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Norks Threaten ''All-Out War'' Over Cheonan Report
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Afghanistan
Taliban suicide assault squad repelled at police outpost
A Taliban suicide assault squad was repelled as it tried to overrun an Afghan police outpost today in the Urgun district in Paktika province. Four Taliban fighters and one policeman were reported killed in the fighting along the border with Pakistan.

At least four Taliban fighters were involved in the attack, according to reports from the region. The attack began when a Taliban suicide bomber rammed a truck packed with explosives into the main gate of the police outpost, killing a policeman.

Three Taliban fighters armed with assault rifles and grenades then attempted to overrun the police outpost but were beaten back by police after an hour-long gun battle.

Posted by: Glenmore || 05/21/2010 13:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
Al Qaeda appeals to women to fight in Yemen
Al Qaeda has appealed to Muslim women, particularly those in Saudi Arabia, to travel to Yemen and wage jihad. The appeal was made by Wafa al-Shahri, wife of Al Qaeda's second in command in Yemen, Said al-Shahri.

Wafa al-Shahri was directing her message in particular to Al Qaeda colleagues in Saudi Arabia. Her appeal was published in the latest issue of the online magazine "Sada al-Malahim", the AKI news agency reported Thursday.

"Those of you who are religious should immediately come to Yemen," she wrote. "If your men folk are not able to defend you, come here where you will be protected. In Yemen we have found men, among Al Qaeda militants and members of local tribes, who have helped us."

The young woman admitted to having led a terror cell, uncovered by Saudi security services March 24 in al-Bureida. At least 113 people were arrested.

Wafa al-Shahri, whose battle name is Umm Hajir al-Azdi, is wanted by Saudi authorities. Before her marriage to the deputy leader of the group, she had been married to two other Al Qaeda militants.

The first husband was Saudi Al Shaia al-Qahtani, whom she divorced,
I thought only husbands and fathers had the right of divorce...
while the second was Abdel Rahman al-Ghamidi, killed by royal police at Taif in 2004.

Wafa married Said al-Shahri two years ago, soon after he had been released from the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
Posted by: ryuge || 05/21/2010 11:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  do they get 72 male virgins when they are killed?
Posted by: chris || 05/21/2010 13:23 Comments || Top||

#2  GFL on that one, chris.

Are there 72 male virgins in the entire world (let alone the afterlife)?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/21/2010 14:19 Comments || Top||

#3  ...well, they're either playing D&D or Warhammer at the local game store or still hermetically attached to their computer mouse playing WoW right now.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/21/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#4  I thought they were all on Little Green Footballs....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/21/2010 16:01 Comments || Top||

#5  do they get 72 male virgins when they are killed?

I believe they get to be the most beautiful of their husband's virgins, chris. And possibly they get to bring up a few family members to paradise as well, who otherwise wouldn't have earnt the privilege.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/21/2010 17:14 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
ULFA commander Paresh Barua arrested, or not
It's B'desh so no one knows a thing ...
Paresh Barua, commander-in-chief of the banned United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA), has been arrested by th
e Bangladesh authorities, reports expressbuzz.com of India, reports UNB.
The dreaded ULFA leader was apprehended by the Bangladesh security agencies about 12 days ago when he was crossing over to Bangladesh via Myan-mar border after visiting Chinese Yunnan province.

Home Secretary Abdus Sobhan Sikder pleaded ignorance about the arrest of Paresh Barua. "I''m not aware of it," he told UNB this evening.

Bangladesh officials had been shy of confirming the arrest and handing over to India the ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa and three of his comrades early this year, and National Democratic Front of Bodoland chairman Ranjan Daimary couple of months ago.

"We are expecting Bangladesh to hand him over to us soon once they finish interrogating him," sources told Express.

An IANS report from Guwahati, Assam, said Indian Home Secretary G K Pillai pleaded ignorance about the arrest of ULFA Commander. "We have no such reports," he said in response to an SMS about the Express report.

Television channels in Assam and some newspapers on Thursday reported that ULFA's elusive commander-in-chief was arrested in Bangladesh about a fortnight ago upon his return from China. "At a time when Bangladesh is stepping up its heat on ULFA and NDFB, a seasoned separatist leader like Paresh Barua would never enter Bangladesh and get himself captured," a central intelligence official said. "It is nothing but a rumour."
Posted by: Steve White || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Mexican Federal Agents Nab Eight Bad Guys
Mexican federal agents arrested eight drug cartel members in three different sites in Juarez, according to published Mexican news reports. Reports said five were members of the Sinaloa gang and three were from the La Línea element of the Juarez drug gang.

The unidentified suspects were taken in the Los Volcanes district near the intersection of Minerva and Hermes, and in the San Ãngel district near the intersection of San Patricio and Rubén Posad-a Pompa streets and near the intersection of Jerónimo y Rubén Posad-a Pompa streets.

An unidentified man who was a kidnap victim taken from the San Angel district of Juarez was released.

Also seized in the bust:
  • 1 Ford Windstar
  • 1 SUV Envoy
  • 1 Dodge Caravan green color
  • 1 Dodge Caravan with robbery report
  • 1 Nissan white Sentra
  • 1 Ford white Taurus
  • 12 AK-47s
  • 1 .223 caliber rifle
  • 9 9mm pistols
  • 1 .380 caliber pistol
  • 12 bullet-proof vests
  • 5 cartridge drums for AK-47
  • More than two thousand useful cartridges
Posted by: badanov || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tomorrow we're going to read about these agents being found sans their heads?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/21/2010 2:38 Comments || Top||

#2  An unidentified man who was a kidnap victim taken from the San Angel district of Juarez was released.

That's good news!
Posted by: Bugs Spealing3182 || 05/21/2010 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Gosh - eight of 'em, huh? Big fish, are they? Lords of the Cartel?

Or were they throw-away thugs?
Posted by: mojo || 05/21/2010 16:27 Comments || Top||

#4  * 1 Ford Windstar
* 1 SUV Envoy
* 1 Dodge Caravan green color
* 1 Dodge Caravan with robbery report
* 1 Nissan white Sentra
* 1 Ford white Taurus
* 12 AK-47s
* 1 .223 caliber rifle
* 9 9mm pistols
* 1 .380 caliber pistol
* 12 bullet-proof vests
* 5 cartridge drums for AK-47
* More than two thousand useful cartridges


Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good time in Vegas with all that.
Posted by: Maj. King Kong || 05/21/2010 21:55 Comments || Top||


More Mexican Mayhem
The shootout at Urique is not a confirmed event at the moment and the between two and six dead are not included in today's 3M body count.

A trend is becoming apparent for criminals to file false reports in order to draw security elements into ambushes, so the 48 Hour Rule holds for the shootout in Urique

24 Dead in Gang Violence in northern Mexico

At least 24 people were killed in drug and gang violence in northern Mexico in events which included shootouts in Urique, Chihuahua and Torreon, Coahuila, as well as a dead Juarez CIPOL agent, Mexican news reports say.
  • Five men were killed including two Coahiuila State Police agents in an apparent ambush in Torreón, Coahuila, according to published Mexican news reports. The ambush took place in a commercial area known as Four Caminos, which is next to a residential area after the police agents were called to investigate a report of suspicious vehicles.

    According to reports, the agents were shot at by suspects who were aboard more than ten vehicles of various makes in a running gun battle. One agent was killed at the scene while another died after receiving medical treatment.

    Police reports say three unidentified suspects died at the scene and several more were wounded, but evacuated by their partners in crime.

    Police seized two light trucks. Aboard they found hand grenades and other munitions police say were going to be used against them. A third light truck was found on Revolucion Boulevard, but it had been emptied of evidence.

  • A large shootout involving about 20 suspected gang members in two groups left two dead, according to Mexican news reports. Elements of the 52nd Military sone of the Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional ( SEDENA ) were deployed to the southern Chihuahua town to find weapons and bodies.

    Residents of Urique say the gun battle lasted about 40 minutes. News reports suggest as many as six dead.

  • Two men were found shot to death Thursday morning on a highway in Chihuahua, according to Mexican news reports. Alex Caraveo Tarango, 35, and Juan Carlos Fierro Alvarado, 20, were found at Km. 38 of the Cuauhtémoc-Carichí highway with their hands and feet bound with black cable ties and clear tape. They were both shot several times.

    Alvarado was previously reported missing.

  • A CIPOL agent was found executed Thursday afternoon near the commercial center El Pasito in central Juarez, according to Mexican press reports. Francisco Vargas Ramirez died at the scene.

    The attack took place on 29th Street, between Juärez and Aldam streets. Reports say the victim was shot with AK-47s

  • Two unidentified men were found shot to death aboard a truck on Hidroeléctrica de Chicoacén Street in Juarez Thursday afternoon. Reports say the men were shot with AK-47s. Three shooters were aboard a gold colored Volkswagen Jetta. Very few details were available.

  • An unidentified man was found shot to death in an ironworks only minutes after two businessmen were found shot near Hidroeléctrica de Chicoacén. Reports say the man was shot with AK-47s by armed suspects riding a Dodge Voyager.

  • A man was shot to death and two others wounded on Ejercito Nacional street near Avenida Valentin Fuentes in Juarez Thursday morning, according to Mexican news reports. Witnesses say Octavio Mata, 26, his brother Juan, and a companion, Pedro, were shot aboard their red 1980 Nissan Pathfinder by a suspect more than 30 times.

  • Investigators said five woman were found Wednesday evening cut up in several trash bags aboard the Chevrolet pickup truck on a highway outside of Juarez, according to published accounts. According to reports, the silver colored Silverado truck was stolen.

    Subsequent reports indicate there were five victims; all woman, and all murdered with an axe.

  • Two unidentified men were shot to death and another man as wounded in an attack which took place late Thursday afternoon in the El Granjero district of Juarez. The attack took place near the intersection of Sorgo and Pitaya streets, and may have involved members of the same family.

  • An unidentified man was shot to death in front of his wife, who was wounded late Wednesday night, according to Mexican news reports. According to witnesses the couple were attacked as they emerged from their black Chevrolet pickup truck at their home near the intersection of Jesús Chävez Orozco y Eduardo Viral Loya in the Educación district of Juarez.

    The man died instantly of several shots to the head while his wife was wounded in the legs.

  • A man was ambushed in front of his home in the Rosario Tesopaco district of Hermosillo, Sonora, according to published Mexican news reports. Marco Antonio Quijada Valenzuela, 39, was gunned down by an unknown number of suspects armed with AK-47s as he was leaving his home. The victim's wife and children were apparently unharmed in the attack.

    Investigators found 74 spent rifle casings at the scene and a 9mm derringer on the victim.

  • An unidentified man was shot to death in the Conjunto Habitacional Infonavit 5 de Mayo district of Nogales, Sonora, according to published Mexican press accounts. According to investigators, four armed men aboard gray Jeep Liberty shot the man using AK-47s.

  • Two unidentified men in their 30s were found shot to death next to the highway to Delicias, Chihuahua, Thursday evening according to Mexican news reports. They were found near Km. 199.

    The men with their hands bound were shot in the head near a scene where other recent executions have taken place. The victims may have been kidnapped.
Posted by: badanov || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Norks Threaten All-Out War" Over Cheonan Report
North Korea on Thursday threatened "all-out war" if South Korea takes punitive action over the sinking of the South Korean Navy corvette Cheonan on March 26. The South Korean government in an official report the same day announced that the shipwreck was caused by a North Korean torpedo attack.

A spokesman for North Korea's powerful National Defense Commission called the findings a "fabricated farce" and offered to send an inspection group to South Korea. It threatened "drastic measures including an all-out war" if Seoul takes sanctions against it. "Such an all-out war would be a holy war to completely wipe out the base of the traitorous clique and establish a great unified nation," he said.

The statement was issued around 10:30 a.m. Thursday, a mere 30 minutes after a South Korean government spokesman began reading the report on the findings -- an unprecedentedly swift reaction from a normally glacial regime.

"It seems that they released a prepared statement immediately after the investigation team showed the decisive evidence, a torpedo propeller, to the public," a government official said. "This is proof that the North thinks the situation is serious."

The statement said there must be "no shred of doubt about the material evidence to be produced before the inspection group" from North Korea.

But Lt. Gen. Park Jung-yi, a co-director of the South Korean civilian-military investigation team, said, "The two sides are still under an armistice agreement, so the proper procedure is for the UN Military Armistice Commission to determine how the North was involved and then tell Pyongyang of its own findings."
Posted by: Steve White || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You've watched it,
you've seen it, the cockroach scurrying across the floor,
when you turn on the light.
What do you do?

WELL THE LIGHTS ON.
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/21/2010 0:41 Comments || Top||

#2  How do you say "Bring It" in Korean?
Posted by: OldSpook || 05/21/2010 0:49 Comments || Top||

#3  You don't. You offer your behind & hope that Juche works as well as a lub as it does as a no wax floor cleaner.
Posted by: Adriane || 05/21/2010 3:45 Comments || Top||

#4  haven't they already committed an act of war?

must be some generals want to tip the country to war to get rid of Kimmie. They are sick of him.

On another matter: I linked to Facebook's "Everybody draw Mohammed day" to celebrate free speech yesterday.

Now I find the facebook link no longer works, it redirects me back to my own facebook page, no matter if I click from FB or from google search results.

I've seen NO story on it.

Does anybody know if Australia is cracking down on free speech on the Internet? Is this just Australia? Or is it happening if you try to access it from the US also?

Cheers,
Anon1
Posted by: anon1 || 05/21/2010 4:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Facebook took the page down.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/21/2010 7:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Thanks Deacon Blues

I guess the forces of unfreedom won.
Posted by: anon1 || 05/21/2010 7:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Funny thing is , it probably got pulled becasue of the threat of 'inciting hatered'

Oooh the irony

Back on topic .

Seems to me a proxy war (through NK) for China would be a good way to measure western defensive and offensive capabilities , whilst managing the situation in the background , and probably stitching Kim up in the process

Posted by: Oscar || 05/21/2010 8:10 Comments || Top||

#8  ...to completely wipe out the base of the traitorous clique

Nice commie rhetoric - I give it a 7.8.
Posted by: Raj || 05/21/2010 8:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Anon1, I don't know about the actual pages but I've seen a lot of posts with Mohammed drawings. My personal favorite was one with its face tattooed on a camel's ass.
Posted by: Lowspark || 05/21/2010 9:01 Comments || Top||

#10  A full war might actually snap the South Korean civilians back to reality.

Plus the North would be whipped pretty good and collapse.
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/21/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#11  the S Kors demonstrated the first time that they have NO backbone for fighting the N Kor's. No backbone really at all.S Korea could ,at this point ,be moot regarding the communist threat that created the 2 Koreas in the first place. We waste manpower and rescources to prop up a hopelessly corrupt goverment ( S Kor ) and what do we get for it : Kia's?! not worth the price of admission
Posted by: Captain Ulosing4107 || 05/21/2010 10:16 Comments || Top||

#12  You seem awfully judgemental, considering the South Koreans get to choose between any sort of justice and the continued existance of Seoul. Thanks to all of OUR bad decisions, North Korea has a nuclear deterrent and South Korea doesn't. Acting judgemental towards South Korea for its choosing any of a number of awful decisions, such as you have done, is IMHO the actions of a pathetically obtuse little man who probably has never had any real responsibilities in your life.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 11:14 Comments || Top||

#13  I've said it before: Democrat presidents are the ones most likely to get us into a war. They project weakness thereby encouraging our enemies to become even more aggressive. Could be the commies just want to test Obama's mettle. If he was anything like Reagan he'd threaten the Norks with utter devastation. Everybody would say he's crazy and dangerous but the Norks would back down.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 05/21/2010 11:37 Comments || Top||

#14  And this all depends on your thinking. If you believe the U.S. is responsible for protecting everyone like we're in Southern Italy and the U.S. is running a protection racket, then yes, we have let the SKOR down. But if you believe each individual and nation is responsible for protecting themself/itself, then no, it is on SKOR to provide its own protection against its rabid neighbors, or at least fill in the gaps in our services. Personally, I feel sympathy to a degree, but its not like SKOR has Canada as northern neighbors. SKOR is soft. I lived there and I think they defer too much responsibility to the U.S., meanwhile living the high life partying, drinking, importing hookers and indentured servants. SKOR is out of touch and may well go down the tubes. Some very sweet people will pay the price for the decadent ones.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 05/21/2010 11:51 Comments || Top||

#15  haven't they already committed an act of war?

Actually, they've committed plenty of acts of war over the years. From what I've heard, it was the U.S. that never let the South Korean army respond... and it remains to be seen whether President obama will allow anything beyond going to the U.N. for more useless sanctions.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/21/2010 12:23 Comments || Top||

#16  My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, is that we have only a token force in Korea so the bulk of the defense would be on the SKORS. If they can't hack it they might be in trouble especially with a twerp like Obama in the White House. But I've heard differing opinions on the state of the SKOR military. Some say they are badass tough. Others say they are soft. It'd be a shame if we have to find out. I still think peace through strength is a sound policy but Obama doesn't look strong.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 05/21/2010 12:27 Comments || Top||

#17  Girl Thursday: The South Korean army is larger than the American one, in spite of the fact that their country is much smaller. From what I've heard from US Army people who have worked with them, their troops are very tough.

But simply put, the international legal environment has lead to a situation where North Korea has The Bomb, and South Korea _doesn't_. We helped enforce that, our carrots and our sticks _and_ our promise of a nuclear umbrella are why South Korea never developed The Bomb for their own, despite being capable of doing so. This leads to an unbalanced situation where it doesn't matter how tough the South Korean army is or isn't, the North is guaranteed existance no matter how much of a ^&%up they really are.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 12:29 Comments || Top||

#18  Frankly, South Kor needs to act on its own behalf and kick us out like they picket and threaten to do all the time. Healing will only come when the 'delicate balance' is disturbed. Then SKorea can face its enemy and reckoning can begin. The U.S. needs our troops elsewhere anyway- like our border with Mexico, IMHO!!! Who is going to help US out with that?
Posted by: GirlThursday || 05/21/2010 12:30 Comments || Top||

#19  And BTW, trying to estimate our troop, equipment and missile strength in the peninsula is useless. You, I, and everyone, unless you have the clearance, don't have the facts.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 05/21/2010 12:33 Comments || Top||

#20  And BTW, trying to estimate our troop, equipment and missile strength in the peninsula is useless. You, I, and everyone, unless you have the clearance, don't have the facts.

I wasn't talking about the penninsula. I was talking about absolute sizes. We have some fifteen divisions of active-duty infantry; they have twenty-eight or so.

Frankly, South Kor needs to act on its own behalf and kick us out like they picket and threaten to do all the time. Healing will only come when the 'delicate balance' is disturbed. Then SKorea can face its enemy and reckoning can begin. The U.S. needs our troops elsewhere anyway- like our border with Mexico, IMHO!!! Who is going to help US out with that?

So you're basically going to be happy to have set up a situation where the South Koreans are dependent on the US nuclear deterrent to keep North Korea at bay and then leave?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 12:42 Comments || Top||

#21  And it's not like we're short the troops to secure the border with Mexico anyway, we just lack the will to use them.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 12:44 Comments || Top||

#22  No, I said SKor should kick us out like manyu disgruntled citizens yearn for and threaten to do. And then they can begin to build their own arsenal once the gridlock is over. And we lost 55,000 there, lets not forget. What has SKor really done for us lately?
Posted by: GirlThursday || 05/21/2010 12:55 Comments || Top||

#23  In that situation the North has a strong chance of getting ahold of the manufacturing infrastructure of the South. You remember manufacturing, it's one of those things we used to do for ourselves in previous centuries.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 13:10 Comments || Top||

#24  Perish the thought. At the risk of sounding flip, Maybe Skor should try to manufacture things like bombs in addition to cell phones and Hyundais.
Posted by: Richelieu || 05/21/2010 13:38 Comments || Top||

#25  They manufacture very good rifles, tanks, APC's, destroyers, warplanes, and other equipment. The only thing they're missing from their portfolio, really, is nuclear bombs.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/21/2010 14:36 Comments || Top||

#26  Actually, it was about 36,000 American deaths. The bean counters just threw in a losses in the period in one big number. They corrected it a number of years back, but the old number cited still floats around because its near the same number as Vietnam.

As for what the SKors have done. Sent troops to fight along side Americans in S.Vietnam. Was one of the largest troop commitments to the recent operations in Iraq and will now send troops to Afghanistan. They've been there.

The NKors know that if they actually initiate a conflict, they're toast. They play the game of the little sister smacking her bigger brother knowing that mom won't allow real retaliation.

What the SKors can do is a partial mobilization and deployment up to the border. That would force the NKors to preposition materials as well which would drain their meager resources for just about anything involving food and fuel, diverting it from critical infrastructure sustainment. Then have the Chinese graciously 'defuse' the situation allowing everyone to stand down. The NKors however will find they have a lot less material to make do with the next day. It'll get the point home. With the internal fight going on inside Pyongyang, the players will think twice before eating up critical resources with another such display with repeated consequences that they may need in their hierarchical positioning game.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/21/2010 17:56 Comments || Top||

#27  This: If you want to get technical with no citation its around 30,000 U.S. KIA and around 5,000 MIA and 92,000 wounded.

As for the commitment in Viet Nam, point blank, bucket meet your drop of water?

Approximately 320,000 South Korean soldiers were sent to Vietnam, each serving a one year tour of duty. Maximum troop levels peaked at 50,000 in 1968, however all were withdrawn by 1973.[191] About 5,000 South Koreans were killed and 11,000 were injured during the war. Nice assist, but an appalling comparison in terms of sacrifice.

All said, the longer SKor uses us as a crutch the longer this charade can continue. I still assert that South Korea should be responsible for their own security, and have the technological, scientific and manufacturing know-how to do it. Given time, and the beginnings of a scheduled "phase out" of our troops they should be making bombs like a one legged man in a kicking contest. However, our presence dulls the incentive. Call me heartless, I see only a thorough shake up would wake the complacent out of their slumber. Or they can continue getting picked off by Norks. Choice is theirs.

And this:
'Proceeding against the advice of my cardiologist, I must concede that for once, Ron Paul is actually on to something. The ground component of U.S. Forces Korea costs U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars a year to maintain. It is just as unaffordable as a political liability on the South Korean street. We should withdraw it. Every Saturday night off-post brawl is a headline in the muck-raking Korean press, for which the American soldier is inevitably blamed, and for which angry mobs perpetually demand renegotiations of the Status of Force Agreement to give Korea’s not-even-remotely-fair judicial system more jurisdiction over American soldiers.

The South Korean people do not appreciate the security our soldiers provide. The way some of them treat our soldiers ought to be a national scandal. Many off-post businesses don’t even let Americans through their front doors. The degree of anti-Americanism in South Korea is sufficient to be a significant force protection issue in the event of hostilities.

South Korea does not have our back. South Korea made much of the fact that it sent 3,000 soldiers to Iraq, where they sat behind concrete barriers in a secure Kurdish area of Iraq, protected by peshmerga, making no military contribution and taking no combat casualties. Their contribution to the effort in Afghanistan has been negligible, which is more than can be said of their contribution to the Taliban (previous President Roh Moo Hyun reportedly paid them a ransom of up to $20 million in 2007 to free South Korean hostages who took it upon themselves to charter a shiny new bus to bring Christianity to Kandahar). South Korea has been an equally unsteady ally against China.

The American security blanket has fostered a state of national adolescence by the South Korean public. Too many of them (some polls suggest most) see America as a barrier to reunification with their ethnic kindred in the North. Maybe nothing short of a North Korean attack on the South can encourage more sober thinking by South Koreans about their own security, but I suspect a greater sense of self-reliance and even vulnerability might.'

http://newledger.com/2010/04/25646/
Posted by: GirlThursday || 05/21/2010 18:41 Comments || Top||

#28  GT, if you go back over my numerous posts, I've advocated the withdraw or significant draw down of American forces from first world countries and alliances for quite a while. Yes, it is time for others to do their own security. However, I will not denigrate contributions they've made in the absence of other countries who contributed nothing in the fight against the threats.

As to the Korean people, the older people still remember. It's the younger generation that has no appreciation for what was given. Any different than the Euros in large part today? This Eastern European generation has appreciation for American resolve that liberated them, the the Western societies are long beyond the devastation of WWII and the Marshall Plan to care. How much different is that really from our own population that takes granted the payment in losses to preserve a Constitution that so many treat was nothing more than a piece of paper that stands between them and doing what they want to do. It's the old saying, familiarity breeds contempt.

Too many of them (some polls suggest most) see America as a barrier to reunification with their ethnic kindred in the North.

I was in Korea in 1988 when the youths played the game. The American Commander in country had the guts to point out that we had reunified the country in November 1950. That it was the intervention of a couple hundred thousand Chinese that resulted in the division. The usual suspects dropped that line for a while afterward.

If you want citation, try this.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/21/2010 19:29 Comments || Top||

#29  TFSM, the trheat to Seoul is basedon NKor artillery.

Seriously, what do you think the life expectancy of an NKor artilleryman crewing that stuff that's capable of firing 30KM? Or those supplying the ammo? The minute one shell comes up on firefinder wiht a hostile trajectory, over the border counterbattery begins that is much more accurate than they anticipate.

I am not denying Seoul would take damage, but not such that it would be irreparable. Bit its also pretty clear that it would NOT be advisable to be servile against a threat that will get better with its nukes over time, as the conventional capacity declines.

As for Nukes they've fired off 2 duds under fully controlled test conditions - so how much confidence would you have in a full detonation in a combat launch or drop? Plus their launch vehicles have proven unreliable and unstable. And finally, a nuke there would provoke a nuclear response from the US against Pyongyang and a suitable number of warheads aimed at Dear Leaders (concrete) hole.

Whats left of them would be hung as war criminals.

Make that fate clear to them AND the Chinese.
Posted by: OldSpook || 05/21/2010 21:06 Comments || Top||

#30  ION NEWS KERALA/TOPIX > NORTH KOREA: PENINSULAR HEADING TOWARDS WAR + NORTH KOREA WARNS OF ]ALL-OUT WAR EVEN AS CHINA URGES CAUTION [NK warns it will not hesitate to attack] + NORTH KOREA THREATENS TO FREEZE RELATIONS, END ARMISTICE/
RESUME WAR AGZ SOUTH.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/21/2010 22:55 Comments || Top||


Europe
Crisis Fuels Rise in Left-Wing Extremist Violence - Der Spiegel
Following the 2007 protests at the G-8 meeting in Heiligendamm, the number of attacks by leftist extremists has risen dramatically in Germany. The government is increasing its focus on the autonomists, but authorities know little about a new generation that is torching cars, and worse, in its fight. By SPIEGEL Staff

The man is a member of Berlin's left-wing radical autonomist movement, and he's engaged in a struggle against the system. If a few things have to go up in flames as part of that struggle, it doesn't usually bother him too much. But there are limits -- and the deaths of three people recently in Greece, employees at a bank where someone threw a firebomb, have left him contemplating them.

"I never imagined something like this," the man says. He's come to a cafe at Kottbusser Tor in Berlin's diverse Kreuzberg district to talk about left-wing militancy in Germany. In his mid-twenties, he's wearing a baseball cap and a t-shirt bearing the logo of the Zapatistas, Mexico's left-wing guerrilla movement. He gives no name, revealing only that he was involved in organizing the May 1 protest in Berlin and that he belongs to an anti-fascist group.
Continued on Page 49
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#1  What doesn't fuel left-wing extremist violence?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 05/21/2010 10:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Only 6,000 "potential militant activists"? An increase of... 1,000? This seems way overblown. Doesn't even begin to compare to the Roter Morgen or Red Army Faction days. Not even close.

It seems the real trend in Germany and probably elsewhere as well is to move inward, to reject extranational associations and global institutions, not to embrace globalism of either the capitalist or the left-wing radical varieties.
Posted by: lex || 05/21/2010 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Not "workers of the world, unite" but "on doit cultiver son jardin."
Posted by: lex || 05/21/2010 10:37 Comments || Top||

#4  a whiff of grapeshot should explain their situation.
Posted by: Frank G || 05/21/2010 21:58 Comments || Top||


Military Leader of ETA Under Arrest
French and Spanish authorities have arrested six alleged members of ETA, including the reported military leader of the Basque separatist group. The French Interior Ministry said the arrests of the ETA members took place in the French Basque region. Among those nabbed was ETA's presumed military chief, Mikel Karrera Sarobe, and two others.
Good job, officers!
Spain's Interior Ministry said three other suspected members were arrested in a separate location along with one of their companions. The arrests were made by French police and the Spanish Civil Guards.

If confirmed, the arrest of ETA's military chief is the latest in a series setbacks for the separatist group, which has waged a bloody campaign for an independent Basque state in parts of northern Spain and southwestern France. ETA is blamed for the deaths of more than 800 people during the past four decades, with most of the assassinations taking place in Spain.

French ETA expert Christian Aguerre says the arrests underscore the group's increasing weakness. French and Spanish authorities have arrested five other ETA leaders during the past two years. Aguerre said that in the 1980s and 1990s, authorities arrested key ETA members every few years. Today, it is happening every few months. The replacements are increasingly young and inexperienced.

ETA has increasingly lost support among ordinary Basques, partly because of its bloody tactics. At the same time, Aguerre notes, it has always been able to find young, disenfranchised Basques to join its cause.
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Home Front: WoT
Taliban may be planning future attacks in Washington the New York
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/21/2010 14:25 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This was in the same article I posted which observed that of the 30 plots uncovered, half had come during the present administration.

Lessee ... two plots a year when Bush was in office, one per month with Obama. What is the probability of a sucessful attack, I wonder?
Posted by: Bobby || 05/21/2010 18:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Taliban and Al Q working on attacks on US soil.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Abu Sayyaf Group, Jaish-e-Mohammed and a few dozen more may join in at any time.
Posted by: lord garth || 05/21/2010 18:39 Comments || Top||

#3  "Taliban may be IS planning future attacks in Washington and New York" and damned soon, too.

Fixed.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/21/2010 20:12 Comments || Top||

#4  See also NEWS KERALA/BHARAT RAKSHAK/TOPIX > PAK TALIBAN "PLOT" PUTS US ON ALERT + US [covertly/
quietly]DEPLOYS HUNDREDS OF FEDERAL AGENTS TO CITIES AFTER SHAHZAD ARREST [interrogation by Fed-US Prosecutors].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/21/2010 22:45 Comments || Top||


Kansas City Man Admits to Sending Money to Al-Qaida
KANSAS CITY, MO - A 32-year-old Kansas City man has plead guilty to wiring money to Al-Qaida. Khalid Ouazzani, a Moroccan native, plead guilty to charges of bank fraud and money laundering Wednesday morning in federal court. It's the first time in the area that a US citizen has been indicted for sending money to terrorist organizations.
That's part of the problem; we've had plenty doing this and he's the first one indicted.
US Attorney Beth Phillips said Ouazzani became a US citizen about four years ago, but court papers say he swore an oath of allegiance to Al-Qaida in June 2008 and supported the terrorist group financially since August 2007.

Ouazzani and his family worshipped at the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City. The Muslim community in this pocket of Kansas City says that they hope their neighbors will choose to focus on Ouazzani's actions as a reflection on the individual, not his faith. Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City manager Mustafa Hussein gave FOX 4 News a statement saying "the person is guilty for his work, not because he is Muslim."
This article starring:
Khalid Ouazzani
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "the person is guilty for his work, not because he is Muslim."

So you recognize that he is a Muslim then, Mustafa?

Is he a "Good Muslim", or a "Bad Muslim", or just a "Naughty Muslim".

If he were claiming to be a Christian, I would be the first to declare that I considered him, his faith and his works to be non-Christian.

...But they would call that kind of thing "Takfiri", which leads to "Fitna", or strife within the various warring factions of this divisive cult known as "Ummah"
Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar || 05/21/2010 9:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The Muslim community in this pocket of Kansas City says that they hope their neighbors will choose to focus on Ouazzani's actions as a reflection on the individual, not his faith.

Interpretation: The Muslim community in this pocket of Kansas City says that they hope the Federal Authorities won't take a closer look at other members of the community, and their neighbors will not be more vigilant of their activities.
Posted by: Keeney || 05/21/2010 11:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Could he be tried for treason? Is this a plea bargain or is treason not in the cards?
Posted by: regular joe || 05/21/2010 12:01 Comments || Top||

#4 
Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City manager Mustafa Hussein gave FOX 4 News a statement saying "the person is guilty for his works of faith, not because he is Muslim."


FTFY.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 05/21/2010 12:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I am shocked. I thought for certain this man was going to be a Tea Party member, or an radical Amish or Mormon.

"theperson is guilty for his works of faith, not because he is Muslim."

This group is the master of saying nothing.
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/21/2010 12:30 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Kashmir Korpse Kount
SRINAGAR: An Indian policeman and five suspected militants, including two commanders wanted by the authorities, were killed in two separate gun battles in Indian-held Kashmir (IHK), police said on Thursday.

The overnight clashes took place in the southern Pulwama and Doda districts, a police spokesperson said in Srinagar, the summer capital of IHK.

“Among the dead were two militant commanders wanted by the security forces,' the spokesman said.

Security officials have warned of a possible escalation in violence after the Indian military said last month that 400 militants were poised to cross into IHK from the Pakistani side of the disputed Himalayan region.
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14 more die in Karachi target killings
KARACHI: Fourteen more people, including a policeman, were shot and killed in the city in fresh incidents of target killings on Thursday, bringing the death toll to 38 since Tuesday. Riots, sporadic firing and protests continued across the city that was gripped with panic and fear.

Several ANP activists blocked the MT Khan Road in protest. Heavy contingents of law enforcers rushed to the spot, but the protesters pelted them with stones, resulting in the personnel opting for aerial firing and using teargas.

According to reports, armed suspects killed two young men early on Thursday in Abbas Town, Abul Hassan Ispahani Road.

An MQM activist was killed near the Powerhouse Graveyard in Federal B Area. Taimuria police said Sajid Karim was on his way home when armed suspects intercepted, tortured and killed him.

A police constable was also killed in the Risala police precincts. Police said Asadullah was injured when unidentified suspects shot him near Ranchore Line. He was rushed to hospital but he died, the police added.

A bullet-riddled body was found in the Surjani police precincts. Police said unidentified suspects had dumped the body after killing the victim. The body was shifted to the morgue, the police added.

Another unidentified body was found near the Mauripur Road. The Agra Taj police said the body had been shifted to the morgue after autopsy, while they registered an FIR against unidentified culprits.

Moreover, Peerabad SHO Rahim Khan said a man, Bakhti Muhammad, was killed by two men on a motorcycle in Orangi No 5.
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Mehsud ‘peace broker' shot dead in Tank
PESHAWAR: A former Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) MNA and leading Mehsud tribe member who had played the part of a peace broker between the government and the Taliban, Maulana Mirajuddin, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen near South Waziristan, officials said on Thursday.

“Two gunmen riding a motorcycle shot and killed Maulana Mirajuddin as he was returning from morning prayers on the outskirts of Tank... the attackers fled the scene after shooting the leader,' police sources told Daily Times by phone from Tank.

No group has so far claimed responsibility for the killing, however, a JUI-F leader said the Taliban was not responsible for murdering Mirajuddin. “It was not the Taliban, however the government may have been responsible for the killing,' Maulana Niaz Ali Shah, the JUI-F information secretary in the Mehsud areas of South Waziristan, told reporters.
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24 terrorists killed in fresh Orakzai blitz
HANGU: Pakistan Air Force (PAF) fighter jets bombed different parts of Orakzai Agency killing 24 terrorists and injuring 29, security sources said on Thursday.

According to sources, the fighter jets bombed the Sam Dara, Dabori, Mullah Khel Kaley and Hassanzai areas of the Upper Orakzai Agency. Three hideouts and vehicles belonging to terrorists were also destroyed in the operation. Security forces launched the Orakzai offensive on March 24 in a bid to flush out the Taliban who escaped last year's major assault on South Waziristan, where the TTP leadership had its headquarters.
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Forces arrest 6 suspects, recover arms in Bajaur
BAJAUR AGENCY: Security forces on Thursday arrested six suspects and recovered arms and ammunition during a search operation in different parts of Bajaur Agency. According to sources, the search operation was carried out in Salarzai, Mohmand and Manro Zangal tehsils of the agency. The arrested suspects were shifted to an undisclosed location for interrogation while the recovered arms and ammunition including rocket launchers and kalashnikovs were taken into custody.

Separately, 100 families, displaced due to military operations, returned to their homes in the Bajaur Agency. According to political authorities, around 1200 displaced families have returned to their homes until now.
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Iraq
Turkish planes bomb targets in Northern Iraq
Turkish military aircraft bombed Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq in an operation said be the largest in one-and-half years, Turkish broadcasters and an army source said on Thursday.

The raid by some 20 planes hit nearly 50 targets in northern Iraq's Zab valley area, the NTV television channel said. The state Anatolian news agency also reported an aerial operation against the militants in northern Iraq.

The Anatolian said "a terrorist group" was spotted approaching the Turkish border and the aircraft attacked the group in an operation lasting for an hour.

A senior army source in the southeast said a second aerial bombardment was continuing against the PKK targets in the evening hours.

The source said Thursday's raid was the largest over the last one-and-half years and targeted the PKK underground shelters in addition to rebel groups in movement. There was no information on possible PKK casualties.

On May 8, Turkish army forces pursued Kurdish guerrillas into northern Iraq and struck suspected targets with helicopter gunships and drones, killing at least five rebels.

The Iraqi government has protested against Turkish land incursions aimed at rooting out the PKK. In February 2008, the military staged a ground incursion with 10,000 troops. It also regularly bombards suspected PKK targets from the air.

The PKK took up arms against the Turkish state in 1984 in a conflict that has claimed 40,000 lives.

The rebels, who are mainly based in Iraqi Kurdistan, say they are fighting for greater political rights for Turkey's estimated 15 million Kurds. The United States and the European Union both label the PKK a terrorist organization.
Posted by: lotp || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION TROJANS/OTTOMANS, TOPIX > [Turkic HAWK ADS]MISSLES IN TURKEY TO PROTECT DAMASCUS [Syria];

and

SAME > VARIOUS > TURKEY DEMANDS IRAN DELIVER URANIUM IN ONE MONTH, or TEHRAN = IRAN can kiss its new URANIUM SWAP/ENERGY DEAL wid ANKARA goodbye.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/21/2010 0:23 Comments || Top||


3 al-Qaeda gunmen detained in Diala
DIALA / Aswat al-Iraq: Security forces on Thursday arrested three gunmen involved in killing a cleric in Diala, according to a security source.

“The three gunmen have been arrested during a military operation in al-Saadiya district in Khanaqin, east of Baaquba, for their involvement ion killing Abdullah Shakour, a cleric,' the source told Aswat al-Iraq news agency.B

aaquba, the capital of Diala, lies 57 km northeast of Baghdad.
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Gunmen kill 2 cops in Mosul
NINEWA / Aswat al-Iraq: Two policemen were killed in an armed attack by gunmen on a checkpoint in central Mosul city on Thursday, a local security source said.

“Unidentified gunmen attacked a police checkpoint in the area of al-Okaydat, central Mosul, leaving two policemen injured,' the source told Aswsat al-Iraq news agency.

“The gunmen later escaped into the alleys of the area before security forces sealed them off in search of the attackers,' the source added.
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Two Islamic Jihadis killed after crossing Israeli border
Two Palestinians were shot dead Friday after they crossed into Israel from Gaza, the Israeli Defense Forces reported.

Palestinians infiltrated into Israel near Kibbutz Nirim, prompting an exchange of gunfire, the IDF said. No Israeli soldiers were injured in the skirmish. Islamic Jihad sources said the two Palestinians belonged to that terrorist militant group.

Earlier, the Israeli Air Force struck three tunnels in Gaza that it said were dug close to the security fence and were intended for executing terror attacks. The IDF said the attacks were in response to rockets that hit Israeli territory in the past two days.
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Israel releases Hamas man jailed after Shalit capture
Israel has released a leading Hamas figure jailed after the captured of an Israeli soldier by militants in Gaza almost four years ago.

Muhammad Abu Tir was one of at least 60 top Hamas officials arrested and detained by Israel after Gilad Shalit was captured in 2006. They were charged with belonging to an illegal organisation and associating with terrorists. Nine other Hamas legislators have been released in recent months.

Israeli military officials told the Haaretz newspaper that their release was not connected to a prisoner swap deal for the now 23-year-old soldier.

"I don't want Shalit to remain in captivity, just as I did not like captivity," Israeli media quoted Mr Abu Tir as saying. "But the Israeli leadership prevented the deal. The Israeli leadership must be realistic in handling this issue."

Hamas want hundreds of Palestinians held by Israel, including senior militant leaders that Israel holds responsible for the deaths of dozens of Israeli citizens, to be freed in exchange for Sgt Shalit's release.

Mr Abu Tir, known for his bright red henna-dyed beard, is the member of the Palestinian Legislative Council representing East Jerusalem. The 58-year-old has spent nearly 30 years in Israeli jails.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  what is that, an orangutan around his neck?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/21/2010 10:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Dr Zauis
Posted by: Beavis || 05/21/2010 10:22 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Thai terrorists gun down nurse
A senior nurse at the hospital inside Ingkayuth Boriharn military camp in Pattani was killed in a drive-by shooting in Pattani's Thung Yangdaeng district on Friday morning, police said.

Maj Narathip Kaewthaworn, 47, was attacked while riding a motorcycle to the hospital on the Pattani-Yala road at Yangdaeng village of Thung Yangdaeng district by two men on a motorcycle. She was shot in the head and pronounced dead soon after being taken to the nearby Khok Pho hospital.

Police blamed terrorists separatist militants.
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Good morning
Posted by: Steve White || 05/21/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Happy Birthday/Daily Gam Shot

Kay Kendall aka Sybil Wren in "Les Girls" (Died in 1959 at age 33)

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 05/21/2010 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Yow^2
Posted by: gorb || 05/21/2010 4:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry, but Myrna looks seriously baked in that picture.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 05/21/2010 12:07 Comments || Top||

#4  In 1955 Kendall starred opposite Rex Harrison in the comedy The Constant Husband, and an affair soon followed. Harrison was married to actress Lilli Palmer at the time. However, when he learned from Kendall's doctor that Kendall had been diagnosed with myeloid leukemia, he and Palmer agreed to divorce so he could marry Kendall and provide for her care. Kendall was never told of her illness and ended up believing she merely had an iron deficiency. As for the divorce, Palmer said she was not upset because she had a lover, too. Palmer and Harrison planned to remarry after Kendall's death, but Palmer ended up falling in love with her companion, Carlos Thompson, and married him instead.

The doctor didn't tell her she had a terminal illness??? Seems irresponsible.
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/21/2010 12:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Frequently happened that way in those times. Idea was to spare the patient. Seems stupid today but that's how it was.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/21/2010 12:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Seems stupid today but that's how it was.

Wonder which of today's standard medical procedures will seem utterly stupid a few decades from now.

Dr Steve, any guesses?
Posted by: lex || 05/21/2010 13:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Anything expensive or anything after you've retired. Unless you are a member of the privileged class, of course. Then you'll have to go to Canada.
Posted by: gorb || 05/21/2010 23:19 Comments || Top||



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