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Good morning
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In my minds' ey, Ima thinkin' this picture would have been much more interesting if it had been taken 20 minutes later.
Posted by: Scott R || 12/09/2008 7:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Darling, all this Joe Biden talk is giving me a headache. How about you Dorothy.




Greta, I'm sorry but I just need to party hardy and put Joe Biden's hair plugs behind me. Deux was good but menage a trois is bonheur suprême.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/09/2008 12:07 Comments || Top||

#3  To the tune of "Nuttin' for Christmas":

I put a rod through my wife’s head
Somebody snitched on me
I shot 20 people dead
Somebody snitched on me

I fed cops to wild beasts
Cut up neighbors just for meat
Burned down the entire street
Somebody snitched on me

Oh I’m getting set free on Christmas
The gov’nor and warden are nice
I’m getting set loose for Christmas
‘Cause the ACLU sued for me twice
Posted by: Iblis || 12/09/2008 13:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Hello
Interesting site name - # hostname, How did you get such a pretty domain name?
Posted by: Feellafal || 12/09/2008 17:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Feelafal - how'd ya git such a purty mouth?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/09/2008 17:56 Comments || Top||

#6  ß ÷òî-òî íå äîãîíÿþ, à â ÷åì ôèøêà?
Posted by: IVSergio || 12/09/2008 22:45 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Piracy continues to move down the east African coast

A Dutch container ship outruns some would be pirates off the coast of Tanzania (that's the country below Kenya on the African east coast), as reported here:

A high seas chase in which a container ship outran pirates shows the hijackers are extending their reach further out from Somalia, mariners say
Posted by: 3dc || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WORLD MIL FORUM > PIRATES CLAIM THEY ARE NOT AFRAID OF GATHERING INTERNATIONAL NAVAL FLEET
[gotta catch 'em first to fight/sink 'em].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/09/2008 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  The more you subsidize the more you get. [Didn't we play this same stupid game with crime in general in the late 60s and get an explosion in the statistics, resulting in any politician seeking office declaring himself/herself a 'law and order' candidate?]
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/09/2008 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Did anyone ever hear the story of the Trojan Horse? Why not disguise a destroyer as a container ship? Or jus put a MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS)on a couple of these freighters and I'll guarantee you this pirates will be gone.
Posted by: Art || 12/09/2008 9:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Deh usual pls.
Posted by: .5MT || 12/09/2008 11:54 Comments || Top||


Europe
French police detain new ETA Mr. Big
French police arrested the suspected military chief and "No. 1 member" of ETA on Monday _ a new blow to the banned Basque militant group just weeks after his alleged predecessor was caught, officials said. Trailed by police, the man identified only as "Balak" and two alleged accomplices _ all armed _ were detained on a street in the southwestern French village of Gerde shortly after nightfall, a French police official.

In a statement, French Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said "Balak" appeared to be the new head of ETA's military arm, assuming control after Mikel de Garikoitz Aspiazu, alias Txeroki, was arrested on Nov. 17.

In Spain, Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba said the arrests Monday followed a joint French-Spanish police operation. He identified the suspect the French authorities called "Balak" as Aitzol Iriondo. "Aitzol Iriondo is presumably Txeroki's substitute," Rubalcaba told reporters in Madrid. "And as such we're talking about the military chief and No. 1 member of the terrorist group ETA."

It was not immediately clear why there was an apparent discrepancy between the different names put forward by French and Spanish officials. Rubalcaba said authorities were working to identify the two other suspects.

Investigators believe Iriondo was one of three ETA members who participated in the fatal shooting of two Spanish civil guard officers in the southern French town of Capbreton last December, Rubalcaba said. Police investigators were still trying to work out whether Iriondo or Aspiazu was the triggerman for the killing of the two Spanish civil guards, Rubalcaba said.

Rubalcaba was clearly emboldened by the recent arrests. "I don't know if any terrorist is at this moment thinking about substituting Iriondo, but we can guarantee you that as we talk we're looking for that person," he said. "And it will go on like this until this finishes."
This article starring:
Aitzol Iriondo
Mikel de Garikoitz Aspiazu
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He pissed on himself from fear when he was arrested. Imagine what he would have done had he been arrested by his fellows of the Cuban or Saddam's police.
Posted by: JFM || 12/09/2008 12:19 Comments || Top||

#2  They just don't make terrorists like they used to, JFM. Is there a French version of Guantanamo Bay?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/09/2008 12:31 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
India police 'name Mumbai gunmen'
Indian authorities have released the names or aliases of the nine suspected militants killed during last month's attacks in the city of Mumbai (Bombay).

Photographs of eight of the men were released - the body of the ninth was said to have been too badly burned.

photos here
Posted by: john frum || 12/09/2008 15:33 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think I've found the problem...

Karachi citizens give their views on India's Mumbai accusations

Amin, street vendor: India is totally wrong in making these accusations. It always does this, even though they find out later someone else is involved. This is very wrong. If there is some evidence, then they should take action against the Jamaat-ud-Dawa. But there has to be strong evidence.

Shaghi, housewife: They are just making things up. It's not like that. They are responsible for the attacks themselves. As far as Dawa is concerned, they should have a conference and get together and talk things over. Otherwise, this will never end.

Habibullah Ansari, businessman: Indian accusations go back a long way. Whenever something like this happens, the Indians blame Pakistan. It is actually a result of their own brutalities. Now, they are all using it because of the upcoming elections. We should not comply, until and unless they provide hard evidence. And then the people should be arrested and tried under Pakistani law.

Faisal, student:This is our own weakness. What can we say? We ourselves have been a victim of terrorism. But if it's happening in India, or elsewhere, Muslims are blamed. This is due to differences between ourselves. Until Muslims get united, this will continue. India has to provide strong evidence before asking Pakistan to act.

Iffat Ashar, housewife: We don't believe Pakistan is involved in these attacks. They are because of their internal situation. They are just accusing Pakistan. I think Pakistan's image is like this in the world - whenever something like this happens, Pakistan is automatically blamed. I don't think Pakistan will take action against Dawa. They will do what is in their interest.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/09/2008 16:23 Comments || Top||

#2  At #1:

I guess Pakistani propaganda is working in Pakiland.
Posted by: sludge || 12/09/2008 17:14 Comments || Top||


Anger at 'blown' Mumbai arrests
Questions have been raised in India over the police handling of the arrest of a man suspected of handling mobile phone cards used by Mumbai's attackers.

Calcutta police arrested Mukhtar Ahmed for procuring SIM cards for the group without knowing that he was an undercover operative.

He was on a long-term mission with police in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Senior intelligence sources say a "high-value asset" has been blown and his family put at risk.

'Huge catch'

Mukhtar Ahmed has told those questioning him that he was working for police intelligence in Indian-administered Kashmir.

His brief was to procure SIM cards for Lashkar-e-Taiba fighters and pass the numbers to police so that all calls from those numbers could be monitored by intelligence.

Calcutta police officials admit that Mr Mukhtar has given them details of his work but say they can release him only if police in Indian-administered Kashmir make a formal request in writing.

Police there may be reluctant to do so as intelligence operatives rarely own up to undercover operations publicly.

Mr Mukhtar's identity is now in the public domain and police in Indian-administered Kashmir are neither owning up to his work nor disowning him.

The senior federal Intelligence Bureau official said: "This exposure will put Mukhtar and his family at great risk.

"Why should the Calcutta police leak his name to the press when we had told them categorically to keep shut on the entire Mumbai investigations?

"They thought they had a huge catch and they wanted publicity."

He said Calcutta police should have checked with Indian-administered Kashmir police once they arrested Mr Mukhtar.

"A high-value asset has been blown, a major operation has been screwed up," said the Intelligence Bureau official.

He said a SIM card recovered from the mobile of one of the Mumbai gunmen, called Ismail, was among those supplied to Lashkar by Mukhtar Ahmed.

"But it was only switched on once before the attack and hardly used because Ismail got into action and was killed by police soon after," the official said.

Mr Mukhtar and Tousif Ahmed, the Calcutta trader who procured the SIM cards for him, may be handed over to Mumbai police because they are wanted in connection with the attack.
Posted by: john frum || 12/09/2008 15:32 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ooooops
Posted by: Frank G || 12/09/2008 17:44 Comments || Top||

#2  The only solution to these kinds of problems is a new giant government agency to oversee cooperation between other giant government agencies.
Posted by: Mike N. || 12/09/2008 20:36 Comments || Top||


Mystery phone call put Pakistan and India on the brink of war
A mysterious night-time phone call brought nuclear India and Pakistan close to the brink of war at the height of the crisis over the Mumbai terror attacks last week, Pakistani officials said Sunday. They said the "threatening" call was made, ostensibly by India's foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee, to Pakistan's president, Asif Zardari, on Friday, November 28, two days into the Mumbai assaults, in which some 170 people died. India had, by then, declared that the militants who had stormed Mumbai were all from Pakistan.

The heated conversation left Zardari believing that India was about to mount an attack on Pakistan and led him to place Pakistan's armed forces onto "high alert," according to Wajid Hasan, Pakistan's ambassador to London, a close associate of Zardari. Given Pakistan's inferiority in conventional forces, it might not have been able to respond except with nuclear weapons to an Indian attack, analysts said. India, however, did not put its forces on the alert.

Zardari quickly mobilized Western leaders in an attempt to avert war, telephoning Condoleezza Rice, U.S. Secretary of State, and British foreign minister David Miliband, among others, who in turn frantically called India, Hasan said. Pakistani reporters who were briefed by the Indian Embassy in Islamabad said they were told that Rice telephoned Mukherjee in the middle of the night and demanded: "Why have you threatened war?"

According to those same sources, Mukherjee told Rice he made no such call or threat. Nevertheless, Rice, Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates rushed to the region.

Indian officials in New Delhi, who like other sources could not be identified by name because they were unauthorized to speak to the public, said they suspected the call had its origin in the Pakistan's own Inter Services Intelligence agency - suggesting a deliberate attempt to foment war between the two neighbors.

The news of the tension created by the mysterious "Indian" telephone call emerged as the Bush administration, in the face of growing pressures from India, put Islamabad on notice that it must clamp down on the Islamic militant groups accused of targeting India. According to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who flew to Pakistan after a visit to New Delhi, Indian officials are now threatening the use of force if Pakistan does not move swiftly to act against those responsible for the Mumbai assaults.

As if on cue, Pakistani security forces Sunday raided a camp used by members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, on the outskirts of Muzaffarabad, the provincial capital of Pakistan part of Kashmir. India had pinpointed the group as the outfit which carried on the attack on Mumbai, though it is only one of dozens of jihadist organizations active in Pakistan.

On Sunday, India lashed out at Pakistan over the phone call episode. It was "worrying that a neighboring state might even consider acting on the basis of such a hoax call," Mukherjee said in a statement. "I can only ascribe this series of events (the story of the call) to those in Pakistan who wish to divert attention from the fact that a terrorist group, operating from the Pakistani territory, planned and launched a ghastly attack on Mumbai," he added.

Pakistan's government insisted that the phone call came from a number in Indian's Ministry of External Affairs. Pakistan's ambassador in London said a caller ID system was used to identify the origins of the call. "They did it (made the call). It was not a hoax call but an instrument of psychological warfare. They were trying to scare Pakistan, test the waters for our reaction," Hasan said in an interview.

Hasan added that he had received information that India was "about to launch a very drastic action" on that Friday, and it was only intervention from Western leaders that averted it. To add to Pakistani injury, first news of the phone call was leaked to a select group of Pakistani journalists at a briefing given by the Indian embassy in Islamabad, in an apparent attempt to make Zardari's government look weak, according to reporters present and Pakistani officials.

It is unclear who actually made the call. Indian officials, who did not want to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue, theorized that Pakistan's ISI made the call by using technology to make it look like a number from India's foreign ministry. That suggests that the ISI, which is part of the military, was trying to break relations between the governments of the two countries, which had already been torn by the Mumbai assault, in order to leave Pakistan's military in charge.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/09/2008 11:39 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess the ISI and the Pakistani military forgot one little detail: One way or another, there wouldn't be anything left to be in charge of. Except perhaps for coordinating efforts to run away from terrorists.
Posted by: gorb || 12/09/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Does India have any kind of anti-ballistic missile defense?
I think now is the time to pitch them one if not.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/09/2008 13:40 Comments || Top||

#3  What the old saying? Something like it's better to be in charge in he11 than a servant in heaven?
Posted by: Bobby || 12/09/2008 13:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I have a hunch that WW4 will be started by a prank call from some wanker DJ.
Posted by: Grunter || 12/09/2008 14:14 Comments || Top||

#5  WW4 will be started by a prank call from some wanker DJ

That's funny in a tragic sort of way.

In the US v Soviets, ballistic missiles served as a deterent because the 30 minutes between launch and impact gave time to launch a counter strike. India and Pakistan are only a few minutes apart as the missile flies. Whoever gets in a good first punch gains a huge advantage. This not only makes for a fast-paced game, but allows events to quickly spiral out of control.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/09/2008 14:38 Comments || Top||

#6  I think Pakistan is forgetting they got their asses handed to them the last three times.

Their nukes are smaller and so is their country. India has bigger nukes and a much bigger country and infrastructure. Who do we think would win a nuclear exchange?
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/09/2008 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  "Hi, this is Moes President Zardari"
"Is Amanda there? Amanda Hugnkiss?"
"Lemme check"
"Is there Amanda Hugnkiss here? Hey everybody I want Amanda Hugnkiss!"


/Bart Simpson starting wars
Posted by: Frank G || 12/09/2008 14:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Zadari? Mukherjee. Do you have Prince Albert in a can?
What?
Well you better let him out or we'll nuke your sorry Pakistani asses!"
click
HAHAHAHAHAHA...Good one! Send Gul a case of scotch!
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/09/2008 15:23 Comments || Top||

#9  If there is a nucleur exchange between Paki and India we all loose. The only good thing that could come out of this would be for the world to once again see the total destruction of WMD's.
Posted by: bman || 12/09/2008 15:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Followed by unicorns and rainbows with every holding hands and singing Kumbia?

Sorry, ain't gonna happen.
I wish it would, but reality and human nature says otherwise.
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/09/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#11  ISI = Cancer. Remove it. Polonium works well as a pinpoint radiation treatment, but so does high velocity large caliber lead for a more general treatment.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/09/2008 18:17 Comments || Top||

#12  Pakistan has not been known to make too many decisions based on logic.
Posted by: darrylq || 12/09/2008 18:45 Comments || Top||

#13  The "WILLY versus NICKY LETTERS" [WW1] goes ICONNECT??

Gut Nuthin.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/09/2008 19:35 Comments || Top||

#14  If there is a nucleur exchange between Paki and India we all loose. The only good thing that could come out of this would be for the world to once again see the total destruction of WMD's.

Ummm...if the world can't stop Iran, NK & Syria (not to mention Brazil, South Africa & who-knows-who else) from secretly (and against agreements/treaties) developing nukes, what is your plan to stop them after all the other countries get rid of theirs??
Inquiring minds want to know...
Posted by: logi_cal || 12/09/2008 19:46 Comments || Top||


Pakistan seizes miltant blamed for Mumbai
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's security forces have arrested the operational chief of Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, the Islamic militant group that India says was behind the recent killings of more than 160 people in Mumbai.

Pakistani forces arrested Zakir Rehman Lakhvi and Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar during raids on Monday, Defense Minister Choudhry Mukhtar Ahmed told CNN's sister network in India, CNN-IBN. "President Asif Ali Zardari is determined that we must cooperate with India and we must take the people to task who have done thing, this operation," Ahmed said Tuesday.

More than a week after the Mumbai attacks, Pakistani security forces raided an LeT camp near Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, on Sunday, according to Pakistani military sources. It was the first sign of government action against Lashkar-e-Tayyiba since the attacks and came as Zardari vowed to crack down on "non-state actors" waging terrorism within its territory. Read more of Zardari's comments

Indian authorities say the sole surviving gunman in the Mumbai attacks told investigators that he was trained at an LeT camp near Muzaffarabad along with the nine other attackers who were killed in the three-day siege. A Pakistani security official said the terror raids on banned militant groups, including LeT, are ongoing and have resulted in at least 15 arrests.

According to the U.S. government, Lakhvi, 47, has directed LeT's military operations in southeast Asia, Chechnya, Bosnia and Iraq. "Lakhvi instructed LeT associates in 2006 to train operatives for suicide bombings," according to a U.S. government statement. "Prior to that, Lakhvi instructed LeT operatives to conduct attacks in well-populated areas." The United States has listed LeT as a terrorist group with ties to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.

Azhar is the founder of Jaish-e-Mohammed, which -- like LeT -- is based in Pakistan and fights against Indian rule in the disputed Kashmir region. Azhar is one of about 20 wanted militant leaders that India has demanded Pakistan turn over to New Delhi in the wake of the late November attacks on Mumbai. It has been demanding the extradition of some of those leaders since a 2001 attack on India's Parliament that brought the South Asian nuclear rivals to the brink of war.

The Pakistani defense minister called Azhar "a small irritant." Azhar has been in Pakistan since 1999, when he was released from an Indian prison in exchange for hostages aboard a hijacked Indian airliner.

Ahmed said Pakistan may allow India to interrogate the men under any joint investigation between India and Pakistan into the Mumbai attacks. "But if we don't have a joint investigation team then it will be the Pakistani side which will be grilling them and finding out what wrong they have done," he said.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/09/2008 10:56 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahmed said Pakistan may allow India to interrogate the men under any joint investigation between India and Pakistan into the Mumbai attacks. "But if we don't have a joint investigation team then it will be the Pakistani side which will be grilling them and finding out what wrong they have done," he said

Scared of any ISI/Govt complicity/knowledge coming out Ahmed????
Posted by: Paul2 || 12/09/2008 12:09 Comments || Top||

#2  As they say, one down, N to go!
Posted by: SteveS || 12/09/2008 12:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Unless this is a shielding move, effectively removing the middle ground option of local retaliation. "Now we have him and if you bomb him you bomb us and its war." Because Pakistan has been so good as to let outsiders question those they hold, India either takes it (hoping for a visit) and encourages more attacks or a conflict notches above air strikes.

The Pakistani defense minister called Azhar "a small irritant." Azhar has been in Pakistan since 1999, when he was released from an Indian prison in exchange for hostages aboard a hijacked Indian airliner.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/09/2008 12:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Put them in "protective custody", did they? Not a smart move. I think much of the world is getting tired of Pakistan's role in international terrorism.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/09/2008 12:46 Comments || Top||

#5  he'll be treated like AQ Khan
Posted by: sinse || 12/09/2008 21:16 Comments || Top||


Another 40 Nato supply vehicles torched in Peshawar
Forty more military vehicles were set on fire on Monday in yet another attack on Nato forces' logistics inside a transport terminal at Hazarkhwani, only a day after around 171 trucks of the allied troops fighting against the Taliban in Afghanistan were torched in Pishtakhara.

Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP), Peshawar, Kashif Alam, said six trailers and nine containers were torched in the incident.

Eyewitnesses and another senior officer, who requested anonymity, however, disagreed with his senior, saying 40 military vehicles of the Nato forces were destroyed and 10 others damaged in the blaze. The official said the figure did not include the damaged trucks.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Send in the EPA! The greenhouse gases released by this arson is completely unacceptable.
Posted by: Adriane || 12/09/2008 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  HMMMMMM...PRO-DETROIT, or ANTI-DETROIT???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/09/2008 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  DESTROIT....THINK DESTROIT, JOE.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2008 0:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Military equipment? Military security. Their only choice should be whether its our troops (wiht free-fire ROE) or theirs that secure things.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/09/2008 2:37 Comments || Top||

#5  sounds like your Pak sovereignty doesn't extend...er...anywhere, does it? Losers
Posted by: Frank G || 12/09/2008 6:59 Comments || Top||

#6  I think this event was sovereignty on steriods.....the Paks have sent us an unmistakable message.
Posted by: Sonny Ebbeamp1305 || 12/09/2008 8:04 Comments || Top||

#7  I don't want to tell them their business, but has NATO ever considered putting some armed guys with these convoys?
Just a thought, they are in PAKISTAN after all.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/09/2008 11:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Apparently not, bigjim. My guess is they're afraid it might offend somebody.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/09/2008 12:17 Comments || Top||

#9  So either the Pakis have a death wish ( not likely to occur due to the world wide epidemic of testicular atrophy) or their particular 48 hour clock hasn't wound down yet.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/09/2008 14:26 Comments || Top||


Five Mumbai attackers may be at large: NYT
Five terrorists involved in the Mumbai terror attacks may be still at large, the New York Times reported on Monday, citing evidence found on the trawler on which they travelled from Karachi to India's financial hub.

The newspaper report counters the Mumbai police, which claimed that there were only 10 terrorists in the vessel out of which nine were killed and one was arrested. "Based on evidence found on the trawler, it was possible that five other men were involved in the plot and were still at large," the New York Times said.

The report also said Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, the Lashkar-e-Taiba 'commander', was in Karachi for the last three months to help organise the terrorist attack in Mumbai.

The Mumbai attackers also kept in contact with their handlers in Pakistan with cell phones as they rounded up guests at the two hotels--Taj and Oberoi, it said, quoting a Pakistani official in contact with the terror outfit. The attackers left a trail of evidence in a satellite phone they left behind on the fishing trawler they hijacked near Karachi at the start of their 500-mile journey to Mumbai, the report said.

The phone contained the telephone numbers of Yousuf Muzammil, a Lashkar-e-Taiba militant, considered to be mastermind of the Mumbai attack, Rehman and a number of other Lashkar militants, the Times said, citing a report on the Mumbai siege prepared by MJ Gohel and Sajjan M Gohel, two security analysts who direct the Asia-Pacific Foundation in London.

The numbers dialled on the phone found on the trawler used to call Muzammil matched the numbers on the cell phones recovered from the Taj and Oberoi hotels, the New York Times.
This article starring:
Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Lashkar e-Taiba

#1  With so many phone calls, the operation seems to have been micro-managed in a "Jimmy Carter Iran embassy hostages rescue" fashion.
Posted by: Darrell || 12/09/2008 20:51 Comments || Top||


Jaish chief confined to his headquarters
The Pakistani authorities have placed restrictions on the movement of Maulana Masood Azhar, the chief of the outlawed Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), by confining him to his multi-storeyed concrete compound in the Model Town area of Bahawalpur.

Well-placed official sources say Masood Azhar's activities have been restricted in the wake of the Indian government's recent demand to hand him over to New Delhi.

Adviser on Interior Rehman Malik said in Islamabad last week that India has given to Pakistan a list of three persons--Maulana Masood Azhar, Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon--for their immediate extradition.

Official sources say India has sought the arrest and extradition of Masood Azhar while citing a 1989 agreement signed by the director-general of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and the director-general of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) which binds both the agencies to collaborate with each other, to trace out the most wanted terrorists and criminals and hand them over to their respective counterpart.

Maulana Masood Azhar is wanted by the Indian CBI for his alleged involvement in the 2001 attacks on Indian parliament which brought the two nuclear-armed South Asian neighbours to the brink of war. As a matter of fact, it is not for the first time that his movements have been restricted by the Pakistani authorities. Every time the Indian government demands his extradition, he is confined to his under-construction headquarters in Bahawalpur. Azhar had been serving time in an Indian jail for Kashmir-related militancy but had to be released by the Indian government in 2000 in exchange for passengers of an Indian airplane which had been hijacked by some Kashmiri militants and taken to Kabul. Soon after his release, he discarded the Harkatul Mujahideen (HuM) to launch the Jaish-e-Mohammad.

Since then, having gone through many ups and downs, especially in the wake of the 2001 attack on the Indian parliament and the 2003 suicide attacks on Gen Musharraf in Rawalpindi, the Jaish had been renamed as Khudamul Islam (KuI) and reorganised under the command of Mufti Abdul Rauf, the younger brother of Masood Azhar. The State Department had designated the Jaish as a foreign terrorist organisation in December 2001, making the Musharraf regime slap a ban on the outfit in January 2002. December 29, 2001 was the only time Masood Azhar was formally arrested by the Pakistani authorities following the parliament attacks. However, a three-member review board of the Lahore High Court ordered his release on Dec 14, 2002.

The second time he had to face the wrath of the establishment was in 2003 in the aftermath of the Rawalpindi suicide attacks on Musharraf, after it transpired that Mohammad Jamil, one of the two suicide attackers who tried to assassinate the first commando president of Pakistan, belonged to the Jaish. However, Masood tried to clear his position by maintaining that the bomber had already defected to the Jaish's dissident group--Jamaatul Furqaan, led by Maulana Abdul Jabbar alias Maulana Umar Farooq. However, the Maulana from Bahawalpur soon fell out of favour with the establishment in the wake of American allegations about his al-Qaeda links and because of the US belief that he, along with some other Jihadi leaders, had been providing logistical support to fugitive al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders.

As a matter of fact, following the January 2002 kidnapping and the subsequent murder of American journalist Daniel Pearl by Sheikh Ahmed Saeed Omar, close aide of Masood Azhar, the Americans had sought the custody of the Jaish chief, saying the US Department of Justice wanted to file charges against him for his involvement in the hijacking of Indian Airlines flight IC-814 (with an American citizen Jeanne Moore aboard). The American authorities had claimed that under the American law, they had the right to investigate crimes against their citizens committed anywhere in the world.

However, the Musharraf regime had turned down the US demand, saying he was not a hijacker and his incarceration in India had been illegal.

"Otherwise, he would have been tried and convicted by the Indian courts while he was behind bars." In other words, Masood Azhar could not be accused of any crime.
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Jaish-e-Mohammad

#1  "Azhar had been serving time in an Indian jail for Kashmir-related militancy but had to be released by the Indian government in 2000 in exchange for passengers of an Indian airplane which had been hijacked by some Kashmiri militants and taken to Kabul."

I’m no international diplomat but here’s a thought. The whole “Prisoner for Hostage exchange” thingey always seems to come with a downside. And, more often then not, it’s when the exchanges include Jihadists with innocent blood up to their armpits. Just sayin…
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/09/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#2  You know, if the man is head of an 'outlawed' organization, shouldn't his hairy ass be inside of a prison cell? What's the fudging point in outlawing an organization if you aren't going to drop the organizers into a nice, dank oubliette?

I mean, hell, we didn't actually ban the CP-USA, and Gus Hall still spent a half-dozen years in the clink.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 12/09/2008 14:33 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Curfew in Talafar
Aswat al-Iraq: Security forces in Talafar on Monday imposed a curfew on the suburb after receiving reports about two booby-trapped cars, according to a security source. "Security forces conducted wide-range search operations in Talafar (60 km to the west of Mosul), aiming at finding the two cars," the source told Aswat al-Iraq. He did not mention further details.
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Southeast Asia
Philippines: Troops clash with Abu Sayyaf in south
(AKI) - Security forces were fighting Islamist militants on two fronts in the southern Philippines on Monday, after 24 soldiers were killed and 16 others were wounded in conflict at the weekend. Soldiers fought battled militants from the separatist Abu Sayyaf where the government forces is trying to defeat the group blamed for a spate of deadly attacks that have left hundreds of people dead in the past 20 years.

Lt. Steffani Cacho, a spokesperson for the Philippines Western Mindanao Command headquarters, said conflict erupted early on Sunday between marines and militants in the town of Talipao in Sulu province. An hour later, hostilities also broke out in the nearby province of Basilan.

Cacho said five soldiers were killed and 25 others were wounded in fighting in the town of Al-Barka in Basilan, where 14 soldiers had been beheaded early this year. The injured included an air force pilot whose OV-10 light bomber was hit but a co-pilot managed to land it safely in nearby Zamboanga city, she said.

Fighting also was reported on nearby Jolo island, where an additional 11 troops were wounded, she said.

The Abu Sayyaf is one of several groups of Islamist militants based in the south of the country and is demanding the creation of an autonomous Muslim region. Believed to be linked to Al-Qaeda, it has carried out a string of high-profile kidnappings and attacks, including the 2004 firebombing of a ferry in Manila Bay that killed more than 100 people.
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Abu Sayyaf


Terror Networks
Hamid Gul linked to banned al Qaeda WMD advisory group
A former leader of Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence agency has been implicated as serving on the board of a proscribed non-governmental organization that advised al Qaeda and the Taliban on the development of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

Lieutenant General (Retired) Hamid Gul served on the board of the Umma Tameer-E-Nau, an organization founded by Pakistani nuclear scientists and industrialists, according to a secret dossier that the United States has put together to present to the United Nations Security Council, The News reported. Gul has also been implicated in supporting the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban, the Haqqani Network, al Qaeda, and other extremist groups.

Gul served as the chief of the ISI from 1987 to 1989. Gul is known as the Godfather of the Taliban for his efforts to organize the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, and the helping to facilitate the rise of the Taliban in the 1990s. Gul supports the terrorist insurgency in India-occupied Kashmir and opposes the US-led effort to defeat Islamic extremism.

more at link
Posted by: 3dc || 12/09/2008 01:14 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Must be the most important/influential anti west figure in Pakistan and that takes some strong competition!!!!
Posted by: Paul2 || 12/09/2008 12:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Never mind the small talk, just give us hiis coordinates. We'll send a special delivery right away.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 12/09/2008 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  We won't do jack sh*t.
We'll probably hand over our yearly check for $1Billion to Pakistan in the next month or so.
We should be firing a ballistic missile at them instead.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/09/2008 13:55 Comments || Top||



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