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Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nice set of spoons on that babe!
Posted by: SteveS || 07/10/2009 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  It that what you're calling tatas them these days, Steve? ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2009 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Well you can choke me with a....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/10/2009 0:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Double Exposure



Extra, Extra

Jihad, Jihad

Gam, Gam

Bang, Bang

Mirror, Mirror

Nightie Night, Nightie Night

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 07/10/2009 3:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Happy Birthday July 10th

Sue Lyon - 63 "Lolita"

Then

Now?

Jake LaMotta - 88 "Raging Bull"

Then

Now
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 07/10/2009 3:56 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Marines Not Winning Hearts And Minds In Helmand - Set Your BS Meter To HIGH
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 07/10/2009 11:38 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It really surprises me sometimes that some brave lions of islamb can be cowed into submission so easily. I mean why didn't the just kill the mercans with there special islamb powers? Notice the one guy said he would martyr himself for islamb? He had a perfect chance, alan must be disappointed.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/10/2009 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The Pushtun version of Letters to Penthouse. Euro lefties just love getting off to this stuff.
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2009 13:25 Comments || Top||


Marines Afghanistan Operation Strike Of The Sword [Raw Footage]
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 07/10/2009 05:14 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I like the use of attack dogs. They are perfect for that kind of war.
Posted by: Spike Gramp9390 || 07/10/2009 13:05 Comments || Top||

#2  FREEREPUBLIC Artic on this is NOT KIND on the Bammer as per ROES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/10/2009 23:01 Comments || Top||


Taliban commander Fayyaz among three nabbed
[Geo News] Police in Nosehra has claimed capturing alleged Taliban commander Fayyaz along his two brothers, seizing heavy armaments from their possession, Geo news reported on Friday morning.

According police sources, heavily armed police troops raided a house located in Hoti Khel area of Nosehra Qila, arresting alleged Taliban commander Fayyaz along his two other brothers while following raid, police also recovered explosives weighing 25 kilogram hand grenades and local bombs during search operation.

DSP Aziz Khan told media the arrested alleged Taliban commander has carried out several terrorist strikes, police sources added.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Excellent news!
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2009 5:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Several terrorist strikes? The man is nothing more than an emir, a group leader.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2009 21:09 Comments || Top||


Afghan truck blast claims childrens lives: Police
[Al Arabiya Latest] An overturned truck rigged with explosives blew up near Kabul on Thursday, killing 25 people including many school students in one of the deadliest blasts this year in war-torn Afghanistan, police said.

Loaded with firewood, the truck overturned overnight about 30 kilometers (19 miles) south of the capital in Logar province and exploded as authorities were trying to remove the vehicle in the early morning, they said.

The attack comes as Western militaries boost their troop deployments to Afghanistan ahead of key presidential and provincial council elections scheduled for August 20. "In the explosion today 21 civilians and four policemen have been martyred," provincial police chief Ghulam Mustafa Mohsini told AFP.

School children dead
" The civilians include school students and male elders. Four others including three students and one civilian man have been wounded "
Ghulam Mustafa Mohsini, police
At least 13 of those killed were children from a nearby school, said Kamaluddin Zadran, a provincial official "The civilians include school students and male elders. Four others including three students and one civilian man have been wounded," he said.

The students were struck as they were going to area schools -- the first educates pupils aged nine to 12 years old and the second students aged between 16 and 18, locals said.

Some of the children who died in the explosion were believed to be aged 10 to 12 years. Police said some bodies were burned beyond recognition.

The interior ministry in Kabul gave the same death toll. "A total of 25 people have been killed and four are wounded including three children," ministry spokesman Zemarai Bashary told AFP. "Police went in the morning to see and open the road. As police arrived at the scene the truck exploded and unfortunately killed 21 civilians and four policemen."

The blast created a large crater in the ground and caused widespread damage, he said. It was not clear if the truck was headed to the capital to carry out an attack or had been intended to explode where it did, the official said. "We don't know at this stage. There was no driver in the morning with the truck. We are still investigating the issue," he said.

The governor of Mohammad Agha district, where the explosion took place, said 12 bodies were initially identified and that most of them were school students. "We are still trying to recover bodies from under the debris of collapsed shops. There are more people dead," said the official, Abdul Hameed Hamid.

" It seems that the explosives were remotely detonated as a crowd gathered around the truck in the morning "
Din Mohammad Darwish, govt spokesman
Hamid said it appeared the truck was deliberately overturned in time to explode as authorities arrived.

Three shops were totally destroyed and windows smashed up to one kilometer (half-mile) away from the explosion, he said. The blast took place on a main road from southern and eastern Afghanistan that heads into the capital Kabul. The truck was heading towards Kabul, said provincial government spokesman Din Mohammad Darwish. "It seems that the explosives were remotely detonated as a crowd gathered around the truck in the morning," he said.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  One person says that 25 people have been "martyred", another said they've been "killed". Why won't anyone stand up and say the truth, that 25 people, including 13 young children, were coldly and deliberately MURDERED. There is only one place for anyone that commits such an attrocity, and that's in a 2x6x6 hole in the ground, without coffin or wrappings.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/10/2009 11:37 Comments || Top||


Helmand Offensive Aims to Cut Militants Supply Routes (Video)
[Quqnoos] Afghan Defence Ministry highlighting Helmand province a key Taliban stronghold, says Operation Khanjar focuses to disturb supply routes of Taliban
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


China-Japan-Koreas
Riot-torn Chinese state under firm army control
[Bangla Daily Star] China's leaders vowed yesterday to severely punish those responsible for bloodshed in the nation's far northwest that left at least 156 people dead and exposed deep ethnic tensions.

The warning came as riot police and soldiers maintained a firm grip on Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang region where Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese faced off this week in China's worst ethnic conflict for decades.

"The planners of the incident, the organisers, key members and the serious violent criminals must be severely punished," President Hu Jintao and the other eight members of the ruling Communist Party's elite Politburo said.

Local party leaders in Urumqi had on Wednesday warned that people involved in any killings would be sentenced to death, and earlier announced that more than 1,400 people had been arrested for their involvement in the unrest.

But the Politburo statement, released on Thursday after it met on Wednesday night, was the first comment from China's top leaders on the mayhem since it erupted on Sunday.

Hu was forced to abandon a visit to Italy for the Group of Eight leaders' summit and return to China to deal with the situation, in what observers said was an unprecedented move that illustrated the severity of the crisis.

The first comments from the nation's political leadership about the bloodshed came as tentative signs of normality returned to Urumqi, a city of 2.3 million people.

Thousands of baton-wielding riot police and armed soldiers were still in the city, but their numbers were far fewer than in previous days.

Urumqi's mayor said late Wednesday the city was back under control, after thousands of Han Chinese roamed the streets vowing vengeance and to defend themselves in response to the initial violence authorities blamed on Uighurs.

There were no signs of the vigilantes, many of whom had been carrying poles, shovels and other makeshift weapons, and public buses as well as taxis were again plying the city's main thoroughfares.

In one of the more symbolic examples of a city trying to heal, security forces ended their main partition of Han Chinese and Muslim Uighur districts.

But even though more shops had also re-opened after a three-day government-mandated business closure, many were still shuttered and residents remained extremely doubtful that normal life would resume any time soon.

"How can it return to normal with so many soldiers," said a Han woman surnamed Li in central Urumqi.

And the big bazaar in the main Uighur district remained shut, with Uighurs saying the closure was another example of the different rules they have to live by compared with the Han Chinese.

"They said we could re-open after three days. But today is the fourth day and they are not letting us open," said a clothing shop owner.

Xinjiang's eight million Uighurs have long complained about discrimination and repression under Chinese rule, and exiled leaders said those pent-up feelings of persecution led to Sunday's protests.

Soldiers and riot police had poured into the city after thousands of Uighurs began demonstrating. The protests turned violent with Uighurs attacking Han, and security forces cracking down.

The government said 156 people died in the unrest and most of those people were victims of the rioters, but exiled Uighur leaders say up to 800 may have been killed and security forces were responsible for many deaths.

Many here remained fearful about the future.

"It is good to be able to open today," said a relieved Han Chinese camera shop owner in central Urumqi surnamed Ma.

"It is much more calm today. But... I don't know about what will happen in the future. We are just going to have to wait and see. We hope it is going to return to normal."
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Must be bad if Hu missed out on all that wine and cheese and having his picture taken with legitimate, elected leaders almost as if he's legitimate too. I'd say the Chicoms ought to leave that region to the Muslim Uighurs but they all probably deserve each other.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 07/10/2009 12:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I can't support nationalist claims of muslim parts of China, because their cult denies nationalism. Sorry but I'm looking the other way in this issue.
Posted by: Spike Gramp9390 || 07/10/2009 13:07 Comments || Top||


Europe
PKK bomb attack kills civilian in Turkey
[Iran Press TV Latest] A Turkish civilian has been killed in a blast carried out by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) militants in Turkey's eastern province of Siirt. The explosion took place at Gorendoruk Village in the Eruh town of Siirt province late on Wednesday, the Turkish military said, Xinhua reported.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Swat Taliban chief 'near death'
The leader of Taliban militants in Pakistan's Swat district has been critically wounded and is close to death, the BBC has learned.
But not actually dead.
The information about Maulana Fazlullah confirms statements from senior government and security officials. The information about Maulana Falzullah was gathered from interviews carried out by the BBC in his heartland in the north-west of Pakistan. "Maulana Fazlullah was actually hit in two air strikes, and is critically wounded," Mingora resident Wasif Ali - who did not disclose his real name for personal security reasons - told the BBC on Wednesday during a trip to Swat. "He is now stranded in Imam Dehri without any access to medical assistance and is close to death."
So the sepsis dance is working!
Mr Ali has close contacts with the militants and has been keeping a close watch on their movements in the area. He confirmed that another senior Taliban leader, Shah Duran, was also killed in an air strike as earlier stated by the army.
Most excellent!
Interviews with other locals corroborated claims that Maulana Fazlullah had been seriously injured.
"Oh,yeah. It wuz terrible. You shoulda seen it."
Earlier on Wednesday, Pakistan's top military spokesman, Maj General Athar Abbas said that Maulana Fazlullah had been hurt in an airstrike. "But we cannot confirm his exact condition at the moment," he said.

Maulana Fazlullah used to be a prayer leader at the mosque in his village. He became the most powerful man in Swat after using a radio station to broadcast his messages in the area.
Unlike other transmitters, that one simply could not be located, not to within 100 miles...
Eventually he called for his version of Islamic law in the region. At the height of his power, his militants became the main law enforcers in Swat. In April, Pakistan's army launched an operation against his forces following the violation of a peace deal with the government. Currently, Swat's urban centres are being strictly patrolled by the military.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/10/2009 16:39 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Okay, where do I send the condolence package of Jimmy Dean Pork Sausage?
Posted by: Jomoper Protector of the Pixies6946 || 07/10/2009 16:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Let it be gangrene.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/10/2009 17:01 Comments || Top||

#3  "He is now stranded in Imam Dehri without any access to medical assistance and is close to death."

Poor guy. In this case I dont think universal health care is a policy priority.
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 17:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh dear, liberal hawk. I didn't expect that!
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2009 17:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Health care rationing may be necessary to limit costs.

I think many stakeholders would agree this is a good place to start :-)
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 17:31 Comments || Top||

#6  good news. Die, bastard. Slowly and painfully. No raisins virgins for you!

/Soup Soul Nazi
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2009 19:11 Comments || Top||

#7  It's not necessarily a bad thing if Fazlullah's death occurs in increments. First in the toes, then feet, lower leg, upper leg, hips, naughty bits, bowels, bladder, lower intestine, upper intestine ...

Well the smell might be pretty bad, but it helps attract carrion eaters mourners.
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2009 19:58 Comments || Top||

#8  "Swat Taliban chief 'near death'"

Not near enough.

Hope it's painful. Say hello to your buddies in HELL - soon.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2009 21:36 Comments || Top||

#9  Miracle Max: He probably owes you money huh? I'll ask him.
Inigo Montoya: He's dead. He can't talk.
Miracle Max: Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.
Inigo Montoya: What's that?
Miracle Max: Go through his clothes and look for loose change.
Posted by: gromky || 07/10/2009 21:58 Comments || Top||

#10  "Oh,yeah. It wuz terrible. You shoulda seen it."

Maybe offer a reward for some grainy cellphone video footage of it in case someone thought to record it?

"But we cannot confirm his exact condition at the moment,"

Horizontal for the most part, hopefully alternating between face-up and face-down on account of he can't decide which is less painful.
Posted by: gorb || 07/10/2009 23:42 Comments || Top||


Kasab trained by Pak marines: Report
NEW DELHI: Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab, the lone captured terrorist for the audacious Mumbai terror attack, was trained by Pakistan marines, an elite unit of the Pakistan Navy.

In its latest issue, The Week quoting Kasab's interrogation report by an intelligence agency said he and nine others who struck Mumbai last November were taught combat techniques by the Pakistan marines after being extensively trained by the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) at its various camps.

The report said the terrorists underwent crash courses in surveillance, reading topographical maps, sniping positions, urban warfare and kidnapping.

The magazine also said Kasab's interrogators think that the terrorists could in "all possibility" have done a recce of the targets in Mumbai much ahead of 26/11.

It said that a senior Research and Analysis Wing officer had said that Ismail, the leader of the pack, did the recce with the help of local elements.

Kasab told the interrogators that he and his comrades were taken to sea briefly in the initial stages of the intensive training programme.

"The acclimatisation drills continued for two months in two separate installments. Nautical miles increased in time. And at a later stage, they were taught the specialised techniques in a 'built up' pool," the magazine said in a statement.
Posted by: john frum || 07/10/2009 10:58 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No surprise the mighty Pak army wanted a reason to stop chasing/fighting their allies the Taliban and Concentrate on the Eastern flank instead by provoking India.

However this has backfired since!
Posted by: Paul2 || 07/10/2009 12:50 Comments || Top||


Fazlullah aide arrested in Swat
Security forces have arrested an aide of Maulana Fazlullah -- the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief in Swat -- from the valley, a private TV channel quoted unidentified officials as saying on Thursday. According to the channel, Akbar Hussain was arrested from the Dargai area of the restive valley. Hussain has a head money of Rs 2 million and is said to be among the 15 Taliban most wanted by the government. He is also one of several deputies of the TTP chief in Swat.
This article starring:
Akbar HussainTTP
Maulana FazlullahTTP
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Two passengers offloaded from flight to Dubai
[Geo News]
Several influential personalities have phoned airport administration to force them for their release.
Two passengers were forced to get off-boarded from a flight of a foreign airline bound to Dubai here at Jinnah international airport late on Friday, Geo news exclusively reported. According to sources, a person by the name Hussain was barred from leaving Pakistan during the checking of documents and it is suspected that police wanted the offloaded passenger. They were accompanied by their five other associates on flight, sources added but the exact reason of their off-boarding could not be ascertained thus far however the concerned dignitaries have not released them so far, sources confirmed. Several influential personalities have phoned airport administration to force them for their release, sources revealed.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  "a person by the name Hussain"

Good thing he's got an unusual name so he was easy to spot.

Oh, wait....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2009 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  They were accompanied by their five other associates on flight

Were the associates also off-boarded, did they choose get off with Hussein out of comradely feeling, or did they continue on to Dubai?
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2009 13:39 Comments || Top||


Lashkar take positions to bar militants' influx in Dir
[Geo News] The armed national lashkar have taken positions in Dir with a view to bar the entry of militants while they have also ceased the areas for Taliban slipping into Dir through Swat here on Thursday, Geo news reported.

Due to continuous operation in Swat, the militants tried to occupy areas of Khushal Patay and Aasman Shah located in tehsil Adizai of lower Dir following which, an armed lashkar comprising 1000 local men was constituted to confront Taliban.

Geo news team approached the checkpoints of lashker covering half hour journey on foot in order to meet the local armed men who have voluntarily devoted themselves to fight against Taliban while they have not been backed by any government's assistance in their fight.

They have formed forty-five checkpoints at the height of 6000 feet from sea level on the sky-high mountains, Geo news team confirmed.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Pakistan jets bomb Taliban hideouts
[Iran Press TV Latest] Pakistani jets attack suspected Taliban hideouts in the Orakzai region, in South Waziristan, killing 22 militants and 16 civilians.

The hideouts in the Taliban-controlled region of Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) are said to have links with Tehrik-e-Taliban Leader Baitullah Mehsud.

The Thursday shelling on the militant hideouts came a day after several other suspected hideouts were struck by two US drone attacks, UPI reported.

Mehsud carries a five-million-dollar US bounty on his head as an al-Qaeda facilitator. He is also believed to be behind dozens of attacks on government and civilian targets in Pakistan over the past two years.

Pakistani government and CIA officials suspect Mehsud was responsible for the assassination of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto in December 2007.

US military officials accuse Mehsud of providing suicide bombers for insurgent attacks against US, NATO and Afghan targets in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  killing 22 militants and 16 civilians.

Certainly better than if US had attacked - we'd have killed 38 civilians. Oh, and a whole lot of bunnies.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/10/2009 7:23 Comments || Top||

#2  FOX NEWS/WAFF > PAKISTAN SAYS TALIBAN COMMANDER MAY WANT TO TALK WITH THE USA [Mullah Omar]???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/10/2009 19:28 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Twin suicide bombings kill more than 34 in Iraq
[Al Arabiya Latest] Two suicide bombers blew themselves up in northern Iraq on Thursday, killing at least 34 people in the deadliest attack since U.S. forces pulled out of towns and cities nationwide just over a week ago.

The bombers targeted two brothers working for Iraqi security forces in Tal Afar in an attack against a building used as a court annex to interrogate suspects in "terrorist attacks," police colonel Khaled Omar told AFP.

They blew themselves up minutes apart around 7.30am (0430 GMT), with the second explosion engulfing civilians who had gathered to help victims of the first blast, a security official said.

Dr Fathi Yassin at Tal Afar hospital said 34 people were killed and 61 wounded in the attack, which came a day after two car bombs exploded in the main northern city of Mosul, killing 12 people and wounding dozens more.

Neither of the two brothers targeted by the Tal Afar bombers were killed, the security official said, but police and hospital sources said the casualties included women and children.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


US to resettle 1,350 Iraqi-Palestinian refugees
[Jerusalem Post Middle East] The US State Department confirmed Tuesday that as many as 1,350 Iraqi Palestinians - once well-treated guests of Saddam Hussein and now estranged from Iraqi society - will be resettled in the US, mostly in southern California, starting this fall, the Christian Science Monitor reported.

It will be the largest-ever resettlement of Palestinian refugees into the US - and welcome news to the Palestinians who fled to Iraq after 1948, but who have had a tough time since Hussein was ousted in 2003. Targeted by Iraqi Shi'ites, the Palestinians, mostly Sunni Muslims, have spent recent years in one of the region's roughest refugee camps, Al Waleed, near Iraq's border with Syria in the west.

"Really for the first time, the United States is recognizing a Palestinian refugee population that could be admitted to the US as part of a resettlement program," Bill Frelick, refugee policy director at Human Rights Watch in Washington told CSM.

Considering that the US in the past was reluctant to resettle Palestinians - only seven were accepted in 2007 and only nine in 2008 - the effort could become a point of contention between Israel and the US.

For many in the State Department and international community, the resettlement is part of a moral imperative the US has to clean up the refugee crisis created by invading Iraq. The US has already stepped up resettlement of Iraqis, some whom have struggled to adjust to life in America.

The resettlement of Iraqi Palestinians is "an important gesture for the United States to demonstrate that we're not heartless," Alon Ben-Meir, a professor of international relations and Middle Eastern studies at New York University told the publication.

But some critics say the State Department is sloughing off its problems onto American cities, especially since in this case the Palestinians were sympathizers of the Iraqi tyrant.

"This is politically a real hot potato," said Mark Krikorian, director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, adding, "America has become a dumping ground for the State Department's problems - they're tossing their problems over their head into Harrisburg, Pa., or Omaha, Neb."
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mor to help california along. Pure genius.
Posted by: newc || 07/10/2009 0:14 Comments || Top||

#2  ...a bankrupt, now POW state?
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/10/2009 0:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Refugees? Since 1948? Incredible! If Obama wants to play this game, what about the mass-millions who became refugees in 1945 & after, resulting from Russian communist invasions, forced 'resettlement' & Soviet enslavement?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2009 5:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Promise them jobs did he?
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/10/2009 7:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Will the sons and daughters of Silisian Germans, ethnically cleansed by the Poles and Soviets from their ancestral lands in the same time period, get a freebee to immigrate to the US beyond the quotas?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/10/2009 7:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Attention Paleos...Barry is set'n you up! Seismic activity in California picking up dramatically in the last 24 hours.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/10/2009 8:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Pro: I know a guy whose family were refugees from East Prussia. We *did* take in those refugees, those that didn't want to stay in West Germany.

This Palestinian crap, on the other hand, is for the birds. Even if the aspiring terrorist percentage is as low as five percent, that's still a hell of a lot of chaos to be buying. Look at that asshole who killed those recruiters in Arkansas - the FBI was all over him like white on rice, and he still managed to kill people.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/10/2009 9:11 Comments || Top||

#8  This can't end well.
Posted by: Don Vito Crolutle2068 || 07/10/2009 9:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Middle of the Mojave, is it? Well, they'll feel right at home in that stinking desert, I suppose.
Posted by: mojo || 07/10/2009 10:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Saddam Hussein used his pet Palestinians (and they pretty much were his personal property) as enforcers. This is why, along with the special privileges he gave them by taking from individual Iraqis, they were universally loathed. Recall, after the 2003 invasion, the entire Palestinian community ended up huddled in a football stadium in Baghdad while they awaited permission to escape to Syria or wherever. These are not civilized people deserving our succor, but vicious beasts who would fit in beautifully in Gaza... except they probably haven't any welcoming cousins there.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2009 13:46 Comments || Top||

#11  I dunno, TW, sounds like they took advantage of privileges they were offered by a tyrant, in what was for them a difficult position. Its not human nature to turn down privileges like that, and in the case of Saddams Iraq, it would have been dangerous. I've read enough Jewish history to know that Jews in the middle ages and later were quick to accept the protection of a king or nobles, and often in return to do their dirty work.

I think getting these people out of the ME is probably a good idea. They are less dangerous to us here, and more likely to be turned into entrepreneurs and otherwise useful citizens in the US than anywhere else in the world.

Of COURSE they should be watched for terrorists in their midst.
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 13:52 Comments || Top||

#12  I am with Trailing Wife of this one. These guys were among Saddam's most loyal enforcers. After Saddam's fall they almost all became part of the "insurgency" including AQI.

To let them in is complete madness. We might as well let bin Laden settle in Southern California.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 07/10/2009 13:53 Comments || Top||

#13  id rather bin laden settled in Brooklyn. I think that would eliminate the problem pretty quickly.
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 13:56 Comments || Top||

#14  I think getting these people out of the ME is probably a good idea. They are less dangerous to us here

boggle
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2009 14:17 Comments || Top||

#15  Where do you think they will go? Jordan? Lebanon? All places where they are destabilizing.

Here they will just meld into the larger muslim immigrant community and get caught up in making money.

yeah, I really think US society is more effective at making groups less dangerous than anything else, short of prison (which they apparently arent go to)
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 15:07 Comments || Top||

#16  Frank G., you must be one of the few people here with a functioning boggle. The Magic Blue Smoke® escaped from mine long ago.
Posted by: Angeck Barnsmell4965 || 07/10/2009 15:09 Comments || Top||

#17  Why do I have a feeling that when they do come here and ensconce themselves in the Californian life, they will still call themselves refugees.

And there'll be plenty of folks who will agree with them.
Posted by: Rawsnacks || 07/10/2009 15:21 Comments || Top||

#18  liberal hawk, you harbor a touching confidence in American exceptionalism. I can't say my faith in the transubstantive powers of an American green card is nearly as strong as yours is. Part of what has made the American Muslim immigrant community so relatively benign in comparison with European counter-examples has been the effect of voluntary selection - they chose to come here. Those that didn't do so - such as the Somali refugees settled in the upper Midwest in the Nineties - have had an unusually high incidence of Sudden Jihad Syndrome compared to, oh, say, the Dearborn or Toledo or Lorrain communities.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/10/2009 15:34 Comments || Top||

#19  You don't take a hateful viper to your chest and *not* expect to get bitten - and this is a poisionous viper.

If anything this will 'poison' the muslim population and make things worse.

What about the Iraqi translators, interpreters, and others who helped us out? Are they still on the sh*t list?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/10/2009 16:03 Comments || Top||

#20  They should be settled around Bill Frelick's house, in whatever state he lives in.
Posted by: Bob || 07/10/2009 16:27 Comments || Top||

#21  "liberal hawk, you harbor a touching confidence in American exceptionalism. "

I confess I do.

I also guess, I am biased here. I am thinking that a dude here who goes sudden jihad syndrome, grabs a gun and kills one lady at a Jewish center. Or falls for some FBI outreach. In the ME he puts on a suicide belt and kills a hundred.
Posted by: liberal hawk || 07/10/2009 17:05 Comments || Top||

#22  liberal hawk does have a point. Nonetheless, I'm glad they aren't mostly being resettled in my part of the world. Mitch, in Dearborn they sponsor an orphan child through Hamas, Hizb'allah or that Green something organization in Pakistan -- the boys' school whose British-born headmaster suddenly disappeared for points unknown. Which means, as liberal hawk points out, someone becomes a suicide-wallah "out there" and kills many, rather than grabbing a gun to kill a few Americans.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2009 17:25 Comments || Top||

#23  LH - let em resettle with you if you're so sure of their melting-pot status. These were the bastards Saddam used as his own "Basiji". F*ck em. Let the Iraqis deal with them in their own vengeful way. Perhaps it would persuade the next round of Paleos/Hamas/Hezb mercenaries from shipping out to work for the Mullahs
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2009 19:16 Comments || Top||

#24  I suppose this is being payed for with US tax dollars? I remember a bill pass a while ago to fud this. Great, we are paying travel for the terrorists...
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/10/2009 21:32 Comments || Top||

#25  I am thinking that a dude here who goes sudden jihad syndrome, grabs a gun and kills one lady at a Jewish center. Or falls for some FBI outreach. In the ME he puts on a suicide belt and kills a hundred.

Ah yes - the 'acceptable level of violence' school.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/10/2009 22:01 Comments || Top||

#26  This is crazy, lunatism.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 07/10/2009 22:07 Comments || Top||

#27  'the acceptable level of violence' in your neighborhood. We have enough Somalis, Saudis, etc (Chaldeans seem to be a welcome exception) that demand their own cultural rights upon touching down. We've had enough. My point is, they can f*ck off and enjoy the consequences of their behavior...OVER THERE. Or LH can accept them in HIS home
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2009 22:16 Comments || Top||

#28  Give all of them a one way ticket to Alaska. Honestly, if every single person in Gaza moved to Alaska in September, Israel would be better off right away, and all of the Gazans that survived to April would have learned to be polite to their neighbors.
Posted by: rammer || 07/10/2009 23:14 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Police informant gunned down in southern Thailand
A Muslim man was killed in a drive-by shooting in the troubled province of Pattani Friday afternoon, and top security officials met to assess their operation to tackle violence in the restive southern border provinces.

Wanrho Srang, a police informant, was gunned down by two terrorists presumed insurgents as he left his home in the provincial seat for prayers at a mosque. The gunmen shot the victim in the head and torso and immediately left the scene, said Pol. Col. Manus Siksamst, superintendent of police in Pattani municipality. According to the initial investigation, the victim was a police informer and while the motive for the killing is not definitely known.
Hummmm, now let me think....
Meanwhile, Lt-Gen. Pichet Wisaijorn, Commander of the Fourth Army Region, met with special task force and security unit chiefs to assess measures against the violence in the three troubled provinces. He said that jihad insurgency in the three southern border provinces is complicated and needs integrated measures to improve current situations. Lt-Gen. Pichet instructed a proactive strategy which focuses on preventing unrest and local development to reduce the ongoing violence. Gen. Pichet said that security teams continued working in small units to reach local residents in their communities.
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#1  Mahmoud's cousin?
Posted by: mojo || 07/10/2009 10:35 Comments || Top||


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Thousands protest in Iran, defying crackdown vow
Thousands of protesters streamed down avenues of the capital Thursday, chanting "death to the dictator" and defying security forces who fired tear gas and charged with batons, witnesses said. The first opposition foray into the streets in 11 days aimed to revive mass demonstrations that were crushed in Iran's postelection turmoil.

Iranian authorities had promised tough action to prevent the marches, which supporters of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi have been planning for days in Internet messages. Heavy police forces deployed at key points in the city ahead of the marches, and Tehran's governor vowed to "smash" anyone who heeded the demonstration calls.

In some places, police struck hard. Security forces chased after protesters, beating them with clubs on Valiasr Street, Tehran's biggest north-south avenue, witnesses said.

Women in headscarves and young men dashed away, rubbing their eyes as police fired tear gas, in footage aired on state-run Press TV. In a photo from Thursday's events in Tehran obtained by The Associated Press outside Iran, a woman with her black headscarf looped over her face raised a fist in front of a garbage bin that had been set on fire.

But the clampdown was not total. At Tehran University, a line of police blocked a crowd from reaching the gates of the campus, but then did not move to disperse them as the protesters chanted "Mir Hossein" and "death to the dictator" and waved their hands in the air, witnesses said. The crowd grew to nearly 1,000 people, the witnesses said. "Police, protect us," some of the demonstrators chanted, asking the forces not to move against them.

The protesters appeared to reach several thousand, but their full numbers were difficult to determine, since marches took place in several parts of the city at once and mingled with passers-by. There was no immediate word on arrests or injuries.

It did not compare to the hundreds of thousands who joined the marches that erupted after the June 12 presidential election, protesting what the opposition said were fraudulent results. But it was a show of determination despite a crackdown that has cowed protesters for nearly two weeks.

Onlookers and pedestrians often gave their support. In side streets near the university, police were chasing young activists, and when they caught one, passers-by chanted "let him go, let him go," until the policemen released him. Elsewhere, residents let fleeing demonstrators slip into their homes to elude police, witnesses said.

All witnesses spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of government reprisals. Iranian authorities have imposed restrictions that ban reporters from leaving their offices to cover demonstrations.

Many of the marchers were young men and women, some wearing green surgical masks, the color of Mousavi's movement, but older people joined them in some places. Vehicles caught in traffic honked their horns in support of the marchers, witnesses said. Police were seen with a pile of license plates, apparently pried off honking cars in order to investigate the drivers later, the witnesses said.

Soon after the confrontations began, mobile phone service was cut off in central Tehran, a step that was also taken during the height of the postelection protests to cut off communications. Mobile phone messaging has been off for the past three days, apparently to disrupt attempts at planning.

The calls for a new march have been circulating for days on social networking Web sites and pro-opposition Web sites. Opposition supporters planned the marches to coincide with the anniversary Thursday of a 1999 attack by Basij on a Tehran University dorm to stop protests in which one student was killed.

Demonstrators dispersed by nightfall. But after sunset, shouts of "death to the dictator" could be heard from rooftops around the city--a half-hour nightly ritual by Mousavi supporters that has continued even since the previous crackdown.

Mousavi and his pro-reform supporters say he won the election, which official results showed as a landslide victory for incumbent hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Days of massive demonstrations erupted, until supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei declared the results valid and warned that unrest would not be tolerated.

In that followed, at least 20 protesters and 7 Basijis were killed, according to police.

Police have said 1,000 people were arrested and that most have since been released. But prosecutor-general Qorban-Ali Dorri Najafabadi said Wednesday that 2,500 people were arrested and that 500 of them could face trial, the state-run English language news network Press TV quoted. The remainder, he said, have been released.

Arrests have continued over the past week, with police rounding up dozens of activists, journalists and bloggers.

In the latest detentions, a prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Ali Dadkhah was taken away by security forces from his office Wednesday along with his daughter and three other members of his staff, the pro-opposition news Web site Norouz reported. A former deputy commerce minister in a previous pro-reform government, Feizollah Arab-Sorkhi, was also arrested at his Tehran home, the site reported.

A large number of top figures in Iran's reform movement, including a former vice president and former Cabinet members, have been held for weeks since the election.

Iranian authorities have depicted the postelection turmoil as instigated by enemy nations aiming to thwart Ahmadinejad's re-election, and officials say some of those detained confessed to fomenting the unrest. Opposition supporters say the confessions were forced under duress.

Ahead of the protests, Tehran's governor Morteza Tamaddon accused "foreign counterrevolutionary networks" of plotting new marches. "If some individuals plan to carry out any anti-security actions by listening to (protest) calls ... they will be smashed under the feet of our aware people," he said late Wednesday, according to the state news agency IRNA.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  God bless the protesters. And may some country(s) in the West find the kiwis and the means to help significantly these brave souls.
Posted by: Don Vito Crolutle2068 || 07/10/2009 9:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Meanwhile, Barry & family along with the other G8r's dine on rack O'lamb, white summer truffles, and Buluga Caviar.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/10/2009 10:24 Comments || Top||



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