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Suspected Al Qaeda #1 in Yemen escapes raid, #2 doesn't
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Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Donna Mae Tjaden aka Janis Paige



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Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/20/2009 0:49 Comments || Top||

#2  GB, my friend, you remain the gold standard.
Posted by: Mike || 12/20/2009 8:40 Comments || Top||

#3  a new day, a new page
Posted by: Frank G || 12/20/2009 9:29 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi warplanes rain 1,011 missiles on Yemen
[Iran Press TV Latest] Houthi fighters say Saudi warplanes have fired some 1,011 missiles on the borderline with Yemen where the Shia population is already under heavy state-led and US-aided bombardment.

The fighters also said on Saturday that the warplanes had carried out nearly 60 air assaults on the residential areas in the northern Al-Jabiri, Al-Dukhan and Al-Malaheet districts.

Saudi Arabia joined Sana'a's months-long fierce armed campaign against the Shia fighters in November.

The Houthis are accused by the central government of breaking the terms of a ceasefire agreement by taking foreign visitors hostage. The Saudis, on their part, claimed that the fighters had attacked one of their border checkpoints.

The fighters denounce the offensives as a discriminatory campaign against the Shia minority under Riyadh's auspices.

The offensives, meanwhile, have been taking their toll on the locals with the Saudis reportedly venturing beyond the Houthi positions, targeting civilian areas and using unconventional weaponry including flesh-eating white phosphorus bombs.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees estimates that since 2004, the conflict has forced up to 175,000 people in the Shia-dominated northwestern province of Sa'ada out of their homes and into overcrowded camps set up by the United Nations.

The US military equipment and intelligence have reportedly entered the equation in the recent days.

The US special forces have reportedly been sent to Yemen to provide the national army with training services. The US Air Force is also said to have been sporadically pounding the northern areas since Monday.

The Houthis said US attacks on Thursday killed 120 civilians, among whom were women and children. Also on Saturday, a report on the Houthis' website said that three civilians, including a woman and a child, had been killed in fresh air raids carried out by US warplanes.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AWWWWW BULLSH!T

"The Houthis said US attacks on Thursday killed 120 civilians, among whom were women and children."

ENEMY PROPAGANDA ALERT.

Amazing how fast they get these accurate totals of deceased civilians.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 12/20/2009 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  It really sucks to be Iran's ally. You watching, Hugolito?
Posted by: ed || 12/20/2009 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  I wonder who uses IranPress-TV articles besides Rantburg and Hizb'allah newspapers in southern Lebanon... DoD intelligence analysts and the CIA would have other sources, one would think.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/20/2009 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  TW, the US intelligence community uses every source available to it, including "news" agencies in foreign countries. Knowing what they're saying in public and also knowing what they say in private provides some very interesting tidbits now and then.

I just wonder where "US Air Force" aircraft could be flying from to target Yemen. It's a long way to US bases in Iraq. The US does have some forward basing deals in the southern portion of the Arabian peninsula, but I doubt they'd be using them for something as volatile as this. Carrier operations is a possibility, but I even doubt that much. Any "missile" attacks are probably coming from some of the US warships on anti-piracy patrol. Tomahawk missiles have VERY long legs.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/20/2009 13:24 Comments || Top||

#5  is amazing how they get such accurate numbers killed when there usually wouldn't be too much left or multiple pices of several bodies
Posted by: chris || 12/20/2009 14:17 Comments || Top||

#6  It's always a pleasure when an expert weighs in on one of my little ideas, Old Patriot. Thank you!

As for the American aircraft, it seems to me this is an IP-TV exaggeration. Yes, the Saudi air force uses American planes, but how on earth would the Houthi fighters be able to see exactly what is firing missiles at them from waaaaay up in the air?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/20/2009 14:18 Comments || Top||

#7  There is some second hand acknowledgement by Admiral Mullen that the US has been providing some "assistance" and "fire power" to the Yemeni government...what ever that means.
Posted by: Karl Rove || 12/20/2009 17:27 Comments || Top||


Suspected Al Qaeda leader in Yemen escapes raid
[Asharq al-Aswat] A military strike on Al Qaeda's network in Yemen killed the deputy commander of the terrorist network's cell in Abyan province, the Yemeni government said. Embassy spokesman Mohammed Albasha identified the dead man as Mohammed Al Kazimi, but said suspected Al Qaeda leader Qasim al-Raymi, the intended target of this week's raid, escaped.

Al-Raymi is one of 23 militants who broke out of a prison in San'a in February 2006 and is at large. Yemeni authorities have said they believe he was involved in the July 2007 suicide bombing that killed eight Spanish tourists and two Yemenis visiting a temple in central Yemen.

Christopher Boucek, a Yemen expert at the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said al-Raymi is deputy commander of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and has managed to escape several previous attempts by authorities to get him.

The U.S. provided firepower and other aid to Yemen for the strike this week against suspected Al Qaeda hide-outs and training sites within its borders, according to a New York Times report.

President Barack Obama approved the military and intelligence support, which came at the request of the Yemeni government. It was intended to help stem growing attacks against American and other foreign targets in Yemen, the newspaper said.

Albasha denied the U.S. launched missiles in the attack. Officials said at least 34 militants were killed in the Yemeni strike on Thursday in what was an unusually heavy assault as the Obama administration presses the unstable country for tougher action against Al Qaeda.

Witnesses put the number killed at over 60 and said the dead were mostly civilians, including women and children. They denied the target was an Al Qaeda stronghold, and one provincial official said only 10 militant suspects died. The United States has called on Yemen to take stronger action against Al Qaeda, whose fighters have increasingly found refuge in the country in the past year. Worries over the terrorist group's growing presence are compounded by fears that Yemen could collapse into turmoil from its multiple conflicts and increasing poverty and become another Afghanistan, giving the militants even freer rein.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Yemen

#1 

Approves.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 12/20/2009 13:30 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
FBI walks tightrope in outreach to Muslims, fighting terrorism
At a retirement party last week for the head of the FBI's Washington field office, Muslim and Arab leaders presented the guest of honor with a crystal plaque. It thanked Joseph Persichini Jr. for reaching out to the local Muslim and Arab communities. Yet even as the tribute on Capitol Hill went on, his agents had a different mission. They were flying to Pakistan to interrogate five Washington area Muslim men arrested in a terrorism probe. The outcome of that investigation threatens to undermine the very relationships their boss tried to foster.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, FBI agents from the same office have met with Muslim leaders, fielded questions at mosques and participated in Ramadan feasts. The outreach might well have resulted in the families of the five men coming forward to the FBI to report them missing. But that action now has agents and prosecutors facing a dilemma as the case has morphed from a missing persons investigation into a counter-terrorism probe. As U.S. officials consider whether to file criminal charges against the men and how aggressively to prosecute any potential case, some Muslim leaders are calling for leniency, saying the tough approach often used by the Bush administration would alienate a community whose relationship with law enforcement is uneasy.

"Charging them and throwing them in jail is not the solution," said Nihad Awad, national head of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which approached the FBI on behalf of the families. "The government has to show some appreciation for the actions of the parents and the community. That will encourage other families to come forward."

The men, ages 18 to 24, traveled overseas just after Thanksgiving without telling their families and were arrested near Lahore on Dec. 8. A Pakistani court this week ordered them held for up to 10 more days of interrogation, but officials say their likely return to the United States could take months. Pakistani officials say the men were in touch with a Taliban recruiter and were aiming to join up with al-Qaeda and battle U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Federal prosecutors in Alexandria, where any criminal case would probably be brought, declined to comment. But law enforcement sources say prosecutors are likely to consider charges that include providing material support to terrorist organizations. Prosecutors face complexities that include whether the men's reported admissions to Pakistani authorities are admissible in a U.S. court and whether any statements were coerced.

But the law enforcement imperative could clash with President Obama's desire to improve relations with Muslims abroad and in the United States. When asked about the arrests in Pakistan, Obama praised "the extraordinary contributions of the Muslim-American community." U.S. law enforcement also views relations with Muslims as critical for its mandate to prevent terror attacks. The Northern Virginia families "alerted their community and the authorities immediately when they knew there was something wrong with their sons," said one federal official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is unfolding. "That's a very positive step."

Current and former law enforcement officials said the families' actions will not affect the FBI's intensifying investigation. "When you come upon information that the law may have been violated, the way you receive that information does not change your obligation to respond to it accordingly," said Michael A. Mason, who preceded Persichini as head of the FBI's D.C. field office.

Other officials said cooperation could affect any decision on whether to file charges and what penalties to seek, although that might depend on whether the five men cooperate. The key factor, officials said, is always the evidence. "Cooperation typically does not override public safety," said Paul J. McNulty, who as U.S. attorney in Alexandria oversaw many terrorism cases, "but it does play a role."

The case is unfolding against a backdrop of increased tension nationally between the FBI and the Muslim community. A coalition of two dozen Muslim groups in March suspended most contacts with the FBI over what it called inappropriate infiltration of mosques.

Relations between the FBI and Muslim groups are generally less strained in the Washington area, where the field office -- the bureau's second largest, with about 800 agents -- is continuing its intensive outreach to the region's estimated 250,000 Muslims. "They've made a very sincere effort," said Rizwan Jaka, a board member at the Sterling-based ADAMS Center, the area's largest mosque. The center has held FBI town hall meetings and hosted agents during the breaking of the daily Ramadan fast.

Yet tensions remain, and local Muslims still decry the prosecution of terrorism cases in Northern Virginia after Sept. 11, especially the conviction of 11 men in what prosecutors called a "Virginia jihad network."

Nawar Shora, legal director for the American-Arab Anti Discrimination Committee -- who, with a representative from a Muslim group presented the award to Persichini -- said the Arab and Muslim communities will accept any charges against the men arrested in Pakistan as long as they are treated fairly. Yet he indicated that tensions could flare, depending how the government approaches a case. "If the FBI and the prosecutors say these were five Muslims and they were trying to commit jihad, and they throw out all of these incendiary religious terms, that's different," Shora said.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/20/2009 01:28 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "If the FBI and the prosecutors say these were five Muslims and they were trying to commit jihad, and they throw out all of these incendiary religious terms, that's different,"

So, we can agree then that we try them as traitors and just leave out the religious motivation? No? Then let them rot in Pakistan, let them try them in Pakistan, and let the Pakistani's make an example of them, IN PAKISTAN.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 12/20/2009 4:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Every Western nation should send all Muslims back to a Muslim country of their choice. Every Western nation has nothing but trouble with this nasty, sick excuse for a religion. They are the new 5th columnists, they are conquering by immigration, our ruling elite seem incapable of stopping it, we need to break out of the " Iron Cage " of " Political Correctness "
Posted by: Dave UK || 12/20/2009 4:47 Comments || Top||

#3  DAVE UK: there are liberal votes in every minority group or cause so reality never sets in for the government. All all third world immigrants groups cozy up to the liberals and at the same time despise what liberalism represents and work in various ways to destroy it...this is the great paradox of our time.
Posted by: Hammerhead || 12/20/2009 8:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Hammerhead,
This sort of thing has been going on in the UK for many years, only the growing popularity of Right Wing political groups, is forcing the government of the UK to try and show the electorate, that they will confront radical Islam. They will not, and Sharia law will rule our once proud country, unless we take action.
Posted by: Dave UK || 12/20/2009 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Sucking up to muzz is a form of PC snakehandling...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/20/2009 10:08 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Taliban Pak tribal havens forming cells in urban areas
ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN -- Militants forced to flee their havens in Pakistan's mountainous tribal areas are establishing new, smaller cells in the heart of the country ... U.S. and Pakistani officials say.

The spread of fighters is an unintended consequence of a relatively successful effort by the United States and Pakistan to disrupt the insurgents' operations.

American and Pakistani officials say the militants' widening reach has added to the challenge for both nations' intelligence, which must now track an insurgent diaspora that can infiltrate Pakistan's teeming cities and blend seamlessly with the local population. A Pakistani intelligence official said the offensive had put militants "on the run" but added: "Now they're all over -- Afghanistan, North Waziristan and inside Pakistan."
Pakistan bred the rats, then let them escape. Consequences are a dreadful thing.
The Pakistani intelligence official said the Taliban and al-Qaeda have ruthlessly purged anyone in their organizations accused of being a spy. The markets in Peshawar, capital of the North-West Frontier Province, are full of DVD recordings of beheadings of suspected informants.

Just in North Waziristan, the official said, Pakistani intelligence agencies have lost 30 undercover operatives this year.
Posted by: lord garth || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the Pakis are kept busy at home, they won't have the energy to sponsor another 911 mass murders spree.
Posted by: ed || 12/20/2009 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Most Taliban are country yokels who are going to stand out in "the big city", so will be easier to finger.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/20/2009 8:49 Comments || Top||

#3  #2: Most Taliban are country yokels who are going to stand out in "the big city", so will be easier to finger.

The leadership isn't, A-moose, and they're the ones that are the most desired to stop.

This is developing quite nicely. Soon, there will be very little opposition to the dissolution of Pakistan and the incorporation of its former territories into Afghanistan (Muslim) and India (Hindu). Another case of British Foreign Office maneuvering that's come back to bite them - hard.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/20/2009 13:39 Comments || Top||


21 terrorists killed in SWA, Orakzai Agency
[Geo News] Twenty-one terrorists have been killed during search operations in South Waziristan and Orakzai Agency while 550 suspects have been apprehended in Kohat along with arms and ammunition.

According to sources, the militants attacked a camp of security forces in Asman Manza area of Tehsil Ladha. The security forces repulsed with firing and killed seven terrorists while seven more were injured. One security man was martyred and two were injured in the clash.

The security forces pounded the militants' hideouts with the help of jet fighters in Upper Orakzai, killing 5 militants. Five more militants were killed in an offensive launched with the of gunship helicopters in Goyan Feroz area of Lower Orakzai.

A clash between militants and tribesman of Satori Khel resulted in the killing of six terrorists and two locals.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Explosion in Peshawar; DSP escapes unhurt
[Dawn] A DSP escaped unhurt in an explosion in Peshawar's Afridiabad area on Saturday.

Meanwhile, authorities also arrested a suspected militant commander named Zahidur Rehman from the Peshawar airport while he was trying to escape to Dubai

Police said a remote-controlled bomb planted on the roadside went off as the police mobile drove by. The explosion partially damaged the vehicle of DSP Gulbahar Khan.

No casualties were reported and ambulances and a bomb disposal squad rushed to the site soon after the blast.

According to DSP Bomb Disposal Squad, Tanveer Khan, 700 grams of explosives were used in the blast. Three suspects were also arrested from the scene.

Afridiabad is a sensitive area where a radio transmission centre and JUI-F's NWFP secretariat is located. Police said this was the second such attack in the area in the past two days.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > PAKISTAN IN CRSIS AS "CREEPING COUP" UNFOLDS [Arrest of PAK Interior Minister sought]; + IMPLICATIONS OF THE HEADLEY CASE [US-PAK-INDIA relations].

versus

SAME > PETRAEUS: PAK ARMY NOT PLANNING COUP.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/20/2009 19:15 Comments || Top||

#2  OOOPSIES, forgot SAME > VIDEO NEWS - THERE WILL BE REVOLUTION, in PAKISTAN???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/20/2009 19:17 Comments || Top||


Three, including DSP, killed in Quetta shooting
[Dawn] A deputy superintendent of Balochistan Constabulary, his guard and an assistant sub-inspector were gunned down in an ambush on the Manno Jan road here on Saturday. Two constables were seriously injured in the attack. Sources said a police van, after picking up DSP Habibullah Qasrani from his house in the morning, was going to his office when armed men opened indiscriminate fire on it from three sides.

The DSP received multiple wounds and died on the spot. ASP Mohammad Aslam and the guard were taken to a hospital in serious condition, but they died.

The Baloch Liberation United Front has claimed responsibility for the attack. Talking on telephone from an unspecified place, BLUF spokesman Shahiq Baloch warned that 'if Baloch police officials do not stop supporting state machinery, they will be targeted'.

Police have registered a case against unidentified armed men.

LANDMINE
Two Bugti tribesmen were injured when their motorcycle hit a landmine in Dasht Goran area of Dera Bugti district. They were taken to the PPL hospital in Sui.

In another incident, a police head constable and a passer-by were injured in an explosion at a bus stop in Hub. According to sources, the explosive device had been fitted to a motorcycle parked at the bus stop.

At least seven people were injured when armed men hurled a hand-grenade into a house at Mand town in Turbat district. Sources said that the house was being used for drug trade.

The Baloch Liberation Army had distributed pamphlets a few days ago in Turbat, Mand and Mach towns warning drug dealers to stop the illegal business.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Militants attack FC camp in Khyber
[Dawn] Militants fired four rockets while attacking a Frontier Corps camp in Khyber agency's Bara tehsil on Saturday, DawnNews reported.

Security forces retaliated and pounded militant hideouts in different parts of the agency, official sources told DawnNews.

Security was then beefed up around the FC camp and a search operation was underway.

A military operation is currently underway in the Khyber agency while a curfew is still imposed in Bara tehsil.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Six terrorists killed in search operation in S. Waziristan
[Dawn] As the military offensive continues in South Waziristan, six suspected militants were killed during a search operation in Lawara Punga area near Mana in South Waziristan, an ISPR spokesman informed.

Authorities have also arrested a suspected militant commander, Zahidur Rehman, from the Peshawar airport while he was trying to escape to Dubai.

Terrorists fired rockets and arms at security forces patrolling the area, which they effectively responded to.

According to the Inter-Services Public relations spokesman, security forces have so far secured SAIN Tanga and Malik Shahi areas.

Meanwhile, six suspected militants were also arrested in a clearance operation near Pezu while huge cache of arms and ammunitions were recovered in the Shakai Sector.

A search operation is also underway in MiramShah.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Iraq
Two policemen gunned down in Mosul
Two Iraqi policemen have been killed in the latest string of terrorist attacks to hit the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

In the first incident, one policeman was killed on Saturday by unidentified gunmen in the western part of Mosul. According to a report published by the Aswat al-Iraq news agency, the attack took place in the Hay al-Athar neighborhood.

Security forces cordoned off the area after the attack and launched an investigation.

In another incident in Mosul, an Iraqi police officer was shot dead.

"On Saturday, unidentified gunmen opened fire on a customs policeman who was driving his car in the al-Falah area, killing him on the spot," a local security source said. The victim was visiting his son in Mosul.

A volatile ethnic mix of Sunni Arabs, Kurds, and Christians, Mosul has been the scene of frequent shootings and bombings, and US commanders regard the once cosmopolitan city as the last urban bastion of the Al-Qaeda in Iraq. The capital city of Iraq's Nineveh province is situated some 396 kilometers (250 miles) northwest of Baghdad.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran acknowledges prisoners were beaten to death
[Asharq al-Aswat] Iran's hard-line judiciary acknowledged for the first time Saturday that at least three prisoners detained after June's disputed presidential election were beaten to death by their jailers, confirming a key claim by the country's opposition movement. The surprising acknowledgment followed months of repeated denials by police and other authorities that the deaths of protesters in Iranian custody were caused by abuse.

In a statement, the judiciary said 12 officials at Kahrizak prison were charged, three of them with murder. The prison, on the southern outskirts of the capital, Tehran, was at the center of the opposition's claims that prisoners were tortured and raped in custody.

The claims embarrassed Iran's clerical rulers and forced Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to order the closure of the facility.

Police and judiciary officials had for months rejected the claims, saying the deaths were caused by illnesses, not physical mistreatment. Authorities fired back, accusing the opposition of running a campaign of lies against the ruling system.

"The coroner's office has rejected that meningitis was the cause of the deaths and has confirmed the existence of signs of repeated beatings on the bodies and has declared that the wounds inflicted were the cause of the deaths," the Web site of Iran's state TV quoted the statement as saying.

The opposition says at least 72 protesters were killed in the postelection crackdown, but the government puts the number of confirmed dead at 30. Iran's police chief, Gen. Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam, said in August that protesters were beaten by their jailers at Kahrizak, but he maintained the deaths were not caused by the abuse.

The opposition's criticism was implicitly aimed at the elite Revolutionary Guard, which operates with some autonomy from the ruling clerics and led the harsh crackdown and detention of protesters in the tense weeks after the election.

The unrest broke out after Iran's opposition leader, Mir Hossein Mousavi, claimed he was robbed of the presidency through massive fraud in the vote.
Posted by: Fred || 12/20/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  No mention of the rapes.
Posted by: tipover || 12/20/2009 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  The diagnosis came a little too late for the whistle-blowimg doctor.
Posted by: ed || 12/20/2009 0:55 Comments || Top||

#3  A leadership that flaunts its accumulation of nuclear weapons is hardly worried about paper wads from the pseudo human rights NGOs. Besides there's no money in going after a regime in Tehran when you make your money denouncing America.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/20/2009 7:01 Comments || Top||

#4  How much popular support for a War would Iran enjoy INTERNALLY right now if one were to break out requiring the young people of Iran to rush to the aid of the Regime?

If Iran were hit from all sides by a US Administration serious about crippling Iran militarily and economically, just trashing the country down to junk and bare pipes. ? And then leaving it to gag on its broken teeth.?

No need to invade it...just draw off after the damage was done and watch it bleed. Hit it again in, say< a year. This time rip off Khuzestan and 80% of its Oil fields.(take its wallet) Then move in about four Divisions to hold that and ruthlessly transport the entire population OUT (just dispossess them) into Iran proper and move in Iraqis to work the Oil fields and repopulate the region.

Use the Zagros Mountains as a shield, take the roads and cover the entire approaches to the new possessions with air assets...nothing moves over those passes and mountain roads without air covering it completely. The Iranians couldnt counter attack unless they bled to death assaulting through those mountain roads. There is no way to come around. Get full Iraqi support with a big cut in ALL of the Iranian Oil.( BUY the Iraqis..they can be bought) Use Iranian Oil to pay for it.

Of course its nasty and greedy...and violent. Use Iraqis to do Occupation. All we have to do is crack and cut and draw the lines...then pull back and let the region bleed while we move up Air superiority for the next phase.

Greed works. And so does Violence. It only fails when you dont have the nerve and will to kill enough and keep it up. You can win any war if you kill enough. The trick is the willingness to pile them up. Like the Mongols took Bukhkara....

Genghis Khan appeared 400 miles BEHIND the Shah's Army already bled dry by three Mongol Divisions at the border by sweeping a two month crossing of a desert thought impassible. He took the city with no defenses, sacked it systematically and drove the population off to work in Mongolia. (have a good time and pack a Lunch).

Then he hunted the Shah down like a rat. If you are ruthless enough wars can be won. The secret is to ignore the UN and piss on the rest. Will they fight to stop you? No. Will they stand there and whine? Who cares?

Screw 'em.
Obama wont last forever. What we want is man who will pull the trigger..even more ruthless than Cheney next time.

There is nothing inevitable about the America's "decline" or the economy as it is. Are the EUroweenies our friends? The answer to anti-American sentiments is take their wallets and pull down their pants. Give as good as you get. Keep the money and give them back the empty wallet. They dont like it... tell 'em to speak French.

Give China a big juicy cut, and let the rest live on the sh*t in their pants. Dont bow, have an attitude.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 12/20/2009 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Remind me not to pi$$ you off, Angleton9!
Posted by: Bobby || 12/20/2009 11:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Angleton9, how will we ever know how you feel if you keep holding back? Seriously, that was great. Thanks.
Posted by: WolfDog || 12/20/2009 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Personally I like Angleton9's attitude.

Speaking from the "Patience my ass, I'm going to kill something" school of counterinsurgency, every time we have taken a punch in the snoot from an insurgency, it is because we did not go after their "safehavens". Right now, ripping Iran a new rectum would solve a lot of problems in Iraq, Israel, Pakistan, etc., I think the Saudis might even appreciate that for about six nanoseconds while they wash their hands in their 24K gold faucets...

We've watched the IAEA and the EU come to the table with Iran and present proposals that the mullah's promptly wipe their butts with, when are the cowards and sissies going to recognize that these nuts think of negotiation as weakness...I think the Spartans had the right idea, its better to fight and die than even think about a world ruled by these animals.
Posted by: Karl Rove || 12/20/2009 12:13 Comments || Top||

#8  I've said on this site for years that it's far better to be feared than to be treated with contempt. Our "leadership" doesn't understand that, and keep feeding the contempt. Take the gloves off, smash completely, and then ask if they want more (being quite willing to give them everything they can take, and then 50% more). Until we get rid of the "internationalists" in State, the cowards in Defense, and the greedy in the rest of our government, we'll keep playing stupid games and soaking up casualties. That kind of behavior is stupid, but it lines the pockets of far too many in Washington. Perhaps our first military strike should be there, rather than overseas.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/20/2009 13:49 Comments || Top||

#9  D*amn A-9, I like your style!

Of course, the Ball$ in DC are mostly made of Brie, not brass, so your dream shall come to naught.....
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 12/20/2009 16:09 Comments || Top||

#10  I like Angleton9's attitude too!
Posted by: Ptah || 12/20/2009 19:20 Comments || Top||

#11  Give China a big juicy cut? What for? Been done already!!
Posted by: GirlThursday || 12/20/2009 20:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Angleton9, if you are an American and of the proper age, maybe you should run for Pres. Id probably vote for you!!
Posted by: GirlThursday || 12/20/2009 20:27 Comments || Top||

#13  " its better to fight and die than even think about a world ruled by these animals Islamic Mofos."

Ah, definitely. Slightly off topic but some jihadi mofo of M.E. descent has been lurking the bushes on the local village footpath around here trying to jump out and nab runners. He tried three times w/o success before being jailed. He'll be out before long, no doutbt.

If that mofo jumps out on GirlThursday, he will get lit on fire. Literally. I carry a hairspray and a lighter. Plus a knife. Who said you have to put up with Islam when you can attack it right back?
Posted by: GirlThursday || 12/20/2009 20:40 Comments || Top||

#14  hey I shouldn't have had that in quotes since i altered it. Sry.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 12/20/2009 20:41 Comments || Top||

#15  GirlThursday, around here when we do that we say, "Fixed it for you." Perhaps you've noticed the acronym FIFY and wondered what it was. And now you've done it. Congratulations, my dear. As for the other, I'm sure any jihadi who tries jumping out of the bushes at you or any of your friends will be terribly sorry after, regardless from where his ancestors might have come.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/20/2009 22:13 Comments || Top||



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