess altogether and dissociating from a NATO alliance that has lost its purpose and meaning, becoming, in fact, a menace to our interests.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2025-06-02 11:43  

#9  I think of drones as long range stealth artillery.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2025-06-02 11:36  

#8  Slick as pager battery bombs ...
Posted by: Skidmark   2025-06-02 11:29  

#7  I will admit I didn't read past the first paragraph. Some of you didn't read past the byline which I totally understand. I just don't see how the rules of war have changed. It seems pretty simple: Kill the other guy and destroy his stuff before he does it to you. The introduction of new weapons has never changed that.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2025-06-02 11:03  

#6  The attack seems real enough with new video footage of Russian bombers in flames. Ukraine covertly infiltrated short ranged drones in civilian trucks next to Russian bases.

This is a wake-up call for anti-drone base defense.
Especially since the CCP has been buying up farmland next to American bases.
Posted by: Difar Dave   2025-06-02 10:30  

#5  I stopped reading at the byline. Max Boot, ah ... nope
Posted by: Chicago Lurker   2025-06-02 08:45  

#4  ...[cough] Kamala [cough]
Posted by: Procopius2k   2025-06-02 07:21  

#3  Nobody bets on a losing horse.
Posted by: Besoeker   2025-06-02 06:16  

#2  I'm as skeptical of the author, Max Boot. Still a waste of oxygen.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2025-06-02 03:47  

#1  One'd assume that, after 3 years of war, Americans (no matter how that specific individual hates/fears Russia) would learn to take Ukrainian success claims with a grain of salt.
Posted by: Grom the Affective   2025-06-02 02:18  

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