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Down Under
Whyte Gun Owners Are Racists
[NY Daily News] The report by researchers at Australia’s Monash University and Britain’s Manchester University looked at how racism among whites and gun ownership is linked. The report used data from the American National Election Study and scored people based on their ‘symbolic racism,’ which is used to measure anti-black sentiments. Besides keeping a gun at home, they were also more likely to oppose gun control reforms.
An interesting choice of subject and locale for English and Australian academics. It couldn't be that they had a conclusion looking for evidence, could it?
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/03/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The more people insist that I am racist, the more threatened I will feel, and the more I am going to arm myself to defend against that threat, regardless of whether it emanates from blacks or naive youths or hypocritical manipulators. I don't think I am alone. And unlike my likely opposition, I hit what I aim at. And my wife does better than I.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/03/2013 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2 
Q. Do you believe the statistic that young African-Americans commit 80% of violent crimes in USA?
A. Yes, but I also
Shut up, racist! Racist!!!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 3:59 Comments || Top||

#3  U.S. policymakers may have to consider implementing new policies even if it’s against popular opinion, the study found.

No worries! The current regime has no problem at all with restrictive "new policies".
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 4:59 Comments || Top||

#4  "American Gun Owners Are More Racist"

Of course, because white America is racist to the core. Go ask the families of the 4,000,000 Vietnamese, 1,000,000 Iraqis, 1,000,000 Guatemalans, ?,000,000 Native Americans, ?,000,000 Africans, 1,000,000 Indonesians, 1,000,000 Koreans...the list is endless... that America™ has had a hand in the slaughter of...just to preserve the American hegemony and way of life...so hopefully the acedemics didn't spend a whole lot to come to the obvious conclusion.
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 5:15 Comments || Top||

#5  idiot
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 6:58 Comments || Top||

#6  I blame Jerkfacian logic.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 7:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Aussie and Pommie bastard academics. Time to wage hostilities against these folks in academia. Scare the mud out of them.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 11/03/2013 8:09 Comments || Top||

#8  General Thomas Gage to the courtesy phone.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/03/2013 8:11 Comments || Top||

#9  Come on Jerkface that's just old tired stuff from the 60s, long before your workers paradise collapse. Got to spew all sorts of redirection for the hundred million killed by your fellow running dog socialists in the 20th Century, many of whom never had a chance to defend themselves cause the state took their means of defense from them.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/03/2013 8:16 Comments || Top||

#10  "Come on Jerkface that's just old tired stuff from the 60s"

Well, at least you didn't deny that Americans™ are mass murderers on pare with Mao, Uncle Joe, And Adolf. A pretty exclusive club you belong to. Be proud to be a Yank. Congrats Uncle Sam...
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 9:27 Comments || Top||

#11  I own a gun because I am perfectly willing and actually quite capable of shooting people. Have unfortunately done it and it was completely legal too, and I rolled the body over and took a souvenir to remember him by. They said they were going to give me a Bronze Star but there was a technicality and the Captain said I would just have to forget about it. We got a Carbine off one of them, I think it was the young one's father. The kid had a carbine too, old things from back in the 50's, not well maintained either. We used it on night watch to throw down on anybody we shot in the dark overlooking the company dump. People crawled in there at night to get old batteries and stuff from the garbage. Couldn't have that.
Posted by: Spereting Tingle4064 || 11/03/2013 9:29 Comments || Top||

#12  uh huh. Is that you, Jahn Karry?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 9:32 Comments || Top||

#13  Of course, because white America is racist to the core. Go ask the families of the 4,000,000 Vietnamese, 1,000,000 Iraqis, 1,000,000 Guatemalans, ?,000,000 Native Americans, ?,000,000 Africans, 1,000,000 Indonesians, 1,000,000 Koreans...the list is endless... that America™ has had a hand in the slaughter of...just to preserve the American hegemony and way of life...so hopefully the acedemics didn't spend a whole lot to come to the obvious conclusion.

You didn't ask all 7+ million non white families worldwide. Where did you get your figures?
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 9:32 Comments || Top||

#14  Congrats Spereting Tingle4064...way to be proud of your killin' and war crime...I'm sure you're a perfect representation of America™, though the obvious question would be did you get an erection while doing it? I'm sure Satan has a special spot reserved for you in Hades..
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 9:35 Comments || Top||

#15  1,000,000 Koreans...

That's your example of horrible American racism? The fact that we stopped the southern half of the country from being part of a nationwide work-to-death camp?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/03/2013 9:39 Comments || Top||

#16  Thing From Snowy Mountain - Listen up cowboy

Just imagine if 1,000,000 Americans where slaughtered....America™ loses 3,000 innocents in 9/11 yet has no problem killing millions upon millions of civilians in revenge.
That's right. We learned that lesson when General Washington crossed the Delaware on Christmas Eve to kill Hessians in their sleep. You'd think, 240 years later, the world would have figured that one out, but no.
And you wonder why people hate you….
We're well aware that progressives, commies, fascists, imperialists, thugs and hard boyz around the world dislike us. We can live with it.
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 9:45 Comments || Top||

#17  I do not wonder why people hate America. I wonder why people do not appreciate America; including our current president.
Posted by: Airandee || 11/03/2013 9:48 Comments || Top||

#18  Jerkface - you might want to lookup the term 'redirection' in the dictionary.
It's a common leftist tactic:

1) accuse your opponent of doing what you, yourself, are doing. No evidence needed or credible witness or even logic needed.

2) when you eventually get caught actually doing it (with actual evidence - see Killing Fields, etc...) - claim that your opponent 'started it' or 'is doing it too'.

But of course Jerkface screws even that up by applying 1) after 2). Doesn't quite work the same.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/03/2013 9:49 Comments || Top||

#19  "I do not wonder why people hate America. I wonder why people do not appreciate America"

Appreciate you for what exactly?? Keeping the world 'safe' for dictatorships?
We also manage to keep Canada safe. You may thank us now.
Maybe you should ask South Americans how much they 'appreciate' the USofA..I suggest you run after you ask...In fact people 'appreciate' America™ so much that American tourists have this propensity to say they are Canadian when asked where they're from…
Because they know Americans have money...
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 9:55 Comments || Top||

#20  And you know about the Millions on Millions the Americans killed because the people who turned North Korea (for example) into a country-wide work camp told you this, and their word is good, and ours is bad, because of course we killed millions of Koreans...

You think you're a proud defier-of-the-Man, scoring points because you're making the Americans angry, and (I do not know where this comes from) Angry People Are Wrong,

But why shouldn't we be angry?

You're basically a Holocaust Denier for the Holocausts that killed Asians instead of Jews.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/03/2013 9:58 Comments || Top||

#21  Just imagine if 1,000,000 Americans where slaughtered....America™ loses 3,000 innocents in 9/11 yet has no problem killing millions upon millions of civilians in revenge. And you wonder why people hate you....

Again, you have nothing to back up your claims. Millions upon millions following 911? Even Code Pink would say, "Dude, you're f*cking wrong!"
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 10:06 Comments || Top||

#22  Well, at least you didn't deny that Americans™ are mass murderers on pare with Mao, Uncle Joe, And Adolf. A pretty exclusive club you belong to. Be proud to be a Yank. Congrats Uncle Sam...

Why shouldn't I? That's how I got to the top of the heap, looking down at you, farting in your general direction.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 11/03/2013 10:50 Comments || Top||

#23  Jerkface Killa, It's easy to prove you wrong, You're at home and the door opens, did you do it, NO, so what do you do, Run, you can't.

Die yup. Get robbed, maybe, if the crook has no fear of you, you might live, BUT you're a witness and your odds are bad.

So would you rather be armed? Or dead, your choice.(You don't HAVE to shoot, You're in a good position, so decide)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/03/2013 10:52 Comments || Top||

#24  I forgot! DON"T FEED THE TROLLS is in effect. My bad!
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 11/03/2013 10:52 Comments || Top||

#25  In fact people 'appreciate' America™ so much that American tourists have this propensity to say they are Canadian when asked where they're from..

They don't say they're American coz they don't wanna be robbed
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 10:57 Comments || Top||

#26  If America is so bad, why is it that millions of people worldwide will do almost anything to come here and live?
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/03/2013 11:20 Comments || Top||

#27  Redneck Jim - I put your post through Google Translate and it/I still can't figure out what language you werr scribbling...unfortunately they don't have 'hillbilly' as a choice so I guess we'll never know what words of...eh-hem...'wisdom' you were sputtering out...
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 11:25 Comments || Top||

#28  "If America is so bad, why is it that millions of people worldwide will do almost anything to come here and live?"

Well, after you've went in and raped their countries of everything that wasn't nailed down, they figured that they would return the favour. BTW I have two US families living on my street...seems there are lots of ex-Yanks who wanted nothing to do with the 'Promised Land'™.
Let's take a look at your hero, Karl Marx, and his body count shall we?

China -- 65 million including Great Leap Forward
USSR -- 20 million including Ukraine Genocide
Cuba -- 1/2 million
East Europe -- 1/2 million
African 'Liberation' Wars -- 1 to 3 million easy
North Korea -- 2 million easy

And you're complaining about US?
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 11:30 Comments || Top||

#29  I blame the TEA Party.
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 11:44 Comments || Top||

#30  BTW I have two US families living on my street...
Really?
What street is that exactly JK?
Posted by: Betty Whomomble3966 || 11/03/2013 12:18 Comments || Top||

#31  ...absolutely! Don't you racists understand that "self preservation/defense" is now the gummints job..?

Here's something for Jerkface to have someone read to him: 7 Racist Liberal Hypocrites Who Call For Gun Control While Being Protected By Guns

When seconds matter, the police are only minutes away...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 12:32 Comments || Top||

#32  Oh, America's killed lots of people? Good. I live for the day when America has subjugated the rest of the world to our will, forced you to become states and removed from the Universe any doubt over who is on top.

You're vermin Jerkface, I'm HAPPY to step on you. I REVEL in your destruction because at the end of the day, it'll be us standing on the bloody remains of the rest of the world.

Now don't you feel special? We've given you a purpose in life, to be crushed under the treads of our tanks. After all, the guts to grease our tank treads needs to come from somewhere.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/03/2013 13:12 Comments || Top||

#33  Not supporting the Jerkface rant, but with every untruth there must be also be a grain or two of truth.

For wat it's worth, one man's opinion.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 14:16 Comments || Top||

#34  By the way, jerkface killa = JFK?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 14:21 Comments || Top||

#35  Need help - comment #4 doesn't show on my computer, something about not supporting office98?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/03/2013 14:42 Comments || Top||

#36  I forgot! DON"T FEED THE TROLLS is in effect. My bad!
It's ok, AlmostAnonymous5839. The poor dear volunteered to be a chew toy.

Congrats Spereting Tingle4064

He's well known here for being a fabulist, Mr. Killa. That's a fancy English major word that means liar. But you go ahead and get excited because he sounds like all those anti-war movies you so dearly love... Oh, and by the way, Redneck Jim's post contained exactly one word of North American dialect, which happens to be in common usage on your side of the border as well. All the rest were standard North American English, used in the standard North American way, with only five words of two syllables and one word containing three. Did you perhaps have to redo first grade three or four times before you were allowed to progress?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2013 14:52 Comments || Top||

#37  Yee-ouch, tw!

That's gonna leave a mark - as soon as Jerk gets Mommy Jerk to read it to him.
Posted by: Barbara || 11/03/2013 15:02 Comments || Top||

#38  Jerkface Killa, sorry, I didn't know you were Illiterate, Odd that you can type, or are you letting your momma type here.

That's OK, I'll type slower.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/03/2013 15:13 Comments || Top||

#39  Why are you feeding the troll?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 15:26 Comments || Top||

#40  Think feeding plots g(r)om, feeding plots. A place where they can congregate to permit more efficient culling.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 15:30 Comments || Top||

#41  # 36 But you go ahead and get excited because he sounds like all those anti-war movies you so dearly love

A maroon. A platoonic maroon. All I got.

#39 Why are you feeding the troll?

Chomsky's kids gotta eat somewhere.
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 11/03/2013 15:48 Comments || Top||

#42  Chomsky's kids gotta eat somewhere.

They can eat each other.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 15:49 Comments || Top||

#43  rantburg.com is worth $ 1,680.00

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Posted by: WeRNotNKansas ToTo || 11/03/2013 15:54 Comments || Top||

#44  Not a rumor: War on White Man.

US Gov't doc obtained states, "heterosexual, Christian male receives many unearned advantages of social privilege"

Title: The Equal Opportunity Advisor Student Guide

The subject of white privilege emerged in a 20-page section titled, “Power and Privilege.”

“Whites are the empowered group,” the manual declares. “White males represent the haves as compared to the have-nots.”

The military document advises personnel to “assume racism is everywhere, every day” and “notice code words for race.” They are also instructed to “understand and learn from the history of whiteness and racism.”

“Assume racism is everywhere, everyday,” read a statement in a section titled, ‘How to be a strong 'white ally.'"

“One of the privileges of being white is not having to see or deal with racism all the time,” the manual states. “We have to learn to see the effect that racism has.”
Posted by: mossomo || 11/03/2013 16:07 Comments || Top||

#45 

Whites Down To 10% Of World Population By 2060— Does It Matter?

By Patrick J. Buchanan on May 1, 2008 at 12:00am

"This is the way the world ends/Not with a bang but a whimper," wrote T.S. Eliot in the closing couplet of "The Hollow Men."

Eliot's poem was written after the Great War of 1914-1918 had carried off 9 million soldiers, wounded twice as many more, brought down the Romanov, Hohenzollern and Habsburg empires, and ushered onto the world stage Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini and, soon, Adolf Hitler.

Readers have ascribed various meanings to Eliot's words. One college professor of English suggested Eliot was looking back to the "whimper" in the cradle in Bethlehem that signaled the end of the old world, the Pax Romana, and the coming of the new Christian age.

Some saw it as the whimper of a man facing the executioner's axe. Others say Eliot was referring to the middle-aged protagonist of The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, who had "measured out my life with coffee spoons" and soon would "wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled."

Recent reports suggest God has another end in store for us.

An Augusta, Ga., group, The National Policy Institute, has meshed the figures on fertility rates with the continents and races on Planet Earth—to visualize what the world will look like in 2060. [Global White Population To Plummet, download it here.]

In 1950, whites were 28 percent of world population and Africans 9 percent, a ratio of three-to-one. In 2060, the ratio will remain the same. But the colors will be reversed. People of African ancestry will be 25 percent of the world's population. People of European descent will have fallen to 9.8 percent.

More arresting is that the white population is shrinking not only in relative but in absolute terms. Two hundred million white people, one in every six on earth—a number equal to the entire population of France, Britain, Holland and Germany—will vanish by 2060.

The Caucasian race is going the way of the Mohicans.
Posted by: WeRNotNKansas ToTo || 11/03/2013 16:19 Comments || Top||

#46  "More arresting is that the white population is shrinking not only in relative but in absolute terms."

I guess whitey just can't get it up anymore. The day I trust anything that racist Pat Buchanan writes or says, please give me the needle cuz I must have caught Alzheimer's.
Posted by: Jerkface Killa || 11/03/2013 17:19 Comments || Top||

#47  you can have the needle. One less mouth-breathing idiot parasite to feed and care for
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 17:26 Comments || Top||

#48  JK: This is your only warning. We have been subjected to your abuse since you logged on here by making statements you can't prove and then refusing to provide information that backs your outrageous claims.

One more false attack, or one more ad hominem attack, one more attempt to make charges against Americans here without providing documentary evidence. and you will be banned from commenting. Anything you do from this point to protest this warning and you will be banned from ever even reading Rantburg.com

El Malo
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 17:37 Comments || Top||

#49  I wonder how many of the brand-new nyms are the same troll posting shit to argue with so he can pretend he's accomplishing something with his strawmen.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/03/2013 17:37 Comments || Top||

#50  Ref #45:

An Augusta, Ga., group, The National Policy Institute, has meshed the figures on fertility rates with the continents and races on Planet Earth—to visualize what the world will look like in 2060. [Global White Population To Plummet, download it here.]

Few surprises here. We have birth control in all it's various and sometimes sinister forms to thank for at least a portion of this.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 17:51 Comments || Top||

#51  Dumbass
Posted by: Jerkface || 11/03/2013 18:55 Comments || Top||

#52  It has never been the "Teapot Party" you stupid fuck. If you're banned, it should be because you heard your talking points, but were too fucking stupid to even get them right. Idiot. We can forgive trolling - to a point. Incompetent trolling? NEVER!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 19:10 Comments || Top||

#53  JFK, you didn't exactly endear yourself when you first showed up.

It's not that the "correct" view is the only one allowed, it's that unintelligent, rote-argumented opposition tends not to be welcomed with open arms. Especially when the commentary is intended to be nothing but inflammatory; emotional m**sturbation at having "stirring up the rubes", as it were.

Aside from the argument about Russia in WWII, you've offered nothing of substance.

"Tea Party"? How... trite.

It's akin to walking into a foreign city and acting as if you're back where your behavior is acceptable. Might not fly. In this case, you've walked onto private property. A site privately owned and maintained and funded by donations.

And that you've received a warning is unique among blogs- many other sites aligning with your political persuasion, and even not of it, ban commenters by rote.

Invoking Godwin's Law? Not a wise decision:

Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, sometimes also known as Godwin's Law, is a theory put forward by Mike Godwin in 1990. Godwin noticed that long-threaded discussions on the Internet tended to turn into mud slinging competitions by the end. The longer a thread got, the more likely it was that a Nazi comparison would be dragged into the discussion. Godwin's Rule states that: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

Comparing someone, or an action, with the Nazis is a serious charge. Throughout most of the world, Hitler and the Nazis are equated with ultimate evil, due to their actions in the Second World War, which included the roundup of millions of Jewish people, homosexuals, gypsies, and other “undesirables” in the name of ethnic purity. The Nazis are associated with dictatorship, totalitarianism, and rigid order.

There are situations in which bringing up the Nazi party or Hitler is entirely legitimate. Any discussion of modern German history, for example, should include a discussion of the Nazis. However, when Nazis are brought up because a conversation is not going well, it suggests that the other side may have won the argument. Furthermore, it weakens valid comparisons.

Often, an example of Godwin's Rule accompanies hyperbole. The idea is to invalidate the opposition by comparing it to the Nazi Party. However, this can backfire, and usually does. Unless the comparison is valid, the person who brought up Nazis or Hitler is considered to be the loser. In a rational discussion or debate on or off the Internet, resorting to a Nazi comparison is generally a strong indicator that you have run out of material to discuss or support your claims.

Many Internet communities have taken Godwin's Rule to mean that when Nazis enter a conversation, the discussion is over.


Bye.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/03/2013 19:17 Comments || Top||

#54  Seeing how the owners of this joint have made their decision, I have a parting gift for you. Play it. Play it to remember. You may even be able to read my response before it ends.



Classic response. The people who run this joint politely suggest you use the restroom and you shit in your chair. Had I been here I would have won $5. Seeing how English is likely a second language I'll keep it simple. In a way I should thank people like you who turned me off from the unithink paradise where I grew up - liberals, progressives, and even some legit democrats. Educated, or at least think they are, some even successful. I've seen how your caste is involved as their barnacle of state, or if not into that sort of thing the corn in the crap. First noticed, often talked about, but really not part of the body politic. Good for buying the coffee and giving rides. You try to get in by banging on the cages of dissenters to your colonialist ideals to laugh at the monkeys as you would say, show off to your little boyfriends. You lack pizazz, you lack the it factor. In the essence of pruning your vines down so you can see the walls, you have a number of tells, one of which I have explained and here are two of more obvious ones:

Wanna-be. You are not using that right. Obviously you have distain for a separate culture and think bashing egos with your superior culture, which earns you a colonialist badge, is the thing to do. By turning people off it makes them consider being bes. It has with me at least. You are an ineffective progressive.

Second, your sexual deviancy solidifies you in the progressive rather than liberal or democrat category.

As said, your flash cards are out of date. And if our regulars saw the thread the other day which stated roughly, "So your answer to ending gun violence is with more guns" is classic. No the answer to violence is not guns - good guys with guns mostly deter or defend against violence. The answer to reducing violence is culturally and spiritual. People who get free shit and don't have to work get idle hands and fall into mischief. People who have no real working worries always find something to do. And if you think I'm talking about blacks you need to consider your racists tendencies because it is anybody; humans are programmed like that. Even the plague of Kardashians have to find something to do.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/03/2013 20:59 Comments || Top||

#55  Mortal Sin #1 - impersonating others
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 21:17 Comments || Top||

#56  swksvolFF has a mean streak. I like it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 22:05 Comments || Top||

#57  * Loads. *
Posted by: badanov || 11/03/2013 23:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Our National Debate: What's Truly Important
...more a reminder than Pulitzer...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Vertical mobility.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 4:00 Comments || Top||

#2  A clean portaloo ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 4:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Get the size of the public sector work force down to about 2/3 of what it is now (including a similar sized reduction in grants and subsidies and regulations that channel money into rent-seeking "private" business) and most of our problems would evaporate.

Any society where the "good" jobs are public sector jobs is an autocracy.
Posted by: no mo uro || 11/03/2013 6:04 Comments || Top||

#4  No, get the Government payroll down to 1/10 what it is now, and we'll all be happy.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/03/2013 15:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Size of gov't has doubled since 2000.
Posted by: mossomo || 11/03/2013 16:09 Comments || Top||

#6  *ahem*
I have 3 bridges under construction, and a joint venture with Caltrans (DOT) retrofitting a historic 100 yr old bridge to which I assigned one of my assistant engineers, and we are also covering a soil-nail slope repair emergency project. All this with myself and 3 others. I can attest that my section of local gubbamint is NOT overstaffed
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2013 16:53 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Afghanistan Already Here
[Ynet] Analysis: Global jihad spreading like cancer throughout Middle East; Israel preparing for the worst

More than 30,000 global jihadists have settled in and are fighting in countries that border with Israel. They belong to various groups, but they all have one dream: To liberate the Arab world from heretic regimes, with the climax being the liberation of Jerusalem. Afghanistan is already here; on our border.

Global jihad is the main concrete threat the army will be preparing for in 2014, and it is the focus of discussions the defense minister is holding with the General Staff ahead of the next working year. While not all of the IDF's top officers accept the term "Afghanistan is already here," there is broad agreement regarding the scope of the threat this development poses to Israel.

The argument is about the timetable: Is global jihad approaching the time when it will turn its attention to "take care" of the State of Israel, or does it need more time to establish itself on the ground and complete the mission of "taking care" of the heretic regimes of Assad, King Abdullah, General al-Sisi and others? IDF operational officers identify the jihadi threat as immediate. Army officials specializing in assessment are more cautious.

All the incidents that occurred along the borders between Israel and its neighbors since August 2011 involved global jihadists. The expected threat consists not only of the firing of rockets and missiles. Global jihad will try to breach the border and paint in the heart of Israel a picture of terror attacks similar to the one that is seen in Iraq and Afghanistan on a daily basis.

Never better?
The global jihad threat is a direct result of the Arab Spring. Just as the turmoil the region experienced between 1979 and 1982 (from Khomeini's rise to power to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and the first Leb war) led to the rise of Death Eater forces such as al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, and the Taliban, global jihad was drawn into the vacuum left by the collapsing regimes around us.

The army is also discussing the supposed discrepancy between the sense that the Middle East has shifted from a reality of crises to a reality of agreements and the intelligence assessments indicating that the potential for an kaboom remains high. There are talks with Iran, dialogue with Syria and negotiations between Israel and the Paleostinians. The security establishment sees another positive development in the dramatic weakening of the Moslem Brüderbund in Egypt. Seemingly, our situation has never been better.

But all of these processes are expected to exhaust themselves towards May-June. The Iranians are talking about a solution within six months; the Syrians are supposed to get rid of their chemical weapons and head for elections in the summer of 2014; and Israel and the Paleostinians need to reach an agreement by April. What if these processes fail to yield results? Where will that put the State of Israel?

The only element in the Middle East that these processes have no effect on is global jihad. The dismantling of Syria's chemical weapons and the plan to reach a political agreement with the opposition in Syria does not interest global jihad. Lately there have been more and more festivities not only between global jihad and the Syrian army, but also between jihadists and moderate rebels. Global jihad settles in every area that is vacated in Syria, including the Deraa region, which is not far from the Israeli-Syrian-Jordanian border triangle. If they get a foothold in the Golan Heights, Israel will not be able to remain indifferent.

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this cancer is spreading, and no one can stop it. Who'll be able to expel from Syria those tens of thousands of global jihadists? The Egyptians estimate there are some 3,000 jihadists in Sinai. Some of them are connected to the Syrian Jabhat al-Nusra group, while others are affiliated with al-Qaeda's branch in Yemen. In Leb several hundred Sunni-Lebanese are operating under the auspices of Syrian global jihad groups. Hezbollah is having a hard time dealing with groups such as the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, which launched rockets at Israel and detonated boom-mobiles in Beirut's Dahiyeh district. In Gazoo there are also a few hundred global jihadists, who pose a threat to the Hamas regime.

Has the Middle East missed the train?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2013 01:42 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  Who'll be able to expel from Syria those tens of thousands of global jihadists?

Israelis will have to decide what they consider the lesser of two evils - Assad or the jihadists trying to topple him. Based on their attacks on Assad, it appears that they prefer the jihadists. We'll see if that pans out as well for them as it did for us, when we sponsored anti-Soviet Afghan rebels via Zia ul-Haq. We did it for a sound reason, namely that determining the lesser of two evils - the Afghan rebels vs the Soviets, who had 20K nukes in their armory - took all of a few seconds. The blowback from the Afghan adventure was bad, but the Afghans helped accelerate the fall of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union, and that was worth something. Not sure what the Israelis are getting out of a jihadist victory in Syria.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/03/2013 8:25 Comments || Top||

#2  It appears right now they're getting a lot of chemical weapons depleted through use or destruction.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/03/2013 8:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Are the Israelis just trying to keep the conflict alive in a plague on both your houses strategy?

Seems I've heard similar thoughts in the 'burg, no? ;^)
Posted by: AlanC || 11/03/2013 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Who is funding the global jihadist?

These people need targeting.Is it state policy within the Gulf or do they still use the same excuse thats it private businessmen from Kuwait,UAE,Saudi and Qatar.

I would say the religious authority in Saudi/gulf are pulling the strings.
Posted by: Ulusoth Shereter7931 || 11/03/2013 9:06 Comments || Top||

#5  do they still use the same excuse thats it private businessmen from Kuwait,UAE,Saudi and Qatar.

I don't think it's an excuse. And it's not just wealthy businessmen. Islamist fervor for jihads pervades their societies, partly because oil wealth has given them the means to contribute without making a dent in their wallets. The hoi polloi hate our guts, probably more intensely than ordinary Iranians hated our guts in the run-up to the Iranian revolution. The royals are wise to make anti-American noises every so often - it helps defuse the anger of ordinary folk who view them as puppets of the West.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/03/2013 12:59 Comments || Top||

#6  What they preach in the gulf states explains why they hate every eligion bar wahabbi sunni Islam.

The Govts of the Gulf have influence over this surely?

Why do they not teach feedom of religion?

I spent a week in Dubai and local arabs in full arabic dress code were drinking alcohol in western Hotels.

Fucking hypocrites!
Posted by: Ulusoth Shereter7931 || 11/03/2013 20:24 Comments || Top||

#7  What they preach in the gulf states explains why they hate every eligion bar wahabbi sunni Islam.

The Govts of the Gulf have influence over this surely?

Why do they not teach feedom of religion?

I spent a week in Dubai and local arabs in full arabic dress code were drinking alcohol in western Hotels.

Fucking hypocrites!


This stuff is transmitted from father to son, from some hereditary local imam to his flock. Anyone who gets in the way of these traditions risks deposition or assassination. The Shah and Anwar Sadat are prime examples of what happens to Arab leaders who buck the opinion of the Arab man on the street. Unlike in the West, ordinary Muslims take their religion seriously, and will not be dictated to by liberalizing elites, who drove much of the change in the West. Ironically, we owe our relative internal peace to the fact that Western man is a slave to material comforts, and as long as this is not disturbed, we will put up with the most outrageous slights to traditional values. The Muslim man will kill, often in gruesome ways, members of the literati or leadership who dissent from the orthodoxy. In Afghanistan, Najibullah and his brother were tortured to death, mutilated and hanged by the Taliban not because they were cruel - they were exceeded in cruelty by the Taliban. They were singled out for special treatment because they were apostates, as all Communists are.

Ultimately, Muslims in majority Muslim countries are not blank slates waiting for either the West or their leaders to write on. They have historical and cultural traditions that predate the leader of the moment by 1300 years and will literally defend those traditions to the death, not in open battle, but via subterfuge, assassination and coup. And these traditions are what drive Pakistani leaders to pretend to criticize the use of American drones to kill the Taliban over Pakistani airspace even though any gun-armed 50's era jet aircraft could shoot them down with impunity *and* they are actually personally happy that Uncle Sam is helping them with pest control. The Pakistani man on the street hates the US, and any leader who appears to be openly aligned with the US is obviously tired of public life (and perhaps of life altogether).
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/03/2013 22:58 Comments || Top||

#8  The one thing the US did that collapsed Egyptian popular support for the Muslim Brotherhood was to back it.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/03/2013 23:59 Comments || Top||


EMP: Can Israel Catapult Iran Back to the Stone Age?
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Back to? They aren't there already? (Except for Tehran and the nukes.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/03/2013 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Wikipedia article

An ex-atmosphere blast would have too large a footprint. Which means an atmospheric blast.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/03/2013 1:28 Comments || Top||

#3  What's wrong with bronze age?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 3:49 Comments || Top||

#4  ...There's a couple things out of whack with this article, but for the most part he's on point. Keep in mind a couple things:

*As Phil B pointed out, this will have to be an atmospheric shot. Exoatmospheric means you'll hurt people you don't want to hurt, though in that part of the world it's hard for the Israelis to tell the difference.

*A high atmospheric shot over Tehran (and/or Qom) will do more than send the Iranians back into the 1800s - it will effectively remove any semblance of control the mullahs have over that beknighted land. And you would be surprised, I think, at just how many people in how many places over the Iranian map would suddenly decide that they were the best successors.

And how many people in other countries (ah-ah-AH-CHOOCommunist China) felt they were best qualified to go in and 'help' the poor Iranians.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/03/2013 10:18 Comments || Top||

#5  One should also consider the international response to an Israeli-fired EMP over Tehran. It very likely would bring near-unanimous condemnation; Champ would certainly lead the U.S. into breaking relations (or at the very least stopping all aid). The Euros would follow. Putin and Russia might well be even more direct.

Israel's neighbors (the ones not whacked with the EMP) could be goaded into responding: Egypt has a semi-decent military that wouldn't mind fighting someone besides their own citizens. That they would very likely lose big-time wouldn't stop them from trying.

My calculation is that Israel would do a Tehran-EMP only if it believes itself to be completely, truly cornered. Stakes are too high for it be otherwise.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/03/2013 10:30 Comments || Top||

#6  My calculation is that Israel would do a Tehran-EMP only if it believes itself to be completely, truly cornered. Stakes are too high for it be otherwise. Posted by Steve White

I concur Dr. Steve. Being "cornered" or pulling your opponent into the corner is also a good strategy. The enemy can only approach from one angle, and the response can indeed be characterized as cold, ruthless survival, culminating with a speedy and in this case, potentially horrific culmination.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 15:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Agreed, Steve White. An EMP attack on Teheran or larger area in Iran is Sampson Option Lite, so to speak.....
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/03/2013 15:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Perhaps the juices have a non-nuclear EMP option.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2013 15:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Personally, I fancy a plague of 8 inch golems.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 15:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Shipman I would be seriously surprised if they did not...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 16:09 Comments || Top||

#11  #9 Personally, I fancy a plague of 8 inch golems.

So 20th Century. How about a Shiite miniaturisation ray?
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 11/03/2013 16:17 Comments || Top||

#12  So 20th Century

I said golems, not gremlins.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/03/2013 16:29 Comments || Top||

#13  I've got a better idea. We can make a computer virus that'll screw up all of their electronics so that they can't launch any programs. I hear the NSA already has a prototype in testing, called "Windows 8."
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/03/2013 16:57 Comments || Top||

#14  Golem - Left Astronaut - Right
Posted by: WeRNotNKansas ToTo || 11/03/2013 16:59 Comments || Top||

#15  EMP is almost useless against such a broken down country. Once you decide to nuke something, then just go all old testament on it.
Posted by: rammer || 11/03/2013 17:39 Comments || Top||

#16  Mined an email to family Sept 2012.

It's been a month of leaks, a battle on both sides of the Atlantic between the hawks and doves crescendoing with Netanyahu cancelling his second day of meetings and demanding Mossad polygraph his entire security cabinet. I'll leave out the dramas. But two noteworthy leaks from all this: a battle plan and a hint to having a secret weapon.

At first I thought the battle plan leaked what the secret weapon is. The leaked plan details Israeli aircraft AND MISSLES being coated with a cheap but effective nano particle paint that eats radar and makes planes nearly stealth/invisible. But this I found was open sourced and has been out there for a few years: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3919257,00.html.

But. I think I know what's up their sleeve. There was an Israeli op-ed about sending Iran back to the stone age with an Electromagnetic Pulse Weapon (EMP). But the author was talking nuclear, and that's a no-go.

However I think I'm nailing it here - non nuclear electronic pulse weapon. Soviets and US built them in the 1960s. I have a little traction here. A prominent Israeli counter-terrorism expert Yael Shahar (Director of the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism) has whole lectures on how easy it would to build one. Her lectures are mostly defensive in ways to harden infrastructure and airlines.

But! She's often quoted, "the really alarming thing is that non nuclear EMP weapons are 'not technically challenging to build'.”

The alleged war plan said the Israeli strike would begin with an unprecedented cyberattack designed to paralyze the Iranian regime and blind it to what was happening on its territory. The Internet, telephones, radio and television transmissions, the electrical grid would all be taken out.

The trial run for the initial strike was Syria. Israelis hacked their air defenses and turned them off. Got into the electric grid and turned off the power. Hacked the cell towers, sent texts mssgs to everyone in the vicinity to flee or get bombed, then they turned the towers off. They were in and out before Syria knew what hit em.

Next phase is missle and cruise missle (land and sea based) strikes on command and control, research and development, and high value personnel and govt figures. Remember that "invisible" paint, even if they get some of their systems back up, the paint will make the missiles invisible. No warnings.

This is the phase the non nuclear ectronic pulse missles are used. Totally crippling Iranian infrastructure.

Then the IAF goes in and mops up.

Israelis are domestically producing bunkbusters, little 500 pounders. Also in their arsenal are 100s of US made 1000 and 5000 pounders.

Another trending headlines this year, the electronic warfare unit of the IAF have been bragging about capabilities.

Janes says the Israelis don't have enough air tankers to successfully carry the strike out. But a German Cold War relic Hans Rühle another security expert takes the opposite side.
Posted by: mossomo || 11/03/2013 17:40 Comments || Top||

#17  But. I think I know what's up their sleeve. There was an Israeli op-ed about sending Iran back to the stone age with an Electromagnetic Pulse Weapon (EMP). But the author was talking nuclear, and that's a no-go

Don't believe I'd go quite that far.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 17:56 Comments || Top||

#18  Israel would have to have its back to the Wailing Wall before they used an NEMP. That said, they did take out Iraq's and Syria's nuclear capability. The world made outraged noises but it didn't go very far at the time.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/03/2013 18:22 Comments || Top||

#19  Non-nuclear EMP weapons would be small footprint, a single building at most.

What occurred to me is a directed EMP weapon in a satellite. You could progressively take out key buildings, if the recharge time was a few minutes.

Could have deployed one already. Easy to test and I would think undetectable.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/03/2013 18:54 Comments || Top||


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Reporter Jim Angle Calls Obamacare Phone Center From Unlisted Number: Told They Knew Who He Was
...ObamaCare...now with extra creepy..!
Uncle Phester, please highlight your comments, instead of leaving it for us to do.

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trailing wife
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Voice recognition software, an essential and very pricey engineering change request (ECR) to the ACA contract award ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/03/2013 5:07 Comments || Top||

#2  No wonder all the paying young folks can't get registered - the media is clogging the I/O!
Posted by: Bobby || 11/03/2013 10:06 Comments || Top||

#3  ...TW - sorry - had the "oh crap" moment 1-millisecond after pressing "submit" (not kidding)...I'll ask IT if they can layer my node to include a pre-submit "hey dummy - did you highlight you comment?" step...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 10:09 Comments || Top||

#4  So he gave them his name and address, and they found him on The List. Technically simple, the interesting bit is the admin bothered to do it - the digital version of the ol' Chicago "Who sent you?".

So who else is on The List? Pity Snowden didn't leak that.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/03/2013 13:16 Comments || Top||

#5  NSIOA - No Secrets In Obama's America
Posted by: Kojo Sluling1823 || 11/03/2013 13:28 Comments || Top||

#6  "Obamacare Losers" is a new political group comprised of millions of Americans who have had their existing health coverage cancelled thanks to the Obamacare rollout.

Posted by: Flusoth Shosh2069 || 11/03/2013 14:33 Comments || Top||

#7  More on Obamacare Loosers

Obamacare losers could pack political punch

Obamacare’s Unintended Losers

Posted by: Flusoth Shosh2069 || 11/03/2013 15:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Picture Of The Day: You Can Keep Your Plan!
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/03/2013 15:25 Comments || Top||

#9  "Voice recognition" required training for FBI recruits.
Posted by: Dale || 11/03/2013 16:55 Comments || Top||

#10  The good thing about this extra added creepiness is that system is down most of the time. Once again, the politics and party are the watchwords--not the American citizen.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/03/2013 18:06 Comments || Top||



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