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Afghanistan: Boom-free election
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Arabia
Nayef asks media to help put out the Saudi line
Saudi Arabia's interior minister appealed to regional news media Saturday to help combat "improper ideas" that lead young people to support extremist movements. Speaking before a meeting with his counterparts from Persian Gulf nations, Prince Nayef said Arab journalists need to confront Islamic militancy. "We insist that the media participates with us in fighting terrorism," he said. "No matter how hard we work and no matter what the security apparatus does, it is not the solution. The solution is in an intellectual effort that removes these improper ideas and brings back to the right path those who went astray."

He also said Gulf countries are committed to uprooting terrorism. "Terrorism is rejected and, unfortunately, I say with pain that those who carry it out are citizens of ours, and it is attributed to Muslims and Arabs," he said.

The prince raised the media issue to avoid responding directly to a question about Saudi reaction to Thursday night's coordinated bombing attacks on Israeli tourists in the Egyptian resorts of Taba and Ras Shitan. Some Israeli officials believe the al-Qaida terror network was most likely behind the attack. Condemning attacks against Israelis is awkward for Arab governments, whose peoples' sympathies lie firmly with the Palestinians in their fight with Israel.

Abdulrahman al-Attiyah, secretary general of the Gulf Cooperation Council, also sidestepped direct condemnation of the attacks. The six-nation group believes "the lack of a fair and comprehensive peace for all parties on the issue of Palestine and the Middle East motivates such acts," he said. "What happened at the Taba Hilton should not be looked at in isolation of this truth."

Nayef said the government's crackdown on militants has killed important operatives "but we can't say (terrorism) is over until we are sure of that on the ground."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/09/2004 1:31:03 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  with all that "wink-wink" going on he probably just convinced them he had a facial tic
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  FUCKA BUNCHA SAUDIS!
Posted by: Glereger Cligum6229 || 10/09/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Easy for you to say.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||


Britain
Muslim cleric wants 'women of mass destruction'
In a tape seized by authorities, radical Islamic cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri is heard urging Muslim women to breed children for the purpose of creating suicide bombers. Lauding a mother who encouraged her son to carry out a suicide bombing in Israel, the British-based leader said in the lecture: "Everywhere, these are the women of mass destruction to the kuffar [unbelievers], and these are the action [sic] that put terror in their hearts."

The recording, one of dozens handed over to authorities, was reported by British investigative journalist Neil Doyle in his new book "Terror Tracker," which chronicles his efforts to penetrate the internal workings of the al-Qaida terrorist network. Hamza has been indicted by the U.S. on 11 terrorism charges. Authorities are studying the tape to build a case for the cleric's extradiction to the U.S, Doyle said. The recordings were discovered by a British undercover investigator who infiltrated Hamza's group at the Finsbury Park mosque in London. In the lecture reported by Doyle, Hamza refers to a suicide bombing in Israel and says:
"Last week we seen a mother ... she put happiness in the hearts of every Muslim on earth and for years to come. She took her son, she took him herself, and she filmed a video with him for him to go and do a martyrdom operation against the Zionists. She's encouraging him. She's left a message for the Ummah [Islamic nation] — 'this is my son, I'm giving him for you, for the Ummah of Mohammad to wake up, for the mothers to follow!' And he wrote a will and said how much his mother she was encouraging him. And she was waiting all night and after that he went for his mission. Waiting all night, not for the news that her son had passed his A-level [British school exam] or he has got his degree, or he has married the most beautiful woman in the club, but he was shaheed [martyred] and he inflict a lot of suffering and terror in the hearts of Zionists! ... this happened right now in the front of us, in the television [sic], we have seen the tape, you've seen the video — if you haven't seen it, go and ask for it! Everywhere, these are the women of mass destruction to the kuffar [unbelievers], and these are the action [sic] that put terror in their hearts. This kind of women, when they miss their killed children, they don't go and look for their graves ... they look for their position in paradise, so they become more happy, more anxious to go and see them, they want to sacrifice more and more."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/09/2004 5:14:39 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ever notice people like this are always right there at the fore front pushing others to do the work they have no balls to do them selves
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/09/2004 6:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes. An appropriate punishment for this coward is to wrap him in explosives and detonate him somewhere where he can't do any harm to others.
Posted by: Bryan || 10/09/2004 7:21 Comments || Top||

#3  We in the west want our women to dress in a sexy fashion so that they become Women of Mass Destraction.
Posted by: Bryan || 10/09/2004 7:24 Comments || Top||

#4  This is what an evolutionary dead-end looks like.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 8:03 Comments || Top||

#5  "Mammas, Do Make Your Babies Grow Up to Be Splodeys"
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 10/09/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#6  why isn't he dead?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 9:48 Comments || Top||

#7  They should put a petard into his ass and fire it. One small enough for him having a sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow death.
Posted by: JFM || 10/09/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#8  Petard
Haven't heard that in a while. Put in a long fuse to give Abu a chance to dig it out, using his hooks.
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 10:28 Comments || Top||

#9  I got the word from the "Churchill Petard" a special tank used in D-Day. It consisted of a Churchill tank (whose armor was thicker than Sherman's armor) and at end of a long set of metallic arms a BIG explosive charge (several hundreds of pounds). It was used for clearing obstacles and Germans.

I figured "petard" was the proper word for the small sticks of explosive fired by children at July 4th and similar celebrations.
Posted by: JFM || 10/09/2004 11:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Think of it as a 50th trimester abortion. Yes, I know that's harsh, but if the kids are birthed only to die before they reach adulthood, what else is it, really?

JFM, I think you may mean firecrackers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/09/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#11  I didn't know about the Churchhill Petard . I wouldn't want to be a crewman in that tank, or worse an infantryman supporting it.
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 11:28 Comments || Top||

#12  I'll a hoist a quicky petard.

why isn't he dead?

What frustrated Pali parents say about their stay at home 25 year old.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#13  The thing that really concerns me is the agonizingly long time that the Brits have pussyfooted around this guy. Hell, they even put him on the dole, IIRC. PC is a mental disease.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/09/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#14  Yo! Russia! This is one of the people you should KILL. With prejudice. As in chop him into pieces with a machete and take some home with you for later in a pigskin doggy bag.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/09/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#15  boy, they sure know how to sweeten up the deal; Benefits include-mutilation, bleeding, concussion, death...and .. a video! of the precious marterdumb to enjoy for years to come!
Posted by: an dalusian dog || 10/09/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||


City mourns murdered hostage Bigley
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/09/2004 03:27 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Colombia Seeks Help Demobilizing Militias
Posted by: Steve White || 10/09/2004 12:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let them consult the Afghanis. Look at how well its going over there :-D
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/09/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Kavkaz Center's back on-line
A Chechen rebel website has reopened on the internet - three weeks after it was temporarily shut down by the authorities in Lithuania. The website - kavkazcenter.com - carried a statement by Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev claiming responsibility for the Russian school siege in Beslan. The Lithuanian authorities argued that the website was inflaming ethnic and religious strife. In a statement published on Friday, the website rejected the accusations. "The Kavkaz-Tsentr staff categorically disagrees with the accusations and states that the agency in engaged in informing the public about events and reporting facts," the statement said.

Before the temporary closure on 17 September by Lithuania's state security department, the website - hosted by the Elneta service provider - operated from the Lithuanian capital, Vilnius. On Friday, it was accessible again as www.kavkazcenter.net. It is not yet clear if the website has changed its IP address, which - as some experts say - might mean that it has switched to another network. Lithuanian authorities have been trying to shut down the site since last year. The case has gone before the country's supreme court and a ruling is expected next year.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/09/2004 1:28:45 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A ruling is expected next year---next year???? On a site that encourages mass murder of children. What is the Lithuanian judicial system smoking?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/09/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#2  What is the Lithuanian judicial system smoking?

dead Russian schoolchildren (figuratively)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||


Europe
French cry foul over inspector's allegations of bribe-taking
France has called the White House to complain that senior members of its political elite stood wrongfully accused of taking large bribes from Saddam Hussein to end United Nations sanctions, as alleged in the final report of America's chief weapons inspector. France's ambassador to Washington, Jean-David Levitte, told the White House and the US State Department on Thursday of France's "displeasure" that French officials and companies were accused without having a chance to defend themselves. French diplomats expressed outrage that French officials had been named in the report while the identities of Americans had been blanked out in accordance with privacy laws. French identities included "the official spokesperson of President Jacques Chirac's re-election campaign, two reported 'counsellors' of Mr Chirac and two well-known businessmen". The report does not say if they received money. "Why does the law on privacy apply only to American citizens and not for others?" one French diplomat asked. "These are allegations which have not been verified. Individuals and companies have not been able to tell their side of the story yet their names have been tarnished."

Paris was particularly unhappy "that the names of individuals and companies were made public without any apparent attempt to verify the allegations, and without giving them an opportunity to explain themselves". Earlier, the French Foreign Ministry denied the allegations, calling them "unverified, either with those concerned or with the authorities of the concerned countries". The report said France had received 15 per cent of the volume of Iraqi oil exports. A former French interior minister, Charles Pasqua, was among several international figures accused by the chief US arms inspector, Charles Duelfer, of receiving lucrative oil contracts from Saddam as part of the dictator's drive to gain support for the lifting of UN sanctions. The Iraq Survey Group said in a report it had uncovered reams of official Iraqi documents showing how Saddam had diverted millions of dollars from the UN's oil-for-food program, a multibillion-dollar scheme intended to channel oil revenues to supplies for Iraq's poor and medicine for its sick. France and its government have been abhorred as traitors in large parts of the US heartland since the countdown to the Iraqi war last year, when Paris led the international opposition.
Posted by: Destro || 10/09/2004 3:59:21 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  no outrage for the bribe taking - only for the way the Americans handled it and that the American bribe takers weren't named. How French.
Posted by: 2b || 10/09/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#2  french comment about the inspector's allegation:

Tu m'emmerdes!—"You're bugging the shit out of me."

We are going to have to take this to the UN.

Posted by: John (Q. Citizen) || 10/09/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Squirm, froggy, squirm.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 10/09/2004 16:21 Comments || Top||

#4  France has called the White House to complain that senior members of its political elite stood wrongfully accused of taking large bribes from Saddam Hussein to end United Nations sanctions, as alleged in the final report of America’s chief weapons inspector.

Cry me a river, you little snail-eating turds.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/09/2004 20:11 Comments || Top||


France protests to US over Iraq corruption charges
France on Thursday complained to the United States over accusations that French nationals and businesses took bribes from Iraq made in a report by the chief US weapons inspector. The French embassy approached the White House and the US State Department to express anger at the way the allegations were made public.
The decorations at the press conference weren't tastful?
"The ambassador told the White House and the State Department of our displeasure concerning the methods used," an embassy official told AFP. The official said France was particularly unhappy about "the fact that the names of individuals and companies were made public without any apparent attempt to verify the allegations, and without giving them an opportunity to explain themselves."
"Marvin!"
"Yes, Mr. Secretary?"
"Make a note. 'The French are upset with us.'"
"Yes sir. File it the usual way, Mr. Secretary?"
"Yes, Marvin, right next to their support for us."
"Right away, Mr. Secretary."
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/09/2004 3:58:30 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The official said France was particularly unhappy about "the fact that the names of individuals and companies were made public without any apparent attempt to verify the allegations, and without giving them an opportunity to explain themselves."

Now, they can explain. We're listening...
Posted by: badanov || 10/09/2004 10:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Damn zAmericans. Now zcat iz out of zbag.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 10/09/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Next name their their numbered Swiss bank accounts and their mistresses' government paid love nest addresses.
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#4  No manners, this Bush. These are not subjects for polite, public, multi-lateral conversation. Bush has flunked yet another "global test".
Posted by: Tom || 10/09/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#5  I have toured the MSM French sites and there is NOTHING about this. It would be time Radio Free Europe and the Voice of America started targetting France.
Posted by: JFM || 10/09/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#6  JFM---any French bloggers interested in putting this information on their sites? Maybe if enough of them do it, some French MSM will have to eventually pick it up. I just do not know the dynamics of the French media.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/09/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Merde in France?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#8  Nice nuance there Tom.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 15:09 Comments || Top||

#9  Forget it, the MSM's already adopting the French Ambassador's spin: "Americans got vouchers, too!"

NPR gave this wretched creature about 20 seconds on their story Thrusday eve (with no counter-argument or contextual observation following). And this is the angle of Judith Miller's story in the NY Times today! Could have been scripted by the French Embassy.

I've given up on the MSM. Bring 'em down. Bloggers need to do to the NYT, C-BS etc what Howard Stern is doing to radio: use new media to outflank and outscore. SMASH THE MSM! And let a thousand blogs contend.
Posted by: lex || 10/09/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#10  You've got it wrong, Lex. We need to "correct" the MSM, just as we need to correct the French. I wrote about this on my blog a couple of days ago,
(http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/2004/10/journalisms-fear-of-new-media.html) in response to an article by Jay Rosen. Once we get the MSM to behaving, we can then take aim at the French (and a few hundred others) that have this tendency to believe they're the center of the Universe, and everything revolves around them. Focusing on them in the right way can make that somewhat true - they will become the center of the funnel spout, and all the s$$$ in the world will descend upon them in ample quantity. Maybe, just maybe, if they have to eat enough of that, they'll learn that other people have a very low opinion of them, and start to make some internal changes. After all, that's what really needs to happen to the MSM, so why not the French, the UN, the Russians, the...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/09/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#11  We need to "correct" the MSM

That reminds me of Gorbachev trying to "reform" Soviet communism. The rot runs too deep for it to be excised.

The problem goes beyond idiots like Pinch Sulzberger or Dan Blather. It's partly a problem with the old media's news format, which limits and constrains the number of news sources and story angles. Blogs can beat the MSM hands down IF they can find a way to translate reputational currency into monetary currency.

For ex, I'd trust Wretchard's (www.belmontclub.blogspot.com) angle before I'd trust anyt. I read under Judith Miller's byline. But Wretchard writes too infrequently. So we need a platform or a tool that can aggregate, and sift through, a thousand Wretchard equivalents and put them into a user-friendly, ebay/ticker/Bloomberg Financial prices format. This will put a spike in the MSM. And it will happen, soonah dan you tink.
Posted by: lex || 10/09/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Muslim group attempts late Florida vote dump
More on the article from day before yesterday...
Pushy activist brings box of 550 applications after close of county registration deadline
A pushy Muslim activist demanded a county elections office worker accept a box of 550 applications to vote after the close of business on the last day to register in Palm Beach County, Florida. According to a report in the Palm Beach Post, Theresa LePore attempted to close the office at 5 p.m. last Monday when a young man showed up 15 minutes after the deadline, insisting she accept a box of 550 applications on behalf of a group of Muslims determined to oust President Bush. LePore said the applications were attached to slips of paper identifying them as having been collected by Voting Is Power, which goes by the acronym VIP and is an offshoot of the Washington-based Muslim American Society. LePore had locked the door when the unidentified man showed up. She said she told him her office was closed, but that he could mail the forms as long as they were postmarked by midnight that night. "He started hollering about disenfranchising people," said LePore, who took the box after he thrust it at her.

She examined some of the applications and noticed that some were incomplete and others dated in July. LePore told the man he should have turned them in on time so the potential voters could have cast ballots in the Aug. 31 primary or corrected missing information. "Then he started saying, 'You're all alike,' or something to that effect, and 'It's better in New York,'" she said. "And I said, 'Why don't you go back to New York?' " LePore, who said she also let a few individuals turn in single registration forms until 6 p.m., was surprised to learn that VIP's parent group is the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, an organization that has a federal 501(c)3 designation for religious non-profits. The group claims it is non-partisan, but its political action committee has formally endorsed John Kerry for president. Florida is one of five battleground states Muslims have targeted for get-out-the-vote efforts, foundation Executive Director Mahdi Bray said Thursday. VIP recruiters in Florida registered about 7,000 new Muslim voters he hopes will go to the polls on Election Day and vote for Kerry, he said. "This administration's policy of preemptive war has destabilized the region," Bray said Thursday. "Many of us who know the region know that this can of worms this administration has opened, this mistaken policy, will haunt the Muslim world for years to come."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/09/2004 4:45:41 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmm, failure due to stupidity/incompetence, blaming others for your screwups, unwarranted aggression...

Yep, this sounds like a Mooselimb stunt, alright.
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 10/09/2004 8:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sure John F Kerry will have his lawyers all over this while any military ballot which does not have a stamp or was not signed in blue ink #4 will be discarded without question.

I wonder how many of these applicants actually live in Florida?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/09/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#3  In the light of all the voter fraud, there should be a massive vote purge and reregestration in the US. There is no way that present rolls can every be cleaned without some kind of major look through.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/09/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#4  But were the registrations accepted, or did he simply make an ass of himself ...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 10/09/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#5  "This administration’s policy of preemptive war has destabilized the region," Bray said Thursday.

It's the eponymy, stupid.
/Taranto.
Posted by: BH || 10/09/2004 23:23 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Bush says Arafat cannot lead new Palestinian state
President George W. Bush said Friday he would not deal with Yasser Arafat because he did not believe Arafat could lead an independent Palestinian state. "I wouldn't deal with Arafat because I felt like he had let the former president down and I don't think he's the kind of person that can lead toward a Palestinian state," Bush said during a debate here with Democratic presidential challenger Senator John Kerry. "People in Europe didn't like that decision," Bush went on. "But it was the right thing to do. I believe Palestinians ought to have a state, but I know they need leadership that's committed to a democracy and freedom, leadership that would be willing to reject terrorism." Arafat, the head of the Palestinian Authority, has been widely criticised by the current US administration for failing to follow through on peace accords, brokered by the previous administration of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 12:45:52 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This may be the "Green Light" Israel is looking for, for Arafat's demise. At this point, Arafat should resign the 'Presidency' and head for immediate exile into the EU; ala Jean-Bertrand Aristide!
Posted by: smn || 10/09/2004 1:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Think Suha would have him in Paris?
Posted by: Steve White || 10/09/2004 1:09 Comments || Top||

#3  If I was Sharon, and that happened, it'd break my heart.
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||

#4  As long as he knows his place in Suha's house and keep his butt ugly bewhiskered jowls in the pantry with the servants...

but then again, perhaps he can bleach his hair, shave and ditch the Abu rag and become a real Parisian play-boyee for a year or two, beeyatch.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 10/09/2004 1:59 Comments || Top||

#5  I believe Palestinians ought to have a state,..

What have they done to deserve one?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/09/2004 2:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Bush was being Bush and in terms of Arafat, the old camel face was told, ...you do not count, for anything.

Maybe now Israel can deal with Arafat's 40 years terrorism once and for all.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/09/2004 2:48 Comments || Top||

#7  I don't where AraFART ends up, if he leaves Branch Davidian compound, look for a death by "heart attack"(wink wink), courtesy of the Mossaaaad.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 10/09/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Hell, Arafish can't even lead the old "Palestinian" state.

Though he's mostly responsible for the state they're in.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/09/2004 20:05 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Islam and Women
From Policy Review, an article by Lauren Weiner
.... Islamism didn't come to full fruition until the 1970s, starting to win large numbers of adherents at the precise moment that feminism was at the height of its political power in America and Europe and gaining a foothold in the urban centers of the less developed countries. The Moroccan sociologist Fatima Mernissi draws the connection very directly in Beyond the Veil: Male-Female Dynamics in Modern Muslim Society (Indiana University Press, revised edition 1987). Mernissi's book, first published in 1975, addresses the vast changes in Muslim societies as the European powers were relinquishing their colonies. Not only were rural populations migrating to the cities, but the universities in those cities — for centuries the exclusive preserve of local male aristocracies — were being democratized. Those whom Mernissi calls "traditionally marginalized and deprived male rural migrants" were for the first time permitted to seek higher education in Rabat, Lahore, Beirut, Amman, and other centers. So, too, were women.

The introduction of ideas of liberty and equality into these societies had effects that were complicated and in many cases subtle. Clearly discernible to Mernissi, however, was an antagonism that arose between nonveiling college women and the males who arrived in the universities along with them. The male parvenus, in the millions, glommed onto violently anti-Western strains of Islam out of a sense of pique. "What dismays the fundamentalists," Mernissi writes, "is that the era of [postcolonial] independence did not create an all-male new class. Women are taking part in the public feast." Newly urbanized and newly educated young men singled out modern women with diplomas and careers as the worst traitors to Islam. These zealots saw offenses against "real" Islam everywhere, but the uncovered women in their own midst were the ultimate heretics. That generation now constitutes the senior echelon of radical clerics issuing interpretations of Islamic law, or sharia, and the top level of terror networks such as al Qaeda and Jemaa Islamiya.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/09/2004 12:42:28 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Many historians of the US during its industrialization and urbanization period of the late 19th-early 20th century have written of the similar phenomenon of 'status anxiety' that bred reactionary religiosity (Scopes Trial) and bizarre 'Progressive' causes (Prohibition) here.

Progress, modernity, and technology run over these types of people like a train.

Every society has them. I saw one local politician running in the primaries last month vowing to protect my children from the internet!

Posted by: JDB || 10/09/2004 4:39 Comments || Top||

#2  the anti-islamist propaganda meme of call the hijab a "slave scarf" must be introduced and reiterated
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/09/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Islamic law revision promotes 'common sense among Muslims'
Talk about rare and precious commodities...
The chief researcher at the Ministry of Religious Affairs, Siti Musdah Mulia, caused controversy with her team's draft revision of the body of Islamic law, which among other things bans polygamy and introduces interfaith marriage. If approved, related laws such as the one on marriage would have to be amended. She spoke with The Jakarta Post's Muninggar Sri Saraswati about the controversy.
Question: Could you explain the background of the legal draft revision of the body of Islamic law introduced by your team?
There are several reasons, actually. It started in 2001 when the Office for the State Minister for Women's Empowerment introduced a policy, namely zero tolerance, which laid the foundation for a national drive against any form of violence. One form of violence that must be eliminated is culturally driven violence. We identified some of the roots of culturally driven violence in some of the articles in the body of Islamic law (KHI).

The second reason came in 2002, when the Directorate General of Religious Judiciary at the Ministry of Religious Affairs proposed a bill on religious courts for marriage and inheritance. But the draft only copied and pasted KHI's draft without any significant changes. Of course, it spelled out penalties. For example, those who practice polygamy in a way that is not in line with the law could face a Rp 20 million fine. But who would monitor for violations? Could the police do that as the ministry does not have officers?

Even if the law was strictly implemented, it would be prone to corruption. People would do anything to get Rp 20 million. It would be better to ban polygamy all at once instead. It would be very dangerous if the bill was deliberated and passed by the House of Representative as it is.

I heard the draft has been submitted by the Supreme Court, which took over the supervision of the religious courts in June, to get the President's consent before it is brought to the House. Imagine if we did nothing to the bill.

Some say your team's draft revision is a revolution in Islamic law.
I don't think so. For example, the ban against polygamy is not new to Muslim societies. It came into effect in Tunisia in 1959 and then Turkey.

Some mainstream Muslim figures say they will not approve the draft revision.
Of course, my team and I anticipated that. Some people in the ministry have also opposed the draft. But we expect people to open up their minds and see that the KHI is not sacred. It is debatable and revisable. It is laws made by humans and for our benefit. Why can't we be realistic and rational?

The KHI was introduced in 1991 through a presidential decree. What were the reasons behind its introduction?
It was issued because the government was very authoritarian. It was actually a response by the government to complaints by people about inconsistent verdicts by the religious courts because the courts used different fiqih (Islamic jurisprudence). There was no Islamic law unification back then. People were not used to the differences. Unfortunately, instead of educating people to accept differences, the government gathered ulemas and Islamic law experts to create the KHI for the sake of (political) stability.

Are you facing different challenges with this draft?
Yes, but I won't give up. Five years ago, no Indonesian imagined there would be a direct presidential election. And now we just held a peaceful direct presidential election. I know we are facing tougher challenges for this draft. It may take us more than five years. Religious issues cannot be taken for granted. Who can say that one opinion is the most authentic? The draft revision is not rigid, everyone is welcome to discuss it, without any political motives.

What has been the public response so far?
We have held a series of discussions and the opposition is unbelievable on two issues: Interfaith marriage and polygamy. Most of the participants could accept other articles in the draft. Some of them told me that if articles on interfaith marriage and polygamy were approved, they would prefer to be atheists.

What is the actual danger of interfaith marriage? Corruption is more dangerous than interfaith marriage, as the former harms the nation. Actually, Islam provides many opinions on interfaith marriage. I just cannot understand why it must be banned. You cannot agree with interfaith marriage, but you cannot order others to follow your belief.

Polygamy causes various social excesses, particularly at the expense of the abandoned wives and children whose status in society is affected. Actually, we believe Islam is monogamous. Polygamy is for prophets and those who have the same level as prophets, not for common human beings like us. People might boast they can uphold fairness in practicing polygamy, but why are 90 percent of polygamous marriages not registered with the state? They must hide their status. Therefore, our draft says that an Islamic marriage is not legal without registering it with the state.

Some Muslim figures may oppose you, but have you won support from other groups? Women groups, perhaps?
We have received some support. But, well, I am rather sad to say that most Muslim women do not understand their rights. They just take their religion for granted. They never question anything when it comes to religion despite some of them having obtained a master's or doctorate. You see, most of them think that being a housewife means you must do household chores without help from their husband. Come on, you don't need a womb to cook, do you? I understand that we live in a patriarchal society, but we must be rational and realistic.

Some people have accused your team of not having convincing arguments to back up some of the articles in the draft?
They may say that, but we studied thousands of books and fiqih over two years. We do not make a textual analysis only as a textbook does not talk; it's humans who talk. My team consists of seven men and three women. We are not paid for this work.
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 11:43:39 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well Siti. This seems blasphemous, i.e. having coming sense in the religion. Damn, you folks are going to look a little like Unitarians--except for the common sense part. Remember this means no more jihads for the hell of it. Excuse me while you work it out. I have to go watch football, it makes sense.
Posted by: John (Q. Citizen) || 10/09/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#2  This lady can say what she likes, she isn't GOD and therfore has no right to change any laws. Do you really believe that any muslim will listen to this crackpot. I dunno where you dug this out from but the fact you think this has any relevance to Islam shows your naivety.
Posted by: Rubbish || 10/14/2004 21:07 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iranian intel: Tehran harboring bin Laden
Iran's cleric leaders are harboring Osama bin Laden, according to two Iranian intelligence officials cited in a new book. The sources say they have seen the al-Qaida terrorist leader alive and well, although he no longer resembles the picture on FBI wanted posters. Author Richard Miniter writes in "Shadow War: The Untold Story of How Bush Is Winning the War on Terror" that bin Laden "has trimmed his beard to fit the more traditional look of a Shi'ite cleric and he seemed to have put on weight, according to intelligence officials."
That'd be a function of hanging around with Qazi and Fazl, both of whom are fond of their chow...
The sources say bin Laden is constantly on the move, "shuttling from Iranian safe houses controlled by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to areas of Afghanistan controlled by the Iranian-backed warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar." "Choopan," one of the sources, gives three reasons why Tehran would give safe haven to bin Laden, risking the wrath of the West. "First, the Iranians believe they can keep bin Laden's presence a secret and plausibly deny it if publicly accused," Miniter writes. "Second, the mullahs are feeling increasingly threatened by the War on Terror. "The mullahs, Choopan says, fear a counter-revolution and see bin Laden's fighters as tools they can use to ensure the failure of these young democracies in Iraq and Afghanistan and the survival of mullah-dominated Iran. Finally, they share enemies, including many Arab leaders, the United States and the rest of the Western world." The book, launched earlier this week by Regnery, publisher of "Unfit for Command," already is No. 2 on the Amazon.com list.
Posted by: tipper || 10/09/2004 2:24:23 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The mullahs, Choopan says, fear a counter-revolution and see bin Laden’s fighters as tools they can use.." The mullahs are in for a huge jolt!

If it is true that Osama is slithering around in Iran, this could actually be good news, since when the time arrives for the mullahs to be toppled (one way or the other) because it's always nice to have all the top rats in one hiding in the same location.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/09/2004 3:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Add salt to taste, on this one::

Some intel reports say he is in Iran and some say is in northern Pakiland. Only one way to find out, pull out the industrial size Raid MAX Fogger on both places and make the roaches come out in the open.

Hey Mullaaas, would you like to neutron size that?
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 10/09/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  So that's where he's been hiding. Makes sense.
Posted by: ex-lib || 10/09/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  that pakistani guy that fox news uses for intel said the same thing
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/09/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Mansour Ijaz?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/09/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
BOSNIAN ORPHANS TRAINED TO FIGHT FOR AL-QAIDA IN CHECHNYA
Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily reported October 1 a Global Information System (GIS) report from Sarajevo that the Saudi and Iranian governments are working through Bosnian terrorist groups to support Chechen Islamist terrorist and guerilla operations against the Russian government.

A secret Wahabbi terrorist organization, Kvadrat (Quadrant), whose membership practice "Islam from the roots," was founded in Sarajevo in 1995. Kvadrat has expanded dramatically during 2004 in operations and funding by opening a new string of offices and facilities in Bosnia and in the Raska (Sandzak) Muslim area of southern Serbia. A new base for future operations is being built in Turkish-occupied Northern Cyprus.



"The young Kvadrat members have been brainwashed for a decade; since they were little children in most cases. They have been taught to believe that only their zealous approach to Islam is correct; they are fanatical."

The report claims that individuals who were orphaned as children during the Bosnia-Herzegovina civil war are being indoctrinated and trained in the Wahabbist ideology and in the tactics of terrorism and guerilla warfare. These trained personnel are sent through the "green transversal," a narco-trafficking safe-haven line, that runs from Bosnia, through Turkey and Georgia, to Chechnya, where they join the al-Qaida-supported Chechen Islamist terrorist operations.

The Iranian VEVAK [Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS)] have assisted in the training of the youth of Kvadrat, with the Saudi Government providing financial assistance. The Iranian government has denied publicly that it supports Chechen Islamist separatists, in order to protect the continuation of arms and technology trade with Russia.

Bosnian sources have told GIS "The young Kvadrat members have been brainwashed for a decade; since they were little children in most cases. They have been taught to believe that only their zealous approach to Islam is correct; they are fanatical."

Kvadrat operates in the triangle area between Zenica, Tuzla and Sarejavo in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The operational leader of the group is Pezo Adnan, though he "takes his orders" from a leader in Vienna, Austria. Adnan lives in Zenica, and has a known muhahedin, "Acit", as his bodyguard and driver. Acit came to Bosnia through Zagreb in 1993, and was a member of the el-Mujahid terrorist unit in Bosnia from October 20, 1993. El-Mujahid operated within the Bosnian Muslim Army in 1995, and participated in beheadings and mass murders of prisoners in Ozren and Vozuca.

The national origin of Acit is not known at this time. He is known, from surveillance, to be in contact with Abu el-Mali, an "emir" (leader" of the el-Mujahid.

Training of the orphan boys has occurred since 2001 on Jablanickom Lake in Podi, Bosnia. A main trainer for indoctrination is Cengic Faruku from Sarajejo, though VEVAK officers are in charge of training in terrorism and guerilla warfare. Known members of Kvadrat include Zulum Almir, killed in Chechnya, and Bijedic Kenan, arrested in Turkey in 2001.

The Saudi funding of Kvadrat is funneled through the High Saudi Committee for Children Without Parental Care (VSK), based in King Fahd Cultural Center, in Sarajevo Bosnia. This organization is led by Sheikh Nasser al-Saeed, and its deputy is Abdul-Rahman al-Rashed. Another individual linked to the organization as a supporter is Khalid al-Aqueli, said to have a Bosnian passport. The VSK's office have been raided by NATO Stabilization Force (SFOR) because of suspected links to terrorists.

Kvadrat has been supported by Al-Haramain charity (AHF) -- the Al-Haramain and Al-Masjed Al-Aqsa Charity Foundation -- based in Riyadh. (Note: days after the publication of this report, Arabia announced the dissolution of Al-Haramain Foundation, according to an October 6 report of Al-Sharq al-Awsat, a London-based newspaper (BBC Monitoring International Reports, "Saudi Arabia Announces 'Dissolution' of Controversial Charity Foundation," October 6, 2004.) The United States has publicly linked Al-Haramain to support of terrorists in Chechnya, as well as to the al-Qaida bombings of two U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar e-Salaam in 1998.

The U.S. branch of AHF is headquartered in Oregon and was established in 1997. A federal search warrant was executed on February 18, 2004, against all property owned by the AHF in the United States. The investigation included agents from the Internal Revenue Service-Criminal Investigations, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement. A statement was issued by the U.S. Treasury department on September 9, 2004, designating the AHF a terrorist-linked organization.

The U.S. investigation of AHF revealed criminal violations of tax laws and money laundering. Individuals associated with the U.S. branch concealed the movement of funds to Chechnya by omitting them from tax returns or mischaracterizing their use as being intended for a prayer house in Springfield, Missouri. Funds identified as supporting Chechen refugees were diverted to support the al-Qaida network of Chechen leaders and mujahedin.

AHF has operations through the Union of the Comors, which was identified as a staging area and exfiltration route for the perpetrators of the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

TO BE CONTINUED.

Posted by: headland || 10/09/2004 12:39:29 PM || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Janissaries in the Balkans again.
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#2  A secret Wahabbi terrorist organization, Kvadrat

Anyone know arabic? "Kvadrat" doesn't sound arabic to me-- that's the slavic root-word for square. Suggests that maybe the organizers are Bosnian muslims isntead of wahabbis from the Gulf.
Posted by: lex || 10/09/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#3  nice touch, that Saoooodi and Blackhat influence - leads to the deaths of others. Fuckin' cowards
Posted by: Frank G || 10/09/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Anyone know arabic? "Kvadrat" doesn't sound arabic to me-- that's the slavic root-word for square. Suggests that maybe the organizers are Bosnian muslims isntead of wahabbis from the Gulf.


Wasn't 'Bojinka' (as in "Project Bojinka") a Serbo-Croation term? (Wikipedia's article, however, claims it comes from an Arabic root.)

Posted by: headland || 10/09/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Russa helps Iran with its Nuclear Reactor.

Iran, in turn supports the Chechen Islamist terrorists who murdered and raped the children in that school.

Does anyone see the problem here?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/09/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Regarding Iran, here's a relevant passage from the Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily article:
Significantly, the Iranian Government has denied that it supports the Chechen
Islamist separatists, a public stance which has enabled Iran to trade with
Russia, and, particularly, to acquire Russian advanced military systems. Faced
with virtual isolation from sources of supply of main weapons systems -- it can
still obtain some missile and rocket systems from the People's Republic of China
(PRC) and North Korea (DPRK) -- and essential political isolation, the clerical
Iranian leadership publicly abandoned the Chechen cause, which they had ignited
following the end of the Cold War, and proclaimed support for the Russian
Government position on Chechnya.


In fact, support for the Chechen Islamists has continued to flow unabated
from Afghanistan, through Iran and (with bribery) Azerbaijan, into Chechnya.

Posted by: headland || 10/09/2004 23:54 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Interesting Tape from Iraq
From IraqtheModel:
An anonymous tape.
Last Monday, while I was in Basra watching TV in the afternoon, Al-Fayhaa channel broadcasted a film they said it was sent to the station via e-mail. I have to say that the credibility of the film is questionable but since I found that no one in the media, whether inside or outside Iraq commented on it, I decided to tell you about it and perhaps we could together find some answers.

The film was taped on July 11 this year as written on the screen and it showed six young men, all Iraqi as there looks and accent showed, and they were reading written confessions about attacks they launched against Iraqis and coalition troops.

All those six men (the youngest is 21 years old) mentioned that they were given orders from the "Association of Muslim Scholars" to perform certain operations against "Iraqi collaborators", multinational troops and some moderate She'at clerics. One of the men said that he received (350 000 ID) from a member of the association to assassinate a She'at cleric and when the first attempt failed, he was ordered to try again as he stated.

One of those men claimed that their operations were planned in coordination with other groups of militants, namely "Khalid's legion" and " Ansar Al-Sunna Army" and then he started to list the operations they were involved in and I could count about 15 or so different operations among which there was the murder of the American contractors and mutilating their bodies in Fallujah months ago.

Al-Fayhaa stressed that the film was sent anonymously, and there was no way to identify the authority that captured those men and made them read those confessions and there's also no explanation why this record was kept hidden for about 3 months before it reached the media.

It was obvious that the (frame) of the confessions was prepared by the capturing authority because the structure was the same in all six confessions which all ended with a plea for forgiveness from the law.

The whole story could be made up to provoke a sectarian conflict among Iraqis but there's a weak possibility for this tape to be faked because the six men started their confessions by telling their full names and full addresses (they were all from Baghdad and from the neighborhoods around Haifa street) so I think it would be easy to verify these information.

Could it be that those men were captured by the Iraqi security forces and someone somehow managed to steal a copy? But why don't we see anything done about it till now? Why the government kept it hidden all this time?
The most acceptable theory is that it was sent from a non-governmental authority, like one of the major parties for example, which have militias and are probably able to identify and capture gangs.

Anyway, such parties are part of the interim government and there should be some kind of coordination between the parties and the government's systems but till now, nothing indicates that the government is aware of this issue. Maybe the government is waiting for the right time to take action or trying to gather more evidence and verify the information in the tape.

Most Iraqis and I'm one of them do not need more evidence to believe that this organization is a part of the terror network in Iraq, as they have been very generous in providing us with one proof after the other of their willingness to destroy Iraq and their longing for Saddam's days and their rejection and fear from the ongoing democratic process in Iraq. However and even if the tape was a false one, I think it's past due for a serious and thorough investigation to be carried out.
Posted by: mercutio || 10/09/2004 3:02:04 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't really comment. Bathist's tape?

Found the following post on Iraqi War News site:

THE MESOPOTAMIAN

Hi Friends,
A new Iraqi Satellite T.V. station by the name AL FAYHAA " ???????" (which is one of the complimentary names of the city of Basra) has started experimental limited hours of transmission in Arabic (6 hours daily) from the United Arab Emirates. This station seems to be an answer to our prayers with a clear patriotic message, which can be understood by the simple people. This is the first attempt at talking plainly to the people with a direct anti terrorist message reassuring and encouraging the ordinary man and spreading the ideas of hope and democracy.
I call upon all our well-wishers in the West to support this new effort to counterbalance the poisonous propaganda beamed by certain other media.
The UAE telephone No. Of this new station is 00971 6001664; Fax: 00971 67467727. These numbers appear on their screen. I have no details yet of any related web site.
Salaam
Alaa
Posted by: John QC || 10/09/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Film sent via email??? Does this mean an MPEG or something attached to an email?
Posted by: John QC || 10/09/2004 21:55 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Report: Afghan Economy Is Rockin' and Rollin' at Fiver Percent Per Annum
Selectively edited for length -- severely.
More than 10 million Afghans have the opportunity to cast ballots for president today, in the first direct election for head of state in the nation's 5,000-year history. Three years ago, few predicted that Afghans could reach this historic milestone. Yet with the world's assistance, they have seized the moment and are now poised to take another major stride toward joining the ranks of the world's democratic nations. After the fall of the Taliban, Afghanistan faced enormous challenges: the lack of a legitimate political system, the existence of warlords with private militias, the absence of effective national institutions--and desperate poverty. Though none of these problems have been fully overcome, significant progress is now being made against all.

At the same time, Afghanistan's national institutions are taking shape. The Afghan National Army now numbers more than 15,000 troops, with deployments underway and regional commands being established in every region. Progress is accelerating toward the goal of a 70,000-troop force. Average Afghans often say, "Where the ANA goes, stability follows." More than 28,000 members of the national police have undergone initial training and equipping. The Afghan government has launched a program to rebuild its administrative capacity in the more than 350 district centers. Year-on-year progress in state building has been significant. Though much remains to be done, momentum is clearly gathering. Economically, Afghanistan has experienced a peace dividend of growth rates in the legal economy exceeding 15% for three years. Inflation is low, and the new currency is maintaining a stable exchange rate. Several banks have started doing business in Kabul and other cities. Agricultural production is increasing steadily. Thousands of new small businesses have opened.

The rebuilding of the country's primary roads--led by the U.S.-Japanese-Saudi work on the Kabul-Kandahar-Herat highway--is well under way. The ring road and the links to regional networks, all of which are scheduled for completion in the next three years, will recreate the Afghan land bridge between Central Asia, South Asia and Southwest Asia, and re-establish a historic market that now accounts for more than $4 trillion. The best market test to understand how Afghans view the future is the fact that 3.3 million refugees have returned from Pakistan and Iran since 2002--the largest voluntary repatriation in history. These refugees would not return unless they believed the quality of life for their families is better in Afghanistan.
It's like Dubya sez. Ain't nothing defeats terrorist assholes like freedom. And that GDP growth rate is just stunning
Posted by: badanov || 10/09/2004 10:14:55 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bad I think they it's 15 percent a year. 5 percent a year from the stone age would be pretty poor.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 11:33 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a lot higher than that. According to the CIA World Factbook:
GDP - real growth rate: 29% (2003 est.)
: note: this high growth rate reflects the extremely low levels of activity between 1999 and 2002, as well as the end of a four-year drought and the impact of donor assistance
GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $700 (2003 est.)
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Pent up demand for freedom.
Posted by: John (Q. Citizen) || 10/09/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!
Posted by: Aretha || 10/09/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#5  One of the problems in Afganistan is the high economic bleding due to the damned pilgrimage. On the year after the fall of the Taliban it spent a sum equivalent to 10% of the Foreign Aid it received for lining thieving Saudi pockets. I have read the Kuran and I failed to notice any place where it tells Arabians should keep the pilgrimage's money.
Posted by: JFM || 10/09/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
World leaders condemn Sinai attacks
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 12:54:32 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How very noble of them. Now if only they would do the same when only Jews are involved.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/09/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi Tribal Leaders Warn Armed Groups in Fallujah
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
Leaders from four prominent Iraqi tribes met at an undisclosed location and vowed to help put a stop to terrorism in Iraq, Baghdad's Al-Da'wah reported on 7 October. The leaders said that they would issue a warning to armed groups operating in and around Al-Fallujah to surrender voluntarily or face death. Their decision reportedly came after it became clear that multinational forces were prepared to launch a major incursion into the restive city in the coming days, the daily reported. The tribes are: the Al-Hamamidah tribe from Al-Ramadi; the Al-Jubur tribe from Tikrit; the Al-Gharir tribe from Al-Yusufiyah; and a clan of the Al-Janabat tribe from Al-Latifiyah.

The daily reported that the tribal leaders will remind Iraqi militants that they will be eligible for a general pardon if they surrender voluntarily; it is unclear whether foreign militants would be eligible for a pardon, but they will be encouraged to surrender nonetheless. The tribal leaders voiced their support for the Iraqi police and National Guard in their efforts to establish security in Al-Fallujah, the newspaper reported.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/09/2004 12:48:53 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's good to see common sense rearing its head. The foreign fighters could give a rip about what is left of Fallujah, but the locals are beginning to realize they may end up with a rather pinkish/red parking lot if they don't do something.
Posted by: Beau || 10/09/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Remember, Allawi is a Sunni from the northwest part of the country. Those who dismiss him as a sock puppet are out to lunch -- besides the fact that this guy was in Saddam's prisons and faces assasination by the insurgents, he was the right guy for the job of interim leader because of his credibility with many of the tribes in the area.

His strategy has been to keep trying to peel off local leaders like these tribal chiefs, one by one. Zarqawi's going to have less and less cover ....
Posted by: rkb || 10/09/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Zarqawi could give a rat's a** about politics, his demeaner is more directly compared to Adolf Hitler & Jack The Ripper! When caught, kill him; if found dead, kill him again!! Torture him by putting both eys out, cutting his tongue off, and removing his testicles. Place his body in the center of Fallujah dropped from a Cobra at 500 feet!
Posted by: smn || 10/09/2004 18:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Given the lack of applicable local military force (i.e. there still are not enough properly trained and equipped Iraqis), the SHieks are the way to go - they still have immense "pull" in their areas.

A primary instance of this was An Najaf. You do notice that ther have been essentially *NO* incidnets there since the US went in and cleaned out the place - and got the local sheiks to go to Iraqi Police for security, and got a TON of funding locally for reconstruction that was put into action (by way of the Sheiks and and hiring locals) nearly immediately by the national government.


If they can replicate that in Samarra, and in the region areound Hilla: smash the bad guys, put IP into place backed up with ING units, and start pouring money and jobs into the area using local shieks and mayors; then Fallujah and Sadr City will see an learn, and it will weaken the support for fighters by locals.

Basically, it shows them the fastest way to get rid of American troops and get money coming to them from the US and central government, is to get let those troops rid of resistance and foreign fighters and then the locals keep them out, which will bring in Iraqi troops and police, and with them, money & jobs & civic improvements (water treatment, sewers, power, schools, etc).
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/09/2004 18:20 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Truck Fire Causes Confusion in Afghanistan
A truck caught fire near a northern polling station, causing no casualties but some confusion in a nation on edge as it holds its first-ever presidential election amid a threat of Taliban violence. A Western official said on condition of anonymity that a bomb had gone off at a polling station in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif, but peacekeeping officials and the governor in control of the town said no such bombing had occurred. Lt. Cmdr. Ken Mackillop, a spokesman for the peacekeepers, said there had been a truck fire at a polling station in the northern city of Maimana, but that it did not cause any casualties. A spokesman for Balkh Gov. Atta Mohammed, Ahraf Nadeem, also said there had been no significant violence in the northern areas.
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 12:41:59 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hehe whole afghanistan?! because of a truck?
Posted by: Anonymous6361 || 10/09/2004 12:23 Comments || Top||


Soldiers of new Afghan army charismatic, tough
By PETER WORTHINGTON -- For the Toronto Sun
The not-so-secret weapon in the first "democratic" elections in Afghanistan on Saturday may well be the Afghanistan National Army (ANA). While some may be tempted to view it as a hastily put together force mindful of what the Americans are trying to do in Iraq, there really is no comparison. I spent yesterday with the Kabul brigade, visiting observation posts outside Kabul, where a couple of Canadian soldiers were attached to the ANA soldiers, providing a communication link with Camp Julien and the international force's headquarters. First came a briefing from the ANA commander, known only as Gen. Akhter -- a handsome, charismatic guy who usually needs a shave. He fought the Russians when they were here. How has he found the training provided by Canadians, Americans, Hungarians, Germans and others, in the program called ETT (Embedded Training Team), otherwise known as Operation Phoenix? "I've had more experience at fighting than Canadians but I've also learned from them."

In fact, all these Afghans are pretty adept at killing. What they lack is discipline when fighting. Maj. Brian Hynes of Comox, B.C., is the Canadian contingent commander with the ANA, and Maj. Jean-Marc Doucette, an Acadian from Nova Scotia, is the hands-on operational link with the ANA. Over the years I've encountered a lot of soldiers from poor countries that depend on the U.S. and west for military support. I can't recall any soldiers as physically and psychologically impressive as these Afghans in their leopard-camouflage uniforms, cocky green berets, and new Hungarian assault rifles modelled on the Russian AK-47. These guys are all volunteers, every one ruggedly handsome, and are paid up to $300 a month. It's speculated most of them have killed people in the past -- an observation Hynes doesn't dispute. As a group they exude pride, curiosity and testosterone.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 11:48:16 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I can't recall any soldiers as physically and psychologically impressive as these Afghans"
...
"volunteers, every one ruggedly handsome"
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"they exude pride, curiosity and testosterone"


Interesting article, but the correspondent's hard-on keeps getting in the way...
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 10/09/2004 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I was wondering if he was reporting objectively or looking for a date...
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  when gen. akhter tells you he likes your eyes--well then--ghannis like like the pashtun poontang--which usually comes with a scrotum attached
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/09/2004 1:38 Comments || Top||

#4  paid up to $300 a month
That'll get you the best and brightest from a 2000 mile radius.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 7:54 Comments || Top||

#5  I've read descriptions of Afghanis (Brit. Empire period fact and fiction), and for some reason the authors all praise the physical beauty -- and fierceness -- of their subjects. It could be this journalist is merely following in that tradition. Contrariwise, it could be that being at physical risk at the hands of these [perceived to be] barbaric tribal types alters perceptions seen through a fight-or-flight adrenalin haze. Or, the journalist may indeed have unacknowledged tendencies. Certainly photos I've seen of young Afghanis show them to be quite handsome, but they appear to age quickly in that difficult environment, and not at all well.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/09/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Whoa. This is way too Lawrence of Arabia.
Posted by: ed || 10/09/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Didn't Lawrence of Arabia have tendencies, too?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/09/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#8  Does a bear tend to the woods?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/09/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Posted by: Steve || 10/09/2004 11:42 Comments || Top||

#10  hey--alexander the great conquered the world--and gave dome too
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/09/2004 16:51 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Sinai blasts 'mega-terrorism'
Israel's defence minister Shaul Mofaz said on Friday the Sinai peninsula bombings that killed at least 30 people, among them 23 Israelis, were "mega terrorism," local media reported. "We're dealing with mega-terrorism and an attempt to perpetrate a mega-attack. The authors' identity is not known, but it is crystal clear they tried to hit as many Israelis as possible," Mofaz was quoted as saying during an emergency cabinet meeting in Tel Aviv.
What about the guys the Egyptians arrested? Any word on them?
Come now, they were just the usual suspects.
"The main objective now is to save lives. We are focused on evacuating the wounded and rescuing those trapped under the rubble," he said. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon presided over the meeting, which was also attended by foreign minister Silvan Shalom, health minister Danny Naveh and other senior security officials. "Terrorism doesn't distinguish between countries or peoples. Terrorism is global and its goal is to attack the free world," Sharon was quoted as saying by his office. "There can be no compromise with terrorism. It must be fought relentlessly, in every way possible," he added. Sharon vowed earlier on Friday to step up anti-terror co-operation with Egypt. "Prime Minister Sharon and Egyptian President (Hosni) Mubarak agreed to concentrate efforts and forces in the war on terrorism, and noted that there is no difference between terrorism and terrorism," a statement released by office said. Mofaz also spoke with his Egyptian counterpart, Mohammed Tantawi, in order to allow Israeli army rescue teams into Egypt, the media said. General Yair Naveh has been put in charge of co-ordinating rescue efforts. Naveh told a press conference that 28 bodies had been retrieved so far, including those of 23 Israelis and five Egyptians. Egyptian police said seven victims were Egyptian nationals, lifting the overall death toll to 30. Thirty people were missing, Naveh said, adding that more than 120 people had been wounded.
Posted by: Fred || 10/09/2004 11:43:05 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If it does turn out that Iran's 'signature' is on the precursor agents used in the car bombs, it demands the prompt neutralization of their pending WMD threshold! I sincerely hope this is addressed before the 'Iranian Trinity' test destines history!
Posted by: smn || 10/09/2004 1:20 Comments || Top||



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