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Suspect: Syrian Gave Turk Bombers $50,000
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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Another great Fourth Rail WOT Grpahic
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Posted by: Glaling Glaviper1723 || 10/11/2005 15:43 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is way cool! Thanks
Posted by: Captain America || 10/11/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Nice. Good to see.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 10/11/2005 16:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Nice presentation. MSM totally devoid of this information proving we are winning the WOT in Iraq.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 16:59 Comments || Top||

#4  doesn't prove squat..but pretty cool...all of this was reported in one msm or another...
Posted by: Unineter Clise8476 || 10/11/2005 20:32 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
Robber killed in 'crossfire'
A notorious robber of Araihazar upazila in the district was killed in a 'crossfire' during a shootout between the Rapid Action Battalion (Rab) and a gang of criminals early yesterday. According to Rab-3 sources, a Rab team arrested Rawshan Ali, 35, a listed criminal, at Nayapur Bazar in Sonargaon upazila on Monday night.
"Evening, Ali. Youse coming quietly, or do we have to start roughing you up right here?"
Following his statement,
"Awwwwwwwwwww!"
"Oh, quit your blubbering, it's not like you're going to be using that anytime soon."
the team took him to Noikahon area to arrest his accomplices and seize arms at around 3:00am.
Ah, yes, the magic hour.

When they reached Nayapur Bazar, robbers opened wildly inaccurate fire and the Rab men retaliated against the attack.
"We're under attack, shoot anything that moves!"
Rawshan, hit by bullets in the crossfire,
He moved
was declared dead when he was taken to a local hospital, a Rab source said.
All together now; "He's dead, Jim"
Rab seized one pistol, one gun, six bullets and machete from the scene.
In Bangla, that's a major arms cache
Rawshan and his accomplices used to commit robbery on the Dhaka-Sylhet and Dhaka-Chittagong highways and in Rupganj and Araihajar upazilas.
When they shot him down on the highway, Down like a dog on the highway,
And he lay in his blood on the highway, with a bunch of lace at his throat.
And still of a winter's night, they say, when the wind is in the trees,
When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,
When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor,
A highwayman comes riding- riding-riding-
A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door.

AL leader shot dead in Kishoreganj
KISHOREGANJ, Oct 10 (UNB): A local leader of Awami League was shot dead Sunday night at Nagorpur village in Nikli Upazila by armed miscreants which triggered angry protests.
Damm miscreants, always stiring things up.
The deceased, Abdul Qaiyum (45), president of Shingpur Union Awami League, was talking to his friends in his front courtyard after Tarabee prayers, at about 10pm, when some armed assailants opened fire on him.
"Eat lead, Abdul! KAPOW! KAPOW!"
"Erp......rosebud!"

Family sources said Qaiyum had "rivalry" with former chairman of Shingpur Union Parishad and local BNP leader Mukhtaruddin over a Jalmohal (water body).
"That thar be our waterhole!"
The body of Qaiyum was sent to the Sadar Hospital morgue and a case filed against 14 suspects. The accused all went into hiding, as the killing sparked off demonstrations in the area.
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2005 09:07 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Keerist, even the Bangla papers are putting "crossfire" in quotes now...
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2005 10:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Mojo, they've been doing that as long as I've been reporting on it. They also have their doubts about "confessions", "encounters" and "attempted escape"
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2005 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  The job of prosecutor in Bangla is like Maytag man here. He and the judge play cards all day.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2005 13:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Warms the cockles o' my heart to read such wonderful things early in the morning with my cup o' coffee, eye. Kind of like watching cartooons as a child.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 14:24 Comments || Top||


Britain
Bomb 'falls onto' school workman
A workman cutting a hedge at a County Antrim school escaped injury when a bomb fell onto his foot, the principal has said. Lesley Meikle said she did not believe Harryville Primary School in Ballymena was the intended target but is furious lives were put at risk. The school's 142 pupils were moved out while the device was defused. It is not being linked to the recent discovery of pipe bomb parts. Further suspect devices have also been found.

Mrs Meikle said maintenance men from the local education board were at the school, in the town's Casement Place area, when the incident happened at 0900 BST on Tuesday. "They were cutting the hedges for me and it fell out on one of the men that were cutting. Thankfully it didn't go off. That was a blessing. "We were taking children on the way to swimming when the workmen came down and told us to stop as they thought they had another suspicious device." "They had phoned the police and the police arrived around the same time. The maintenance men were rather shaken."

DUP assembly member Ian Paisley Junior, who visited the scene, expressed his horror at the incident. He said: "This school experienced this before last month when three pipe bomb devices were dumped nearby.
"It would be horrendous and deeply irresponsible should this have happened again. Those responsible clearly do not care for the well-being of children." The police said they did not think the school was the target.

On 12 September, three viable pipe bombs were found in the Harryville area. A follow-up search of the area is now under way, and the school has been closed for the rest of the day.
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Never let down your guard... listening USA !
And remember no more money !
Posted by: Slailing Spineth2383 || 10/11/2005 07:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Um, "fell" onto a guy's foot, huh? Fell from where? Don't say up, give the source ya mooks. So someone threw it over the building, what? I'm thinking everyone in this story is about as sharp as a bowling ball. Sheesh.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 8:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "They were cutting the hedges for me and it fell out on one of the men that were cutting.

It looks like it fell out of the hedge. One of those boys love to blow things up thingies?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2005 8:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh no, tw! It's 'sploding shrubberies!
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#4  In Autumn these nail and bearing bushes burst into color, mostly flesh tones.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#5  In Autumn these nail and bearing bushes burst into color, mostly flesh tones

hey, i wasn't expecting that!!

/wh'ere'ar'e m'y pa'per tow'els?
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 14:16 Comments || Top||

#6  DUP assembly member Ian Paisley Junior?


hmmmmmm
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 15:19 Comments || Top||

#7  I wasa wonder too Frank. Gotta be.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/11/2005 16:01 Comments || Top||


UK to ban 15 Islamic terrorist groups
The British government unveiled plans on Monday to outlaw 15 foreign Islamic militant groups as part of its campaign against terrorism following the July bombings here. Home Secretary Charles Clarke, Britain's senior law enforcement official, published a list of the groups and said he would seek Parliament's approval to "proscribe" them under counterterrorism laws approved in 2000.

The groups include Ansar al-Sunna, a group based in northern Iraq that has taken responsibility for suicide attacks in Kurdish areas and is believed to be an offshoot of Ansar al-Islam, another group in the region that was also on the British list. The Home Office said the groups would be effectively outlawed, and that anyone charged with being a member or supporter could face a prison term of up to 10 years and have their assets frozen.

In past years, Britain has banned 25 foreign groups, including Al Qaeda, and 14 groups in Northern Ireland, including the Irish Republican Army and various Protestant militant groups. "Proscription is an important power and not one to be used lightly," Mr. Clarke said on Monday. The list published on Monday included Islamic militant groups associated with Libya, Somalia, Morocco, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Some were said to have been formed in Afghanistan in the 1990's.

Last July 7, four bombers killed 52 people and themselves on three subway trains and a bus in London's worst peacetime attack. Two weeks later, attackers staged what seemed to have been a copycat attack which caused no direct casualties because the explosives failed to detonate. Since the attacks, Britain has promised to tighten its antiterrorism laws through measures such as extending the period for detention without charge or trial from 14 days to three months. Mr. Clarke said the list published on Monday underlined "the need to maintain a vigorous approach to dealing with terrorists and their supporters." He said Britain wished to signal "that we are not prepared to tolerate terrorism here or anywhere in the world."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:20 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, they'll just change names (see Pakiland).
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/11/2005 14:26 Comments || Top||

#2  UK was also "to deport" many dozens of unwanteds, but the Departure lounge remains distressingly empty...
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||

#3  As long as they are perminantly out circulation works for me,Sea.
Posted by: raptor || 10/11/2005 22:38 Comments || Top||


Europe
Suspect: Syrian Gave Bombers $50,000
A suspect in a bombing plot against Israeli ships in Turkey earlier gave $50,000 to people accused of carrying out a series of bombings in Istanbul that killed 60 people in 2003, according to testimony from a suspect submitted by prosecutors to a court, the Anatolia news agency said. Prosecutors in the trial of some 70 suspects in the 2003 bombings of two synagogues, the British Consulate and a London-based bank gave testimony from Burhan Kus, who was captured by U.S.-led forces during fighting in Iraq.

Under interrogation by Turkish security officers in his prison cell in Iraq, Kus reportedly said that Louai Sakka, a Syrian accused of planning to ram a boatload of explosives into a ship carrying Israeli tourists, gave the alleged Istanbul bombers $50,000 before the attacks and stood cheering with key suspects as they later watched news of the bombings on television, Anatolia said. Kus, who has been indicted in Turkey on suspicion that he helped build the truck bombs for the 2003 attacks, reportedly fled to Syria beforehand. It was from there that he watched the key suspects Habib Akdas and Sakka cheer about the bombings, Anatolia reported.

Police have said they believe Sakka acted as a contact between al-Qaida and the extremists responsible for the 2003 bombings, and Kus' testimony further supports allegations of that link. Turkey has asked Iraq to extradite Kus to face trial for the November 2003 blasts.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Al-Qaeda Suspect ‘Upset’ by 2003 Istanbul Bombs
A Turkish Al-Qaeda suspect held by US forces in Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison said in a statement read out in court yesterday he was saddened by a series of Istanbul suicide bombings that killed scores of people in 2003. A Turkish cell of Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda network claimed responsibility for the truck bomb attacks in November 2003 on two synagogues, the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC Bank and the British consulate.

The Istanbul court is hearing charges against 71 suspected Islamist militants in connection with the attacks which killed 61 people, including the bombers, and wounded hundreds more. Burhan Kus said he had traveled to Syria before the bombings on orders from Syrian suspected militant Luia Sakra, known as Abu Mohammed, and Habip Akdas, a Turkish associate. “When we got to Abu Mohammed’s house, Habip Akdas was watching television intensely,” Kus said in the statement obtained by Turkish investigators who had visited him in jail to take testimonies. “When they saw the news of the explosions in Istanbul, Akdas and Abu Mohammed cheered ‘God is great’. I thought this sort of attack was going to be carried out against US or Israeli forces, I was very saddened it was done in Turkey,” said the statement quoted by the CNN Turk Web site.

Security sources have said Sakra, a bomb-making expert, is the top figure in Osama’s Al-Qaeda network in Turkey. Turkish police captured him in August and a court charged him with a plot to bomb Israeli tourists. Turkish media, quoting security sources, have said he had secured financing for the Istanbul attacks and received orders from Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, Al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq. Habip Akdas is believed to have been killed fighting US forces in Iraq. Turkey has asked Iraq to extradite Kus and Habip’s brother, Sadettin Akdas, to face charges in connection with the bombings.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al-Qaeda Suspect ‘Upset’ by 2003 Istanbul Bombs

A Turkish Al-Qaeda suspect held by US forces in Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison said in a statement read out in court yesterday he was saddened by a series of Istanbul suicide bombings that killed scores of people in 2003.

You couldn't pay enough me to give a shit about these bastards.

Round up all the Muzzy splodydopes, financers & handlers, then harvest all their organs and bank 'em, for the the surviving victims and future victims everywhere who need them.

I insist that the asshatis should be completely harvested without anesthetics.....and then killed slowly, according the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd be 'upset' too if I had Turkish interro-gators 'questioning' me with pliers and thumbscrews.
Posted by: 2b || 10/11/2005 5:29 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought this sort of attack was going to be carried out against US or Israeli forces, I was very saddened it was done in Turkey He would have been fine with the collateral deaths if the attack had been in Iraq or Israel. Poor man is learning all about that lay down with dogs, rise up with fleas thingy.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2005 8:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Wow...it breaks my heart to hear that he was "saddened" that he took the lives of innocent women and children. (violins, please).
Posted by: anymouse || 10/11/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah, maybe his being "saddened" will allow him to escape being hung. Instead, he should be dumped into a 4'x4'x4' hole and allowed to starve to death "peacefully".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/11/2005 13:47 Comments || Top||


Official Links French Terror Cell, al-Qaida
A French terror cell suspected of plotting attacks on the subway and other targets in Paris had indirect contacts with Iraq's al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a leading French counterterrorism official said Monday. Christophe Chaboud, head of the counterterrorism unit of the national police, also told The Associated Press that a member of the cell returned to France from Lebanon with a substance that some experts say can be used in bomb-making. "There were in effect contacts between the group and al-Zarqawi," Chaboud said in an interview, referring to the French group known as "Ansar al-Fath" — or Partisans of Victory. He said the contacts were "indirect" — through intermediaries.

Chaboud said one of the members of the alleged cell built around Safe Bourada — a previously convicted Islamic militant arrested again in France last month — had returned home from Lebanon with black cumin, a substance that has been identified in the past as an explosives ingredient. He did not elaborate and did not name the person.
Black cumin's a new one on me. I thought it was a seasoning.
Another police official said a second suspected cell member, Kaci Ouarab, returned from Lebanon in early 2005 after a few months of training in weapons and explosives, and possibly, ways of detonating bombs by using mobile phones. Ouarab left for Lebanon either in late 2004 or early 2005, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because his agency does not allow him or the agency to be identified by name.
I wonder if his practical exercises took place in and around Beirut?
Bourada, 35, and five suspected accomplices have been placed under investigation — one step short of formal charges — in the past two weeks and jailed for suspected criminal association with a terror group in the case. The group was suspected of plotting attacks against the Paris subway, the headquarters of French counterintelligence service DST and an airport in the capital, Chaboud said.

Bourada was among 36 Islamic militants sentenced in February 1998 for providing support for bomb attacks that terrorized France in 1995. He received a maximum 10-year sentence, but won early release in 2003. Police say he had been under surveillance ever since. The issue of black cumin cropped up at a trial in absentia of al-Zarqawi, three other fugitives and nine men in custody in Jordan in June. An explosives expert testified that when mixed with other chemicals, black cumin can be used to cause explosions with more force than TNT. Other experts, however, said black cumin also can also be used for benign purposes.
Like making soup.
Chaboud did not say whether French experts believe that black cumin has explosive properties.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Black Cumin (Scientific name: Bunium persicum [Boiss.] B. Fedtsch.; Persian: , Zireh-kuhi; Hebrew:; Arabic: , literally seeds of blessing) is a spice that grows wild in Iran and the Mediterranean region. Sometimes called Nigella or love-in-a-mist, it is unrelated to common cumin (Cuminum Cyminum).
Nigella is an annual herbaceous plant that grows to about a foot high. It has a thin stem, laciniate leaflets, and distinctive black-spotted, blue flowers. The "seeds" used as a spice are found in the follicles on the flowers. The plant often grows as a weed.
Black cumin has a pungent bitter taste and a faint smell of strawberries. It is used primarilly in candies and liquors. In herbal medicine, black cumin has hypertensive, carminative, and anthelminthic properties.


I suspect it's use in explosives is a islamic urban myth.
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2005 8:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Could it be one of the perfumes they need to enter paradise?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/11/2005 20:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
New York subway threat a hoax: reports
The subway terrorist threat that gripped New York last weekend was a hoax stemming from false intelligence provided by a normally reliable informant, US law enforcement officials were quoted as saying. According to newspaper and television reports, the unidentified officials said the informant -- believed to be from Pakistan -- had admitted leading investigators astray about a plot to bomb the New York subway system.

The threat, which was unusually specific as to time and place, was taken very seriously by city officials who issued a high alert and flooded the subway network with extra police and National Guard troops.

The informant had fingered three men in Iraq as being behind the plot, but their subsequent capture and interrogation revealed no links to any plan or any known terrorist group, CNN quoted law enforcement sources as saying. He also admitted to fabricating a story about another individual who had made his way into the United States to help lay the ground for the alleged bomb plot.

"The threat has washed out," the New York Post quoted a senior law enforcement source as saying. "If there was something going on, it was disrupted."

News that the threat was based on bogus information will increase the pressure on New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his police commissioner, Ray Kelly, who have already been criticised for overreacting.
Not from Rantburg: he did exactly the right thing.
From the beginning, there was some discrepancy over the nature of the threat, with the Bloomberg administration underlining its seriousness even as federal officials questioned its credibility.

Bloomberg, who is seeking a second term in mayoral elections next month, told reporters on Monday that he had no regrets about his decision to inform the public and ramp up security. "We're going to take every single threat that has any chance of being credible seriously and do exactly what we did," he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2005 15:30 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This was far more specific information than the memo which the loons use to claim "Bush knew".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/11/2005 15:51 Comments || Top||

#2  A very good practice for the real thing. But I do hope the informant's interrogators beat him thoroughly for his deceit. Billing him for the cost of patrolling NYC doesn't seem out of line, either. Not to mention recompense for those Iraqis he falsely named.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2005 15:58 Comments || Top||

#3  A very good practice for the real thing.

Unfortunately, I think the exact opposite is true and underscores the double-edged nature of warning the public about terrorist threats.

Post enough false alarms and everyone begins to tune out all the warnings.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 10/11/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#4  With fresh memory of 9/11, New Yorkers are not going to be less inclined to heed such warnings and take precautions.

But, obviously this disinformation campaign achieved its objective: terrorize even when there is no "real" treat. I suspect this is only the beginning of this dance.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/11/2005 16:41 Comments || Top||

#5  It also gives terrorists the chance to see what the reaction ot a real threat would be. Nonetheless, it's what ya gotta do.
Posted by: Omotle Wheath4589 || 10/11/2005 17:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, yeah, we know - its all Dubya's fault, the fault of GOP-led defective national Fascism/Fascist Socialism, the fault of Federalism and Capitalism, the pro-America anti-Sociaist/OWG wing of the Demmies, and the of course the Federal level of Gummint and only the Federal level of Gummint. The Fed and only the Fed must expand expand expand, tax tax tax, and spend spend spend, where ala AL SHARPTONISM Repubs, Conservatives and non-African American minorities/ethnic groups can work for their wealth and livelihood BUT NOLA'S=AMERICA'S BLACK AND POOR HAVE THE ABSOLUTE AND UNDENIABLE RIGHT AND PRIVELEGE TO STAY POOR AND PERMANENTLY SUBSISTING ON PUBLIC GOVT. WELFARE - EEEEERRRRRRR, SOMEBODY ELSE'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS: you know, Lefty Universal EQUALISM and "PROGRESSIVE"!? HUMILIATE AND IMPEACH DUBYA AND HIS ADMIN. NOW, D*** YOU, for having the unmitigated gall to tell Clintonian Amerika's sacred Communist-LeftSocie Heartland and pro-OWG Mainstream that Americans work for a living!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2005 22:38 Comments || Top||

#7  I agree I hate them too. What to do ???
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:46 Comments || Top||

#8  History has shown efficient ways for dealing with the left...perhaps they should be brought back.
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:48 Comments || Top||


Another Apparent suicide victim identified
SAN DIEGO - A man who fatally shot himself in his University City condominium during a standoff with San Diego police was identified Saturday as a 29-year-old student.
Bob? Ted? Jose?
An autopsy is scheduled tomorrow on the body of Khaled Yasufi, medical examiner Investigator Sal Rodriguez said.
That was last Sunday, not one other word to be found on Khaled after they found the lab
Police were sent to the 8700 block of Costa Verde Boulevard after someone reported a strong odor coming from a condo about 1 p.m. Friday, SDPD Sgt. Jim Schorr said. A man in the condo told officers everything was fine and shut the door, Schorr said. Within a couple of minutes, a gunshot was heard, prompting police to clear the building, Schorr said.

Police eventually sent in a camera-equipped robot, which transmitted images of a body in the unit. When officers made entry after a standoff of about six hours, a chemical lab was found in the bathroom of the condo, police said. Rodriguez said he did not know where Yasufi went to school.
Well, I suppose it could be a meth lab.....
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2005 13:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why'd they send in a 'bot?

They suspected a bomb factory, that's why.

Why isn't more getting out about this story?

They suspected a bomb factory, that's why.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/11/2005 15:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, they'd probably want to send a robot in for a meth lab, too, wouldn't they?
Posted by: Rory B. Bellows || 10/11/2005 15:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Suicide? It will be interesting to see where the bullet entry wound is.

So how many were there last weekend? UCLA, GaTech, UCLA, OU. They really sent in the second string for the great Ramadan offensive.
Posted by: Clereper Chavirt5857 || 10/11/2005 15:26 Comments || Top||

#4  It will be interesting to see where the bullet entry wound is.

And how many.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2005 15:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe it was a crossfirecide?
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#6  These bungled chemistry experiments by college students show the effect of the cuts the Bush Administration has made in higher education spending.
Posted by: John Kerry || 10/11/2005 16:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Nah. They reflect the watering down of academic standards under liberal political correctness.
Posted by: No Child Left Behind || 10/11/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#8  meth lab, I'm sure
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 16:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Cooking up some Crank is my guess.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 17:01 Comments || Top||


Guantanamo detainee says guards enjoyed torture
An Egyptian man released this month from U.S. detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba has said the "torture" he suffered in the military camp left him a cripple in a wheelchair. "They used to grab me by the arms and then hurl me on the floor, on my back. They took pleasure in torturing us," Sami al-Leithy, 49, told Egyptian television on Sunday night. "I have suffered a fracture in my backbone because of this," he said as he sat in a wheelchair wearing a beige djellabah robe.

Leithy was held four years in the U.S.-run jail at Guantanamo before his release and handover to the Egyptian authorities in early October. "Before my detention I used to play football and I was in good health," he said, showing medical certificates attesting to his present condition. Leithy charged that his interrogators "used to point a harsh light at us during questioning and would beat anyone who tried to close his eyes."

"They would ask our opinion on U.S. policies and would hit violently those who were against it or push their heads down on the floor with their boots," he added. But Leithy said he was never witness to alleged reports that guards at Guantanamo desecrated the Koran, saying he "rarely left his cell."

According to him, cells in Guantanamo are categorized "A" to "D," with the best ones given to those who cooperated with the authorities. Prisoners held in "A" cells "had three meals a day, two blankets, a toothbrush, toothpaste and soap. These perks diminished until they disappeared in the worst cells, the 'D,'" he said.

Leithy recalled how he left Egypt at the age of 19 to study in Pakistan, where his brother-in-law, a professor at the Al-Azhar Islamic University, was teaching. He graduated in 1986 from the University of Islamabad and worked for 10 years in Pakistan. Unable to renew his passport at the Egyptian Embassy in Pakistan he headed for Kabul to seek a new one. He taught at the University of Kabul and was wounded in U.S. bombardment of the city in 2001. He was hospitalized in the border town of Khosht and tried to escape when the city also came under U.S. attack but was arrested by the Pakistani Army and handed over to the Americans who in turn took him to Guantanamo. "In 2004 I was finally brought before a U.S. military court ... During the hearing, they refused to remove the shackles I had on my wrists and my feet and told me I was arrested with 15 other Arabs for having considered to fight the American Army." he said. In May he was told he was innocent but kept in detention until his release in October. Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Abu al-Gheit said that four Egyptians are still held in Guantanamo.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, al-Leithy's lips did fall off, but that was afterwards, when he started claiming this BS.
Posted by: Korora || 10/11/2005 0:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't worry, McCain's got the answer. It's all in that book of magic treatment codes.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/11/2005 2:27 Comments || Top||

#3  And Daniel Pearl had no comment at all.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 10/11/2005 6:12 Comments || Top||

#4  I haven't seen a Guantanamo torture story in, what, two months? Losing your touch, guys?
Posted by: Raj || 10/11/2005 9:38 Comments || Top||

#5  "They used to grab me by the arms and then hurl me on the floor, on my back. They took pleasure in torturing us," Sami al-Leithy, 49, told Egyptian television on Sunday night. "I have suffered a fracture in my backbone because of this," he said as he sat in a wheelchair wearing a beige djellabah robe.

How come I have a mental picture of an ambulance chasing attorney "consulting" him to wear a neck brace on the way into the courtroom?
Posted by: BA || 10/11/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Fuck this guy and while were at it FUCK MCCAIN TOO! You would think that somebody who was a victim of stupid Washington rules might think twice before restricting our military. That "Anti-Torture" bill is nothing more than a knee-jerk liberal action to made up stories of rampant torture (like this one). His story sounds like the other jihadists: "I was on my way to the local _____ to get a _____ when the evil Americans struck and yada yada yada I ended up in Gitmo." Must be part of the training. Funny that Sami can't name names or describe who tortured him, that would have made the story more plausible. Note to McCain: DON'T BOTHER RUNNING!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/11/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm just sorry they let him out. I used to stop by two or three times a week to slap him around.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 11:56 Comments || Top||

#8  A win-win, by my accounting.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 11:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Um, you don't have a dog, do you Fred? I mean, now that you don't have Leithy to whack around anymore...
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 12:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Nope. No dog. Jihadis are better, since they're at Gitmo and hence can't poop on my carpet.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#11  My guess is this guy sung like a bird and he's concocting this torture story to keep from being 'offed'.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/11/2005 14:52 Comments || Top||

#12  If I supported groups that like flying fully loaded airliners into occupied skyscrapers, I'd feel pretty fortunate to get off as lightly as Sami did. I'm additionally amazed that Sami even possessed a spine for them to fracture.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#13  Or he didn't sing, but his guards spread falsehoods about him, the poor darling.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2005 16:03 Comments || Top||


Iraq
The Mortar War in Iraq
October 11, 2005: The war against terrorist mortar teams in Iraq continues. U.S. and Coalition troops have been very successful in using technologies that net radars, computers, and weapons to permit rapid concentration of artillery fire on the site from which incoming mortar rounds originated. When attackers fire a round, the radars quickly detect it, feed the incoming data to a computer that quickly calculates the trajectory and point of origin, which is then used as an aim point by friendly troops. As a result, within seconds of firing a mortar shell, the location of the mortar gets hit by artillery fire. For a while, these tactics reduced the rate of mortar attacks, since they placed the attackers at considerable risk. There are, however, some terrorists who have come up with new tactics to counter the Coalition capabilities.

The most common technique is to “shoot and scoot.” That is, after setting up their weapon, most of the insurgent mortar crew depart, leaving just one man behind. When they are clear, that man drops the round down the barrel and runs like hell. As it takes a few second for the radar-computer-gunner loop to close, the mortarman has a fair chance of escaping. Even if he doesn’t escape, the loss of one “martyr” is better than the loss of the entire mortar team (particularly since dropping the round down the tube is the least skillful part of operating a mortar, and so a low value volunteer can be used for the task). In fact, the loss of the mortar is perhaps more serious.

A second technique is to coordinate two mortar attacks. Several Coalition soldiers have been killed or injured as a result of such coordinated attacks. Basically, the terrorists set up two more mortars to fire at the same target. When the first one is fired – presumably by the “shoot and scoot” technique – Coalition response is prompt, and the weapon is obliterated. The other mortar holds fire. As Coalition respond to aid the injured and clear the rubble, the second mortar is brought into play. Although the use of only two mortars in this fashion has been reported, it would seem reasonable that some really ambitious terrorists could try to coordinate three or even more, though as the number of personnel involved grows, the chance of their being detected by Coalition troops presumably increases considerably.

A third terrorist technique seems improbable, but its use has been rumored. This is probably an urban legend, but it does contain a grain of reality. Reportedly, the terrorists place the mortar round in a mold of the appropriate caliber. The round is then frozen, presumably in such as way that the base and arming pin are exposed. The round can be transported in an ice chest. When needed, the base of the round can be fitted into the muzzle of the mortar tube. The arming pin can then be pulled. With its “jacket” of ice, the round will not slide down the tube immediately. This allows the mortar team to get away. Naturally, in Iraq’s heat, the ice will soon melt. This allows the round to drop down the tube, and it will fire. Coalition response will destroy the mortar, but none of the Insurgents will be hurt.

There seem to be several problems with this reported technique. Perhaps the most serious is that the ice will not melt uniformly, so rather than sliding down the tube with force sufficient to fire the round, it will just slip down so slowly that it may not go off. The story persists, as such fanciful tales tend to do during war time.
Sounds like a job for MythBusters!
Posted by: Steve || 10/11/2005 08:57 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Terrorist #1: "Remember, kids, don't try this at home." Terrorist #2, nodding sagely, "Yeah, we're prof "
Posted by: Curt Simon || 10/11/2005 9:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Terrorist #3: "Here, hold my beer."
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 9:30 Comments || Top||

#3  So the mortar team doesn't become a martyr team? Hmmm.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/11/2005 10:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Not clear. Is the second team firing at the first teams spot or at rescuers at the first target?

Also, how will they adapt it to this:
Shooting down bullets and mortars
Posted by: 3dc || 10/11/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#5  VC/NVA fired rockets with fuses all the time. lite and scoot. area accuracy depending, not point.
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 14:39 Comments || Top||

#6  ...The ice story is fun - will make a great scene in a movie someday - but think about this for a second. Although the ice will melt quickly, it will NOT suddenly vanish. The result is that the round will slowly slide down the barrel, not suddenly drop.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/11/2005 19:39 Comments || Top||

#7  NOt exactly the Indian Chief in the MYSTIC WARRIOR video, sticking his spear into the ground, yelling his name and and taunting/demanding enemy warriors to kill him mano-a-mano. The Raddies have no prob shooting women in the back of the head ala "honor" killings, but "honor" doesn't extend to males engaging in no-name shoot-and-scoot: goes to prove that Radical Islam is more about political victory than justifying [Radical]Islam, i.e. young idealist warriors/youths dying and old men talking BUT NOT SOLVING ANYTHING.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2005 22:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Perhaps we should forget about mortars and just carpet /fire bomb the friggin bastards like we did in Dresden. Killed thousands. If we are lucky maybe we could kill more. These losers in Iraq don't amount to as much.....its more human than just nuking the entire place.
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Witt - your plan is good except for one minor detail - MOST OF IRAQ IS OPPOSED TO THE TERRORISTS!! Remind me not to be within 100 miles of you when you go deer hunting.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/11/2005 23:09 Comments || Top||


Vote Tampering: Bombers kill 37
Mosul - At least 37 people were killed and 49 wounded on Tuesday in two suicide car bomb attacks near the northern city of Mosul and in Baghdad, security sources said.

"Thirty people were killed and 45 others wounded," when a suicide car bomb ripped through a crowded market in the restive northwestern Iraqi town of Tal Afar, police chief General Najrm Abdallah said.

The blast came just four days before Iraqis are due to vote on Saturday on a new constitution which aims to turn another page in the country's political transition post-Saddam Hussein.

In another attack in the capital, five soldiers and two civilians were killed and four others wounded when a suicide car bomber smashed into an army checkpoint in the western neighbourhood of Al-Amariyah, a defence ministry source said.

The Tal Afar bombing comes almost a month after United States and Iraqi forces wrapped up an operation aimed at clearing the town of insurgents ahead of Saturday's referendum which Sunni-led rebels have vowed to disrupt.

On September 28, five people were killed when a woman suicide bomber blew herself up at a police recruitment centre at Tal Afar, which lies between the main northern city of Mosul and the Syrian border.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 08:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zarqawi just answered the Zawahiri letter.
Posted by: Grins Sluper5274 || 10/11/2005 9:38 Comments || Top||

#2  One of the things the MSM doesn't report about is the revenge killings by Shia of Sunni that occur after these suicide bombs.

In a way, I'm glad the MSM is too stupid to pick up on this but on the other hand it would be nice to know because the coming referendum is partly about whether the Sunni are more afraid of the Shia para forces or of Al Q.
Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2005 12:16 Comments || Top||


Zark sez Tater ain't a priority
Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has issued a new fatwa clarifying his position on the different Iraqi Shiite groups, in which he specifies that he considers the followers of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr "apostates". However, he says that "at the moment they are not to be considered a priority target."

The new proclamation follows previous fatwas from al-Zarqawi's group, first declaring war on Shiites, then specifying that three groups, including al-Sadr's, were excluded from the decree.

The mixed messages prompted one contributor to an Islamic Internet forum to write: "When I saw the al-Qaeda statement which differentiated the al-Sadr group from other Shiite movements of the Jihad, I thought that maybe al-Sadr's followers were excluded because they were not considered apostates."

The al-Qaeda follower claims to have put the question directly to al-Zarqawi, who clarified the issue. "Even al-Sadr's people, like all Shiites, are considered apostates and therefore opponents," the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq explains. "The difference between them and the others is that our group does not consider them priority enemies in light of the current situation in the field."

Al-Sadr militants are said to have helped al-Qaeda during the US-led military offensive in the rebel stronghold of Fallujah last year and it is because of this that al-Zarqawi's group appears to have decided to strike only the followers of the Badr brigades and other pro-government groups. "Even the Prophet Muhammad behaved this way," al-Zarqawi explains. "During his life he fought first his greatest enemies and then the lesser ones."

In addition to the militants of al-Sadr's 'Mahdi Army', al-Zarqawi has called on his people not to kill followers of the Shiite movements of Jawad al-Khalsi and Ayatollah al-Baghdadi.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:29 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Two questions:

Is this new attitude the result of Zawahiri's spanking?

And how long before Tater throws a temper tantrun to get some attention?
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 2:30 Comments || Top||

#2  What is up with the Fatwa? Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is not a religious authority, he can't issue Fatwas. He is a joke and a loser alenists with brains know this. They are pointing and laughing at him.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 7:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Sock

True he is not a religious authority. Neither is Bin Laden. Neither is Moqtada.

However, both Zarqawi and Bin Laden have lots of influence. Zarqawi may even have more than Bin Laden outside Iraq (possibly because he is alive).

It will be amusing to hear Moqtada's response to Zarqawi since the way Zarqawi phrased it is basically a put-down.
Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2005 8:01 Comments || Top||

#4  In this religion, is everyone allowed to fatwa? After all, Zarqawi is'nt a Mullah.
I fatwa that I can drink and get a lapdance while I observe the infidels.
Posted by: plainslow || 10/11/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#5  At Rantburg you have to go through our house imam, Al-Aska Paul. However, it's a fair guess that you'll be able to enjoy that lapdance.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 8:53 Comments || Top||

#6  geez folks...I issue a Fatwa a day, just to keep in practice! ANYONE can do it...and it's kinda fun! I issued one the other day declaring myself Ruler of Tahiti! I can't wait to visit...knowing that my loyal subjects (especially the bare-breasted native girls) will be anxious to please me!

Today I'm issuing a Fatwa to United Airlines to transport me there!
Posted by: Justrand || 10/11/2005 12:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Sadr's demise may have fallen in priority for Zark, but I can only hope our side still wants this maggot to take the dirt nap ASAP. Sadr's continuing consumption of oxygen is a stain on the memory of those who were murdered on the bridge.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2005 13:40 Comments || Top||

#8  My wife called me a fatwa but I don't think that means she'll obey me.
Posted by: Slavins Wholuck4434 || 10/11/2005 13:46 Comments || Top||

#9  Are you Italian? Does your wire have a lisp?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/11/2005 16:05 Comments || Top||

#10  LOL! wire indeedy. Wife.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/11/2005 16:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Wonder if this will piss tatter off.Being called secound string is insulting to an aspireing Caliph.
Posted by: raptor || 10/11/2005 22:43 Comments || Top||

#12  Raptor - here's hoping!! Stand by with the popcorn
Posted by: DMFD || 10/11/2005 23:11 Comments || Top||

#13  Meanwhile, Bush is delivering the Iranian pigs a Hizbollah Corridor from Teheran to Jerusalem, at a cost to US taxpayers of $340,000,000,000 ad nauseum.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008504.php#comments

Don't Deny: that is an order!
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 10/11/2005 23:26 Comments || Top||


Hard boyz kill 18 in Iraq
Insurgents launched a new salvo of attacks five days ahead of a crucial constitutional referendum, killing at least 18 Iraqis and a U.S. soldier Monday with suicide car bombs, roadside explosives and drive-by shootings, police said.

Five mortar shells were fired at a hotel in the southern city of Hillah where a U.S. regional embassy office is based, with one round hitting the building and leaving a large hole in a wall, police said. No casualties were reported.

Gunmen also opened fire on a convoy of cars carrying members of an Arab League delegation that is visiting Iraq, but no one was hurt, police said.

The attacks came as Shiite and Kurdish officials continued to negotiate with Sunni Arab leaders over last-minute additions to the constitution, trying to win Sunni support ahead of Saturday's referendum. U.S. officials were acting as mediators.

But the sides appeared to remain far apart over basic issues – including the federalism that Shiites and Kurds insist on – and copies of the draft constitution already are being distributed to the public across the country.

U.S. and Iraqi officials see the referendum as an important step in the country's democratic reforms and the eventual withdrawal of U.S.-led coalition forces.

But many minority Sunnis plan to vote "no," fearing the document would create two oil-rich and nearly autonomous regions – a Kurdish one in the north and a Shiite one in the south – and leave most Sunnis isolated in central and western Iraq.

That was clear in the northern city of Mosul on Monday when about 600 Sunni politicians, tribal leaders and clerics met and urged Iraqis to reject the constitution, saying it would partition the country along secular lines. "Our rejection of the constitution is motivated by our desire for a united Iraq, not because we are Sunnis," they said in a statement.

Sunni-led insurgent groups have demanded a boycott in the vote and were launching attacks across the country, killing hundreds of Iraqis in the last two weeks.

Sunnis can defeat the charter if they get a two-thirds "no" vote in any three of Iraq's 18 provinces – and they have the potential to make that threshold in four provinces. But turnout is key, since they must outweigh Shiite and Kurdish populations in some of those areas.

On Sunday, militants killed 13 Iraqis, including a Shiite teacher who was dragged out of his classroom and shot to death at a college in the town of Samarra, north of Baghdad.

In the last 15 days, at least 338 people have been killed across Iraq, including nine American soldiers who died in a series of offensives the U.S. military has been waging in western Iraq to try to knock al-Qaeda militants and other insurgents off balance and prevent attacks during the referendum on the constitution.

In Monday's worst attack, a suicide car bomb exploded near a U.S.-Iraqi checkpoint leading into the highly fortified Green Zone, where Iraq's parliament and the U.S. Embassy are located. The blast killed a U.S. soldier, three Iraqi policemen and three civilians, U.S. and Iraqi officials said.

Teacher Riyadh Qassim heard the blast from his nearby elementary school.

"A car bomb exploded. We ran out of school and saw two cars engulfed in flames, one of them a police car. Some of the policemen were in a panic," he said in an interview with Associated Press Television News.

At least two other suicide attackers detonated car bombs within an hour of the lethal attack, wounding four Iraqi policemen, police said. At about the same time, a suicide car bomb went off in Khaldiyah, about 75 miles west of Baghdad, but there were no immediate reports of casualties.

Four policemen were also killed in shootings in Baghdad.

In Kirkuk, a city 180 miles north of the capital, four Iraqi soldiers were killed in two separate roadside bomb attacks, police said. Farther to the north, two Sunni Arab political leaders, an Iraqi soldier and an Iraqi policeman died in separate drive-by shootings in Mosul, officials said.

In the attack on the 10-member Arab League delegation, gunmen in four vehicles pulled alongside the diplomats' cars on a highway in Baghdad and started shooting, said police Maj. Mousa Abdul-Karem. The convoy was driving toward a western neighborhood of Baghdad for a meeting with the Muslim Scholars Association, an Arab Sunni Muslim group.

The delegation arrived last weekend to lay the groundwork for an Iraqi "reconciliation conference" it hopes to hold after the referendum. It was the first time the pan-Arab organization has tried to take a direct role in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

It was not immediately clear who launched the attack.

In cities, towns and villages across Iraq, 5 million copies of the official text of the constitution were being distributed to voters to consider before the polls.

But all sides were still debating last-minute changes in a bid to swing some Sunnis to a "yes" vote. Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani continued to meet Monday with Sunni Arab leaders to try to convince them about the changes, officials from all sides said.

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad "has a central role in the talks," said Kurdish legislator Mahmoud Othman, but he would not say if the envoy was actually attending the meetings. U.S. officials could not be reached for comment, but have confirmed in recent weeks that Khalilzad was involved in discussions over last-minute "tweaks" to the charter.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:25 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Danish troops in Iraq have been involved in more battles than the public is aware of
Military leaders have maintained radio silence about five major gun battles involving Danish forces in Iraq. Five episodes classified by the military as 'serious incidents' have not been made public. The incidents were finally made public on Sunday by regional daily JydskeVestkysten, which had obtained military reports about the clashes through freedom of information requests.

According to Major Kim GrÃŒnberger, press liaison for the Army Operational Command, the information had not been withheld as a way to hide what had happened. In four of the incidents, it could not be determined whether any Iraqis had been wounded in the exchanges. In the fifth, an incident from 2003 in which an unarmed black marketer was wounded when Danish forces shot after his car, GrÃŒnberger decided that because the Iraqi had only been lightly wounded, there was no cause to issue a press release informing of the incident.

GrÃŒnberger said that the he had also taken the soldiers' families into account when deciding not to publicise the incidents. 'Especially in the early stages of the conflict, we were very nervous about telling the public and families about fire fights, because it could have gotten them to react negatively,' said GrÃŒnberger. 'We definitely took that into consideration.'
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Of course, nobody raises their eyebrows that "Bjorn Jorgensen from Hoboken" wears a US Army uniform when he goes hunting, er, on patrol in el Anbar with several other soldiers who seem to be on some kind of unspecified but extended TDY that invariably takes them to some unwholesome places repeatedly, always carrying the most interesting looking thingys.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/11/2005 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  ... five major gun battles involving Danish forces in Iraq.

This has got to be close to making them the most battle hardened troops on the continent, at least west of the former Iron Curtain.
Posted by: AzCat || 10/11/2005 7:23 Comments || Top||

#3  taken the soldiers' families into account when deciding not to publicise the incidents

Translation: The danish gov't is worried sick about the reaction of their domestic Jihadis, and worried about domestic attacks by said Jihadis on families of danes stationed in Iraq.

Posted by: N Guard || 10/11/2005 8:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Or the Danish gov't is worried about stirring up images of Berzerkers carrying battleaxes!

Go Danes!
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 9:06 Comments || Top||

#5  The danish toast "SkÃ¥l" (pronounced skoal) goes back to when they would drink whatever it is that Danes drink out of their defeated enemies' upturned skulls.

Skål, friend Danes!
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/11/2005 9:36 Comments || Top||

#6  The Danes have been great throughout this whole thing. They're a small country but have been in Afghanistan and Iraq with us from the get go. I'm sure their public could handle the news and their PM has survived despite being more pro-American than the polls indicate is politically prudent. Interesting the article is concerned about whether any Iraqis were killed or wounded. Concerned about Danish marksmanship I'm sure.
Posted by: JAB || 10/11/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#7  So are the Danes going to invade France?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/11/2005 11:42 Comments || Top||

#8  CS,that begs the question"What the hell for?"
Posted by: raptor || 10/11/2005 13:40 Comments || Top||

#9  I thought it was short for "Ya, sure, Nils! 'SkÃ¥l outside, ain't it?"
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 13:54 Comments || Top||

#10  I thought it was short for "Ya, sure, Nils! 'SkÃ¥l outside, ain't it?"

groan³

[*ahem* very low voice]
Skål, brother.
Posted by: Earl Campbell || 10/11/2005 14:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Tough house today, Fred. Really tough, heh.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 14:10 Comments || Top||

#12  well you can count on vikings to fight well
Posted by: Viking || 10/11/2005 15:23 Comments || Top||

#13  SkÃ¥l means bowl. Skull is skalle. If there is a common origin between SkÃ¥l and skalle I don't know, but I imagine there is.
Posted by: AK || 10/11/2005 15:24 Comments || Top||

#14  Winston Churchill declared the WWII Danish resistance to be "a model for all countries, great or small." Read up on their work sometime.

Danes were forced to perform assembly and construction work for the Nazis. While building machine gun pill-boxes, they would pour sugar into the cement to prevent it from crystallizing properly. Imagine sacrificing such a rare wartime commodity as sugar in order to commit sabotage. An act often rewarded with random reprisal killings.

My mother's family actively engaged in defying the Nazis. Personally, I cannot imagine a better thumb in the eye to Hitler than having a nation of his adored blond haired and blue eyed aryan people collectively telling Adolph to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Interesting note; Denmark was the only Nazi occupied country allowed to fly its own flag.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/11/2005 15:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Related
Danish PM faces Iraq war lawsuit
Posted by: tipper || 10/11/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Had the opportunity to work with the Royal Danish AF back in the 80's. Aggressive, innovative, absolutely fearless pilots. Glad the Danes are on our side.
Posted by: RWV || 10/11/2005 19:51 Comments || Top||

#17  The Danes have been wonderful allies (and so are the Norwegians). The Nors were probably our best, unsung allies during WWII.

Since then, in the heady 90's DOD climate, we've screwed them several times on defense equipment contract deals (i.e., the USN Penguin anti-ship missile buys (reverse FMS), and more). We never learn. But we're still cool!
Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation (astri from now on) || 10/11/2005 20:27 Comments || Top||

#18  Why is that guy so horny?
Posted by: Captain America || 10/11/2005 22:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Can't remeber wich country,during WW2(started by the King)sewed yellow stars on thier clothes to protect Jews from the Nazis.That is what I call an Honorable people.
Posted by: raptor || 10/11/2005 22:49 Comments || Top||


Car bomb kills child in Basra
A car bomb exploded outside a building housing members of a Shi'ite militia associated with the Iraqi government on Sunday, killing a child, police and witnesses said. The early morning blast also wounded six people in the southern city of Basra, a hospital source said. The explosion left a large crater and damaged a building housing members of the Badr movement, which is linked to one of the main Shi'ite parties in the U.S.-backed-government.

The attack came as tensions rise among rival Shi'ite groups and political parties from across Iraq's volatile sectarian divide as they jockey for position ahead of December elections. The Iranian-trained Badr movement recently clashed with militiamen loyal to nationalist Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in several cities. Sunni Arabs once dominant under Saddam Hussein have accused the Badr movement of operating government-sanctioned hit squads against Sunnis, a charge denied by both Badr and the government.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Arab League Delegation Shot Up in Iraq
Gunmen opened fire Monday on a convoy of cars carrying members of an Arab League delegation that is visiting Iraq, but no one was hurt, police said. The gunmen, traveling in four vehicles, pulled alongside the convoy of the 10-member Arab League delegation on a highway in Baghdad and started shooting, said police Maj. Mousa Abdul-Karem. The convoy was driving toward a western neighborhood of Baghdad for a meeting with the Muslim Scholars Association, an Arab Sunni Muslim group.

The Arab League delegation arrived last weekend to lay the groundwork for an Iraqi "reconciliation conference" it hopes to hold after Saturday's constitutional referendum. It was the first time the pan-Arab organization has tried to take a direct role in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. It was not immediately clear who launched the attack, but Sunni-led insurgent groups have killed several hundred Iraqis in the last two weeks with drive-by shootings, suicide car bombs and roadside explosives aimed at wrecking the constitutional referendum. The Arab League also has gotten a cold reception from some Shiite leaders in Iraq's government who resent the organization's perceived inaction in response to Saddam Hussein's regime and the predominantly Sunni League's alleged bias in favor of Iraq's Sunni minority.

On Sunday, government spokesman Laith Kubba urged the group to improve its relations with Iraq by following the example of the United Nations and opening an office in Baghdad. But just before the delegation arrived, Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa reportedly issued a warning about the fighting in Iraq. "The situation is so tense there is a threat looming in the air about civil war that could erupt at any moment, although some people would say that it is already there," Moussa said in an interview with British Broadcasting Corp. radio.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey you reap what you sew. All that money you Arabs have been paying to wage Jihad has been out to good use. You are reaping the wonderful rewards of it.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 0:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Amen.
Posted by: r || 10/11/2005 0:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Amen. dittos
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 0:36 Comments || Top||

#4  All part of the AQ strategy to cut Iraq off from the rest of the world, and plunge it into civil war.
Posted by: gromky || 10/11/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Iraq is not an Arab majority. AQ has no natural base of support in Iraq. If anything AQ will get all the Sunni Arabs in Iraq killed, repressed and/or exiled.

It's a numbers game. There are not enough Arabs in Iraq to sustain a protracted insurgency and they are running out of Arabs to import. Even if AQ was able to drum up some kind of Arab backlash to teh Iraqi Arab comming serious and AQ and Bathist fostered problems in Iraq AQ doesn't have the depth to do anymore than the media over blown acts it's pulling of right now.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/11/2005 1:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Karma? Oh wait wrong religion, must be revenge.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/11/2005 10:52 Comments || Top||

#7  "Open random, ineffectual fire!"
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2005 13:59 Comments || Top||

#8  Gunmen opened fire Monday on a convoy of cars carrying members of an Arab League delegation that is visiting Iraq, but no one was hurt
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/11/2005 14:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Sock Puppet O´ Doom, change Arab to Sunni Arab and I'd agree with you 100%. As is you are wrong. The Shia in Iraq are Arabs (there are even some Shia Arabs in Iran although most Iranians are Persians), thus there is an Arab majority in Iraq.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/11/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#10  War among arabs sounds like a good thing. People are always complaining that the arab world didn't get it's version of the European Enlightenment. The arabs didn't get to particpate in the WW 1&2 either. Let 'em have their fun.
Posted by: Elmeamble Sneatle3802 || 10/11/2005 22:51 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Qatar will give $$ to Israeli Arab town for sports stadium

By Jack Khoury, Haaretz Correspondent, and the Associated Press

Qatar has become the first Arab country to donate money to a town inside Israel, giving $6 million (NIS 27.5 million) to an Israeli Arab town in northern Israel to build a sports stadium, officials said Tuesday.


[this is definitely on the I side of the green line and a lot of Jihadis are going to be very angry-- of course Qatar also forks over plenty to Al Jaz and probably supports various Jihadi fundraising efforts also]


Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2005 12:25 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  [this is definitely on the I side of the green line and a lot of Jihadis are going to be very angry-- of course Qatar also forks over plenty to Al Jaz and probably supports various Jihadi fundraising efforts also]

Why do you think they haven't been bombed yet???
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 10/11/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Armyguy

The Saudis also pay plenty of extortion money to jihadis and have gotten wacked for it. I think the Qatari interior ministry is more efficient than the Saudis at ferreting out anti-govt spies.
Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2005 14:13 Comments || Top||


First Hamas Female Bomb Maker Caught, Says Israel
Tel Aviv, 11 Oct. (AKI) - The Israeli military has detained a Gaza Strip woman suspected of being the first female bomb-maker employed by the militant Palestinian group Hamas, an Israeli newspaper has reported. Samar Sabih, 22, was sent by Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip to the West Bank to train new explosive experts, Tel Aviv daily Haaretz said on Tuesday. Sabih was among a number of suspected militants in recent Israeli military raids, the report said.

Hamas in Gaza is believed to have taught Sabih, a resident of the Strip's Jabalyah refugee camp, how to make bombs. A few months ago she submitted a request to the Israeli authorities, asking them to let her live in the West Bank town of Tul Karm so that she could marry her fiancé, who lived there. Israeli authorities granted her request because she had no record of security breaches.

When Sabih arrived in Tul Karm, she married her fiancé and allegedly contacted Hamas activists from Ramallah. Israeli secret services sources cited by Haaretz said that one of her "student bombmakers" was Ali Kadi, one of the organisation's members who later took part in the abduction and murder of an Israeli man, Sasson Nuriel. Sabih also allegedly trained her husband to prepare explosives, so that he could replace her in training others if she were caught, the sources said. Sabih and her husband were both arrested some two weeks ago.

This is the first time, as far as Israeli intelligence sources know, that Hamas used a woman bomb maker.
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#1  buh-bye Samar....a dark hole for the rest of your life
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 10:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Put pieces of her on a Gaza street.
Posted by: Bardo || 10/11/2005 12:39 Comments || Top||

#3  mebbe Israel oughta start honor killing
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/11/2005 12:53 Comments || Top||

#4  I recommend rehabilitation through animal husbandry. Her new roommates: Woofus and Oinker.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/11/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#5  woof Arf!
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Bali bombers moved to island 'Alcatraz'
INDONESIA has moved the three ringleaders of the 2002 Bali bombings on death-row because of security concerns at their prison in Denpasar.

The men were transferred in three armoured cars and guarded by about 30 heavily armed police.
Their move to a higher security jail came on the eve of the third anniversary of the October 12, 2002 bombings in which 202 people died, including 88 Australians.

So-called smiling assassin Amrozi bin Nurhasyin, Imam Samudra and Mukhlas – all awaiting execution – were moved this afternoon from Bali's Kerobokan Prison to Batu Prison on Nusakambangan, an island off the south Java coast, Bali justice ministry spokesman IG Rata said.

The high-security jail is home to former Indonesian dictator Suharto's son, Tommy, who is serving a 15-year sentence for masterminding the murder of a supreme court judge.

"They were moved for security reasons," Mr Rata said. He said the transfer order had come directly from Indonesian Justice Minister Hamid Awaluddin in Jakarta.

He said the letter arrived yesterday but the transfer had been planned for more than two months.
"The soil at Kerobokan and the walls are too fragile and the prison is too full," he said.

"There is only capacity for 338 prisoners there but there are now more than 800 in there."

Batu Prison, about 250km south-east of Jakarta, is known as Indonesia's "Alcatraz".

The jail is home to the country's most dangerous criminals.

The overcrowded Kerobokan Prison is where Australian convicted drug smuggler Schapelle Corby is serving her 20-year jail term. It also houses the so-called Bali Nine, whose trials for alleged drug trafficking began today in Denpasar.

Indonesian police have questioned the three death-row bombers over the recent triple suicide blasts in Kuta and Jimbaran, which killed 20 people including four Australians.

Yesterday more than 100 Balinese had staged an angry protest demanding the immediate execution of Amrozi and two other attack ringleaders who are on death row.

Protesters were expected to rally outside Kerobokan prison tomorrow to demand the immediate execution of the trio.
Posted by: Oztralian [AKA] God Save The World || 10/11/2005 04:46 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Indonesians arrest terror suspect
INDONESIAN police have made their first arrest over the October 1 Bali bombings.

A construction worker was arrested in the town of Jember in East Java on Sunday and was flown to Bali island the following day for questioning, national police deputy spokesman Sunarko Danu Ardanto said.
"The arrest was made under the terrorism act and police have seven days to detain him for questioning in relation to the bombings," Mr Ardanto said.

It was not clear whether the man is believed to have been directly involved in the attacks on crowded restaurants, which killed 20 people plus the three bombers.

Indo Pos newspaper said the arrested man is suspected to have shared a rented room on Bali with one of the three bombers.

Police have been struggling to identify the trio, believed to come from a new generation of radicals, despite publishing photos of their heads, which were severed by the blasts.

"This is a development following the questioning of witnesses," Mr Ardanto said, declining to say whether the man was arrested as a witness or a suspect.
He said police have so far questioned 259 witnesses.

Another national police spokesman, Bambang Kuncoro, said in Jakarta that a witness had told police that one of the suspected bombers resembled a man who rented a house in the Bali capital Denpasar.

"One of 11 witnesses... recognised one of the pictures distributed by the police as very similar to a man who rented a lodging in Denpasar," Mr Kuncoro said.

Mr Kuncoro also said police had found pieces of paper containing scribbles relating to bombs, a personal computer and an audio-visual device. He did not elaborate or say where the discovery was made.

Officials suspect two members of the Islamic extremist group Jemaah Islamiyah - Malaysians Noordin Mohammad Top and Azahari Husin - played leading roles in organising the October 1 blasts and previous bombings in Bali on October 12 three years ago.

Mr Ardanto also showed a new set of pictures of the bombers' heads.

The battered but still recognisable heads have been reconstructed with bones repositioned with the help of foreign forensic experts, to give a more accurate likeness.
Posted by: Oztralian [AKA] God Save The World || 10/11/2005 04:44 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


JI, Abu Sayyaf primed to hit Philippines
Two terrorist cells consisting of Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) and Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) members are now in Metro Manila, poised to launch a wave of terrorist bombings, the military said yesterday.

A senior military official told The STAR that intelligence agents are tracking down eight to 10 members of these terrorist cells in the metropolis.

Each cell has four members and all of them look like Filipinos and speak Tagalog fluently, making it difficult for security forces to unmask them and their activities, the official added.

Meanwhile, the Bureau of Immigration (BI) has stepped up security in all ports and entry points in Mindanao to prevent foreign terrorists from sneaking into the country.

Immigration Commissioner Alipio Fernandez Jr. inspected over the weekend several ports in Mindanao, which have been put on heightened alert.

He also ordered BI officers to be on the lookout for "suspicious-looking foreigners" who could be JI members trying to enter through the "southern backdoor."

Fernandez said there are thousands of undocumented Indonesians in Mindanao, and that the BI is vigorously pursuing their registration in cooperation with local officials.

More than 2,500 undocumented Indonesians have already been registered through the program, which was launched last year, said BI boarding section chief Jose Carandang.

Fernandez said his men are focusing on ports in the cities of Zamboanga, Davao, Sarangani, General Santos, and Cotabato. The ports in Puerto Princesa and Brooke’s Point in Palawan have also been alerted, he added.

The ports in Zamboanga City and Palawan are nearest to Indonesia, where most JI members are reportedly based and undergo training. A contingent of Philippine Marines has been deployed in these ports for five years now.

Lt. Col. Buenaventura Pascual, Armed Forces public information chief, said the JI terrorists in Metro Manila are most probably Indonesians.

"There is a real threat," he said.

"They were able to carry out bombings in the past. I don’t want to sound alarmist, but the ASG and JI cells here in Metro Manila are capable of conducting bombings as we have experienced before.

"Our report is that there are JI operatives here in Metro Manila. What is definite is that the ISAFP (Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines) is monitoring a group of ASG and JIs in Metro Manila."

A senior intelligence official, who asked not to be named, said at least 10 JI terrorists are now operating in the National Capital Region, corroborating Pascual’s claim.

The JI militants "are very hard to detect because they operate in cells of four," the official said.

Security forces have been on guard since the Oct. 1 terrorist bombings in Bali, Indonesia, which killed 26 people.

Meanwhile, challenged by the porous coastlines and borders, the Naval Forces Western Mindanao is now heavily relying on its broad intelligence network to detect terrorists sneaking into the southern "backdoor."

The naval forces reconfigured its operational system to block the entry of the al-Qaeda-linked JI militants due to inadequate sea vessels.

Commodore Rufino Lopez Jr., Naval Forces Western Mindanao (NFWM) chief said, however, the lack of ships to patrol the large coastlines will be complemented by the presence of two task forces.

Task Force 62, implementing a Fleet Marine concept, is based in Tawi-Tawi and Sulu seas, while Task Force 61 is focused in Basilan and the Moro Gulf.

Four US Boston-Whaler speedboats have been acquired and have been utilized by the two task forces in their amphibious operation against the terrorists.

But Lopez said they will focus more on intelligence gathering, tapping the information network with its mass base.

Foreign and government security analysts revealed that the JI have been building up ties with the Abu Sayyaf, training their sights on the porous sea border of the Philippines and Indonesia.

"We are giving more resources to our intelligence before any preemptive strike is conducted," he said.

Lopez bolstered the massive intelligence work his command has been conducting, citing the recent apprehension of a speedboat that was supposed to be used by Abu Sayyaf chieftain Khaddafi Janjalani in escaping to Malaysia.

The naval intelligence also led to the capture last month of the militant Black Killer and six of his followers in Bongao, Tawi-Tawi, he added.

Lopez said focusing on intelligence operations would also prevent the navy’s assets from being depleted in times of actual missions.

Intelligence information showed that JI operatives Dulmatin and Umar Patek snuck into the country through Mindanao’s broad coastline after the 2002 Bali bombings in Indonesia.

Dulmatin is tagged as the key suspect in the Bali bombings, while Umar Patek was tagged as the one who coordinated the ground operations.

The US government has already offered a $10 million reward for the capture of Dulmatin and an additional $1 million for Patek who are reported to be hiding with Janjalani’s band in Central Mindanao.

Both military and the MILF have confirmed the presence of the two JI operatives in Maguindanao.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:28 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Aussies deny involvement of elite troops in Philippines hunt
The Philippines has denied that elite Australian troops have joined Filipino soldiers in hunting for Jemaah Islamiah militants.

Philippines military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Buenaventura Pascual said Australian security forces have only been involved in investigations into recent bomb attacks in the country, and the Philippine constitution bars any foreign troops from engaging in military operations.

He was responding to reports in News Ltd newspapers, citing an unnamed former agent as saying that Australian agents and Special Air Service Regiment troops were cooperating with Filipino soldiers in the hunt for senior terrorist figures.

Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer confirmed earlier this week that Australian personnel were in the Philippines, providing assistance to Filipino police and armed forces, but would not provide further details.

However, Pascual also warned that at least two terrorist cells composed of Filipino and Indonesian Muslim militants were plotting bombings in the Philippines capital Manila.

He said military intelligence agents were tracking down at least four people in each of the cells, but identified them only as members of the al-Qaeda linked groups Jemaah Islamiah and Abu Sayyaf.

Philippine security officials said earlier that Abu Sayyaf chieftain Khaddafy Janjalani was hiding with alleged Jemaah Islamiah militants Dulmatin and Umar Patek in the southern Philippines.

"They obviously are believed to still be in South-East Asia, possibly the Philippines. But the nature of these terrorist organisations is that they can move from country to country," US Embassy spokesman Matthew Lussenhop told Manila Radio DZBB today.

"We're working very closely with the Philippine government, Philippine security, to shut down that kind of possibility that terrorists can move in and out of the country," he said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:16 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Fil cops and soldiers are virtually worthless, despite SF training. Any serious work must come from outside.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/11/2005 2:33 Comments || Top||


Thailand: New strategy needed to match rebels
Security authorities need an improved strategy if they are to keep pace with the tactics of militants in the far South, Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Wannasathit said yesterday. After a high-level security meeting at Government House yesterday, Gen Chidchai, also the justice minister, admitted the insurgents had the superior strategy.

``The number of incidents is declining, but violence continues. The tactics of militants keep changing. We must accept the fact that our tactics rarely change.

``We stand and defend our turf, which makes us fixed targets,'' he said.

What was necessary in terms of security personnel and equipment had already been deployed to the region. The key to success rested with the quality of management, Gen Chidchai said.

The military needed to reorganise and work as a team with police, he said.

He said 700 more new police recruits had been deployed to the deep South, and existing local police would get extra training to boost their efficiency.

Defence Minister Gen Thammarak Isarangkura na Ayudhaya said civil servants, police and soldiers would integrate their operations with clearer delegation of responsibilities. At present, their operational areas overlapped.

Soldiers would enter and control highly volatile areas. Public relations efforts would target relatively peaceful zones.

The Justice Ministry was setting up justice centres in the region to assist local people, while the Interior Ministry would train more local defence volunteers.

To counter the use of mobile phones to detonate bombs, unregistered prepaid mobile phone cards would be disconnected in the deep South from Nov 15 onwards, Information and Communications Technology Minister Sora-at Klinprathum said.

Disconnection was set to take effect nationwide on Dec 31 for unregistered mobile phones. Of the 21.5 million pre-paid mobile phone numbers nationwide, 10 million had been registered so far.

Mr Sora-at said Thai phone operators would be asked to cooperate with their Malaysian counterparts, as Malaysian mobile phone signals also cover parts of the deep South.

Meanwhile, a mobile phone-detonated bomb believed to weigh five kilogrammes exploded in Narathiwat yesterday morning, narrowly missing a group of 15 teachers and eight escorting police riding motorcycles to Ban Ruamjai and Ban Lubo Lasoh schools in Sukhirin district.

The bomb, hidden in a roadside ditch on Sukhirin-Dusongyo road in Ban Aibuena, exploded about 8.15am. The teachers and their escort had just passed by when it went off. There were no injuries.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  suggestion? Cut off any and all outside mosque/muslim funding. Arrest or kill all imams spouting tripe. Crush the insurgency via hard-assed methods
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 0:03 Comments || Top||

#2  ``We stand and defend our turf, which makes us fixed targets,'' he said.

Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Wannasathit, meets basic training. Don't just defend, go on the offense.

IOW what frank said.
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/11/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

#3  but Frank, that would mean that we take off our gloves and fight the war to win. I don't think that's allowed.
Posted by: 2b || 10/11/2005 5:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Security authorities need an improved strategy...

Drain the friggin swamp. When everyone bitches, ask them when the Silesian Germans get to return to their ancestral lands.
Posted by: Angomoque Ulirt9319 || 10/11/2005 7:51 Comments || Top||

#5  I want to move back to Forest Lawn or Santa Fe. It's all mine anyway. All of it.
Posted by: .Alley Oops || 10/11/2005 8:01 Comments || Top||

#6  He said 700 more new police recruits had been deployed to the deep South,...

The Third World way. Send a bunch of green recruits to get slaughtered and/or do stupid things to piss off the fence sitters in the conflict. I guess it would just be too much to ask to send the recruits to, oh I don't know, a safe Buddhist area and send seasoned officers to the area with the eye-rolling, spittle spewing jihadis? And yes I know, that would involve taking veteran officers away from their sources of bribes and would screw up all sorts of clan and inter-clan relationships built up over decades, but one can dream, can't one?
Posted by: 11A5S || 10/11/2005 8:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Suggestion? Set up a mosque, built with public funds, attrack the local scum to come and worship and plot their attacks then attack the place....kind of like a roach motel..
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:34 Comments || Top||


Malaysia's new coast guard to begin patrolling Malacca Strait
KUALA LUMPUR (AP): A new Malaysian coast guard with 72 vessels will begin patrolling the piracy-plagued Malacca Strait next month, the government said Monday.

More than 4,000 personnel will eventually be trained to work for the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency, which will begin surveillance on Nov. 30 along the busy shipping lane between peninsular Malaysia and Indonesia's Sumatra island, Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak said.

Malaysia currently has no separate coast guard agency, and the 72 vessels will be transferred from the military and police, the national news agency Bernama quoted Najib as saying.

The government will spend RM 578 million (US$154 million) over the next two years on the agency's operations, which will be expanded to cover Malaysia's other territorial waters, he said.

Officials reported 27 pirate attacks last year in the Malacca Strait, despite coordinated patrols by Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore. More than 50,000 ships use the waterway annually, carrying half the world's oil and a third of its commerce.

Some intelligence experts also fear terrorists could collaborate with pirates to seize a ship, sail it into a harbor and set off a massive explosion.

Last month, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore and Thailand launched a joint air patrol program to help safeguard the 900-kilometer waterway.
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Afghanistan-Pak-India
Jihadi Earthquake Damage Report
12. Muzaffarabad and the Manshera district of the NWFP, which were in the epicentre of the quake, have also been for many years the epicentre for international jihadi terrorism. The Jaish-e-Mohammad (JEM) and the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HUM), both members of Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front (IIF), had their jihadi training infrastructure in the Manshera district, particularly in Balakot, which is reported to have been totally destroyed by the quake. In the beginning of this year, the Al Qaeda too had shifted one of its training camps from the Waziristan area of the Federally-administered Tribal Areas (FATA) to Manshera. There were also unconfirmed reports that bin Laden had taken up residence in the Manshera district. The LET and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI), which are also members of the IIF, had their training infrastructure in Muzaffarabad. The United Jihad Council headed by Syed Salahuddin of the Hizbul Mujahideen, an indigenous Kashmiri terrorist organisation with no known links to the Al Qaeda or the IIF, was also operating from Muzaffarabad.

13. No estimate is available of the damages suffered by these terrorist organisations as a result of the quake. Many foreign nationals from Indonesia, Thailand, the US, the UK and other countries were reportedly undergoing training in the camps in the Manshera district. Only the LET has so far admitted that its infrastructure in the POK has been severely damaged. A spokesman for the Jamat-ud-Dawa, the political wing of the LET, admitted at Islamabad on October 8, 2005, that mosques, hospitals, schools and madrasas run by the LET in the POK were destroyed by the quake. He added: ''Many of our members have been killed. They are in scores while several others are still trapped under the rubble.''
"God struck them all dead. But I'm sure it was a mistake..."
14. Afraid that foreign rescue teams might discover the dead bodies of the foreign terrorists killed by the quake in the Manshera District of the NWFP, the Pakistani military has reportedly barred civilian rescue teams from working in certain areas where these terrorists had been kept. This has been strongly criticised by some political leaders, including Qazi Hussain Ahmed, the Amir of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JEI).

15. The POK-based United Jihad Council (UJC) has announced that it would suspend its operations in the earthquake-hit areas of Jammu & Kashmir. A statement issued by it on October 9, 2005, said: “Syed Salahudin has directed UJC cadres to halt their operations in the affected areas.” Before the issue of this announcement, unidentified terrorists shot dead five members of two Hindu families in the southern district of Rajouri on October 9, 2005. The same day, another group of terrorists clashed with an Indian Army patrol in the Gulmarg area. Eight of the terrorists were reportedly killed in the ensuing exchange of fire.

16. The Taliban and the Al Qaeda remnants operating from Pakistan have sought to convey an impression that the quake has not affected their capability for operations inside Afghanistan. One Salimullah Khan Mujahid, who now projects himself as the spokesman of the Taliban after the recent arrest of Latifullah Hakimi, his predecessor, by the Pakistani Security Forces, claimed on October 10, 2005, that Taliban fighters hit a US helicopter with anti-aircraft rockets in the eastern Nuristan province. This is the third instance this year in which the Taliban has claimed to have shot down US helicopters.The US military command in Afghanistan has so far confirmed only one of these claims. There were unconfirmed reports that a US military spokesperson had also confirmed a second claim.
Posted by: Rory B. Bellows || 10/11/2005 16:29 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Time to use the New Orleans plan and evac all the 'civilians' from the destroyed areas and relocated elsewhere. Leaving the area clear for open search and destroy sweeps in their wake. Now's the time to put Musharraf in the corner with the Saudis.
Posted by: Whains Uleremp8425 || 10/11/2005 18:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Yup, God's (Name your own) aim is definately improving.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/11/2005 19:08 Comments || Top||

#3  They'll blame it on Bush. America and it's allies were thought by some to have caused the tsunami. I'm sure they will think it of this quake.
Posted by: plainslow || 10/11/2005 20:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Now I know how the old Finns felt when they shouted:

"Gott mit Uns!"
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 21:16 Comments || Top||

#5  DanNY, There's something I don't know about, or that's simply German, not Finnish. I suspect the former. Might you enlighten me?
Posted by: Spomomp Huperese6135 || 10/11/2005 21:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Gosh, first God strikes devote Banda Aceh Sumatra (home of the most fanatical Wahabi types in Indonesia) and kills 300,000. Now, He does something similar in Osama's sanctuary and Taliban country in Northern Pak. Hmmmm... maybe all the Beslan massacres and homicide bombs aren't terrorizing Him properly. Maybe He is trying to send the Wahabis and fanatical Islamist a SUBTLE message?
Posted by: Elmeamble Sneatle3802 || 10/11/2005 22:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Another 100,000 killed in another natural attack against these bastards in Islam, and maybe I'll start going back to church on a regular basis
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:25 Comments || Top||


Indian troops kill eight in quake-hit Kashmir
SRINAGAR, India - Indian troops killed eight suspected terrorists militants in Indian Kashmir on Tuesday, police said, despite a uniliateral ceasefire called by the terrorists rebels while earthquake relief operations are under way. “Security forces today foiled an infiltration bid of terrorists on the (Line of Control), while they were crossing over” from the Pakistan side of the disputed state, a police spokesman said.

“During the ensuing exchange of firing, eight terrorists were killed,” he said, adding that arms and ammunition were recovered from the dead. The clash took place 140 kilometres (88 miles) north of the summer capital Srinagar, police said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2005 15:20 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A unilateral ceasefire......this suggest a Darwin award.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/11/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#2  I would have offered some sort of aid to the terrorists to get them out in the open...with the intention of killing as many of them as possible. They could poison the food or something..Then they could have taken pictures of the dead bastards and sent special holiday mementos to their miserable families. Happy Ramadan, LOSER
Posted by: Witt || 10/11/2005 22:16 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Somali shock at new ship hijack
Somali pirates have hijacked a ship with its 10-member crew on its way to the Somali port of El-Maan. The MV Torgelow was carrying fuel and food to a UN-chartered vessel freed last week by gunmen who had held it and its cargo of food aid for three months. The ship's owner said he was shocked by the most recent hijacking which took place on Sunday.
I am shocked I tell you! Shocked!

The International Maritime Board says there have been at least 20 attacks on ships in Somali waters since March. It urges ships in the area to stay as far away as possible from the shore. Somalia has had no functioning national government since 1991 and the country has been divided into fiefdoms run by rival warlords.

Karim Kudrati of the Kenya-based Motaku Shipping Agency said the Sri Lankan captain and the nine Kenyan crew members had volunteered to make the trip. "I am surprised these people are doing this and especially in the holy month of Ramadan. I think we have to withdraw from this service," he told Kenyan television.
Yar! Allan wants us to be pirates!
The MV Semlow was finally released last week in a deal brokered between the pirates and a Somali businessman with its rice cargo - intended for Somali victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami - intact. Phtaw! Rice! Whadda ya mean there's no booty or loot? How can you expect any self respecting pirate to survive on rice? Saki anyone?It had run out of fuel and was waiting in El-Maan for supplies before returning to Mombasa in Kenya. Authorities at the port said the pirates were not paid and had released the Semlow unconditionally.
Yar! We be pirates with altruitic motives! No rum nor pieces of Ait fer us!
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 08:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The ship's owner said he was shocked by the most recent hijacking which took place on Sunday.

Why shocked? This sort of thing can be expected in areas where no government is in control. Did he think otherwise?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/11/2005 15:11 Comments || Top||

#2  The U.N.must be paying ship ownwer and crews some $$$ to go there.It would take some seirious jack for me.
Posted by: raptor || 10/11/2005 22:36 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan-Pak-India
Rebels Kill 19 Policemen in Afghanistan
KABUL, Afghanistan -- Suspected Taliban rebels ambushed a police convoy in southern Afghanistan and killed 19 officers, the deadliest attack ever on the fledgling police force, officials said Tuesday.

The convoy of 150 police was attacked late Monday while driving on a dirt road along the side of a mountain in Helmand province, said Interior Ministry spokesman Yusuf Stanikzai.

Dozens of insurgents opened fire on the convoy, sparking a gunbattle that lasted until early Tuesday before the militants fled into the mountains, he said.

Among the 19 dead was Helmand's deputy police chief, Stanikzai said. Four police officers were wounded and four police vehicles were destroyed.

Security forces rushed reinforcements into the area and have secured the region, the spokesman said.

Another Interior Ministry official, Dad Mohammed Rasa, said the attack was "the deadliest ever on the police," which was set up soon after U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban from power in 2001.

The attack comes amid a major resurgence in violence by Taliban-led rebels that has left about 1,400 people dead in the past half year. On Monday, two suicide bombers killed three people in the main southern Afghan city of Kandahar, a former Taliban stronghold.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 08:31 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's a big police convoy. Sounds more like militia than police.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 10/11/2005 13:31 Comments || Top||


Pakistani, Chinese hard boyz killed by US troops
Five militants including one Pakistani and two Chinese nationals were killed in fresh anti-insurgency operations in Afghanistan’s troubled southern zone, where another six people perished in separate bomb explosions on Monday.
I sometimes wonder: Do any Afghans live in the area? Or is it all Paks and Chinese and Chechens and Arabs and Samoans and Lapplanders?
Afghan and US forces shot dead three foreign Taliban insurgents and captured 10 others in a sweep through the Zabul province, said Wazir Mohammad, administrative chief of Shinkay district. Two Taliban fighters were killed and five others wounded in a crackdown jointly carried out by Afghan and coalition forces. Gen Mohammad Sarwar, deputy commander of the Kandahar Military Corps, said the sweep was conducted in Maroof district. Security forces suffered no casualties in the operation, Gen Sarwar said, adding the dead bodies of the combatants were still lying in fields.
"General, sir? Shouldn't we send somebody to police up those bodies? They're startin' to stink!"
"Shovel some manure over 'em. Why waste perfectly good fertilizer?"
The 10 detainees were being grilled, he said.
"Your moustache wax, sir!"
"Thank you, Mahmoud! And which truncheon would you recommend?"
Meanwhile, two suicide explosions in Kandahar killed six people and wounded eight on Monday, officials said. According to officials, a suicide bomber blew himself up in the city centre, killing a senior anti-Taliban commander and three others. Eight people were also hurt in the blast which was followed by a second explosion in which a suicide bomber died on the road leading to the airport when the bomb strapped to his body exploded prematurely, said Kandahar governor Assadullah Kahlid. There were no other casualties, he said.
"I didn't realize this road was so bumpy! I hope this thing doesn't [KABOOM!]"
“Both incidents were the work of Taliban and Al Qaeda suicide bombers,” Khalid said. Among those killed in the first blast was a former senior factional commander, Agha Shah, Kandahar police chief Colonel Mohammad Hakim said. “At least four people, including Agha Shah, lost their lives in the explosion,” Hakim said. Body parts from the victims of the first explosion were strewn on the dusty road outside Shah’s house in a crowded area of Kandahar. Shah was among local commanders who helped US-led forces to overthrow the Taliban government in 2001. A Taliban commander, who identified himself as Sabir Momin, claimed responsibility for the first incident.
Hakimi's successor, I'd venture...
A US military helicopter crashed during an anti-militant operation in Afghanistan, but although the aircraft was a write-off there were no casualties, an American military spokesperson said on Monday.
"Alright! That does it! Next time we're taking the bus!"
"But, sir! You were the pilot!"
Separately, one US soldier was killed and another wounded during an attack by militants in the southern province of Zabul on Sunday, a military statement said. An engine malfunction caused the MH-47 helicopter to crash in the eastern province of Kunar on Thursday, said Tyler Foster, a US military public affairs officer. “The aircraft was returning from dropping troops during an offensive operation,” he said, adding that none of the crew were hurt. Foster did not confirm recent media reports quoting a U.S. official in the United States saying Taliban militants had shot down the Chinook. At the time the Taliban claimed to have shot it down. Foster said an investigation was continuing to determine the cause of the crash.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/11/2005 01:22 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Been wondering when Chicom Spetzlamists would make an appearance - s'bout time. Too many Americans fergit than when China talks about East Asian hegemony, its NOT only littorals and the PACRIM she's referring to - its NOT just INDIA, or Malaya-Indonesia-Thailand, and NOT just Pakistan. Assuming America loses in the WOT, its gonna be interesting, the future INTRA-TOTALITARIAN WAR between the Islamists and Secular Commie-Socies. GOTTA WONDER WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE/IDEOS WILL FIGHT IN A "WAR TO SAVE TOTALITARIANISM", or "POPULAR ABSOLUTISM!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2005 5:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Chinese = Uighurs?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2005 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes, it's the "wee gers"
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/11/2005 9:33 Comments || Top||

#4  The 10 detainees were being grilled...

Please pass the fava beans and chianti.
Posted by: Hannibal Parabellum Lechter || 10/11/2005 18:44 Comments || Top||


Earthquake: Terror meets terror in PoK
NEW DELHI: Did Saturday's earthquake inflict collateral damage on Pakistan's infamous terrorist training camps? What impact will it have on PoK-based jehad in India? Intelligence and security analysts in IB, RAW and other agencies pored over this very possibility on Sunday with the latest intelligence inputs in the aftermath of the natural disaster.

This was after reports that the worst-hit were districts and villages with known terror camps in PoK. It was intensified after news reports quoted a Lashkar-e-Taiba spokesman as saying, "Many of our members have been killed. They are in scores, while several others are still trapped under the rubble."

But the cold assessment that emerged was clear: the earthquake will have no discernible impact on Pak-sponsored jehad in India. Home secretary V K Duggal refused to commit himself to any overt statement on Monday.

There are some reports of camps in areas like Kotli, Bagh, Nikial and Muzaffarabad in PoK being hit by the quake but since most of the jehadi training camps are makeshift ‘mobile' structures that can be translocated very quickly to evade scrutiny, it would not amount to much tangible loss.

"The camps have temporary structures to house jehadis. The training facilities are also rudimentary in the sense that the firing range for practice could be in a jungle nearby," said an official.

Sure, some of the terrorist cadres would have been killed or injured, but Indian officials say this is akin to losing them in unsuccessful infiltration bids or even in encounters with the Indian Army. "They are basically cannon fodder," say officials, "The real leaders of the movement continue to flourish in Islamabad and Lahore, not in forward camps in PoK."

Moreover, as reported earlier by TOI, the dossier prepared by Indian intelligence and security agencies clearly shows the over 50 training camps operating across the border are not limited just to PoK but are spread all over Pakistan.

For instance, while 29 such camps are located in PoK, 15 or more are present in the North West Frontier Province. Another seven are in Punjab, three in the Northern Areas of Gilgit-Baltistan, and one in Sindh.

One major location of the Jehadi factory hit by the quake is, of course, the densely-forested Manshera region in NWFP. A hotbed for jehadis, it houses several madrassas, which also double up as training camps. "But that again will not impact the terror tap," said an official.

In 1998, the US cruise missile strikes in Khost, Afghanistan, wiped out a number of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen cadres training there. But this had no effect on the organisation or its activities.

According to terrorism analyst Ajai Sahni, the December 26 tsunami washed away more than 2,000 known LTTE cadres from Sri Lanka. But even that has not diminished the Tamil Tigers.

Indian officials are now also concerned about the diversion of the flood of international aid to Pakistan in the aftermath of the earthquake. After 9/11, a series of international finance laws by the UN and US had effectively shut off the funding tap from Islamic charities, which were being used to fund jehad by outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed.

The earthquake opens Pakistan to funds from all manner of organisations in the world, and Indian officials fear that some of these may be diverted to oil the jehadi wheels again.

Besides, they say, despite a ceasefire call from Syed Salahuddin of the United Jihad Council, militants mounted a big infiltration bid on Sunday night trying to take advantage of the post-quake chaos.

However, it is equally true that for the immediate future Lashkar or Jaish cadres might occupy themselves recouping their strengths or rebuilding their camps.
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How well did the Pak nuke sites weather the quake?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/11/2005 0:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Was wondering that myself 3dc.

Hopefully not well at all...
Posted by: DanNY || 10/11/2005 1:04 Comments || Top||

#3  It will make it more difficult for the Paki "government" to sponsor terrorism.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/11/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Rebels Call Truce
The main rebel alliance in Indian Kashmir yesterday said it had suspended fighting in quake-hit areas even as Indian police reported fresh bloodshed in the bitterly disputed region. Kashmir’s main rebel alliance, the United Jihad Council, faxed a statement to the local Kashmir News Service saying militant operations were on hold in regions affected by Saturday’s devastating 7.6-magnitude earthquake. It said that Syed Salahuddin, chief of the region’s most powerful rebel group, the Hizbul Mujahedin, “has directed its cadres to halt their operations in the affected areas.”

There was no immediate formal response from the Indian Army, which continued its operations in the Indian part of Kashmir, the disputed and divided Himalayan region that is also partly held by Pakistan.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It's a total disaster. We'll have to go with the hudna thingy. All our stuff just sorta, well, fell down. Our weapons caches, our terrorist training camps, even our barracks and homes where we keep the baby jihadis. All flattened. We have no idea when we'll be back up to speed. It'll really put a crimp in everyone's schedules, too: vacations, graduation ceremonies, the works. Gonna take a massive infusion of Western capital, that's for sure. Oh, almost forgot, the one thing we're sure of: it's Bush's fault(line)."
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 8:24 Comments || Top||



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