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Visitors from Trollburg...
Recently we've had a couple visits from Trollburg in the comments, and I'd like to welcome the new commuters. Generally I don't delete reader comments except for the occasional duplicate, and I haven't deleted those. I will request, though, that a certain amount of civility be maintained when visiting. That's good manners.
anyone with half a brain knows that Saddam Hussein hates wahhabis and people like bin laden. you crooked attempts to produce a link between the two will be exposed sooner rather than later!
Posted by: you people are morans! 8/21/2002 2:18:53 PM
Now, y'see the problem with this post is that the person making the comment used creative non-standard spelling when he signed it, and he made an assumption that might not be factual. For "Moran" does he mean he thinks we're "Mormons"? I don't know about most of my readers, but I'm not; I can only afford one wife, and her not very well. Couldn't even bring myself to watch more than one episode of Donny and Marie, in fact.

Or does he actually think we're "morays"? That's obviously not the case. There's no water in my basement, so where would I swim?

I suppose the word could be "morons," but I have a hard time understanding how the writer could come to that conclusion. I usually have no trouble tying my shoes or waving bye-bye. I don't happen to agree with the statement that "Saddam Hussein hates wahhabis and people like bin laden." Even though I have at least half a brain, I know nothing of the sort. I've actually been under the impression that Saddam Hussein would use whatever tools were available as long as they helped preserve his personal power, whether he liked them or not. That's my opinion, based on what I consider empirical evidence. No doubt my attempts will be exposed sooner or later, but my opinion remains.

On the other hand...
You're a idiot really arent you?...

The diet of CNN news (if you wanna call it that) has totally brainwashed you, hasnt it?

Wake up you Idiot, can't you smell the shit???

I suggest you read other newspapers from around the world, and not just your 95% Zionist controlled media American media, where it is difficult to find any level of truth... the rest of the world is laughing at you Americans, you're hated all across Europe, abhorred in the Middle East and vilified in Asia.
Posted by: Anonymous 8/24/2002 3:12:19 AM
Now that's just plain rude and uninformed. Here's a fellow who apparently just popped in for the first time, and he accuses me of idiocy. Since I can tie my shoes, wave bye-bye, and usually find my way home, that's not the case. Nor am I epileptic — the other, less used, definition of idiot.

My steady diet of CNN hasn't really left me "brainwashed." I could use a good scrubbing now and then — I do have an occasionally dirty mind — but that hasn't happened recently. Next time I use them as a source, though, I'll keep an eye out for the scrubbers. Those who follow my links (they're in the article titles) know that when they get to the original source for one of these rants they're as likely to end up at Jihad Unspun or Balochistan Post or Laksamana as at CNN, Fox, or Nando Times. The article this comment was attached to was from the Philippines Business World. So maybe my sources are only 50% controlled by an international Zionist conspiracy. Maybe that's why I can't smell the droppings.

I think what bothered me about these two was their juvenility and the fact that both by coincidence (I guess, unless they were the same person) indulged in name-calling and "badd spellig". Now, I'm not above a little name-calling myself. I call people all sorts of bad names: "mullahs", "ayatollahs", "tin-hat dictators", "crooks," "Paleostinian legislators", "the Learned Elders of Islam," and — almost daily — "thugs", "gunnies," "snuffies", and "crazed killers." Sometimes I'll even descend to the level of calling someone a "psychopath," usually after they've killed a dozen people or so. But for goodness' sake, try and be a little creative! ("Mormons," indeed!)

And work on that spelling.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 02:57 pm || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But I'm sure someone could come up with a link between the Mormons, the Smart kidnapping, and the 9/11 terrorism plot. Perhaps the Moran thing is a reference to some backhills Appalachian blood feud, which would incidently explain the spelling.
Posted by: Tom Roberts || 08/24/2002 16:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, I assumed they actually meant "Morans", as in relatives of Erin Moran---Joanie of "Happy Days" and "Joanie Loves Chachi" fame. I figured there must be some dark conspiracy tying Ms. Moran to some nefarious plot against the American people.

I went so far as to google up a bunch of links on her, but reading them threatened to put me into a deep, deep coma. At the last minute I shook it off and did something else.

So I never did discover whether Erin Moran is part of a Vast Potsie-Wing Conspiracy to...hey!
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 08/24/2002 21:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Sir: you forgot "Boomers".

It is sad to reflect on why I remember that phrase.
Posted by: Raj Against The Machine || 08/25/2002 17:13 Comments || Top||


Sulfur and melons and Niyazov...
Sassafrass Log points to this London Times piece on Turkmenistan and Woody Allen its president.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:53 pm || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Axis of Evil
Anecdotes about Kim Jong Il's last Russian vacation...
A heavy rain frequently fell on St. Petersburg from some days ago before Kim Jong Il arrived there during his Russian tour last year. Officials who came out to receive him looked up to the sky with concern. But it did not rain when he laid a wreath, reviewed a guard of honor and visited a museum after arriving there. There was a torrential rain only right after he got on a car.
Why, that's amazing!
A cloudy sky began to clear up when he arrived at Lenin Square.
Simply amazing!
A torrential rain fell again when he boarded a car and headed for the Kirov Factory after going round the statue of Lenin and a metro station.
Yep. God Lenin Sombody's definitely waching over him...
A Russian official on hand, surprised at the wonders of nature, told him as follows: "Comrade Kim Jong Il, the sun is yours as people say. You seem to let the sun throw its rays, when necessary, while going with it kept in your pocket".
Yasss... Dictators always look best with a thick coating of butter, don't they?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:04 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Apparently Mr. Kim also has some decided prediliction for mule meat, which apparently was not an easy menu item to come by in parts of the train ride on the Trans Siberian RR. His fits of pique concerning this diplomatic lapse had his guides in fits also.
Posted by: Tom Roberts || 08/24/2002 17:01 Comments || Top||

#2  How 'bout that? The Dear Leader likes old-time American food!

In the Old West, soldiers used to eat what they called the Jenny Lind steak, which was the tongue of a played-out mule. It was named after the popular singer of the day...
Posted by: Fred || 08/24/2002 17:52 Comments || Top||


Globalization inevitable, Iran should clear its way
Leader's consultant in Foreign Affairs Ali-Akbar Velayati said that globalization is inevitable and Iran should clear its way by gaining necessary information on its global dimension. The Former Iranian foreign minister told a group of students of technology that one cannot surrender himself to the effects of globalization process passively.
Nope. You've got to work hard to overcome heretical ideas and insidious Western concepts. Like cause and effect.
He all the same enumerated the positive consequences of globalization, including the access of the representatives of all nations, groups and civilizations, including the strong and weak to a collection of information highways, cheaper prices of commodities and lower costs of production.
Those are the arguments globalists make in favor of globalization. You don't have to look real hard to find the advantages. You have to go through a few mental gynastics and risk dislocating your frontal lobes to deprecate them...
Velayati said that so far, the links between the third world and the West in the economic, cultural, political and social fields have been one-sided but today, one can transfer all achievements and findings to the other party thanks to the expansion of communication methods.
That's quite true. The danger to Iran and its kindred states lies in the side lobes of global culture: individual freedom and the access to like-minded views on an international level. Authoritarian states protect themselves by controlling information, and that's impossible when information's freely available...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:04 am || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Iran busts ring trafficking women to Pakistan
Iranian authorities busted a ring based in the northeastern city of Mashhad responsible for trafficking dozens of young women to Pakistan where they were forced into prostitution.
In Pakistan? Ewwwww!
Police in Mashhad uncovered the ring after a young women named Fariba called her mother from Karachi in Pakistan to tell her she had been forced into prostitution, the daily Iran newspaper reported Saturday. Her mother then alerted the authorities.
Bet Mom was really happy to hear from her. Pop, too, for that matter...
The ring included two Afghans, and 30 men and women from the southern Sistan-Baluchestan province near the long border with Pakistan. They had tracked down dozens of young women in the impoverished province and convinced their families to marry them off to seemingly wealthy men. The women were then transferred to Pakistan, notably Karachi, where they were sold for 400 to 1,200 dollars to mostly Afghan-run prostitution rings, according to witnesses cited in the report. The ring was busted after a joint investigation led by police in Mashhad's Khorassan province and Paksitani authorities, who returned at least eight "young girls" back to Iran — though many more are still said to be in Pakistan.
The Muslim world points that finger at the loose morals of us Merkins, but they seem to have a real talent for white slavery. We can also translate "Afghan" to read "Pashtun" — I doubt greatly that it's Tadjiks and Hazaras who're running around Pakland selling whores.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:04 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Speaking of loose morals, how about all those shameful single mothers in Florida. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
Posted by: Anonymous Scold || 08/24/2002 8:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Good point. If I was ayatollah, I would have the people who promulgated that set of rules flogged. Through some oversight on the part of God, I'm not. Until He changes His mind, I guess we'll have to wait for the voters in that district to notice that the people they elected to run things were dropped on their heads. No doubt they'll replace them as soon as they do, but if not, they'll be getting the kind of local government they deserve.

In Iran, on the other hand, God appointed a full set of ayatollahs to rule in His name, by divine right. If you disagree with them, you're disagreeing with God (or at least Mohammad) and they'll try to kill you.

Some of the Interpreters of the Will of God™ - the ones you can't disagree with under penalty of death - have found it convenient to run whorehouses and steal young girls, some as young as seven, to staff them. Iran's voters will have to wait for God to deal with them, eh?
Posted by: Fred || 08/24/2002 12:28 Comments || Top||


President Hussein chairs Cabinet meeting
Baghdad, August 13
President Saddam Hussein on Tuesday chaired the 36th Cabinet meeting [of the year]. The meeting discussed issues on its agenda and adopted necessary recommendations and decisions. The Cabinet discussed the results a Committee headed by Vice-President Taha Yassen Ramadan to reach to put a plan to develop the centers of Iraqi provinces in a way that secures basic services. It was decided to convey the Committee’s proposals to the Ministry of Planning.
"Here. Take care of this crap. I'm too busy to waste my time with it..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:04 am || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Uday sez Jund al-Islam is an Iranian creation...
Iran, not al-Qaeda, is behind a hardline Islamist group in Iraq's Kurdish-rebel-held north which has reportedly experimented with deadly toxin on animals, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's elder son Uday said Friday. "The Iranians set up the Islamist group called Jund al-Islam (Soldiers of Islam) which has not the slightest connection with Islam but equally has no link with the al-Qaeda network," Uday told his Youth TV network. "It's a straightforward Iranian trick. The Iranians know perfectly well that Kurdistan is a Sunni Muslim region and the idea of transforming it into a Shiite area is completely out of the question, so they must find another game to play."
So a Shi'ite terrorist state sets up an organization of Sunni terrorists in a neighboring Sunni area? I suppose that makes sense, if the primary goal is terrorism rather than Shi'ite theology...
Uday's comments came after Kurdish rebel leader Jalal Talabani hinted earlier this week that Baghdad might have links with a group of former Arab volunteers from the war in Afghanistan who had found refuge with a small rival faction, the Islamic Movement of Iraqi Kurdistan (IMIK).
So the terror skills were there, and they just showed up when the Talibs were thumped. But they still have to buy groceries, and, more important, arms and ammunition. So who's supporting them?
Western press reports have charged that both Baghdad and Tehran have provided support to the Ansar al-Islam (Followers of Islam), the hardline IMIK offshoot said to have sheltered the fugitive former al-Qaeda fighters.
Both? Well, it might make sense if all they want to do is destabilize the Kurdish-held areas. Kinda short-sighted, but that's sure not unusual. And maybe they're more concerned at this point with wiping out the Sufis...
Uday's accusations of Shiite proselytism against Jund al-Islam highlighted his insistence that the group had no links to al-Qaeda — like its longtime patrons, Afghanistan's Taliban militia, the group is fanatically anti-Shiite.
I'm confused. I thought Jund al-Islam were Sunnis? Abu Zubaydah used to be their controller. Uday seems to be working pretty hard to distance the Ba'ath regime from al-Qaeda...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:04 am || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


US Directs Secret Attacks On Iraq
Turkish jets escorted helicopters which carried Turkish commandos to seize the airport at Bamerni in northern Iraq, about 50 miles north of Mosul. On August 8, according to reports in the Turkish press, British and US special forces accompanied the Turkish force, which seized the airport after a short battle in which the Iraqi defenders were slaughtered. The occupation of Bamerni gives the US-Turkish forces the ability to strike at will at the Syrian-Iraqi railroad, a key supply link for Baghdad.
And on the 12th of August Sammy was sending out defiant messages from his fueherbunker, 160 feet down...
While a highly publicized debate continues in the pages of the American press on the subject of when and how — rather than whether — to launch a war with Iraq, the US military is pushing ahead with the logistical and technical preparations for the invasion and occupation of the Middle East country. More than 100,000 American and British troops are already on station in the region immediately surrounding the country. Significantly, according to several American press accounts, that is well above the minimum number of troops required under the most recent scenario for an invasion of Iraq proposed by General Tommy Franks, commander of the US Central Command. Franks reportedly briefed President Bush in the White House in early August on plans to attack Iraq with 50,000 to 80,000 troops, a force that could be made ready for operations in only two weeks, instead of the worst-case invasion scenario, requiring 250,000 troops and a three-month buildup, which CentCom originally proposed last May.
There are also about 11,000 other scenarios being tossed around. Sammy must be so confused...
Many of the US deployments are new, and publicly explained by Washington as measures being taken in the ongoing “war on terrorism.” However, the largest groups of American and British troops are in position to attack Iraq, not Al Qaeda. These include 37,000 US troops in the Persian Gulf states—up 12,000 since March—and 27,000 British troops in the same area—up 7,000 over that time. The most rapid US buildup is in Turkey, with the US force swelling from 7,000 to 25,000 by the end of July. Some 6,400 US troops are in Jordan, with 4,000 arriving in the past week for joint exercises with the Jordanian army.
Ummm... Yep. That's a bunch. Coordinating them must be something of a nightmare, but it's a lot of troops...
A diagram of the location of American military forces in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Horn of Africa looks increasingly like a noose around Baghdad. US soldiers, sailors and airmen are now stationed in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, Eritrea and Kenya, with naval forces offshore in the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea and the Mediterranean.
Kathy pointed that out a while back...

Leading up to October 8th there were similar reports about Afghanistan. At one point Debka had the entire Russian 203rd Motorized Rifle Division, with its tanks and APCs, back in Afghanistan. Most of the reports turned out to be similarly apocryphal — though a few weren't.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 09:10 am || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whew. If that jihadunspun website unspins any harder it's going to start a tornado going... (not that particular article, just their choice of 'news').
I think I'll take them with the same size grain of salt I take with Debka. ;)
Posted by: Kathy K || 08/24/2002 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  I still think that the NA accession of armor (in working order no less) around Mazar i Sharif could only be explained by the Russians handing over about a motorized rifle regiment's material assets. It would not have taken the whole division.
Posted by: Tom Roberts || 08/24/2002 16:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Fred, I don't get any respect! (I'm the Rodney Dangerfield of bloggers...), but I blogged about this joint US/British/Turkish attack on Bamerni, the tightening "noose" and the DebkaFile report a couple of weeks ago and got peanuts thrown at me by my commenters!
At least coming from you and JihadUnspun, it sounds more official!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/26/2002 18:49 Comments || Top||


Conn. congressman takes up 'No Blood for Oil' chant...
Attacking Iraq could create "the united Islamic jihad against us" that terror master-mind Osama bin Laden sought to establish with his Sept. 11 attack, a member of the state's Congressional delegation said Wednesday.
But it probably won't...
Following a tour of several Middle Eastern countries this month, which included visits with American troops, diplomats and foreign dignitaries, U.S. Rep. John Larson, (D-CT), said launching "a unilateral strike" against Saddam Hussein's regime would create massive problems. "We shouldn't be placing our kids in harm's way to keep oil flowing to this country and the Western world," said Larson, a two-term incumbent. Larson said that containment has worked to keep Iraq in check since the 1991 Gulf War and even neighboring nations who loathe Hussein prefer to maintain the existing sanctions rather than support an invasion of Iraq.
That's because they're afraid that when Iraq falls they're going to fall, too. It's a latter-day domino theory...
Larson, a member of the Armed Services Committee, said, "Iraq is a toothless tiger" and he is confident American forces could be at the doorstep to Baghdad within a week if the Bush administration decides to strike. But he worries that getting Hussein will be tough work because the dictator will likely use chemical and biological weapons — maiming American troops — and force innocents to take up positions as human shields that will get them slaughtered as the military moves in on Hussein.
Does he have D.J. Wu moonlighting, writing his position papers? That's not the first time those arguments have been used. Or maybe it is, in the run-up to this Gulf War...
Larson said he is concerned "the innocent slaughter of Muslims" involved in any invasion "will create, in essence, what Osama bin Laden was unable to do, a united Islamic jihad against us." He said the fallout from an invasion could be a wave of terrorism across America. "For what?" Larson asked. "Is it because we want to get rid of Saddam Hussein or is it because we want the flow of oil?"
"Like, 'No Blood for Oil,' Dood!"
I can remember in the wake of the last Gulf War, when U.S. forces were pulling back from Basra, people came out of the hospital with IVs trailing, not wanting to be left behind. That's the kind of hatred of the U.S. that'll ensue this time, too, if we stomp Sammy.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 01:34 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What will happen if weapons of mass destructions are used against US troops? The National Security Act prescribes specific response measures, which are placed in secret "Directives."
Even the President couldn't prevent said prescription, and it wouldn't be for a Tylenol.
Posted by: RG Fulton || 08/24/2002 21:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Bringing the war home to Afghanistan was supposed to precipitate a united Muslim jihad, too. Maybe that's what Bin Laden was hoping for.
What actually happened: some dupes from Pakistan, egged on by the mullahs, trudged over there to fight alongside the Taliban. Heh.
Posted by: Anonymous || 08/25/2002 0:31 Comments || Top||

#3  The Taliban also turned back half of the volunteers....piously....
Posted by: Anonymous || 08/25/2002 7:17 Comments || Top||


Europe
French author sued for insulting Islam
A French novelist, renown for his anti-Muslim attitudes, is being sued by four Muslim organizations in Paris after making insulting remarks about Islam in an interview on his latest book. The action against Michel Houellebecq, 44, is being launched on 17 September by plaintiffs including Saudi Arabia's World Islamic League and the Mosque of Paris, reported BBC’s online news service.
World Islamic League, led by Mufti Abdul Aziz bin Baz, is the umbrella organization controlling the International Islamic Relief Organisation and the Islamic Relief Agency.
Dalil Boubakeur, imam of the Paris mosque, said Muslims felt insulted by comments in the novel Plateforme, in which a character admits to a "quiver of glee" every time a "Palestinian terrorist" is killed, reported the BBC.
Boy, am I in trouble. Guess I'd better call my lawyer now...
Last December, Chems Hafiz, an attorney acting for Muslim authorities in Paris said that Houellebecq was to appear in court to face charges of inciting religious hatred. Hafiz said a Paris court was due to hear the complaint filed by officials from the main mosques in Paris and Lyon on February 5. The literary magazine Lire (Reading), which published Michel Houellebecq's remarks, is also cited as a defendant.
So if you express the opinion that you don't like Muslims in France — say, for their little cultural foibles like killing and maiming people — they can take you to court, and will, backed by a Soddy front NGO. If that doesn't work, they'll probably just get somebody to issue a fatwah against him and kill him...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 08:13 am || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front
Mazen Al-Najjar deported...
A Palestinian professor was finally deported Thursday after a seven-year legal fight to remain in the United States. Mazen Al-Najjar left the United States at 9 a.m. Thursday for an undisclosed Middle Eastern country. Al-Najjar's final destination was unclear early Friday, but an official with the Embassy of Bahrain in Washington said he had been granted a two-week tourist visa. Jamal Rowaie, a spokesman for the embassy, told the St. Petersburg Times that immigration officials would reject Al-Najjar because his visa was only for ordinary tourists. "His case is not an ordinary case," Rowaie said. "Because of that, Bahrain will not allow him to come."
They don't need him, either. I imagine he'll eventually end up in Damascus...
Al-Najjar, who has a doctorate in engineering and once taught Arabic language classes at the university, spent more than 3 years in jail on secret evidence that prosecutors said linked him to terrorists. He was released in 2000 but arrested again in November and held until his deportation.
Seems they had something on him, if only the quality of people he associates with...
Al-Najjar, 45, is the brother-in-law of Sami Al-Arian, a computer science professor. The University of South Florida filed a lawsuit Wednesday seeking to fire Al-Arian if it would not violate his constitutional rights. At a news conference Thursday, Al-Arian said the university wanted to fire him because of bias spawned by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. "I'm an Arab, I'm a Palestinian, I'm a Muslim. That's not a popular thing to be these days," he said. "Do I have rights or don't I have rights?"
"You have the right to remain silent..."
Both Al-Najjar and Al-Arian have denied any connection to terrorists, and neither has been charged with a crime. The deportation order naming Al-Najjar says he overstayed his visa, which was issued 20 years ago. Al-Arian, born in Kuwait, came to the U.S. from Egypt more than a quarter-century ago. Al-Arian and Al-Najjar founded the World and Islam Studies Enterprises, a now-defunct Islamic think tank at the university that was raided by the FBI in 1995.
It was a fund-raising front for Islamic Jihad...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:13 am || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Bush to make nice with Prince Bandar at Crawford...
President Bush will meet next week with Saudi Arabian Ambassador Prince Bandar as strains between their two countries complicate the president's plans to oust Iraq leader Saddam Hussein. "He's coming to talk about a variety of regional issues," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Friday. The meeting will take place Tuesday at Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas. The ranch visit, a coveted diplomatic plum, is designed to smooth relations with the Saudi government after a series of setbacks, including a recommendation to a Pentagon advisory board that the Arab ally be given an ultimatum to stop supporting terrorism or face retaliation.
"Y'all just cool down for now. We'll get to you later, if you haven't changed your ways..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 12:40 pm || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wish I could be as optimistic...to me, looks like just another public fellating of Poppy's paymasters.
Posted by: Jeff || 08/24/2002 21:57 Comments || Top||

#2  I took a time machine to September 1, 2002. Saudi Arabia did not exist.
Posted by: RG Fulton || 08/24/2002 22:02 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Al Qaida Plan To Strike Pakistani Authorities
Al Qaeda forces have reportedly completed their planning for a terrorist attack against the Pakistani authorities, on the instructions of Osama Bin Laden.
Writing from the Great Beyond...
An official Pakistani government communiqué sent to the four provincial home secretaries says, "It has been reported that Osama plans to conduct a terrorist operation against the Pakistani authorities in retaliation for the arrest of Al Qaeda members." Official sources told Daily Times that Osama has also instructed all Al Qaeda members and their families to leave Pakistan immediately. They said the intelligence agencies had unearthed the plan and informed the federal government that these underground Al Qaeda elements might target higher functionaries of the present government in the federal and provincial capitals.
So they expect to cheese the Paks enough that they'll come into the tribal areas and kill them all: men, women, children, and their dogs. Or do they have a bioweapon that'll kill everybody in sight, and they don't want to be in sight when it happens?
Sources said that in light of the intelligence agencies' report, the provincial governments and the district administration of the federal capital have been directed to enhance security around all persons associated with the military government. Sources added that the official communiqué also revealed that the Al Qaeda operatives are currently in safe houses in the tribal area.
We knew that. Usually the Paks deny it, publicly anyway. I guess it'd make sense that they'd be admitting it internally, if only for purposes of self-preservation.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 09:22 am || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


The other victims of jihad...
Four times in the last four years, Bashir Butt tracked down his son at training camps for Islamic extremists in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir and begged him to come home. On Aug. 9, police arrived at the Butts' modest home here and told them their son Kamran, 21, was dead. He died while attacking Christians leaving a church in Taxila about 30 miles west of Islamabad. Three Christian nurses were killed and a fourth was mortally wounded.
Yasss... We all remember it well. An heroic attack against unarmed nurses. Something for the jihadis to be proud of...
Bashir Butt, however, remembers his son as a shy boy who never caused trouble in the neighborhood and who ''had a great respect for his fellow human beings.''
Unless they were infidels, of course...
''We never thought that one day he would become a terrorist,'' Bashir Butt said. ''We never even imagined. ... These cruel jihadis made him a terrorist.''
Him and lots of others...
Kamran Butt was one of thousands of young Pakistani men who have been drawn in recent years into the network of Islamic extremists, known here as ''jihadis,'' who recruited them to fight the Indian army in Kashmir and in Afghanistan before the collapse of the Taliban last year. They were motivated in part by religious conviction and in part by the romance of battling the nonbelievers in the name of God like the great heroes of the Muslim faith centuries ago. Among young and impressionable men, poorly educated and with a narrow view of the world, the appeal of the jihadis is as strong as that of religious cults among spiritual youth in the West.
A little more bloodthirsty than the Hari Krishnas, Moonies, or Scientologists, though...
To Kamran's family, however, his death seems pointless. It has left his family deeply bitter over the extremist groups and what they had done to him. ''I hate these jihadi organizations,'' said Bashir Butt, a 48-year-old widower with two other sons and a daughter. ''I hate these so-called jihadi leaders. They are the killers of my son.''
Some of us have been pointing that out for some time now. The ones pointing it out who're in Pakistan stand a fairly good chance of getting assassinated...
Bashir Butt said his son got caught up in the jihadi movement after joining Jamaat-e-Islami, a major Islamic political party. Although details are unclear, it appeared that Kamran Butt was recruited by Jaish-e-Mohammed. Four years ago, Kamran disappeared for the first time, leaving a message for his family that he had gone ''to participate in jihad (holy war)'' in Kashmir, the father said. Bashir Butt, who runs a small telephone service here, set off for Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, finally locating his son at a Jaish-e-Mohammed training camp there. Militant leaders told the father to leave but assured him they would send his son home in three days. The militants kept their word, but the son disappeared again after a few months.
That was surprising. But four years ago the lad was 17. They were probably willing to wait until he was mature cannon fodder.
''The second time, I spotted him at a camp near Muzaffarabad,'' Bashir Butt said, referring to the capital of Pakistani-controlled Kashmir. Again, the son returned after a few days. After a few months, he was gone again — off to the jihad. The cycle was repeated until the beginning of this year, Bashir Butt said.
I knew a lot more about the ways of the world, to include what's really right and wrong, than my Dad when I was that age, too. Luckily the knowledge never killed me and broke his heart...
''During the last four or five months, I could not find him,'' Bashir Butt said. ''He made a few calls to his family, and I thought he would be back like always. But this time, instead of him, the police came. I was informed that my son was dead and that he has killed worshippers at a church.'' Police told the family that Kamran Butt was among four militants who hurled grenades at worshippers as they left church after a morning prayer service. Police said a fragment from one of the grenades pierced his heart, and he died instantly.
Pop sounds like a perfectly nice man whose son has been stolen from him by a bunch that doesn't mind how many eggs it has to break to make the omelette of khalifate. I feel sorry for him, even though I don't have a shred of sympathy for the kid, who sounds like he was a jerk.
The father said he repeatedly tried to talk his son out of devoting his life to the extremist movement but ''Kamran always politely refused my suggestions... He used to tell us that this world is mortal and we should spend our life in accordance with the teachings of Islam and that Islam says we must participate in jihad,'' Butt said.
A regular little beturbanned robot...
According to the father, no representative of any of the country's Islamic militant groups has contacted the family to express condolences.
Why bother? The kid's dead — just cannon fodder, expendable and easily replaced by some other father's kid...
That's just as well, Bashir Butt said. ''I will kill them, I will butcher them, I will make a horrible example of them if they came here for condolence,'' Butt said.
Well, that's one of Pakland's 140 or so million who don't like them...
Butt said he wants to visit the church where his son died to express his sorrow over the deaths of innocent people. ''But I'm not sure how they will receive me,'' he said.
Since they're Christians, the reception will probably be more polite than if he went to call at a mosque under the same circumstances. Bloodthirsty revenge isn't a requirement of Christianity.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 01:22 pm || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Terrible jokes need to be made: 1) Does Mssr. Butt have a brother? [the Butt Brothers?] 2) Does Mssr. Butt have friends? [the Butt Buddies]...boy, I could keep going all day with this.
Posted by: Anonymous || 08/24/2002 19:06 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Palestinian Christian Leader Detained
Israeli occupation authorities detained a senior Palestinian Christian Orthodox leader today and took him for questioning to a police center in Occupied East Jerusalem, Palestinian sources revealed. Archimandrite Atallah Hanna was taken from his home in the Old City following an order by Israel's Attorney General Elyakim Rubenstein. Israeli security sources alleged that the Archimandrite is suspected of attempting to meet with heads of "terrorist" organizations and praising Palestinian struggle in comments published previously by the media.
Guess he's still a senior church official, but the Patriarch of Jerusalem fired him a month and a half ago for his extreme statements against Israel, Zionists, and Christians who support Israel. The Patriarch accused him of "supporting the Palestinian terrorism." Maybe that had something to do with why they wanted to talk to him...
Palestinian Muslim and Christian figures called for the immediate release of Archimandrite Hanna, describing his detention as a violation of the right to religious freedom and free speech.
Besides, he has the key to the explosives locker...
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Israel Stops Withdrawal - Talks Fail
Palestinian officials said that Israel had failed to fulfill an agreement between the two sides about a withdrawal from the reoccupied autonomous city of Bethlehem and areas in the Gaza Strip. Nabil Abu Rudeina, a senior adviser to Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, said talks with Israeli representatives on the agreement were “dragging on” and were once again postponed until next Monday.
They'll probably continue to "drag on" because one side doesn't want anything of substance to come out of them...
Meanwhile, Israel has announced that there will be no further withdrawals of its troops until the Palestinian Authority takes more steps to halt attacks by Palestinian groups. The Israeli Army's head of central command, General Moshe Kaplinski, made the announcement after meeting Friday with his Palestinian counterpart, General Haj Ismail.
And that won't happen because if the Paleocoppers crack down on the Islamothugs and al-Aqsa Brigades they risk a civil war, which they stand a good chance of losing...
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Southeast Asia
Priest sez Abu Sabaya doesn't sleep with the fishes...
Philippines' Parish Priest Cirilo Nacorda of Lamitan, Basilan has told reporters that the dreaded Abu Sayyaf kidnap leader, Abu Sabaya, is "alive and the group is intact".
I got that feeling when they couldn't find the body...
Nacorda's credibility has swung at higher heights after he linked three Philippine military (AFP) officials with the Abu Sayyaf. The Senate of the Philippines, after a long investigation, found enough evidence to recommend court martial proceeding against the three officers. The three AFP officers were Major General Romeo Dominguez, Colonel Juvenal Narcise, and Major Eliseo Campued. They were accused of allowing the Abu Sayyaf to escape a military dragnet in Lamitan, Basilan last year.
Amazing, what a little money will do...
This report of Sabaya being alive and in Basilan has been the "talk of the town" and the subject of text messages. But the government and the military never discarded their official position that Sabaya, Aldam Tilao in real life, died in that sea encounter in Zamboanga del Norte. Nacorda said Sabaya has been in various places in Basilan after his reported death. Sabaya, according to the priest, was twice in Maluso, in Lamitan, and Tuburan. He even attended thanksgiving celebration offered by relatives for his safe return.
I'm not sure whether I believe this one or not. It's certainly possible, since they didn't recover the corpse, and false reports of Bad Guys' demise are common enough. On the other hand, unless a corpse is actually stuffed and mounted, these guys seem to keep rising from the dead without making any really public appearances — a few friends, maybe, but usually they just hang out with the same old gang: Elvis, Judge Crater, Ambrose Bierce, sometimes Martin Bormann...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 08/24/2002 07:52 am || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You forgot the False Dmitrii.
http://citd.scar.utoronto.ca/HISB07/3.CS/3.L/3.L.30.html
Posted by: Tom Roberts || 08/24/2002 17:07 Comments || Top||



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