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Afghan Talibs kidnap 23 S. Koreans
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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Russian arms merchant, Viktor Bout, still causing major trouble
The Times of London has just outed another aircraft tied to Viktor Bout by U.N. reports, to arming Islamist radicals in the Horn of Africa.

The undercover sting operation by the newspaper found that a Russian, Alexander Radionov, whose Antonov 8 aircraft in Sharjah was already identified as a Bout aircraft, was willing to fly a load of weapons to the Islamic Court Union forces in Somalia, even though Somalia is still under a U.N. arms embargo.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/21/2007 14:54 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad


Afghanistan
Taliban kidnap 23 South Koreans in Afghanistan
Continues yesterday's story...
Taliban insurgents kidnapped 23 Korean Christians from a bus in Afghanistan on Friday, officials said, the biggest group of foreigners seized so far in the militant campaign to oust the government and its Western backers. “We obtained an intelligence report that the South Koreans were abducted by Taliban insurgents this morning and are now trying to confirm it through various channels,” the South Korean Foreign Ministry said in a statement. “The reason they picked South Koreans as their target is believed to be because South Koreans often travel by land with the least security measures,” the ministry said.

Taliban fighters have increasingly turned away from classic guerrilla warfare and instead have taken up what Afghan officials call “terror tactics” - kidnapping, suicide attacks and roadside bombs. “Twenty-three Korean citizens, 15 women and five men, were very carelessly travelling in a chartered bus from Kabul to Kandahar yesterday, and on the way to Kandahar their bus was stopped by armed men, who took them away,” said Interior Minister spokesman Zemari Bashari.

He said the incident happened in the Qarabagh district of Ghazni province, around 175 km (110 miles) south of Kabul. “We are still investigating which organisation they were with, and why they were travelling to Kandahar,” he said.

The Taliban said they had seized 18 Koreans, 15 men and three women. “They are safe with us, we are investigating them and our demands and reaction will be announced later,” said Taliban spokesman Said Yousuf Ahmadi by telephone from an undisclosed location. Around 1,200 South Korean Christians including hundreds of children had arrived in devoutly Islamic Afghanistan last summer. The Kabul government had ordered them out amid fears for their safety.

South Korea has no combat troops in Afghanistan, but has a contingent of 2,200 engineers, doctors and medical staff.

Two Germans and six Afghans were abducted southwest of Kabul on Wednesday and are still missing. “The German citizens are safe with us. Our demand is the withdrawal of German troops from Afghanistan and also the release of our prisoners,” said Ahmadi.

Germany said it was aware of the Taliban claim. “We have taken note of the comments from a so-called spokesman for the Taliban. There is also a statement to the contrary from a Taliban spokesman from yesterday. He has indicated that the abducted Germans are not in Taliban hands. There is a contradiction here,” a German Foreign Ministry spokesman said in a statement. “We will carefully and calmly pursue developments. All necessary steps have been taken. The emergency task force is working very intensively on a quick release of both men.”

A German national was kidnapped in western Afghanistan this month, but was released unharmed after a few days. The Taliban kidnapped two French aid workers and three of their Afghan colleagues in southwestern Afghanistan in April, but later released them unharmed.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Taliban car boom kills two innocent bystanders, wounds two soldiers
A car bomb targeted a US-led coalition convoy in southern Afghanistan on Friday leaving two civilians dead and two soldiers wounded, while a Taliban ambush on police left six officers dead, officials said. The car bomb hit the convoy in Helmand province’s Sangin district, said Sgt 1st Class Dean Welch, a coalition spokesman. The bombing left two civilians dead and two soldiers with light wounds, Welch said. A coalition vehicle caught fire after the blast, he said. In Helmand’s Marja district, Taliban militants ambushed police on Thursday, leaving six officers dead and two others wounded, said Muhammad Hussein, the provincial police chief.

Two police vehicles were also damaged in the attack, Hussein said. There were no reports of Taliban casualties. Violence has soared in Afghanistan in the last several weeks. More than 3,300 people have died in insurgency-related violence this year, according to a count based on numbers from Afghan and Western officials.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  straight from the pages of 'how to win friends and influence people'
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 12:50 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Three people slain in Mogadishu
(SomaliNet) Three persons have been separately killed in the Somalia capital Mogadishu overnight as lack of security increases to its highest level, sources say on Friday. Two of the killed people were men while the other was a woman. Unknown local armed men carried out the killings.

One of the men was shot dead by gunmen in Aymiska village in Yaqshid district, north of the capital while the rest two people, one of whom a woman were killed around former cigarette and match factory in the city.

It is not yet clear why these people were slain but the security forces began investigations over the killings. But earlier the local Islamist militants vowed to kill anyone whose ambition is to take part in the reconciliation congress, which restarted in Mogadishu on Thursday.

Insecurity has mounted in the Somalia capital since the Islamic Courts Union, which had been controlling much of southern and central Somalia for six months, was overpowered by the Ethiopian forces backing the transitional federal government late December 2006.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts


Africa North
11 terrorists killed in Tizi Ouzou and Tipaza
Army forces eliminated last week-end eight terrorists in Yakouren forest in Tizi Ouzou wilaya, during raking operations led after the last week terrorist attack on a gendarmerie headquarters in the region. Moreover, joint security forces killed three terrorists 8km southern west Larhat locality in Tipaza wilaya during clashes between the terrorist group and security forces.

Yakouren forests in Tizi Ouzou are still being swept, where 8 terrorists have been eliminated by army forces within two days, and sources talk about the arrest of a wounded terrorist. Another source revealed the surrender of 4 terrorists who may have told security services that the former Islamic Salvation Front FIS chief right hand man Ali Ben Hadj's son is among the group besieged. The information we could not make sure of because of the tight security surrounding of the sweep operation in the area.

As for Tipaza security operation, preliminary information from local sources mention that the terrorist group tried to blackmail citizens to enter in a clash with joint security forces who outmaneuvered the terrorist group attempts killing thus three of them while the others fled.
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Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in North Africa


Arabia
Saudi militants in Lebanon and Iraq embarrass homeland
Recent reports suggesting there are significant numbers of Saudis fighting alongside Islamist militant groups in Iraq and Lebanon have provoked embarrassment and soul-searching in Saudi Arabia. Iraq's National Security Adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie said this week that Iraq had tried 160 Saudis for involvement in violence, and a report in a U.S. newspaper said 45 percent of foreigners fighting in Iraq were Saudis.

Lebanese officials say dozens of Saudis are among militants of the Fatah al-Islam militant group which has been battling the army for two months in a Palestinian refugee camp in north Lebanon.

The Saudi-owned Arabic press has countered the reports, citing officials who say the numbers are exaggerated in both Iraq and Lebanon.

Columnists are once again wrestling with the issue of the Saudi role in global Islamist militancy, an issue which first came up after the September 11 attacks in 2001 where 15 of the 19 attackers were Saudi nationals.

"The question raised since the 9/11 terrorist attacks is whether Saudis, once known as the most peace-loving people, are aware that they have become an international problem?" wrote Abdel-Rahman al-Rashed in Asharq al-Awsat newspaper this week. "Why Saudis, we may ask? Because they are mentally and politically prepared to act like time bombs that can be manipulated by regimes with dangerous political agendas."

Saudi Arabia has blamed Iran for stoking radical sentiment in the region, through backing its allies Syria, Iraqi Shi'ite groups, Lebanese group Hezbollah and Palestinian group Hamas.

Saudis, in turn, have joined Arabs fighting in the ranks of al Qaeda in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. Estimates on the numbers have varied from hundreds to thousands.

"Why is the Iraqi government exaggerating the number of Saudis, while denying any role of Iranians in the violence?" Abdelaziz al-Suwaid wrote in al-Hayat newspaper on Thursday, blaming non-Arab Shi'ite Iran for stoking violence.

Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz recently asked Saudi clerics to do more to stop Saudis going to fight in Iraq, saying they were being exploited as suicide bombers.

Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state which rules according to an austere school of Sunni Islam called Wahhabism. Many Saudi clerics regard Shi'ites as heretics though no prominent clerics have publicly called on Saudis to fight in Iraq. "The authorities can't fail to be embarrassed ... but as to what the real numbers are, it's difficult to judge," said Neil Partrick of the International Crisis Group.

"The Saudi position in general is that they have spent a lot of money on their direct border with Iraq, and they see themselves as having actively pursued radical messages and fatwas (edicts) issued by Saudi clerics," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  Saudi militants in Lebanon and Iraq embarrass homeland

Only because they're being caught alive. The Saudis have no shame.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Embarass the Saudis? The House of Saud's dark side is financing most Islamoterror, and the leaders of the kingdom do nothing about it.
Posted by: McZoid || 07/21/2007 1:07 Comments || Top||

#3  from a young age saudis are taught to hate sponsored and funded by the government no less!!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 07/21/2007 8:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I think it's a little more complicated than that. PART of the Saudi royal family is embarassed if only because they like to project a worldly air and continue to rack up the riches. They're happy to have Islamicists attack the west but only to the degree that it doesn't affect their oil sales and their financial holdings elsewhere.

However, the other part of the royal family are true Salafists/Wahabists and are directly funding and promoting this shit.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  The Saudis have a very tightly controlled border to the north; they are letting their problem-children out but not back in. They're quite willing to put up with the 'embarrassment' because it's an more than adequate trade-off towards having domestic stability.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/21/2007 11:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Too, this reduces the number of defective sons they have to find wives for.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 11:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Saudis, once known as the most peace-loving people...

Uh, when was this exactly?
Posted by: SteveS || 07/21/2007 12:26 Comments || Top||

#8  damn, you beat me to that one steve... i already had copied it to my clipboard, then read the comments.
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||

#9  I think it's a little more complicated than that. PART of the Saudi royal family is embarassed if only because they like to project a worldly air and continue to rack up the riches. They're happy to have Islamicists attack the west but only to the degree that it doesn't affect their oil sales and their financial holdings elsewhere.

However, the other part of the royal family are true Salafists/Wahabists and are directly funding and promoting this shit.


What worthwhile distinction is there to be made between those who directly sponsor terrorism and those who knowingly turn a blind eye to it? Both are equally responsible. Both are our worst enemies.

It is precisely our government's willingness to make such an unmerited distinction that has prevented proper prosecution of the Global War on Terror. The situation is much like 20 years ago when a convicted bank robber who netted $5,000 would get ten to twenty years of hard time while a corrupt CEO who embezzled $500,000 would receive probation.

Our law holds culpable and punishes those who are accomplices to a crime, be it before or after the fact. The Saudis are both, yet our traitor elite refuses to act. We are being betrayed by those sworn to defend us and our young soldiers are dying for it.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 13:09 Comments || Top||

#10  The distinction is useful because it helps to explain why those in power hesitate to take on the Saudis directly. (Although, remember that Bush DID push them a couple years ago, causing near heart-failure among the 'realists' and leftists.)

The Saudis most leaders meet are the cynical, corrupt ones. The Saudis who are most funding and abetting jihad are those like Nayyaf, who are not especially corrupt but ARE fanatical and operate behind the scenes in the kingdom.

I share the deep frustration re: what the wahabists are doing, and a deep understanding of their danger to us. But I also know that anyone in power in DC or London or elsewhere is not as free as a blog commentator to decide on sweeping actions with potentially huge side effects.

Taking on the currently largest source of oil would destroy the global economy. Count on that - the Saudis are quite capable of riding out a couple years of oil embargo, even if it required harsh measures to control the resulting unrest in those less rich than the royals. We're in far less robust a condition, both because of our global dependencies and because any leader who tried would be thrown out of power / neutered quickly by those whose pocketbooks were hit.

May come to that, if we can't gen up alternative sources of power and / or stabilize Iraq. But I understand why Bush or anyone else in DC would pause before committing us that way.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 13:33 Comments || Top||

#11  I share the deep frustration re: what the wahabists are doing, and a deep understanding of their danger to us.

I do not doubt that.

But I also know that anyone in power in DC or London or elsewhere is not as free as a blog commentator to decide on sweeping actions with potentially huge side effects.

Where do I advocate "sweeping actions with potentially huge side effects"? Others here are the ones who want to see Riyadh nuked or what have you. That said, some sort of genuinely punitive measures need to be put in place. One of the only productive paths is the targeted assassinations of Prince Sultan Ibn Abdulaziz, Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz and Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz. Throw in Prince Turki al Faisal for good measure and the Saudi Royals' zeal for supporting terrorism would take an abrupt nosedive.

The disappearance of these three key Sunni terrorist players would not topple the House of Saud nor destabilize the Kingdom. It would send an unmistakable message that America will not tolerate deceit and sponsorship of terrorism, especially by our putative allies.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 13:56 Comments || Top||

#12  Easier said than done, Zen. Remember, the top royals play a deeper game of political and physical assasination than our spooks can gernerally envision, much less master. Nayaff is still around and still controls all of the kingdom's interior security forces -- and he's the senior wahabist in the family.

Moreover, I'm not at all sure the results would be what you think. Many of the younger royals are more, not less, wahabist and anti-West.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 14:56 Comments || Top||

#13  Many of the younger royals are more, not less, wahabist and anti-West.

Nothing like a few cases of swift onset lead poisoning to give them pause for some reconsideration. The younger set cannot possibly have the same depth of contacts and cell structure access. The very basis of their high context societal power structure guarantees this.

I believe it is Nayaff that periodically wanders off on desert sojurns. He would be a sitting duck while he does that. Our reticence over killing these enemies is more political than due to any lack of ability. One thing is certain: America does not have the financial resources to continue prosecuting the Global War on Terror at this same level for another generation, as you predict this conflict will last. Reducing our conventional military role without utilizing covert strategies will only lessen national security and that is entirely unacceptable.

All of this points towards eliminating the main players in global terrorism. Refusal to do so only increases the butcher's bill for the West and even more so for the Muslims. I wish there was time to get off the oil teat or begin halting food exports to the MME (Muslim Middle East) as a punitive measure but either one of those options is hopelessly lethargic. We need speedy results and will simply have to risk some uncertain outcomes in the name of undercutting logistical and financial support for terrorism.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 15:34 Comments || Top||

#14  I think you badly misunderstand how Arabs would respond to killing the senior Saudi princes. But perhaps I'm wrong. My personal experience with Saudis and other Arabs was in a business context and occurred a while back.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 16:02 Comments || Top||

#15  Where do I advocate "sweeping actions with potentially huge side effects"? Others here are the ones who want to see Riyadh nuked or what have you. That said, some sort of genuinely punitive measures need to be put in place.

Excellent. You've got it down pat.
Posted by: Himmler the WonderTyper || 07/21/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||

#16  heh
Posted by: Frank G || 07/21/2007 17:26 Comments || Top||

#17  (Although, remember that Bush DID push them a couple years ago, causing near heart-failure among the 'realists' and leftists.)

Remind me please? I don't remember that one.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 18:04 Comments || Top||

#18  Perhaps we're overlooking prior strategic advice:

"If a problem cannot be solved, enlarge it."

Dwight D. Eisenhower

As for capacity to weather ugly economic consequences, is there any question about how the ME would end up?
Posted by: Zebulon Sholuting5706 || 07/21/2007 19:21 Comments || Top||

#19  TW, one of the ways Bush pushed the Saudis was to refuse to declassify the 9/11 report language about Saudi involvement in the attacks.

That might not seem like a big move, but it was public pushback against a Saudi PR campaign that tried to hide royal family funding for jihadi movements. The Saudis made a big deal of publicly asking for the report to be declassified and were embarrassed and angered when he refused.

He also made no move whatsoever to discourage the 9/11 families' lawsuit against some Saudi royals. The Saudis even tried a counter lawsuit claiming they suffered psychological distress as a result of the pressure ....

Given their complicity in overt attacks on US troops in Iraq and their increased funding of salafist mosques, those actions by Bush in 2002 may seem small. But they made big waves in the middle east at the time, as I recall. Bush Sr. was pretty upset, if stories were accurate.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 19:45 Comments || Top||

#20  I think you badly misunderstand how Arabs would respond to killing the senior Saudi princes.

Not nearly as badly as we should have reacted to fifteen Saudis flying fully loaded passenger jet airliners into occupied skyscrapers. Nowhere did I say that we had to take credit for such actions. Our espionage agencies have the ability to make these killings look like terrorist attacks. With al Qaeda having declared war even on Saudi Arabia, all bets are off and no holds barred.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 20:04 Comments || Top||

#21  Thanks, lotp. I knew the Saudis were upset with the president because he doesn't unthinkingly adopt his father's likes and dislikes, making him a bad son in their eyes, but I'd forgotten the details.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 21:12 Comments || Top||


Britain
British terrorism arrests after chance 'hydrogen peroxide' find
British police say two men have been arrested under anti-terror laws after two large containers labelled hydrogen peroxide were found in a flat. The pair were arrested Wednesday night (local time) in Bristol, the main city in south-west England, said Avon and Somerset police.

The July 22, 2005 failed London bombings involved a plot to explode home-made devices made of hydrogen peroxide and chapatti flour in rucksacks. The bungled attack came two weeks after the deadly July 7 suicide attacks in the city. Avon and Somerset police made no links with that case, nor with last month's failed car bombings in London and Glasgow.

Police initially arrested a man of Afghan origin in central Bristol on suspicion of drugs-related offences. They then searched a flat in a district with a large Muslim population, and found two 25-litre containers labelled hydrogen peroxide. The substances found "led them to believe there may be a potential link to terrorist activity," police said in a statement. The substances were undergoing forensic examination, with the results expected soon.

The suspect was arrested again under the Terrorist Act 2006 and further investigations led to the arrest of a second man, of Somali origin. "This investigation is in its very early stages and we hope to clarify the situation at the earliest possible opportunity," said Assistant Chief Constable Steve Mortimore of Avon and Somerset Police. "Our message to the public for some time now has been that while we don't want people to be unduly afraid, everyone should be aware of the potential risks and be vigilant." Police said one of the arrested men was in his late teens to early twenties, while the other was in his fifties.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  Fools. Shoulda labeled 'em "Baby Milk".
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/21/2007 1:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Some sort of nearly crippling cognitive pathology must be involved whereby individuals can somehow hope to attain victory by using weapons made with hydrogen peroxide against a nation armed with hydrogen bombs.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 1:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Not as crippling as the pathology of a nation that lets these subhumans people in, in the assumption that they will quietly assimilate.
Or the pathology of elected masters that try to ram an amnesty bill thru, despite the cries of "do not want!!!" from 3/4 of the electorate.

On some of my darker days, I even think we deserve to spend 30 or 40 generations under the islamic yoke. At least the hajji's are honest about their will to power. And they would have the nerve to kill some of these bleating morons we're saddled with when they get obnoxious. Sigh.

Still, I'm glad to see they have gotten at least one druggie/terr off the street.
Posted by: N Guard || 07/21/2007 6:17 Comments || Top||

#4  If it's a crime to have hydrogen peroxide, I'm in deep trouble.
Posted by: doc || 07/21/2007 7:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Fools. Shoulda labeled 'em "Baby Milk".

I hear that...
Posted by: Peter Arnett || 07/21/2007 7:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Zenster: They are prepared to use their hydrogen peroxide to kill and, by killing, have cowed some large percentage of our populations into submission. We show no sign of ever being prepared to use our hydrogen bombs. In fact, a large percentage or our populations consider using such weapons to be a sin but seem content to allow their daughters to be raped by Orcs.

If it were down to me, hydrogen bombs would have been deployed by 2pm on September 11, 2001.
Posted by: Excalibur || 07/21/2007 7:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Surely you don't keep several barrels of the stuff lying about, doc? Along with several more barrels of chapati flour (why chapati, I wonder?)
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 7:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Flour dust is explosive in a confined space. During the Berlin airlifts, the planes that flew the flour and coal flew back with all their doors open to air out the dust.

Also see grainery explosions.

All in all though, would have made for a lousy bomb, I think. There is a lot better stuff out there you can make over the counter.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/21/2007 8:05 Comments || Top||

#9  The flour dust isn't that great.

But the hydrogen peroxide is used to make TATP aka "Mother of Satan" when combined with acetone (i.e. nail polish remover, available in many beauty supply stores). This is the unstable stuff we've seen Islamicist terror groups make and use often.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:10 Comments || Top||

#10  Acetone is available by the gallon at Home Depot.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/21/2007 8:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Yeah, it's easy to get all sorts of places. I was just looking at my nails that need doing today and thinking about a supplies run to Sally's Beauty Supplie, where it's also available by the gallon, as is peroxide ..... ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:36 Comments || Top||

#12  Bad spelling and typing. Need caffeine.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:37 Comments || Top||

#13  You gals are always primping for your chance to grace the cover of the DS&TP.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/21/2007 8:41 Comments || Top||

#14  It's been a couple decades since that would be appropriate in my case, NS. These days I just aim for not being a bad example to the young'uns ... LOL
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:48 Comments || Top||

#15  The hydrogen peroxide found in Pharmacies and beauty supply stores is not the same as industrial grade stuff.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/21/2007 9:46 Comments || Top||

#16  I'm envisioning hordes of bleached blond terrorists fanning out across England! Don't forget, Jayne Mansfield was called a "bombshell"!! 'nuff said

Posted by: Justrand || 07/21/2007 9:54 Comments || Top||

#17  We show no sign of ever being prepared to use our hydrogen bombs.

Not enough people have died yet. At least that's what our politicians certainly seem to be waiting for telling us. We can probably expect them to act when their daughters are being raped repeatedly.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 12:56 Comments || Top||

#18  The hydrogen peroxide found in Pharmacies and beauty supply stores is not the same as industrial grade stuff.

darn tootin... it is only 3-7 % peroxide and the rest water. straight peroxide can be used as a rocket fuel, and was used by the germans in WWII for thier rocket planes (Komet).

any organic (carbon bonds) material will react violently with the peroxide, but the peroxide needs to be industrial grade and it would still be difficult to make it work well...
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 13:04 Comments || Top||

#19  All our beloved muslim neighbors say about this shit is: Islamophobia. Muslims never admit to doing anything wrong. They are like New York taxi drivers.
Posted by: Spike Angath7177 || 07/21/2007 13:30 Comments || Top||

#20  As kids, we used to make flour bombs using M-80s or cherry bombs, a small paper sack and a half-cup of flour. Made a huge boom, knocked a few limbs down from surrounding trees, but not very dangerous if you were 10 feet away or more. The flour has to be DISPERSED, or it simply burns. There are easier and less dangerous ways of making explosives than hydrogen peroxide and acetone. Glad the jihadis have such a lousy background in chemistry. LOTS of things can be made to go boom if you know how...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/21/2007 14:18 Comments || Top||

#21  Maybe this isn't the best possible explosive and wouldn't have killed many people.

Still, it's the thought that counts. They wanted to commit terrorism. That should be enough to execute them.
Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds || 07/21/2007 22:36 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Haneef may have been planning Australian terror attack


* AFP finds "unusual" landmark building photos
* Haneef claims ordinary tourist shots
* Haneef, Ahmed emails now possible evidence

POLICE are investigating whether Mohamed Haneef was part of a planned terrorist attack on a landmark building at the Gold Coast.

Australian Federal Police are examining images of the building and its foundations found among documents and photographs seized in a police raid on the doctor's Southport unit three weeks ago.

The AFP inquiry is looking at documents referring to destroying structures discovered in the raid, law enforcement sources said.

The investigation also is examining information seized in the raid which indicated the Gold Coast doctor planned to leave Australia the day before or after September 11 - the anniversary of the terrorist attacks on New York.

It is understood in his second interview with the AFP last Saturday, Haneef was questioned about photographs of him and his family taken in Queensland and overseas.

Haneef, a registrar at the Gold Coast Hospital since September last year, explained that the images were only tourist shots.

Investigators consider some of the photos seized are not ordinary holiday photos.

The AFP investigation is also looking at information that Haneef was one of a group of doctors who had been familiarising themselves with the operation of planes at a Queensland premises.

Haneef, 27, was last week charged with recklessly supporting terrorist activity by providing a mobile phone SIM card to his second cousins, Sabeel and Kafeel Ahmed, both of whom are being held in Britain over the failed terrorist attacks.

Haneef's solicitor Peter Russo said he knew nothing about the investigations into the documents and photographs relating to the Gold Coast building or destroying structures.

"He wasn't questioned about the majority of these matters," Mr Russo said.

"A couple of other questions were asked ... but not in such a fashion that we could tell what they were talking about.

"Obviously if you're Muslim and you come from India, don't dare take any photos of any structures ... or that will be interpreted by the Queensland police force of having a sinister intent."

The AFP has been criticised for its handling of the investigation after it was revealed that Haneef's SIM card was not found in the burnt-out Jeep at Glasgow airport after the botched terror attack on June 30, as a Brisbane court was told a week ago.

Instead, the SIM card was discovered eight hours later in Liverpool with Sabeel Ahmed, who is facing the minor charge of withholding information.

Law enforcement sources said AFP agents have downloaded information from four computers in the library of the Gold Coast Hospital where Dr Haneef has worked as a junior registrar since September last year.

The investigators are trolling through 31,000 electronic pages, most of it in Hindi.

A senior source confirmed yesterday that emails between Haneef and the Ahmed brothers in Britain are now seen as possible evidence.

An AFP spokeswoman said Commissioner Mick Keelty would not confirm or deny the allegations as the matter is before the court.

Hours after being granted conditional bail by a Brisbane magistrate on Monday, the Federal Government cancelled Haneef's visa on character grounds.

A hearing will be held in the Federal Court next month to determine whether he will remain in custody while he awaits trial.

Haneef is currently being held at Brisbane's Wolston Correctional Centre.
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/21/2007 19:25 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: al-Tawhid

#1  Haneef's lawyer angry over new leaks
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/21/2007 19:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Haneef's lawyer angry over new leaks
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/21/2007 19:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Argh. Well i screwed that up.

Lawyer admits Haneef leak
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/21/2007 19:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Add the leaking lawyer to the plot investigation.
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger || 07/21/2007 20:08 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan: Revenge Attacks on Chinese Nationals and Security Personnel
Posted by: 3dc || 07/21/2007 14:57 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  I love the smell of popcorn in the morning.
Posted by: Excalibur || 07/21/2007 15:55 Comments || Top||

#2  What is the reason for the revenge attacks? I don't imagine that Pakistan imports much tooth paste or dog food.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/21/2007 15:59 Comments || Top||

#3  They're messing with the Chinese? Bad move.
Posted by: Pholurt Trotsky7716 || 07/21/2007 19:30 Comments || Top||

#4  The jihadis think the Lal Masjid attack was ordered by the Chinese
Posted by: John Frum || 07/21/2007 19:53 Comments || Top||

#5  John, why would they think that? And would the Chinese conduct their own revenge attacks?
Posted by: Jonathan || 07/21/2007 20:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Jonathan, prior to smackdown the Lal punks kidnapped some local Chinese chicks as part of a crackdown on "prostitutes". Then 3 Chinese workers were killed in cold blood. The Chicoms don't look kindly on that kind of thing....
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 07/21/2007 20:25 Comments || Top||

#7  J: And would the Chinese conduct their own revenge attacks?

Contrary to Hollywood movies, it's not easy for small teams of people to wreak havoc in hostile territory. At least while getting back alive. 9/11 showed that it was possible to do so if the people involved weren't too concerned with getting back alive. Even Mossad assassination teams in Europe who blended in and had large support teams in-country (involving local Jews who volunteered their help) ended up getting arrested for their assassinations of PLO officials in response to the PLO's Munich killings of Israeli athletes.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/21/2007 23:14 Comments || Top||

#8  BTW, the Chinese don't exactly blend in - not in Pakistan.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/21/2007 23:15 Comments || Top||


Manhunt launched for 7 Waziri suicide bombers
An extensive manhunt has been launched for a group of seven suicide bombers who left North Waziristan a few days ago to target government interests across the country.

Sources link the group to the recent suicide attacks on army and law enforcement personnel in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan and NWFP, which have left over 45 dead and many injured. They say 15 teams, comprising officials of law enforcement and intelligence agencies, are conducting the manhunt.

Daily Times has learnt that intelligence agencies informed the Interior Ministry that more than 60 militants recently met at a Tang Killi madrassa in the North Waziristan’s Dattakhel tehsil. They decided to not carry out terrorist acts in North Waziristan and to drive out militants from the Agency to “earn the government’s goodwill”. At the same time, they decided to continue militant activities in other parts of the country and tasked their elder, Maulvi Ghanamzar, with preparing seven to eight individuals from Dattakhel for suicide missions. Militants also denounced the Lal Masjid operation and decided to step up terrorist activities across the country.

Responding to the intelligence agencies’ warning, the Interior Ministry directed Home Secretaries of all provinces to go ‘all-out’ to arrest the suicide bombers.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Solution: nuke Waziristan.
Posted by: McZoid || 07/21/2007 1:20 Comments || Top||


2 young bombers ready to hit Punjab
The Punjab Home Department has warned that two clean-shaven youngsters may carry out suicide attacks in the province, Geo news reported. The Punjab home secretary told the channel that all police officials in Punjab had been directed to put the security on high alert. Police had arrested six suicide bombers from Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore, he said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Decisions, Decisions?
Arrest every man wearing a beard?
Or Arrest every man NOT waring a beard?

My choice? Arrest them all, feed them all through Intel Gathering, throw back the ones you don't want. Keep the others, make them vanish.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/21/2007 13:42 Comments || Top||


Nuggets from the Urdu press
He-couple of Baghbanpura
As reported in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, in Baghbanpura a gay man killed his 36 year old lover for marrying a girl. According to reports, Shahbaz, the groom-to-be, had relations with a local man named Babar for ten years. A month before Shahbaz got married, Babar invited him to his place, intoxicated him and then tortured and killed him.

Politicians are easy victims of criticism
In daily Nawa-e-Waqt, columnist Atta ur Rehman wrote that Aitzaz Ahsan, lead counsel of the Chief Justice, argued that if we criticise the Army we could get a jail sentence, as Javed Hashmi did. If we say something against judges, they have the power to imprison us for six months. If we criticise the religious parties, we are afraid of fatwas of apostasy from them. But it’s very easy to criticise the politicians. He said that politicians are the most criticised group, though there is also no doubt that politicians are not innocent either.

Taliban forced 6 year old to carry suicide belt
As reported in Daily Pakistan, a six year old boy alleged that the Taliban tried to force him to wear a suicide belt to attack American forces in Afghanistan. The Taliban have denied the allegations. Six year old Juma Gul, from District Andhar, said that the Taliban took him to southern Afghanistan and sent him to the district office wearing the suicide belt.

Pakistan’s ideology vs Hindus’ 33 crore gods
In daily Nawa-e-Waqt, columnist Allama Choudhry Asghar Ali Kausar Warriach wrote that intelligent students of Karachi visited Data Darbar to pray for the future of Pakistan. They were invited by Majid Nizami, chairman of the Ideology of Pakistan Foundation (IPF). The president of IPF, Dr Rafiq Ahmad, said that the reason for the creation of Pakistan was that Muslims, who believe in one God, should live separately from the Hindus, who pray before 33 crores of gods.

Jihadi butcher kills shrine keeper
As reported in daily Express, in Farooqabad the keeper of the darbar Bhoori Wali Sarkar, Ghulam Sarwar, was slaughtered by a butcher, Mohammad Irfan, in front of hundreds of devotees and a police contingent. The culprit said that he is waging jihad against evil, and he wanted to kill Naseebo Lal, who was coming to perform there. He said the keeper of the shrine arranged these gatherings at the shrine and invited women of bad reputation. He also wanted to target cable operators, who are spreading obscenity in every household.

Ume Hassan claims 80 corpses were inside Jamia Hafsa
As reported in daily Express, the Lal Masjid administration claimed that 80 dead bodies are lying in Jamia Hafsa. Ume Hassan, wife of Maulana Abdul Aziz, told a private TV channel that 30 dead bodies of girl students are lying in Jamia Hafsa and 50 students are lying in Lal Masjid. Omar, a student of Jamia Faridia who was present in Lal Masjid told a private TV channel that there were 300 armed warriors inside the mosque and 1,200 female students inside Jamia Hafsa before the operation.

Pakistan style of transition of power
In Daily Pakistan, columnist Tanveer Qaisar Shahid wrote that he saw a peaceful transition of power from Tony Blair to Gordon Brown that we can only dream of in Pakistan. In our beloved county we see big fights, allegations and scandals before the transition of power. Ayub Khan was removed by agitated crowds, and Zia ul Haq was removed by fire. Bhutto was removed by a noose, and Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif were dragged from office.

Historical burqas of Lal Masjid
In daily Jang, columnist Nazir Naji wrote that the historical burqa shall be placed in a museum for future generations to remember the golden period when a maulvi of a government mosque occupied illegal property. He turned the mosque into a fortress and then tried to impose his self-styled Islam on the 16 crores of Muslims in Pakistan. They pushed the children of others for martyrdom but tried to escape in a burqa when their time of martyrdom came.

Copy of Quran safe inside burnt floor
As reported in daily Jang, a picture of the mausoleum of Prophet Mohammad (PTUI PBUH) and a copy of the Quran were saved from the fire that broke out on the fourth floor of the National Assembly. The copy of the Quran was safe inside the drawer of a desk that was completely burned.

Cursed billboards of Karachi
According to daily Jang, the Chief Minister of Sindh, Arbab Rahim, expressed his grief for the people killed by falling hoardings. He said that it was the wrath of God Almighty, because every advertising company was displaying nude girls on the hoardings for the promotion of their products, which is not according to sharia and Islam in our Islamic society.

Blasphemy by Sikh religious leader
As reported in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, Indian Punjab’s High Court has granted bail before arrest to Sikh religious leader Baba Gurmait Singh Ram Rahim and ordered him to hand over his passport. The tension between Akali Takht and Dera Sacha Soda arose when Gurmait Singh published an advertisement showing him in the style of the 10th guru, Guru Gobind Singh. Akali Takht said that Gurmait Singh blasphemed against Guru Gobind Singh.

50 percent of imams in England are Pakistani
Daily Jang, quoting from BBC report, wrote that only 6 percent of imams of mosques in England have English as their first language. 45 percent of imams have spent less than 5 years in England. 50 percent of the imams are from Pakistan, 20 percent from Bangladesh, and 15 percent from India. 66 percent speak Urdu and 51 percent deliver their Friday sermons in Urdu. Only 23 percent have lived in England for more than 10 years.

Burqa couldn’t hide the walk
In daily Jang, columnist Nazir Naji wrote that if Abdul Aziz’s escape in a burqa was successful then Ghazi Abdul Rashid would have followed his brother. Before them a bearded friend escaped from the security forces in a burqa. Two security officers got suspicious because the walk of that veiled lady was different. When they removed his veil they found Maulana Abdul Aziz.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Coming up next: "Harry Potter and the Cursed Billboards of Karachi"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/21/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  A tree Jinn told me to post 900 words of convolution. I'll start here.
Posted by: Himmler the WonderTyper || 07/21/2007 17:18 Comments || Top||

#3  "Omar, a student of Jamia Faridia who was present in Lal Masjid told a private TV channel that there were 300 armed warriors inside the mosque and 1,200 female students inside Jamia Hafsa before the operation." Four women for every man, your full Koranic limit!
Posted by: imoyaro || 07/21/2007 19:10 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Troops raid Baghdad Sunni mosque
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/21/2007 19:35 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  At some point, I wonder if we haven't started to do the logical thing and put surveillance UAVs over the city, filming it 24/7 to track back where insurgents came from.

We have had computers capable of tracking an entire city for years, including all of the vehicles and people in the open. It's about time that we used it.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/21/2007 20:24 Comments || Top||


Pentagon Aide Says Clinton Helps Enemy
WASHINGTON, July 19 (AP) — A Pentagon official has told Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton that questions she has raised about how the United States would withdraw from Iraq feed enemy propaganda.

The stinging wording of the message, from Under Secretary of Defense Eric S. Edelman, was unusual, particularly because it was directed at a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Mr. Edelman’s July 16 message, in response to questions Mrs. Clinton raised in May, was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

“Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq,” he wrote, “reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia.”

A Clinton spokesman, Philippe Reines, said the senator would respond to Mr. Edelman’s boss, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates. Mr. Reines said military leaders should offer a withdrawal plan rather than “a political plan to attack those who question them."
Political types need to come up with constructive advice rather than trying to score points by "bringing the troops home" and leaving a mess to deal with later!
While Mrs. Clinton has pushed the Pentagon for information about withdrawal plans, so have others lawmakers, including Senator Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee.
Better to finish the job now than have mass chaos to fix later
Posted by: Wxman || 07/21/2007 07:26 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  Follow up headline. "Pentagon Aide is Correct in that Hillary Clinton Joins Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in Aiding the Enemy by Spouting Off."
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/21/2007 10:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Better to finish the job now than have mass chaos to fix later

Unfinished business left by Democrats for Republicans:
Korea [where's the withdraw plan?]
Haiti
Kosovo
and we won't include the little festering bite, Somalia. [like that didn't encourage AQ]

Pot:Kettle. Kettle:Pot.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/21/2007 10:37 Comments || Top||

#3  but...but..Liberalhawk says she's right up there with Joe L in supporting our troops. Pretty obviously that was the pose-of-the-day to try and gain credibility. She shed that skin like a snake the minute she had to turn left to appease the Donk primary nuts. Disgusting person. Pure ambition and need for power. God forbid she (and her First Husband!) ever gets in charge
Posted by: Frank G || 07/21/2007 11:07 Comments || Top||

#4  This is at least the third article I've seen on the same memo by Undersecretary Edelman, all from AP. I'm glad, because this is a point that needs attention beyond warblogs like this one.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 11:35 Comments || Top||

#5  From 9/11 onwards, this sort of b****-slapping should have been a typical response to the incompetent and dishonorable "critics" - yes this includes Lugar, though his incoherent and silly position is more pathetic than offensive - not just from sub-cabinet and cabinet officials but from congressional surrogates and allies. It should have been directed at these folks, at the media when appropriate. It should have combined enough (merited) vituperative zing to guarantee attention and concise info and conceptual content to refute and educate.

As the entire "critique" of the war to date never rises above "whaah, it's hard, I wanna quit mommy" (I refer to the "critique" that is ever mouthed by public figures, not the much more substantive comments by nobodies or isolated columnists like Peters, et al), it would not have been hard to keep a portion of the public thinking straight about the whole thing.

The case in point is very trivial. The much more important, and outrageous, distortions of the past several years (pre-war intel, Geneva Conventions, "distraction" from Afghanistan, "no exit strategy", etc.) would look very different to the average "news" consumer if they had, even once, heard an intelligent framing of the actual issues, relevant history, and applicable concepts.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/21/2007 12:01 Comments || Top||

#6  I agree Verlaine. There has been too much silence from the administration and not enough silencing of critics. Clinton had a damage control response team to deal with the fallout from his peccadillos. The carping critics are constant and partisan--they don't do anything for the good of the country.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/21/2007 12:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Asking a Senator to stop bloviating is a lost cause, methinks.
Posted by: Glaviling Ghibelline9377 || 07/21/2007 15:22 Comments || Top||

#8  What I got from Clinton's comments was the she wanted the Pentagon to plan for failure and she said it open press which is montitored by our enemies. I call that aiding by any definition.

Procopius2k, You left out a little enterprise is what used to be known as Southeast Asia. While Eisenhower sent advisors, Kennedy sent combat troops which made our eventual full involvent unavoidable.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/21/2007 17:56 Comments || Top||


Michael Yon: Seven Rules and One Oath
Today marks D+30 since the start of Operation Arrowhead Ripper. The initial goal of Arrowhead Ripper was to clear Baqubah of al Qaeda, and then attempt to “jump start” the city back into civic life, which had all but ceased while the terrorists were in control. Though relatively minor clearing operations are still underway, there is little combat in the city.

Today Colonel Steve Townsend, the American commander of the 3-2 Stryker Brigade Combat Team, presided over a meeting with Iraqi Army officers and former insurgent leaders. The insurgent leaders who seem to be sincerely working toward peace are now collectively referred to as “the Baqubah Guardians.” I was allowed to attend the meeting, but was—understandably—not permitted to photograph or videotape the proceedings.

Colonel Townsend clarified the purpose of the meeting; it was not to formalize relations or to establish a chain of command, but to work out ways of cooperating to bring better days to Baqubah.

Colonel Townsend’s staff had prepared a slideshow that started off with a draft of “7 Rules.” The final version of the 7 Rules were open to discussion and suggestions from those in attendance. The rules were followed by an Oath, also still in draft.

First Colonel Townsend reviewed the 7 Rules, presented here verbatim from the slides:

1) Protect your community from AQI, JAM and other terrorist militia.
2) Accept both peaceful Sunni, Shia and others.
3) Stay in your neighborhood/AO [area of operations] for your safety.
4) Take an oath of allegiance to the Constitution of Iraq.
5) Register with Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces [biometrics for CF].
6) For your safety, wear a standard uniform and markings [an example was proposed].
7) Receive hiring preference for Iraqi Police and Army.

Then came the Oath, also presented here verbatim from the slides:

1) I will support and defend the Constitution of Iraq.
2) I will cooperate fully with the Iraqi government.
3) I will guard my neighborhood, community and city.
4) I will bear no arms outside my home without coordination of Iraqi Security Forces or Coalition Forces
5) I will bear no arms against the Government of Iraq, Iraqi Security Forces or Coalition Forces.
6) I will not support sectarian agendas.

After the proposal for the 7 Rules and the Oath were presented, the most interesting—fascinating, really—part of the meeting unfolded. . . .

Go read it all. The interaction between the ex-insurgents over the "rules" is fascinating.

I'll leave you with a couple of Mr. Yon's closing points (italic emphasis added):


. . . the easiest of all parts of the Oath was point Six—I will not support sectarian agendas. Every Iraqi in the room immediately was aboard on this one, and they even seemed enthusiastic about it.

I’ve saved an unmentioned point for last. The Iraqi flag appeared on some of the slides. But the graphic showed an Iraqi flag without the traditional words “God is Great.” This was clearly a potential flash point. In fact, one of the Iraqi interpreters nearly recused himself from the conversation. LT David Wallach, whose native tongue is Arabic, told me after the meeting that Saddam had put “God is Great” on the flags so that Iraqis would stop grinding the flags into the dirt with their feet. He said that Iraqis would never trample on anything that had those words written on it.

But other than the interpreter’s sudden jitters, I detected no overt emotion among the Iraqis. In fact, they were all calm, professional, and very polite. An Iraqi Colonel was generous enough to offer that he believed it to be just a mistake that “God is Great” was left off the flag that was used on the slides. But the Iraqis all agreed that nobody was going to sign anything that displayed an Iraqi flag without the phrase “God is Great.”

This might seem ominous to us. “Allah u Akbar!” are, after all, words that we have become accustomed to hearing when someone is doing something bad, like burning an American flag, or blowing up Americans. But these issues are more like the intense legal and media battles over the words “In God We Trust” on the money in our pockets, or the ongoing furor in some sectors over the phrase “One Nation, Under God, Indivisible . . . ” in the Pledge of Allegiance. (Not to mention the dust storms kicked up by the Pledge itself.)

Seeing “God is Great” written on the Iraqi flag might provoke some to protest “Why did we come here just to stand up a country who would write such things on their flag?” But I sat there in that meeting, which was completely civil and professional, and I thought about another flag, the one flying over South Carolina. Some people call that flag “heritage,” while others call it “hateful,” “painful” and “demeaning.” And today in that meeting, I thought about the descendants of slaves who are now top military commanders in the American Army, and in that moment I knew that Iraq could make it.
Posted by: Mike || 07/21/2007 06:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Poor foolish Iraqis don't know the War is Lost. Dingy Harry said so.
Posted by: doc || 07/21/2007 7:38 Comments || Top||

#2  I knew that Iraq could make it.

Of course they can - if the world will help them. Now at the moment when it is becoming clear that we can help the Iraqis to have a functioning government - the liberals are desperate to have it fail - Lliberals. who have invested their sense of self-worth into being against whatever those disdainfully ordinary conservatives are for - now consider it chic to be on board with the idea of another Saigon, just to prove they were right! Bush lied and people died.

I believe that this issue is going to drive a silver stake into the heart of the Democratic party. I really believe that liberals, not of the Kos/Soros deranged ilk, will look in the mirror, think about what they are condoning and say, "NO".
Posted by: AT || 07/21/2007 17:00 Comments || Top||


One insurgent killed, 9 others detained in Baghdad raid
Iraqi Special Operations Forces and Coalition Forces killed one al-Qaeda insurgent and detained nine others suspected of insurgent activities during an early morning intelligence driven raid in western Baghdad, July 19. Iraqi and Coalition Forces received enemy-fire while conducting their raid on a local residence. Iraqi forces killed the insurgent and carried out the mission. Iraqi and Coalition Forces also detained nine individuals who were at the objective location.

The primary targets of this operation are alleged to be responsible for conducting small-arms fire and improvised explosive device attacks on Coalition Forces and local Iraqi civilians in the western Baghdad area. They are also believed to be responsible for the kidnapping and execution of two Iraqi Soldiers. No Iraqi or Coalition Forces were injured during this operation.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Iraqi, Coalition Forces, detain Al-Qaeda leader in Mosul
Members of the 2/2nd Iraqi Army Battalion, Ninewa SWAT, with Coalition Forces as advisors, detained an alleged battalion commander for an al-Qaeda affiliated group in western Mosul July 19 during an intelligence driven operation.

Iraqi Forces also detained a second individual who allegedly controls 20 fighters who build and emplace improvised explosive devices in western Mosul. Five other suspected terrorists who were present during the operation were also detained.

The primary suspect is believed to be a former regime Army officer who controls six other emirs throughout Mosul. He reportedly is the liaison between the west side of the al-Qaeda affiliated group’s commander and other battalion commanders. Iraqi Forces detained the targeted individuals without incident. They also seized extremist propaganda, a cell phone, forged identification cards and an Iraqi passport. No Iraqi or Coalition Forces members were injured during the operation.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Damn! The BBC is reporting that Danish troops in Iraq evacuated hundreds of Iraqis, with families, who worked for them during the intervention. Now the Basra pocket is near toast, in face of do-nothing against Iranian aggression.

Time to dust off the nukes? Why the hell make and store or direct 10,000 nukes, and then not use them against a tyranny that is building nukes for use against the US Homeland?

Posted by: McZoid || 07/21/2007 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  The primary suspect is believed to be a former regime Army officer

Nice. I don't recall any of those being picked up before. A cell phone, too -- the IA 2/2nd is having a good hunt.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 8:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Now the Basra pocket is near toast, in face of do-nothing against Iranian aggression.

Either that or they are prepping a likely battlefield by getting out their civilians.

And yeah, their soldiers too. sigh. Still, Denmark has done a LOT for a country their size, compared to most of the rest of Europe. Unfortunately, none of those militaries was in good shape for real operations and even the countries that want to contribute are finding their equipment, men and political will near exhaustion.

What that's going to mean is either craven surrender on our part or bringing out the big guns. It's hard to see what other options there will be soon.
Posted by: lotp || 07/21/2007 8:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I vote for the big guns, if we're voting.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/21/2007 8:23 Comments || Top||

#5  The Danes understand what will happen to their friends should Harry Reid be successful.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/21/2007 14:46 Comments || Top||


String of east Baghdad attacks leaves four Iraqis dead
Coalition Forces killed three terrorists and detained 44 suspected terrorists during operations around Iraq Friday targeting terrorist leaders and their operational cells.

Coalition Forces conducted a broad operation south of Baghdad, raiding 10 buildings in search of a terrorist who is reportedly a Shari’a judge and cell leader for al-Qaeda in Iraq. As the ground force approached the first target, a Coalition security team saw two armed men taking up tactical positions against the force. Coalition Forces, reacting appropriately to the hostile threat, engaged the two armed men, killing them.

As Coalition Forces secured the series of buildings, they detained 16 suspected terrorists who are believed to have ties to the targeted individual.

Coalition Forces raided five buildings in the city during a raid targeting an al-Qaeda in Iraq cell leader there. As the ground force cleared the buildings, one man armed with an automatic weapon attempted to maneuver into a position to assault the force. Coalition Forces, reacting appropriately to the hostile threat, engaged the man, killing him.

The ground force detained 10 suspected terrorists on the scene for their alleged involvement with the al-Qaeda in Iraq cell.

Also in Baghdad, Coalition Forces targeted and captured two suspected terrorists allegedly involved in terrorist media operations. Intelligence reports indicate the two individuals work with media cells in Baghdad and Baqubah. Two additional suspects were detained during the raid.

Coalition Forces captured a suspected bombing cell member in Baghdad. The individual is allegedly part of a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device network operating in the capital city.

Coalition Forces captured an alleged al-Qaeda in Iraq financial emir and four of his associates during a raid east of Ramadi. Intelligence reports indicate the targeted individual is also a close associate of an al-Qaeda in Iraq emir and recently returned from Syria, where he allegedly facilitated the supply of weapons to terrorists in Iraq.

In Mosul, Coalition Forces detained eight suspected terrorists during three coordinated raids targeting the al-Qaeda emir of Mosul, who is also believed to be the al-Qaeda in Iraq deputy emir of northern Iraq. “Our forces continue to strike terrorists wherever they hide,” said Maj. Marc Young, an MNF-I spokesperson. “We’re seeking to eliminate the terrorists who conduct indiscriminate attacks against innocent Iraqi civilians.”
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  this leaves unanswered questions.

headline says for iraqis killed, but the article only mentions 3 'insurgents' kicking the bucket.

unless the 2nd paragraph is in addition to paragraph one, and anot a subset, then there are 5. if paragraph 2 is subset of paragraph one, what happend to the third one, and what about number 4 promised in the headline?

inquiring minds and all that...
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 13:18 Comments || Top||


3 terrorists killed, 44 suspects detained in Coalition operations
Coalition Forces killed three terrorists and detained 44 suspected terrorists during operations around Iraq Friday targeting terrorist leaders and their operational cells.

Coalition Forces conducted a broad operation south of Baghdad, raiding 10 buildings in search of a terrorist who is reportedly a Shari’a judge and cell leader for al-Qaeda in Iraq. As the ground force approached the first target, a Coalition security team saw two armed men taking up tactical positions against the force. Coalition Forces, reacting appropriately to the hostile threat, engaged the two armed men, killing them.

As Coalition Forces secured the series of buildings, they detained 16 suspected terrorists who are believed to have ties to the targeted individual.

Coalition Forces raided five buildings in the city during a raid targeting an al-Qaeda in Iraq cell leader there. As the ground force cleared the buildings, one man armed with an automatic weapon attempted to maneuver into a position to assault the force. Coalition Forces, reacting appropriately to the hostile threat, engaged the man, killing him.

The ground force detained 10 suspected terrorists on the scene for their alleged involvement with the al-Qaeda in Iraq cell.

Also in Baghdad, Coalition Forces targeted and captured two suspected terrorists allegedly involved in terrorist media operations. Intelligence reports indicate the two individuals work with media cells in Baghdad and Baqubah. Two additional suspects were detained during the raid.

Coalition Forces captured a suspected bombing cell member in Baghdad. The individual is allegedly part of a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device network operating in the capital city.

Coalition Forces captured an alleged al-Qaeda in Iraq financial emir and four of his associates during a raid east of Ramadi. Intelligence reports indicate the targeted individual is also a close associate of an al-Qaeda in Iraq emir and recently returned from Syria, where he allegedly facilitated the supply of weapons to terrorists in Iraq.

In Mosul, Coalition Forces detained eight suspected terrorists during three coordinated raids targeting the al-Qaeda emir of Mosul, who is also believed to be the al-Qaeda in Iraq deputy emir of northern Iraq. “Our forces continue to strike terrorists wherever they hide,” said Maj. Marc Young, an MNF-I spokesperson. “We’re seeking to eliminate the terrorists who conduct indiscriminate attacks against innocent Iraqi civilians.”

Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq


Rocketman, assistant captured during Marne Avalanche
Iraqi soldiers and U.S. paratroopers captured the ringleader of a cell responsible for conducting rocket attacks on the people and security forces of North Babil, July 18.

Soldiers of the 8th Iraqi Army Division and Paratroopers from Company B, 1st Battalion, 501st Airborne, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, conducted an air assault and joint raid as a part of the ongoing Operation Marne Avalanche and captured the rocket cell leader and another member of his team. The joint force also captured nearly 130,000 Iraqi dinar, six AK-47 assault rifles with 16 loaded magazines, an Uzi submachine gun with two loaded magazines, a bolt-action sniper rifle.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Now I'll have that silly song running through my head for the rest of the day.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/21/2007 9:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Captured? Why are we taking any of these subhumans alive?
Posted by: Parabellum || 07/21/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess that's why you ain't in charge.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/21/2007 12:00 Comments || Top||

#4 

Consider:
If you shoot 'em, it means one less jihadi which is not a bad thing.
If you capture them, there is one less jihadi running around plus whatever information you can squeeze out of them, plus - and this is a big one - the jihahdi's pals have no idea of the exact info you have accquired. Names, plans, phone numbers, codes, etc. all possibly compromised.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/21/2007 12:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Consider also
we take him alive, he lies to us, his firends pull some strings, the corrupt government official orders him released.

then we have the same number of jihadi's running around, and the government looks weak, and our guys look like a joke, and there is no real threat to prevent more jihadis joining up because they 'know' that if caught no biggie, and they will get to go back to killing the infidel after a bit of R&R.

dead jihadi's have a zero recidivism rate, and serve as a reminder and object lesson for fence sitters to say out of the infidel-killing business.
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 13:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Think it through, though. We've captured several tens of thousands of Iraqis, including more than 10,000 during the current operation (if ITM is correct, that is). We haven't heard of ANY being released. In fact, we haven't heard at all what's going on with them. We frequently don't hear of their capture by name until several weeks after the fact. We're wrapping up a huge number of jihadis, almost daily, so someone MUST be talking, and telling the truth. There are several ways of permanently marking the human body where it doesn't show to the naked eye. I HOPE we're doing this with jihadis. Anyone caught twice should simply disappear.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/21/2007 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  The Imperial Japanese would have raped, beheaded or immolated all 10K detainees. That's the darkside.

I have no problem detaining marginal suspects for later release after their biometrics are collected
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/21/2007 14:57 Comments || Top||

#8  This Pappy is a mess. A wimp. I'll bet he thinks nuking Japan was an act of mercy - in lue of killing them all by starvation. Weak, very, very weak.

Send money, FAN is on my hiney.
Posted by: Himmler the WonderTyper || 07/21/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||


3rd HBCT nabs top insurgent
Soldiers from the 3rd Squadron, 1st Cavalry Regiment detained one of the Multi-National Division-Center’s most wanted insurgents, along with four other individuals early Friday morning near Jisr Diyala.

Leaders from 3-1 Cav. gained intelligence early Friday morning that the known insurgent and a number of his associates were within their area of operations. Soldiers conducted a surprise raid and captured the individual with no U.S. forces injuries or damage to equipment, by surrounding the house following a 2-mile walk into the suspected insurgent’s neighborhood. It was well-known to the Soldiers that the individual was on the look out for Army aircraft and would move if he heard helicopters approaching.

The detained “high-value individual” is believed to be responsible for the recent increase in explosively formed projectile improvised explosive devices and indirect fire attacks against Coalition Forces east of Baghdad. He is also suspected of intimidating Iraqis that work with U.S. forces, as well as, kidnapping and murdering rivals of his cell.

In addition to his terrorist activities, the detainee is a member of an organized crime network in the Mada’in Qada, which is part of the Baghdad province. Coalition Forces believe the detainee has extorted the local population through his water distribution company and gas station enterprises.

The 3-1 Cav. is assigned to the 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team and is from Fort Benning, Ga. The unit deployed to Iraq in March 2007.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel frees over 250 Palestinian prisoners
Israel released more than 250 Palestinian prisoners on Friday as part of a US-backed deal to bolster Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas after Hamas Islamists took over the Gaza Strip last month.

The prisoners, who were mostly members of Abbas’s secular Fatah faction, arrived in the West Bank city of Ramallah where they were greeted by Abbas and reunited with family members. “You cannot imagine how happy we are that you came back to us,” Abbas told a crowd of about 3,000 at the presidential compound. “But our happiness is missing something because we want all 11,000 prisoners to return to their families.”
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Fatah

#1  Six million died horrible deaths so that Israel could do this?
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 2:05 Comments || Top||

#2  The address for you complains, Zenster, is closer to home.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/21/2007 9:17 Comments || Top||

#3  We can hope they will go home and destroy each other.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/21/2007 12:18 Comments || Top||

#4  if they kill each other it is the only way they will get the justice they deserve... Israel needs the deth penalty for terrorists.

Hammass will have a hard time wringing this kind of weak release if the shahids are dead.
Posted by: Abu do you love || 07/21/2007 13:28 Comments || Top||

#5  The address for you complains, Zenster, is closer to home.

The unwillingness of Oslo Accord participants to divest the substantial political capital that they have riding on a futile Two State solution has begun to approach the moral crimes of the terrorists themselves. Continued pursuit of reconciliation with those who abjectly refuse to honestly negotiate is costing human lives and doing so needlessly.

There will be no peaceful resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. The Muslims seek no such thing and never have. Continued genocide is their only goal and that invalidates every single other aspect of any attempts at settlement with them.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 13:41 Comments || Top||

#6  There will be no peaceful resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian crisis.

This is true Z. The muslims believe infidels (Jews) are occupying their sacred land (Israel). Thier mantra is to destroy Israel and drive all the Jews into the sea.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/21/2007 16:20 Comments || Top||

#7  There will be no peaceful resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian crisis.

But it's sure gonna get peaceful one of these days.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/21/2007 17:30 Comments || Top||

#8  But it's sure gonna get peaceful one of these days.

And I hope Israel gets the pleasure of making it so. After so much Palestinian crapulence that they've been through with the UN and Arab nations pissing in their ear and telling them it's raining the whole time, they most certainly deserve the gratification.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/21/2007 20:11 Comments || Top||

#9  Waah! The nice thing about personal responsibility, is that once you discover it, you stop the knee-jerk Bush blaming. Gone are the days of reflexivly blaming Bush like a heart broken donk in a drunken stooper. Bush isn't the boss in Israel, he's not even a citizen.

The simple fact of the matter is this, so read closely, if Israel was willing to take on Hamas directly, they wouldn't need to help Fatah do it. All they have to do is grow some sack and all the Fatah gunnies can stay in the klink.

Waah!
Posted by: Mike N. || 07/21/2007 22:27 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Today's shootings, bombings, arson and arrests in southern Thailand
Terrorists Presumed insurgents shot two persons in this southern border province Saturday morning, one being seriously wounded, felled three electrical power poles to block a road and placed dummy bombs in some areas.

Yala police identified the shooting victims as Manoo Dangsuwan, 72, a retired soldier and owner of a quarry in the provincial seat and quarry manager, Yothin Rodphon, who was seriously wounded after being hit in the torso, head and right leg. Mr. Manoo fired several shots from his pistol in a brief gunfight with the attackers who fled the scene. Police found blood stains on a bush and believed at least one of the attackers was wounded.

The latest incident occurred a few hours after some terrorists suspected insurgents felled three power poles blocking the road and planted suspicious-looking packages in three different areas. A bomb squad was called in only to found out that they were dummy bombs. The road was later cleared for traffic.

And:

A bomb exploded at a recreation park near a beach in Narathiwat's Tak Bai district but no one was wounded. The site is a popular visiting point for local residents and tourists on weekends.

Meanwhile, a school was torched in Cho Ai Rong district after security forces raided a village and detained 25 people for questioning on Friday. Banyaning School was burned to the ground on Friday night. Completely destroyed in the arson attack, police believe the fire was motivated in retaliation for the raid. A number of electric power poles were felled and spikes were strewn on roads to prevent police from initially responding to the fire.

A combined force of 150 police and soldiers had encircled Durulinsan village in Cho Ai Rong and conducted close searches in 20 locations earlier in the day. The village is the hometown of Masae Useng, a key insurgent group leader, with a Bt5 million bounty on his head.
Posted by: ryuge || 07/21/2007 08:26 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Thai Insurgency

#1 
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/21/2007 11:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Anyone, or any group, that torches schools should be hunted down, shot, cremated on the spot, and their ashes ground into the dirt. Killing someone robs them of their life: destroying a school deprives dozens of people of a future.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/21/2007 15:09 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Dozens claimed dead as Sri Lanka, rebels clash
Sri Lanka’s Tamil Tigers launched a pre-dawn attack on an army detachment in the restive northwestern district of Mannar on Friday, and both sides claimed to have killed nearly a dozen of their foes.

The incident came a day after the government staged a show of military might in the capital with a parade of tanks and troops and a fly-past by fighter jets to celebrate the capture of vast swathes of eastern territory from the rebels. It also comes after a rash of land and sea clashes, ambushes and air raids that have killed an estimated 4,500 people since last year alone.

“There was a confrontation in the early morning in Mannar. The LTTE fired mortars and artillery. We lost three (soldiers), and four were wounded,” said military spokesman Brigadier Prasad Samarasinghe. “Ground troops observed nine LTTE cadres killed, and technical sources say 24 were injured.” LTTE called their attack a “pre-emptive strike”, and said they had killed 10 soldiers and that four of their own fighters were killed.

“One of our units raided a mini camp in a pre-emptive strike as it was a source of harassment and shelling of civilian areas,” Tiger military spokesman Rasiah Ilanthiraiyan said by telephone from the rebels’ de facto capital of Kilinochchi. “Our men found 10 bodies of Sri Lankan army soldiers and collected military materials such as weapons.”

Ilanthiraiyan said subsequent army shelling had hit a civilian settlement on the Tigers’ side of the front line separating government from rebel territory, wounding a mother and her 11-month-old child. There was no independent confirmation of what had happened or the death toll.

Japan aid to clear mines: Japan said Friday it was giving 3.2 million dollars to clear land mines in Sri Lanka even as government forces and Tamil Tiger rebels stepped up attacks against each other. The money will go to five international mine clearing charities and help civilians to go back to their homes in areas that have seen recent clashes between government forces and Tamil Tiger rebels, officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
4 die as Revolutionary Guard clashes with bandidos
Members of the elite Revolutionary Guard have clashed with "foreign-guided" bandits in southeastern Iran, killing four of them and suffering several casualties, state-run television reported Friday.

The report did not provide details on the foreign power reportedly backing the bandits or specify the number of Guardsmen killed in the clashes, which started Thursday morning in a mountainous area near Zahedan, the capital of Sistan-Baluchestan province near the borders with Pakistan and Afghanistan. The television also said several Guardsmen and bandits were wounded and were taken to local hospitals for treatment.
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: IRGC

#1  Curious they have to use the RG for these kinds of policing operations. Local police and army probably can't be relied on.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/21/2007 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Local police and army are the bandidos, phil_b.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/21/2007 9:08 Comments || Top||

#3  The IRGC is responsible for domestic security outside the towns.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/21/2007 12:04 Comments || Top||

#4  What did we end up doing with the Mujahadin detainees?
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/21/2007 14:38 Comments || Top||


Lebanon army urges Islamist extremists to surrender
The army used loudspeakers Friday to urge Islamic extremists inside a Palestinian refugee camp in northern Lebanon to surrender, as sporadic fighting continued, witnesses and security officials said. The army has also urged the militants to release all the civilians , holding them completely responsible for their safety. The loudspeakers, which were set up on the roofs of some of the camp's collapsed buildings, were the latest military tactic to pressure Fatah al- Islam militants holed up inside the Nahr el-Bared camp to turn themselves in. "We are getting closer and closer. You must surrender and you will have a fair trial," the military broadcast repeatedly overnight Thursday and Friday morning, according to the witnesses and security officials.

The officials, who spoke on customary condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to give press statements, said no members of Fatah al- Islam had responded to the calls.

The army has also set up security cameras to monitor the fighters' movements.

Sporadic fighting continued Friday as the army resumed shelling the remaining positions of the al-Qaida-inspired militants.

Fatah al- Islam militants retaliated by firing four Katyusha rockets that landed in a village a few miles away from the camp, but there was no immediate word on casualties, according to the state-run National News Agency.

The militants have recently been firing the rockets on almost daily basis in what appears to be a new tactic to ease the army's pressure. A Lebanese teenager was killed and a young girl was injured Wednesday in rocket attacks on villages near the camp.

A Fatah al- Islam militant had warned they would send suicide bombers against the army if it continued its offensive against the besieged Nahr el-Bared camp located on the outskirts of the northern port city of Tripoli.

"We have hundreds of martyrdom seekers (suicide bombers) who were readied to go to Palestine but will instead blow themselves up against the Lebanese army if the battles continue," spokesman Abu Salim Taha warned in an interview published Thursday in a local newspaper.

Taha refused to say whether Fatah al- Islam leader Shaker al-Absi or his deputy, Abu Hureira, a Lebanese whose real name is Shehab al-Qaddour, had been killed in the fighting. He put the number of Fatah al- Islam dead at 50.

The whereabouts of Absi and Abu Hureira have been unknown since fighting began May 20.

The military has said 111 soldiers have been killed since fighting broke out in the camp two months ago.

The conflict with Fatah al- Islam militants is Lebanon's worst internal violence since the 1975-90 civil war. At least 60 militants and more than 20 civilians have been killed in the fighting, according to the Lebanese government and U.N. relief officials.

Absi may be dead
In an interview on Friday with Arabiyeh TV a Palestinian spokesman said Shaker al-Absi, the leader of Fatah- al-Islam may be dead because he was shot in his kidneys and liver. This confirms some rumors that circulated recently in Lebanon.

Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Fatah al-Islam


Terror Networks
Big Hizballah speech comming (debka)
Iranian sources report exclusively that the Hizballah secretary general Hassan Nasrallah whose fiery oratory is a byword in the Arab world, recorded a speech Sat. July 21, in Tehran. He is there secretly with top leaders of his movement to attend a council of war called by Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as DEBKAfile revealed exclusively Friday.

Our sources learn that his themes are Lebanon and the Palestinian question and will most likely also include threats to the United States and Israel. The network to air the speech - the Arabic TV Al Jazeera in Qatar, Tehran’s Arabic station, or the Hizballah’s Al Manar which broadcasts from Lebanon – is the subject of intense negotiation. We have learned that Al Jazeera is offering an extra-large fee for exclusive use of the tape, keen to preserve its lead as the preferred platform for top-line radical Muslims, such as al Qaeda big shots. Scheduling will be attuned to the timeline for Hizballah’s military plans.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/21/2007 14:45 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


Good morning....
Posted by: Fred || 07/21/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Got wood.
Posted by: Excalibur || 07/21/2007 7:52 Comments || Top||

#2  That is bad!
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/21/2007 8:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Good thing you printed her name because I was stumped.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/21/2007 10:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Ah, to be THAT stump...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/21/2007 13:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Mmmm-hmmm...
Posted by: Frank Sinatra || 07/21/2007 15:27 Comments || Top||



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