[New York Post] A group of pistol-packing teens and a 12-year-old girl are facing murder charges after they allegedly robbed and shot to death a rising country music star in Nashville, police said.
The accused killers accosted 24-year-old Kyle Yorlets behind his home and opened fire when he refused to give them his car keys, they said.
The suspects were identified as Diamond Lewis, 15; Roniyah McKnight, 14; Decorrius Wright, 16; as well as the 12-year-old and a 13-year-old boy whose names were withheld because of their ages.
Prosecutors plan to charge them as adults, the Nashville Tennessean reported.
Police said the victim had been a random target.
"He’s an absolute, absolute innocent victim," police spokesman Don Arron said. He added, "none of the five individuals [arrested] are a stranger to the system or this police department."
Cops had been out searching for the 12-year-old, who had run away from home, since Thursday morning, the newspaper said.
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Now, now, I’m sure they were only going from choir practice to volunteer down at the homeless shelter and needed a ride after stopping to help a bunch of puppies and baby ducks cross the street.
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Honestly, I don't care how terrible of things they did. It is bull that 12 and 13 year olds can be charged as adults. Especially the 12 year old, who is not even a teenager yet. You are delusional if you think these people (people, not animals) could not be reformed by the time they have come to majority at 18. Yes, it would take work, rather than just throwing them in a tiny cage like jails tend to do. But the government not wanting to do work isn't really a good argument for exempting them from doing it.
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I knew Kyle. He was a friend of my son, a nice guy and had talent.
Two takeaways.
Don't be a hero. Kyle should have given them the car keys. I don't know if he saw the gun before he refused, but his life was not worth a car.
Vernal Hatrack could not be more wrong. When the cops say "none of the five individuals [arrested] are a stranger to the system or this police department" you know you're talking about bad people. You're delusional if you think anything can be done to make them into constructive member of society. It's not the government's job to reform these people, it was their parents. They failed.
I'd be happy to execute them with a clear conscience knowing their reign of misery for others was ended and they were out of the gene pool.
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Sure could be done Mrs Davis - but not in the current sociopolitical climate.
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Having demonstrated barbaric behavior how are they entitled to a second chance when aborted-at-birth infants in New York, Virginia (and you can bet other blue states too, soon now) never got a chance at all?
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Kyle Yorlets doesn't get a second chance and these vermin wasted a lot of second chances.
Put the parents in jail, use the vermin as fertiliser.
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The reality is, we'll feed and shelter them until their release which will probably be in 8-10 years (or possibly less). By that time they will have matured and attained masters degrees in criminal conduct while behind bars. If not put down, they will surely murder and pillage again.
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Recently, an anti-gun prosecutor went to court with the argument that a defendant who killed in self defense demonstrated a "predisposition" to kill by having hollow points in his pistol. Fortunately the guy was acquitted as it was in fact self defense. By the prosecutor's argument, these creatures showing up with a loaded gun demonstrated a predisposition to kill also. Any argument they might make that "they just wanted to scare" the victim goes out the window when they shot him.
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Vernal __ The Jesuits used to say that if they could have a child until he was 7 years old, they'd have him for life. These mokes are set in their ways and a true change would be vanishingly rare.
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I'd like Vernal to house them with his family upon release. Show us your "compassion". Your wife and kids? Expendable chips in the SJW virtue signalling, amirite?
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Compassion has NOTHING to do with this. If anyone can be charged as an adult at any time, why have the fake protections of "juvenile court"? The inevitable answer is that so some people can game the system, while others are punished. There should be no exemptions or exceptions to be laws. If there crimes and ages automatically put them in one category, the prosecutor should not ever, ever, be able to choose to put them in another category just because. I don't care about the circumstances. I don't care about the crime. Justice is blind, or at least it is supposed to be. And if people are really unable to be reformed, chop their flipping heads off and be done with it. Somehow I think you would blanch if that was done in the town square of your town. People like you think that cruelty under the law is fine, as long as you are separated from it, as long as it is sanitized and masked under the guise of the state doing its duty to protect people. Well, it's not.
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These children are the exact freaking reason why institutions like state orphanages and state mental institutions used to exist, and should still. If prison is not about reforming people, then releasing them at all, ever, after conviction for a murder or rape or kidnapping is a mistake. Is that the "justice" system you want? Where everything is punishable by death, like some savage sh**hole country that breeds ignorance and death as quickly as terrorists?
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If prison is not about reforming people, then releasing them at all, ever, after conviction for a murder or rape or kidnapping is a mistake.
By George, I think he's got it.
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People like you think that cruelty under the law is fine, as long as you are separated from it, as long as it is sanitized and masked under the guise of the state doing its duty to protect people.
I agree. That is why I think we should have public executions broadcast live.
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I seriously doubt prison reforms very many people. Locking criminals up is a form of punishment, but the main value is it gets them away from the rest of us.
I'd like to believe that no one is beyond redemption. However, for kids this young to be committing murder says they've lost their way a long time ago. It might be possible to fix them, but it would take half a decade of something like Marine boot camp. And the first year would not be pretty.
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We are all for equality before the law until it comes to punishment. Then every adjectivial descriptive is used to undermine the whole concept. We shift from being judged for the crime to bring judged for who the person is.
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"You are delusional if you think these people (people, not animals) could not be reformed by the time they have come to majority at 18."
What a joke. They'll never get beyond being thugs, and anyone who tries reforming them is just setting themselves up to be victimized.
If you really think there's anything left.worth saving,YOU DO IT. On your dime. And you take responsibility for any and all crimes they commit afterward.
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"Locking criminals up is a form of punishment, but the main value is it gets them away from the rest of us."
FOR THEIR PROTECTION. Vernal doesn't understand that the law-abiding won't be if "misguided youths" are permitted to murder and treated as if they're the real victims.
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1) A criminal justice system that is full of exceptions is garbage and easily corruptible. Nothing any of you said changes that. 2) Our system is already corrupt; see the Trump investigation. 3) Wait until the child of a politico that you think is doing good work is abducted out of the house by a police organization that disagrees, and charged as an adult. Cases like this set firm precedent for a prosecutor being able to do that when they very well please. 4) I know very well that the reason most of you are so cavalier about this is that you cannot believe that this could ever come back to haunt you. You are wrong.
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To the last comment. They are not the real victims. Not even close. I am not pretending they are. But you are also seeming to shut your eyes to the possibility that a person could ever change, and that the government should ever have anything to do with this process. Both of those things are, on all levels, ridiculous. We would all agree that a good person can go bad. It seems like most of you here would shriek heresy if a bad person every tried to become good.
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A few do figure it out in prison, where they ar separate from the myriad distractions of the outside world. But given the high percentage with low IQs and undiagnosed mental illnesses, the odds, sadly, are not good.
[New York Post] Prosecutors initially included a charge of abortion against the Queens man arrested Friday in his pregnant girlfriend’s murder ‐ but rescinded it because of Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s new Reproductive Health Act.
Queens District Attorney Richard Brown sent out a press release saying Anthony Hobson, 48, would be charged with second-degree abortion as well as murder in Sunday’s fatal stabbing of Jennifer Irigoyen, 35.
But a DA spokeswoman later told The Post that the abortion charge "was repealed by the Legislature, and this is the law as it exists today."
Cuomo signed the RHA into law on Jan. 22, the 46th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision.
The law removes abortion from the state’s criminal code and puts it into public health law.
It faced fierce opposition, with the New York State Catholic Conference warning that it "removes accountability for those who would harm unborn children outside the context of medical termination of pregnancy."
Cuomo’s office did not comment on the murder case.
[NYPOST] A woman who authorities say killed her husband and dismembered his body has been sentenced in an Ohio courtroom to at least 20 years in prison. How long is he gonna be dead?
The Akron Beacon Journal reports 50-year-old Marcia Eubank, of Coventry Township, pleaded guilty to murder, tampering with evidence and gross abuse of a corpse charges in December. Eubank was sentenced Friday in Akron.
Prosecutors say she shot 54-year-old Howard Eubank during a domestic dispute in June 2017, used power and hand tools to cut up his body, and placed his remains in storage containers. The couple’s adult son found one of the containers the following December. Ewwww. I bet that was traumatic
Family and neighbors thought Howard Eubank was driving a truck in Texas during those months.
A defense attorney said Eubank was physically and mentally abused by her husband.
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I'll bet the mental abuse was all from the wife.
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One would have thought that a man capable of putting together an empire of the magnitude of El Chapo's would have some kind of a clue about the chances of a (any) Mexican politician staying bought.
[Breitbart] Oklahoma’s House Public Safety Committee passed legislation this week designed to end the concealed carry permit requirement in the state.
71 Republic reported that the legislation, HB 2579, would make Oklahoma the fifteenth permitless carry state. This would mean nearly a third of all states allow guns to be carried openly or concealed for self-defense based on the Second Amendment alone.
On May 12, 2018, Breitbart News reported that similar legislation passed the Oklahoma House on April 25, 2018, by a vote of 59-28. It passed the Senate on May 2, 2018, by a vote of 33 to 9. But then-Gov. Mary Fallin (R) vetoed it.
The Herald-Dispatch reported, however, that Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) "has said he will sign it."
On January 31, 2019, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) signed legislation removing her state’s concealed carry permit requirement. With Noem’s signature, South Dakota became the fourteenth state to do away with a permit requirement. The other 13 states are Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Vermont.
Not everyone is pleased with this legislation. Christine Jackson of Oklahoma’s Moms Demand Action said it is "disheartening" that she and her fellow gun controllers have to fight against permitless carry again.
#1
I think personally that rules on arming Police and populace should be the same.
Based on Peel's Principle #7 PRINCIPLE 7 “Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.”
[Washington Examiner] EAGLE PASS, TEXAS ‐ The Trump administration has flooded the Texas border town that sits just over the river from the Mexican city where 1,800 caravan migrants arrived earlier this week with hundreds of law enforcement personnel.
More than 100 U.S. police vehicles lined a one-mile stretch of the Rio Grande River in Eagle Pass, Texas, Saturday afternoon. Sixty sat together in one section of the river on a local golf course.
The massive "show of force" ‐ as Border Patrol is calling it ‐ is meant to deter Central Americans from illegally entering the country, as large groups attempted in San Diego, Calif., last November and again on New Year’s Eve.
"To me, it’s like showing force. It would give a message to the immigrants that want to come illegally through Texas that Texas is always prepared and have a lot of manpower at the border ‐ that they would go to another state," said Maverick County Sheriff Tom Schmerber told the Washington Examiner.
Dozens of pickup trucks, SUVs, and cars belonging to Customs and Border Protection, Border Patrol, and state troopers within the Texas Department of Public Safety were lined up on the edge of the Eagle Pass Golf Course.
Schmerber said 500 Department of Public Safety personnel have been moved to Eagle Pass. That figure does not include the Border Patrol that came from other regions of the state.
Military troops, including active-duty, National Guard, and Texas State Guard, were also spotted on the golf course. An additional 250 are expected to arrive in the coming days.
[Breitbart] Suspects who allegedly entered a Brevard County, Florida, home Thursday and pointed a gun at woman’s head were shot dead by the woman’s son.
News 6 reported that 20-year-old Alvin Smalls and 18-year-old Amir Rashad Lynn allegedly broke into the home at a time when the mother’s son was in the house asleep. The son awoke to strange sounds, only to discover the suspects allegedly had his mother at gunpoint.
The son shot the suspects. Smalls died in the home and Lynn fled, only to die later at a hospital.
[Sky News] A no-deal Brexit would lead to "potentially devastating" consequences for the peace process in Northern Ireland, according to former prime minister Tony Blair.
In a wide-ranging interview with Sky News' Sophy Ridge, the once Labour Party leader warned of a hard border if the UK leaves the EU without agreements in place for what the future relationship will look like.
He dismissed Brexiteer claims that leaving with no deal would not be detrimental to Britain's economy.
Mr Blair told Sky News: "No one could responsibly propose this [a no-deal Brexit]. It would be economically very, very dangerous for Britain and for the peace process in Northern Ireland, it would potentially be devastating.
#4
Here's an idea: just give it back to the Irish. It relieves a massive headache and security issue for Britain and sticks the Irish Republic with the bill and headache for figuring out how to integrate the two "Irish" societies.
It will keep the Irish busy for a decade at least, sort of like East and West Germany.
[London Independent] Decree follows court order forcing archdiocese to pay almost £2.5m in compensation over sexual exploitation of minors.
A Brazilian Catholic archbishop has banned priests in his district from being alone with children.
Manoel Delson, archbishop of the northeastern state of Paraiba, signed the decree on Wednesday following a court order forcing the archdiocese to pay almost £2.5m in compensation over the sexual exploitation of minors.
Mr Delson’s decree prohibits priests from being in the company of children and vulnerable adults unaccompanied by their parents or guardians.
It also states they are not allowed to offer parish accommodation to minors, while "spiritual care" must be done in confessionals or locations that "ensure safety and visibility", according to Brazilian newspaper Globo.
The decree was signed the same day Pope Francis for the first time admitted the Catholic Church has an ongoing problem with priests and even bishops who sexually abuse nuns.
[AlAhram] Venezuelan state-run oil company PDVSA is taking steps to remove at least two American executives from the board of directors at its U.S. subsidiary, Citgo Petroleum Corp, according to people close to the matter.
Efforts to reshuffle the Citgo board come as Venezuelan opposition leader and self-proclaimed president Juan Guaido plans to appoint his own board at the country's top foreign asset and use its revenues to finance the removal of President Nicolas Maduro Venezuela's attempt at producing a Muammar Qadaffy... .
[PULSE.NG] An active-duty Venezuelan army colonel who is a military doctor has dropped his allegiance to President Nicolas Maduro Venezuela's attempt at producing a Muammar Qadaffy... , backing opposition leader Juan Guaido instead.
"Ninety percent of us in the armed forces are really unhappy," said Colonel Ruben Paz Jimenez said in a video released Saturday. "We are being used to keep them in power."
He urged his fellow soldiers to help allow humanitarian aid into Venezuela. The shipment of US aid is currently in Cucuta, Colombia, on the border.
Maduro has vowed to prevent the aid from entering, labeling it a precursor of a US invasion.
A week ago, Air Force General Francisco Yanez also dropped his allegiance to Maduro. The military's backing is critical to the sway of power in Venezuela.
Venezuela's self-proclaimed acting president Guaido on Friday refused to rule out the possibility of authorizing United States intervention to help force President Nicolas Maduro from power and alleviate a humanitarian crisis.
The opposition leader launched a bid to oust Maduro last month, declaring himself interim president, a move recognized by the US and around 50 other countries, including 20 from the European Union ...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing... .
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[NYPOST] For members of Venezuela’s democratic underground, it’s just a matter of time before Nicolas Maduro Venezuela's attempt at producing a Muammar Qadaffy... , the country’s socialist dictator, is forced to step down.
"Civil society is no longer supporting Maduro, and babus bureaucrats are no longer doing what the government wants them to do," said a longtime opposition leader who served time in jail for helping his countrymen vote.
The former political prisoner, who lives with his family in an upscale Caracas suburb and spoke exclusively to The Post last week, refused to be identified for fear of being rounded up by roving bands of paramilitaries sent by "an increasingly desperate Maduro" to crack down on opposition, he said.
"I have to work without public exposure right now, or I risk going back to jail and not being able to do anything," said the activist engineer who endured months in solitary confinement for his pro-democracy activities. He was released last year, but was forced under house arrest.
Still, he said he continued to work in secret, trading coded text messages with his fellow activists using Whats App ‐ "the most secure way of communicating," he said.
After the house arrest was lifted a few months ago, he was prohibited from leaving the country and has to report to local authorities every few weeks.
But despite being forced further underground, he said he was "elated" by the recent turn of events in Venezuela after the Trump administration officially recognized Juan Guaido, who proclaimed himself the country’s interim leader after becoming president of the National Assembly.
"That recognition sent a big surge of hope among most of my countrymen," the activist said. "It gave us renewed energy to continue fighting."
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He is the true Oppo Leader. But Wuan Yuaido Locked the opposition in.
[Sunday Express] ONE of Moscow’s most influential diplomats has pledged to do 'everything' in his power to stop the US from deploying missiles close to its border.
Deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov warned Washington not to deploy medium-range missiles near Russia’s borders in Eastern Europe on Thursday. Mr Ryabkow warned of the consequences of the US deploying weapons in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The deployment of those missiles would have violated the now defunct Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces which the US withdrew from last week followed by Russia a day later.
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It's funny that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania aren't being forced to accept the missiles, they're asking for them to be based in their countries to protect themselves from, guess who?
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I do not suspect maleficence here, but instead opportunity. A U.S. Navy seal - about as hyperpatriotic as you can get - who is being let into the interior of the Chinese entity that is supposed to manage the entire Chinese banking system? https://t.co/szLr8oyKDM
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“I am a businessman, not a politician, but I am also a proud American who would never do anything against my country’s national interest,” Prince said in a phone interview.
Hmmmmmmmmm here's an idea
dont do biz with the Chi Comm Scum, period, end of discussion
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Our lovely nation wanted to arrest him, throw him in supermax until his trial, for what? Doing to the letter of the United States Governments contract. He lived in exile for years until it was realized he did nothing wrong. Let me ask? Would you trust our government if you were high profile? We are lucky he is not fighting against the USA...
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you are correct about him getting screwed but working with the Chi Comms.......... there must be something I'm missing
PARIS (AP) ‐ A French yellow vest protester’s hand was ripped apart Saturday during violent clashes in Paris as demonstrators tried to storm the French National Assembly in a 13th consecutive week of unrest.
Police said the injured protester lost four fingers as police swooped in to stop protesters from breaching the parliament’s exterior. Police could not confirm French media reports that the hand of the demonstrator, who is now being treated in the hospital, was blown up by a grenade used to disperse unruly crowds.
As scuffles broke out in front of the National Assembly and French police responded with tear gas, paramedics huddled around the injured protester at the National Assembly gates.
Police used batons and fired tear gas in Paris to disperse demonstrators, some of whom threw debris at riot police. Cars, motorbikes and trash bins were set ablaze as the protest moved toward the city’s Invalides monument and onto the Eiffel Tower.
French Interior Minister Christophe Castaner went to Twitter to express his "disgust" as protesters set alight an anti-terror military car. Its yellow smoking plumes, against the backdrop of the Eiffel Tower, made for a powerful image of rejecting authority.
Such vehicles have been a common sight in Paris since deadly extremist attacks in 2015.
[DW] As President Macron's approval bounces back, yellow vest protesters hope to convert notoriety into electoral success. The movement has brought hundreds of thousands of people out into the streets across La Belle France.
At least one demonstrator was injured as La Belle France's yellow vest protests entered their 13th week on Saturday. At least 10 protesters were tossed in the calaboose You have the right to remain silent... after scuffles broke out with police near the Palais Bourbon, where the National Assembly meets.
While many demonstrators marched peacefully, some masked activists tried to break down barriers outside the parliament. Others threw projectiles at police, who responded with tear gas and stun grenades to disperse crowds.
Others vandalized bus shelters and set fire to garbage cans and vehicles, mostly luxury cars. Interior Minister Christophe Castaner expressed his "indignation and disgust," considering at least one vehicle belonged to La Belle France's anti-terrorism police.
The protests have brought hundreds of thousands of people out onto the streets all over La Belle France. Initially voicing opposition to President Emmanuel Macron's planned tax hikes on fuel, protesters temporarily suspended action on roads, businesses, and even the government. Scores of people have been injured and hundreds arrested since the protests began in November.
Gay Paree police said a demonstrator lost four fingers when riot officers stopped protesters from storming the National Assembly. Witnesses told the French AFP news agency that the man's hand had been torn apart when a flash-ball grenade went kaboom!. Another man, who was reportedly seen in front of a line of riot police, had blood streaming down his face.
Thousands of protesters also turned out in the French cities of Marseille and Montpellier, as well as in Bordeaux, Toulouse ...lies on the banks of the River Garonne, half-way between the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea. The Toulouse metropolitan area is the fourth-largest in La Belle France... , and several cities in La Belle France's north and west.
Interior Ministry figures released at 2:00 p.m. local time put the turnout across La Belle France at 12,100, of whom 4,000 marched in Gay Paree, down on the previous week's figures.
MACRON BOUNCES BACK
The demonstrations appeared to be losing steam as Macron acquiesced to some demands and has embarked on a nationwide town hall tour to learn more about people's grievances. Recent polls have suggested that his approval rating is back on the rise.
At the same time, some yellow vest participants have been looking to capitalize on the movement's momentum and turn it into electoral success, which could prove tricky as they are very loosely organized and have no specific leadership.
To that end, some yellow vest demonstrators met with Italia's populist Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio, who said he offered them advice on turning a citizen's movement into a political party. The meeting touched off a row between La Belle France and Italia, marking a low point in relations between the two founding EU nations. On Friday, Di Maio refused to apologize and accused Macron of playing "political games."
In Gay Paree, several thousand marched on Saturday beside symbols of power such as the National Assembly and Senate.
Though mainly peaceful, some protesters threw objects at security forces, a scooter and a police van were set on fire, and some shop windows were smashed.
One participant's hand was severely injured when he tried to pick up a so-called "sting-ball grenade" used by police to disperse crowds with teargas, a police source told Rooters.
Another man had blood streaming down his face in front of a line of riot police.
The Interior Ministry put the total number of protesters around La Belle France at 12,000, including 4,000 in Gay Paree. The police source, however, said numbers were higher, with 21,000 demonstrators taking part in rallies outside Gay Paree.
[DAWN] A man was rubbed out on Friday outside a sessions court in Lahore by unidentified cycle of violence riders, DawnNewsTV reported.
The victim, Bilal Azeem, had arrived in court to secure interim bail in a case registered against him when two men arrived on a cycle of violence and opened fire, police said. He went titzup while his attackers expeditiously departed at a goodly pace.
His body was shifted to Mayo Hospital by the personnel of Islampura cop shoppe. A post-mortem examination is yet to be held.
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[UNIAN] The commander of Sweden's air force, Mats Helgesson, recently made the bold statement that his country's Saab Gripen E fighter could beat Russia's formidable fleet of Sukhoi jets with none of the expensive stealth technology the US relies on. "Gripen, especially the E-model, is designed to kill Sukhois.
There we have a black belt," Helgesson told Yle.fi at a presentation in Finland, where Sweden is trying to export the jets, Business Insider reports. The Gripen can't carry the most weapons, has no real stealth, isn't the longest-range, fastest, or even cheapest jet, but it has a singular focus that makes it a nightmare for Russia's fighter jets. Virtually all modern jets conduct some degree of electronic warfare, but according to Bronk, the Gripen E stands above the rest.
Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/world/10440369-sweden-says-it-built-russian-fighter-jet-killer.html
I think it's possible that some of the more...awkward phrasing...in that article is the result of a poor translation. The Gripen is very, very, very good - in terms of electronics it's comparable with anything we've got, and in a dogfight (and remember nobody WANTS a dogfight; you want to whack them with missiles at medium to long range) it's every bit as good as the -35.
On top of that, it carries the Meteor missile - not quite the range of our AIM-120, but there are indications that it's faster and more accurate. If these things are data-linked like the 120s on our aircraft (that is; they can get targeting data from ground stations or AWACS and the launching birds never even have to turn on their radars) then the Russians are likely to get a lot worse than just a bloody nose from the Swedes.
In the past, the Swedes have built some very good and capable aircraft - they just haven't talked too much about it. They have a world-class fighter in service, they have quietly done a lot of...'discussing'...with NATO and the US about defending their country with it, and Mats wasn't just making a sales pitch.
That was also a warning.
Mike
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The question you've to ask yourself Mike is how many of these superior aircraft they have compared to the many inferior aircraft Russians have.
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On top of that, it carries the Meteor missile - not quite the range of our AIM-120, but there are indications that it's faster and more accurate.
It vastly outranges the AIM-120. That the whole point of using air as the oxidizer. It also has lower peak velocity and I'd bet my left arm the seeker (derived from French MICA missile) is not as good as the AIM-120 C-7 or D.
FYI: MBDA is partnering with Japan to incorporate their AAM-4B missile seeker into Meteor.
That said, the Gripen-E w/ Meteor is expected to outperform the Su-27-35 series in BVR, primarily due to Meteor and Sukhoi's honking big radar cross section. Still the Gripen-E could use a better radar.
In WVR, I would bet on the Sukhois beat up on Gripen due to limitations in angle of attack inherent in delta-canard aircraft. I.e. It can't point it's nose like a Sukhoi or Hornet.
The Gripen can't carry the most weapons, has no real stealth, isn't the longest-range, fastest, or even cheapest jet
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This is a silly story. Sweden is not in NATO by their own choice. If the Russians come, no other country is going do much to help them.
Further, if the Russians are going in, they aren't just going to fly a few squadrons of fighters over to Sweden to clear out their air force. Their planes would be accompanied by land and sea based air defenses, and peremptory missile fires on the Swedish bases, radars, and infrastructure. Marines would be landing in Gotland and the Archipelago. Protected by submarines and air once in forward positions, they would set up additional logistics and support. It would be an absolute wipeout of the Swedish forces that have been allowed to waste away for decades. The Swedish government would be displaced in a week or two. The surviving ten million Swedes would be deported to Siberia and replaced with ethnic Russians. The nation would cease to exist.
Yes, a few Russian aircraft would be lost to your overpriced under-performing airplane. Big deal.
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