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Gay wedding cake: "Narrow" Victory for Religious Rights
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Home Front: Politix
Va. high court invalidates McAuliffe's order restoring felon voting rights
[WashingtonPost] Gov. Terry McAuliffe's decision to restore voting rights to more than 200,000 felons violates Virginia's constitution, the state Supreme Court ruled Friday, dealing a major blow to the Democratic governor with implications for the November presidential race in the crucial swing state.
Illegals and Felons - Democrat Base™
In a 4-to-3 decision, the court ruled that McAuliffe overstepped his clemency powers by issuing a sweeping order in April restoring rights to all ex-offenders who are no longer incarcerated or on probation or parole.

The court agreed with state Republicans who challenged McAuliffe's order, arguing that the governor can only restore voting rights on a case-by-case basis and not en masse.

"Never before have any of the prior 71 Virginia Governors issued a clemency order of any kind ‐ including pardons, reprieves, commutations, and restoration orders ‐ to a class of unnamed felons without regard for the nature of the crimes or any other individual circumstances relevant to the request," Chief Justice Donald W. Lemons wrote for the majority. "To be sure, no Governor of this Commonwealth, until now, has even suggested that such a power exists."
"Have you heard of Arkancide? Puh-leeez"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/04/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Illegals and Felons - Democrat Base™

This is a bit unfair. There are plenty of felons in the mid and upper ranks of the Democratic party.
Posted by: SteveS || 06/04/2018 0:47 Comments || Top||

#2  "dealing a major blow to Dems"

I was rather hoping for a.....death blow
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/04/2018 1:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Illegals and Felons - Democrat Base

What about the dead?
Posted by: gorb || 06/04/2018 1:06 Comments || Top||

#4  In a 4-to-3 decision, the court ruled that McAuliffe overstepped his clemency powers by issuing a sweeping order in April restoring rights to all ex-offenders who are no longer incarcerated or on probation or parole.
Silly me! That does rather sound like something that the State Legislature should pass a law on first, what? That is, if said Legislature originally passed a law taking said voting rights away from felons, but, you see, I'm not a progressive so I think things like that...
Posted by: magpie || 06/04/2018 1:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Kissing up to felons and MS13 to stay in power. This proves the advice, every time you see a Dimocrat, hide your wallet.
Posted by: Ulaigum Ebbineng7056 || 06/04/2018 1:42 Comments || Top||

#6  McAuliffe tried to restore felon's rights? Was he just trying to pave the road for himself in case of possible election fraud and money laundering charges/convictions?
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/04/2018 8:17 Comments || Top||

#7  No JohnQC, this happened back in late April of 2016. McAuliffe was trying to ensure Virginia went for Hillary. He then was punched in the face by the Virginia Supreme court for trying that with 200,000 people. Then in August, he tried again with a modest pardon of 13,000. Then when the Courts wouldn't hold him in contempt, in November 6(OH MY!), he granted 60,000 convicted felons the right to vote. It's this last one I believe the ruling is about in this article.

I'm curious how many votes then would be invalidated by this ruling.
Posted by: Charles || 06/04/2018 8:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Whenever I see a picture of that bastasd
No. We do not say things here that could be construed as a physical threat to American citizens. Fred puts in long hours to make this site for us, and we do not say things that will make his life more difficult.
Posted by: Uliper Sluper9478 || 06/04/2018 9:14 Comments || Top||

#9  I think it shows how desperate the demoncrats are. They have no message other than we hate trump, wanna take your guns and make you dependent on us and raise your taxes.

Doesn't play well with most voters.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/04/2018 10:05 Comments || Top||

#10  Now he'll have to do it the old fashioned way - send out an army of volunteers to cemeteries to take down names...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/04/2018 10:14 Comments || Top||

#11  #3 #10, they already caught a slimey little weasel from Harrisonburg pulling that most traditional of all Dem stunts in the last election.
Posted by: Cesare || 06/04/2018 10:24 Comments || Top||

#12  And let's not forget McAuliffe is indorsing a self-admitted pedophile running for Congress.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/04/2018 10:27 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Gay wedding cake: "Narrow" Victory for Religious Rights
[CNBC] The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday handed a narrow victory to a Christian baker from Colorado who refused for religious reasons to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

The justices, in a 7-2 decision, faulted the Colorado Civil Rights Commission's handling of the claims brought against Jack Phillips, saying it had showed a hostility to religion.

The commission said Phillips violated the Colorado anti-discrimination law that bars businesses from refusing service based on race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation by rebuffing gay couple David Mullins and Charlie Craig in 2012.
To CNBC a 7 to 2 verdict is "narrow". HAHAHAHAHA!!
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/04/2018 10:29 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Two of the court's four liberals, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan, joined the five conservative justices in the ruling authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Leaving, I guess, Ruth and Sonya with the progressive vote.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/04/2018 10:57 Comments || Top||

#2  It was Ruth and Sonya representing the progressive view.

7-2 is a narrow victory? What's a slam-dunk?
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/04/2018 11:05 Comments || Top||

#3  This is definitely headline of the day material. Bless all those who voted for Donald Trump last November, and all those who could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton despite loathing Mr. Trump. Bless Senator Mitch McConnell for refusing to consider Supreme Court nominations at the end of President Obama’s term, then prioritizing President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, and bless President Trump for putting up the approvable Neil Gorsuch for the job. Finally, bless Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Kennedy, for their votes.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/04/2018 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  If I remember right, they were ruined and ended up having to close their business. Did someone set up a legitimate gofundme page or something? Maybe I'll donate something.

As for private business, AFAIAC, they don't have to cater to anyone they don't want to, and they should pay the price or reap the rewards for whatever their decisions are in that regard. Am I right? Do they have to install handicapped bathrooms even? Some businesses don't even have a public bathroom.
Posted by: gorb || 06/04/2018 11:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Narrow victory my ass. It was a complete invalidation of the leftard attempt to make people bend to their will against their own.

Fuck the fascists.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/04/2018 11:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Religious rights over Liberal Tolerance Boot on the throat. A victory for Americans. I wouldn't have any problem with making the cake, but apparently this guy did and his rights should've been respected as well as theirs. Like there's no other bakers available?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/04/2018 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  7-2 is a narrow victory? What's a slam-dunk?

It depends on the case at issue. If the progressive side wins 5-4 is a slam dunk.
Posted by: AlanC || 06/04/2018 11:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Fuck the fascists.

I hope you don't forget the rubber, Darth
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/04/2018 11:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Sure, there are other bakers who would be willing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. But it was never about the cake. It's about the exercise power, the power to make people do things that violate their religious beliefs, the power to rub their noses in shit, the power to invalidate the First Amendment.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 06/04/2018 12:00 Comments || Top||

#10  To CNBC a 7 to 2 verdict is "narrow". HAHAHAHAHA!!

Hey, when we signed up for Journalism School, they said there'd be no math.

Personally, I'm surprised the SC didn't call the cake a tax or some twisted thing.
Posted by: SteveS || 06/04/2018 12:23 Comments || Top||

#11  'Narrow' refers to the minimal ability to generalize the ruling, not the margin of the ruling.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/04/2018 12:55 Comments || Top||

#12  The Golden State Warriors win Game 2 of the NBA finals in a 'narrow' 122-103 victory over the Cavaliers!
Posted by: Raj || 06/04/2018 13:11 Comments || Top||

#13  Perhaps "narrow" means you only count the opinions of those who you prefer the most.
Posted by: gorb || 06/04/2018 13:27 Comments || Top||

#14  I often wonder what Daniel Patrick Moynihan of "Defining Deviancy Down" fame would say today.

Or would he just start drinking earlier?
Posted by: AlanC || 06/04/2018 13:46 Comments || Top||

#15  The baker actually did offer them a prepared wedding cake. They insisted in demanding submission. It was about one thing - power. Fortunately, unlike other countries, the written First Amendment thingy was and is a thorn in the apparatchiks seeking to drive the population into submission. SCOTUS could read the results of the last election and didn't want anymore of "its" power eroded by going against the text of the Constitution, yet. Now a "Dear John" letter to the Colorado commission about violating the constitutional civil rights of its citizenry and possible prosecutions.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/04/2018 13:57 Comments || Top||

#16  PMSNBC, the narrow news.
Posted by: Woodrow || 06/04/2018 14:11 Comments || Top||

#17  'Narrow' refers to the minimal ability to generalize the ruling, not the margin of the ruling.

Thanks for clarifying that, Glenmore.
Posted by: SteveS || 06/04/2018 14:18 Comments || Top||

#18  It's important to understand that what the rainbow crowd was hoping to win here was for SCOTUS to find a right for minority groups to expect government to enforce validation of their beliefs. It is all and only about favored minority groups being able to use the government as a club.

Now lets have some enterprising attorney go after the left coast administrator apparatchik who shut down a bakery for refusing to bake the rainbow. Sue him and his bosses and take it out of, er, their a$$es...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/04/2018 14:24 Comments || Top||

#19  @ 11 and 17 - you are assuming, of course - that's they way CNBC intended it, and that they understood it.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/04/2018 15:31 Comments || Top||

#20  I find several leftïsts on the Supreme Court aligning with the right very unusual this day and age and possibly the bigger story.

Are they trying to score points with Trump hoping he picks more liberals to the bench instead of nothing but solid hard righters by compromises such as this? In 8 Trump years he could wipe them out.

His pardons are making them realize they have less power after all.
Posted by: Omeger Gray6606 || 06/04/2018 15:54 Comments || Top||

#21  CNBC wrote "narrow victory", not narrow decision.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/04/2018 16:04 Comments || Top||

#22  His pardons are making them realize they have less power after all.

It's all about counting and stacking in this country. They were probably hoping to drive the nail in the coffin of democracy before their time at the wheel would have naturally run out.
Posted by: gorb || 06/04/2018 16:09 Comments || Top||

#23  CNBC wrote "narrow victory", not narrow decision.

Narrow in what way? Seems pretty broad to me, either way. Maybe the author was hoping to minimize the impact?
Posted by: gorb || 06/04/2018 16:10 Comments || Top||

#24  "Some said that my victory was narrow.
Says I, so's the tip of an arrow!"
From over the mantel,
"Hail, king of the ant-hill,"
Discanted the head of his sparrow.
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 06/04/2018 16:40 Comments || Top||

#25  Shows that the writer learned from the communist propaganda school--
"Our victorious forces are retreating with unbroken discipline before an enemy who advancing total disorder!"
Posted by: magpie || 06/04/2018 18:18 Comments || Top||

#26  the decision was based on the fact that the Colorado panel making the decision to penalize the baker was biased

the bias was obvious in the record and not contested

Anton K who wrote the 'gay marriage' decision was the one who wrote this decision and it turned on the need to respect sincere religious convictions

the phrase 'sincere...' was in the gay marriage decision also

the fact that RBG and the wise Latina voted against the baker anyway says a lot
Posted by: lord garth || 06/04/2018 18:26 Comments || Top||

#27  I suspect that a broad, precedent-setting decision would only have been 5-4. To get a narrow, non-precedent setting ruling, the four lib-tards drew straws and two of the losers voted with the majority. Can't have religious freedom setting a precedent, now can we.
Posted by: Chuckles Grimp5700 || 06/04/2018 22:10 Comments || Top||

#28  Has bride ever borne such a heartbreak
As seeks in her his freezer a keepsake,
But after a year
Finds it barren and drear,
Thus to celebrate bleakly with beefcake?
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 06/04/2018 23:12 Comments || Top||

#29  Instapundit had some tweet up that seemed to indicate that this will be retried under slightly different arguments.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/04/2018 23:16 Comments || Top||



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