Severalbloggers have been commenting on the fact that the Saudis have, as a gesture of good will to mend fences with the USA have offered the survivors of the 9-11 attacks a dead horse. It's a cultural thing, innit? I mean, otherwise, you'd think they were just plain stoopid...
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By Pepe Escobar, Asia Times...
Al-Qaeda, "the base", is now extinct. Al-Qaeda has a brand new name: Fath-e-Islam (Victory of Islam). And Fath-e-Islam's leader, none other than Osama bin Laden, is very much alive. But not anymore in Pakistan. Osama has returned to Afghanistan. More precisely, the Kunar province. Christian Science Monitor had a similar report on August 9th...
Key players in the ultra-complex Pakistan-Afghanistan game had been saying that since the fall of Kabul in November 2001 that "the last battle" in this ongoing war would be in Kunar. The scenario now seems more than likely. The Taliban and the rebranded al-Qaeda have full tribal support in Kunar â where everybody seems to know someone who died from the American bombing of Afghanistan. A Pashtun notable puts the issue succinctly, "If the Americans are serious about grabbing Osama, they will have to put up a fight. On the ground. Man to man. There will be a lot of body bags." Ummm... Probably not. That's the Pashtun way, as long as they have the other side outnumbered, anyway. If we could get a fix on him, rather than sending in lots of young fellows to do battle with the turbans on the ground it's more likely we'd level everything for a couple miles in either direction and then poke through the rubble. And if everyone knows someone who died in the bombing, guess everyone was pretty closely involved with the Taliban in one way or the other, so my sympathy meters still snoozing...
On August 10, the Daily Ummat, the number one Urdu-language paper in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, published a front-page story filed from Asadabad, Afghanistan (the capital of Kunar). The story did not appear in other Pakistani English-language papers, nor in the international media, for that matter. The story was headlined "Osama spotted in Pakistani area - Dir". Dir, in the northern strip of the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) is about 80 kilometers from the Afghan border in Kunar province. The story also said that Ayman al-Zawahiri, aka "The Surgeon", was reorganizing al-Qaeda something like 50 kilometers west of Chitral. Chitral, north of Dir, is at the base of the Hindu Kush mountains. The article wasn't all that ignored. It formed the base for the al-Quds al-Arabi story on Binny being back at the helm...
This is a pretty long article. Rather than take up the entire page, I've stashed the whole thing in core dump%. (No, it's not the premium version of Rantburg. That's where I keep the ones that get really verbose.) If you've got the time and the attention span to spend, it might be worth a read.
Dan Hartung and Alicia both jumped on this one. I think it was the guy with the sore shoulder...
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"If the Americans are serious about grabbing Osama, they will have to put up a fight. On the ground. Man to man. There will be a lot of body bags."
Your right, buddy. Lots and lots of body bags. Real small ones -- about the size of a ziplock sandwich bag. And all of them containing Pashtun meat paste.
Isn't it amazing? I'm referring to all these folks out there who are convinced that if they bluster enough, we'll fight them the way THEY want us to fight instead of the way WE choose to fight?
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Less than 48 hours after IslamOnline published the first statement by the so-called Secret Afghani Army, U.S. and U.K. officials said they consider expanding the international peacekeeping force in Afghanistan beyond Kabul. Oh, look! Cause and effect!
Both the U.S. and the U.K are considering several options including the creation of a mobile, rapid-reaction force that could be sent from Kabul to particular trouble spots as well as establishing ISAF contingents in several other cities, including Mazar-e-Sharif, Herat and Kandahar, reported the BBC, adding that, the Americans would not provide troops but would give support, as at present — air cover, transport and emergency evacuation would be vital. Don't suppose it would hurt to support the local copper corps...
The U.S. Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, was against deploying the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) beyond the Kabul area, as he thought it would interfere with American operations against the Taliban and al-Qaeda. The United States has, instead, put its faith in training a new Afghan army, but that is going more slowly than hoped. Some observers say the strategy is undermined by American support for local warlords helping the hunt for al-Qaeda. Or by the warlords sending their guys by to get some training before going back and slapping people around...
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US plans for military intervention in Iraq are part of a larger project to "balkanise" the region as part of a strategy proposed by Israel, the assistant secretary general of the Arab League, Said Kamal, said Thursday. "The Israelis have tried to balkanise Lebanon. They failed. Now, the United States has turned to other countries. One part of the administration is looking to Iraq and Sudan," he added. Sounds fine to me...
He said after Iraq and Sudan Washington would try to "balkanise" Saudi Arabia and Egypt in a re-formulation of the classic imperial "divide and rule" approach. Sounds even better...
In Sudan, Washington has supported the accord between the Khartoum government and rebels of the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) who control most of the south of the country. Egypt and other Arab states immediately blasted the accord as a US-sponsored partition of Sudan. We, on the other hand, regard it as a Sudanese problem, and don't really care. It's the crucifixions and slavery that stick in our national craw.
Some analysts see the same tendency in Iraq. According government newspaper Al-Ahram analyst Mahmoud Moawad, Washington seeks to carve up Iraq into three parts, with the current no-fly zones in the north of the country setting the stage for such a division. Sounds okay to me. Iraq has usually been two or three or more "countries," dating back before the Babylon-Assyria rivalry...
Meanwhile Al-Ahram columnist Mohammed Sid Ahmed saw in Bush's designs the need to "atone for the September 11 humiliation. "Everone has told him no, all US former officials, all Arab leaders; so where does his insistence stems from?", he asked. "Bush has a global vision, he is blind to what is regional. September 11 humiliated him and therefore (he thinks) he should strike at all costs. Answered his own question, didn't he? It's never going to happen again, if Bush can help it.
"It is Pearl Harbour, and there must be Hiroshima and Nagasaki," he told AFP. Hyperbolic, but I'd rather see Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Baghdad and Mossul â or Mecca and Riyadh â than in New York and Washington.
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Iraq said it did not fear threats of military action from the United States.
"We could not care less about the threats that are out there. Iraq has a long history with these threats and such despotism," Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan told reporters in Syria after meeting President Bashar Al Assad. "Nope. We ain't worried. I mean, Sammy's in a hole 160 feet down and I'm in Damascus, but we ain't worried..."
The official Syrian News Agency SANA said President Bashar Al Assad told Ramadan that Syria would stand by Iraq and opposes the threats targeting it. "This visit has an economic character but it also has a political dimension, especially as Syria opposes a strike on Iraq and is working hard to build an Arab front to head off any US attack," political analyst Imad Shueibi said. Damascus argues an attack on Iraq is the first step towards installing a host of Middle East puppet regimes subordinated to Washington and its ally the Zionist entity. Nailed that one, didn't he? That's as opposed to a host of Middle East puppet regimes subordinated to the Saudi Entity.
On the other hand, Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said Iraq does not fear ongoing attempts to improve US-Saudi relations regarding the Saudis' rejection of US military strike against Iraq. "We have no fears," Ramadan told United Press International while on a visit to Damascus. "We have a clear position we propose to the Arab countries and every country is free to take the position which it sees adequate." "The Soddies ain't gonna give up their hegemony, and we're willing to kiss Abdullah's, uh... ring to keep from getting flattened. (This better work, dammit!)"
He expressed the wish that the Arabs adopt one stand against aggression as it is clear that the Arab nation is targeted by the aggression which started today in Palestine, then Iraq, Saudi Arabia and later Syria. Ramadan said he was partly satisfied with the Arab position supporting Iraq, saying "it is better today compared to the past." "I mean, I think we should be in charge, but as long as it's not the Merkins, that's okay..."
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Michael Rubin, who spent 9 months in northern Iraq, has some news for the skeptics; war with Iraq will be easy.
Bite your tongue! Bite it again, harder! NEVER say such a thing! Saying such things is the absolute surest way to cause God to set up circumstances which will result in us not only being bitten in the National Ass, but gnawed. The circumstances may or may not involve the Iraqi army, or even Sammy.
I can agree with the premise that the Former Fourth Largest Army in the World ain't what she used to be. But just sitting here smoking my pipe, I can think of at a few scenarios that're chock full of snakes: what if, while we're merrily beating the hell out of the Elite Republican Guard⢠the Medes and Persians are invading the Kurdish territories? Don't like that one? How about a Hezbollah attack into northern Israel, causing Israel to begin kicking the snot out of Syria, thereby disrupting our Persian Gulf supply lines as shakey allies become indignant? How about the use of gas against our troops? Any idea how living in chem gear degrades combat effectiveness? Sammy doesn't care if a bunch of his people get waxed, and it doesn't take the combined might of the Hammurabi and Tawakalna divisions to deliver chem weapons â you can use artillery, mines, SCUDs or the shorter-range FROG, if it's still around. How about if he succeeds in inserting agents into the U.S. this time? He tried to assassinate Bush, Sr., so he'll probably make a try at G.W. Failing that, what if he attacks Jordan? Or Turkey? Or Kuwait?
Any military commander who does not assume that the enemy is willing and able to do terrible things to his force won't be trying to figure what those terrible things are and take countermeasures. It's a fundamental law of military operations that nothing ever goes as planned â just ask Sammy. If you don't believe him, hunt up General Westmoreland and ask him. Or Napoleon. He was going to deal with that "Sepoy General" at Waterloo. There ain't no sech animal as an "easy" military operation. "Plan for the worst, hope for the best."
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Of course the comments are glib and facetious, however the worst-case-scenarios you present aren't that bad. For example, the invasion of Kurdistan by Iran. While seeming illogical (wouldn't they go for the Shi'a south?), the extension of Iranian supp ly lines would be a very fun thing to watch/bomb (a la the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, you can only go so far with a Soviet logistics system). The Hezbollah attacks you predicted are happening but with infrequent regularity; an interview with the Israeli Chief of Staff dismisses Hizbollah and says Israel is ready to deal with such a contingency. Shakey allies...come on man! We know damn well the Soddies are unreliable. It's a question of do they wish to tangle with our force in theatre? I do believe that the Royal Saudi Navy would not like to tangle with a carrier fleet, I do believe that the Egyptians would make a terrible mistake (as in they lose the canal and the Sinai) if they close the Suez. The Chem attack we must, sadly, assume as an inevitable factor. We can't wish it away and we have to assume that we will be attacked in some degree by the Iraqi forces. As for the insertion of agents into the US, you are portraying a scenario of escalation which has one answer. Our stated policy for a WMD attack on this nation is a reprisal using...another form of WMD that will not be mentioned. I do believe that is crystal clear, to every nation who has pretentions to the situation, that to get in front of the juggernaut of our armed forces is a terrible (radioactive) mistake.
I believe that we have, at least theoretically addressed, the sum of all worst-case-scenarios planned out in a vault in Macdill Air Force Base. However, I have every confidence that years of training and the brilliance, resourcefulness (and overwhelming firepower) of the American military will make this war (if it happens) much easier then we all fear. We have planned for the worst, we shall hope for the best, but we will have all the aces in our hands, as former General Chuck Horner said.
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Georgian troops on a mission to uproot militants from the rugged Pankisi Gorge are searching for an abducted British businessman and other kidnap victims believed to be held there, officials said Friday. Just knowing will probably make him feel better...
Georgia launched the sweep in Pankisi after increasing pressure from Russia to take action against militants the Kremlin says have launched cross-border incursions into the breakaway republic of Chechnya. Georgia has turned down Russia's persistent demands to allow its troops to attack Chechen rebels who are holed up in the area, saying it would do the job itself — relying on training provided by the U.S. military experts deployed to Georgia. "Don't bother us with that stuff," they told the Russers. Then, so they don't have to learn how to speak Russian again, they seem to have gotten off the stick and taken a swing at it. Ain't international politix grand?
Georgian Interior Minister Koba Narchemashvili, whose troops marched into the gorge near the border of Chechnya on Sunday, said authorities have ``certain information'' that British banking expert Peter Shaw was in the gorge. However, he said ``but I can't say for certain.'' Meaning he could be in some other gorge...
Shaw was abducted June 18 outside his home in Tbilisi. He had been preparing to leave this Caucasus Mountains nation, where he had worked for six years. Officials believe several other hostages are in the gorge, including a Georgian priest. A German businessman, Klaus Ditler Droig, disappeared in July, but his whereabouts are unknown. "Nope. We looked everywhere. Couldn't find him. Maybe he went home? Did you check his bedroom?"
Pankisi residents have pushed the Georgian government to establish order in the gorge, which has seen kidnappings and other crime soar since Chechen rebels, along with thousands of Chechen refugees, settled in the area after the start of the second Russian war in the rebel republic in 1999. It's the old Camel's Nose Trick™, beloved of Islamists everywhere...
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The Dutch police said today that they have accused three members of a militant Muslim network of planning an attack on an American military base in northern Belgium. The men, one Frenchman and two Algerians, at least one of whom is suspected of having links with Al Qaeda, are in custody of the police, who had charged them earlier with preparing a terrorist attack on the American Embassy in Paris. During interrogation, the police learned of the plan to attack the American base, at Kleine-Brogel, near the Dutch-Belgian border, a police spokesman said. Kleine-Brogel is believed to be a nuclear weapons storage facility, so we can guess what their interest was...
Two of the three men â Abdelkader Rabia, an Algerian, and Jerome Courtailler, a Frenchman â were arrested in Rotterdam last Sept. 13 in connection with the embassy plot. The third member of the group, Adel Tobbichi, an Algerian, was recently arrested in Canada and was extradited to the Netherlands on the same charges. Their trial is scheduled to begin next month. The police would give no details about the plan to attack the American base. They might not even have any...
Authorities said the leader of the men's cell is Jamal Beghal, a Frenchman of Algerian origin who is well known to France's antiterrorist police. Mr. Beghal, the French police said, had close ties with Al Qaeda and had trained in a camp in Afghanistan. He was arrested in Dubai and awaits trial in France on terrorism charges. It sure would be nice of the Doo-babs of Dubai to send him to Paris. But if they do that, the Soddies will send people to subvert them... Thanks to Steve for the headzup on this one!
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For a few hours that Tuesday it felt like the Third World War, and so commentators fell into war mode. And by the time the networks had shuttled Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters and the other glamorous pain-feelers to the scene it was too late to revert to the banality of "healing" and "closure" and all the other guff of a soft-focus grief wallow. It's very, very rare for the media to be caught so off-guard by an event that they lose control of their ability to determine its meaning. Within minutes of JFK Jr's plane going down, for example, you know Dan Rather was dusting off his Camelot lyrics and the producers were ordering up their "America's Son" and "America's Prince" graphics.
But a year has gone by. And there seems to be an effort to do on the anniversary what they were unable to accomplish on the day: to make September 11th 2002 an occasion for "coping."'
I'm sorry. I just can't cope. I won't be able to cope until I've seen somebody's head on a pike, with an annual celebration of the fact, kind of like an American Guy Fawkes' Day.
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Sassafrass Log points to this: A speech by Matthew Rothschild, Editor of The Progressive magazine
I'd like to spend the next few minutes with you discussing an issue of utmost urgency: the impending invasion of Iraq that the Bush Administration is planning. Hokay. I've got a few minutes...
This invasion would be unconstitutional. How 'bout if we declare war? I think we should. Even if we don't, if Congress sez it's okay, who's gonna bitch?
It would be against international law. Not even given a legitimate causus belli, like f'instance shooting at our aircraft? Even without an overt action, a pretty good case can be made due to refusal to adhere to the "surrender" terms from Gulf War I. An ultimatum to disarm and permit inspectors or face the consequences should do the trick.
It would violate the Christian doctrine of "just war." I'm not a Christian. Does that mean the agnostics, atheists, Jews, Buddhists and Ba'hais inhabiting the country can whack him while the Christians stand back and hold our hats? How about Unitarians, Wiccans, Druids, and that sort of off-the-waller?
It would further damage U.S. relations with its allies, relations that are already frayed by Bush's mindless unilateralism. All that mindless unilateralism is predicated on an interpretation of our national interest that lotsa people consider to be legitimate. There's also a case to be made for standing up for what we as a nation believe to be correct. As Mom used to point out, if all the other kids are jumping off a bridge, that doesn't mean we should. The rest of the world has been wrong before. Remember the Cold War?
It would wreak havoc in the Muslim world, where there's plenty of havoc already. And this is bad because...? (See previous discussions of the difference between stagnation and stability.)
It could shake the U.S. economy, which is trembling right now. Perhaps we should get it out of the way, so the economy can settle down, rather than keep on edge for the next 8,000 years...
And most importantly, it could result in the deaths of thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of innocent people. Worst case: It could end with the United States dropping a nuclear bomb on Baghdad. No. That's the second-worst case. The worst case, what we're actually worried about happening if we don't act, is Baghdad dropping a nuclear bomb in the United States.
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"Worst case: It could end with the United States dropping a nuclear bomb on Baghdad."
What about the case where Baghdad drops a nuke on Tel Aviv? Followed immediately thereafter by Israel dropping nukes on Baghdad, Damascus, Riahd, Mecca, Tehran, etc. etc. etc.
Darned, left-liberals are so predictable. And short-sighted. They only ever look at the first step and never bother to look at the 2nd and subsequent steps.
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International law? I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Damage relations with our allies? Like, say, an unmentioned ally that sent 15 people to kill 3000 of ours? Mindless unilateralism? It's called "the national self-interest." Wreaking havoc? Quick quiz, Sherlock, last successful Arab uprising: (not Algeria, nor Iran, take your time).
How would it shake the economy, once more? Would a nuclear attack shake the economy more? As for your innocents dying, you still haven't explained Mohammed Atta meeting with a friendly Iraqi intelligence officer and then...thousands of our innocents died.
As for your spectre of nuclear war, I'll take my chances, thank you very much. So long as the EMP wave knocks out Iraqi communications, perhaps it won't be so bad after all.
When you handle my laundry list of objections, then you can take more of my precious time. Now you go away.
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Police arrested a dozen members of the banned Islamic militant group Harkatul Mujahideen from a secret hideout in Peshawar, suspected to have links with Al Qaeda sources said on Wednesday. A senior Crimes Investigation Department (CID) Police official said that a few of the arrested were foreign nationals, including an Afghan and an Iranian. "They are being interrogated and we hope information retrieved will lead us to more terrorists," he said on condition of anonymity. We do, too...
The CID police commandos, on a tip-off, raided the banned Harkatul Mujahideen's former office in Danishabad locality in the University Town area, but are not disclosing when the raid took place. Among the seized materials was a CD on building bombs and other explosive materials. Other materials included 12 time bombs, unspecified number of detonators, 2 Russian-made Kalashnikovs, pistols and small explosives. The suspects were arrested from the office basement. So they were banned, their office closed, and they waited until the heat was off and just moved back in, arms, ammunition, and everything. Sounds like the fix might have been in...
"Initial interrogation suggests the suspects belong to Al Qaeda," the official said, adding that the arrested men kept shuttling between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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I wonder how much hard currency would make the suspects "not al Qaeda"?
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Israel threatened Syria with "military escalation" if Hezbollah attacks are not prevented, a day after a rocket and mortar attack by the Damascus-backed Lebanese militia wounded three soldiers. The strike on the disputed Shebaa Farms border area came the same day Israel reeled under political fire after its tanks killed four members of a Palestinian family on another front, the battle against a nearly two-year-old Palestinian uprising. An Israeli official told AFP on condition of anonymity that Israel would not stand "idly by" if Syria continued to ratchet up the tension in Lebanon, where it exerts considerable influence. That threat came on the heels of a statement by Defence Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer after his meeting Thursday with US Middle East envoy David Satterfield warning that "the Syrians and the Lebanese are playing with fire." The driver for Hezbollah is Iran, with Syria as the cheering squad. On the other hand, Syria's a lot more accessible from Israel, isn't it?
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I was going to comment on the fact that the Paleostinian Minister of the Interior has requested the fundos crawling around his territory to cease and desist from indiscriminate killing and maiming. But Amish Tech Support did a perfectly find job of it:
Roust the killers out and jail or kill them.
Roust out the killers on your own PA payroll.
Close the kiddie suicide-bomber schools.
Smuggle in food and medicine, not weapons.
Rise up against your real oppressors, the Jordanians, Egyptians, and Saudis.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Hasyim Muzadi, the chairman of Indonesia's largest Muslim organization Nahdlatul Ulama, said the group strongly opposed any U.S. attack on Iraq. "We totally oppose a U.S. attack on Iraq. What would it be based on? There's never been a clear argument from the United States, and even their allies oppose it," Muzadi was quoted by The Jakarta Post as saying on the sidelines of a seminar on terrorism in Jakarta. "If the U.S. strikes, they will lose significant value as a democratic country, and we will protest," he said. Nahdlatul Ulama is said to have some 40 million supporters across the archipelago. See that over there, Hasyim? It's a chicken. It just came home to roost. If you spend all your waking days bitching and moaning about the USA in general, nobody cares what your opinion is when you bitch and moan about the specific.
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It's comments like this from national leaders (Ulama is a political party) which makes Washington so eager to help Indonesia. Sort of like the leftist Brazilian parties knocking the IMF and then wondering why the Real is going down the tubes.
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Hundreds of al-Qaeda members are under surveillance in America after their names were found on a terror chief's computer. Documents and CDs — described as al-Qaeda's corporate records - were seized at the home of the group's operations chief, Abu Zubaydah, in Pakistan. The stash has led directly to around 200 suspected al-Qaeda members being put under round- the-clock surveillance in the US. Officials say the list of those being watched by the FBI changes almost daily. It is believed the six men charged yesterday were caught thanks to information from the records. The documents show that up to 20,000 men who were trained in al-Qaeda terrorist camps are now scattered across the globe. Love those CDs!
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
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