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Two Israelis killed as terrorists infiltrate Nahal Oz
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Africa North
Vienna denies allocating half ransom to Al-Qaeda
The Austrian Government has denied yesterday information being reported by local and international media saying the abductors have not killed the two Austrian nationals being detained by Al-Qaeda wing in the Sahara because they have been delivered the half of the 5m euros ransom.

A spokesman for the Austrian Foreign Affairs Ministry told AFP that Vienna “has enough time to negotiate the release of its two nationals being detained by Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.” He further added that “the negotiators haven’t agreed yet with abductors on how the ransom shall be paid as to extend the deadline of negotiations.” Furthermore, the leader of abductors group Abu Zaid has avoided killing the two Austrian hostages as the faltering of negotiations is beyond the scope of the Austrian party.

However, the Austrian Foreign Affairs Ministry spokesman has owed the negotiations faltering to the recurrent interruptions in communications set with the kidnappers moving in the wide Sahara between northern Mali and Southern Algeria. Moreover, some Austrian newspapers have sowed panic among Austrians while saying Al-Qaeda terrorists are likely to kidnap other hostages to ease its financial crisis.

Meanwhile the Tunisian Tourism Minister has announced Monday that about 500 Austrian tourists are to visit Tunisia along this week.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in North Africa

#1  I fully expect them to pay the full ransom, they are after all Europeans and have no problems with that. They will insist they didn't of course.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 04/09/2008 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't have a problem with them paying a half ransom as long as they kill the abductors upon delivery of the second half.
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 6:55 Comments || Top||


Algeria: FBI experts trained 37 judges in terror and money laundering issues
37 judges benefited from special training, in Algeria and abroad, monitored by foreign experts from France, Spain, Sweden and the US, Justice Ministry disclosed yesterday, pointing out that they are to be distributed on 4 judicial poles in charge of dealing with crime cases like terrorism and money laundering.

The director of Training for Justice Ministry, Si El Hadj M’hand told a press conference yesterday that the abovementioned judges have taken special training on money laundering crimes in Algeria last September given by experts for the US Federal Bureau of Investigations, FBI. He further said: “there would be other training sessions in the future targeting making judges updated with the merging cybercrime issues, which authorities are paying big intention for its close link with the worldwide network, internet.

On another side, 118 lawyers have requested to be promoted as judges, sources within Justice Ministry told El Khabar, adding that 20 judges requested being quitted from their positions, since 2003, “for administrative or personal reasons.” In this context, it is worth mentioning that senior lawyers in Algiers, Mr. Abdelmadjid Sellini said 51 judges have recently submitted their resignations.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in North Africa

#1  So they should be very good at terrorizing and money laundering by now.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/09/2008 18:21 Comments || Top||


Britain
Britain: Deportation ruling blow to terror strategy
Plans to deport terror suspects have been dealt a devastating blow after judges ruled that it was wrong to return suspects even if a memorandum of understanding existed between Britain and another country.

The Home Office was forced to abandon plans to deport 12 other suspects being held in Britain as a result.

It came as in a separate ruling, Abu Qatada, the firebrand preacher once described as "Osama bin Laden's right-hand man in Europe", won his fight against deportation from Britain that could lead to him being released from prison.
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Posted by: mrp || 04/09/2008 10:39 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  so now they can only expect the dreaded soap slippage type of accident?????
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 04/09/2008 13:51 Comments || Top||

#2  He should be deported to the mid-Atlantic at 30k feet and never spoken of again.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/09/2008 14:26 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess they'll need a trade when they get out. So teach them inside. Chainsaw Juggler, Human Cannonball, Sword Swallower, Human Torch...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 14:35 Comments || Top||

#4  The Brits should seriously consider a Guantanimo type setup. Perhaps on St Helena, it worked once.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/09/2008 16:31 Comments || Top||

#5  The Brits have some property in the South Atlantic near the Antarctic Circle. Build a Guantanimo-type setup, with the same open barracks-type buildings. Anyone trying to escape will be allowed to go as far as they wish. Dead bodies will be shipped home with a couple of penguins for escort.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 21:21 Comments || Top||


UK bomb plot accused had flight timetables
One of eight British men accused of planning to bomb airliners had a notebook listing liquids and a computer memory stick with timetables for flights to the United States and Canada, the men's trial was told on Tuesday. Abdullah Ahmad Ali told police when arrested in Walthamstow, north London in August 2006 that diagrams found in his notebook were "just garbage" and he could not remember why it contained lists referring to batteries and Lucozade and orange drinks.

Patrick Holt, a Scotland Yard counter-terrorism officer who questioned him at the time, told the trial at Woolwich Crown Court he had found the notebook in Ali's jacket pocket and that it contained diagrams and "lists of items which I thought could be related to terrorist activity". He described Ali's demeanor as "very calm, very collected".

The prosecution's case is that the defendants planned to simultaneously blow up passenger aircraft in mid-air between London's Heathrow airport and the United States and Canada. It says they planned to bring down the planes by smuggling liquids, including hydrogen peroxide, on board in soft drink bottles and combining them into an explosive mixture.

The jury was shown entries in Ali's notebook referring to batteries, drink bottles, Lucozade energy drink, orange and red Oasis drink, and blue and red mouthwash. Instructions in the notebook included "calculate exact drops of Tang (a soft drink) and color" and "check time to fill each bottle" and "check time taken to dilute in HP" -- a possible reference to hydrogen peroxide.

This article starring:
ABDULLAH AHMED ALIal-Qaeda
Patrick Holt
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  I'm sending these mooks my bill for the lipgloss I had to surrender to French security at Charles De Gaulle in September '06.

BTW, I accurately predicted that the US flight restrictions on carrying liquids onto a plane would be relaxed in time for the press junkets surrounding the midterm 'lections in November '06.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2008 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  not to sound like i am supporting the bad guyz, but since when is possession of timetables illegal? next thing you know we will have to surredner our nipple rings in ord...
oh,you say that's already happened?
Never mind.
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 04/09/2008 13:54 Comments || Top||

#3  It's not that possession of a timetable is illegal, I'm sure, but that under the circumstances it is rather suggestive.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 17:12 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
S.Korea conservatives likely to win back assembly
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


NKor Premier: U.S. hostile policy makes Korean peninsula unstable
The premier of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), Kim Yong Il, said Tuesday that the situation on the Korean peninsula remained tense and unstable due to the U.S. hostile policy against the DPRK, the official news agency KCNA reported. Kim Yong Il gave a report on the conference held on Tuesday celebrating the 15th anniversary of top leader Kim Jong Il's election as chairman of the National Defense Commission (NDC) of the DPRK.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap,
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/09/2008 14:19 Comments || Top||


Europe
Children Told they are Dogs during Mosque Visit
THE HAGUE, 09/04/08 - A primary school in Amsterdam wished to provide its pupils with an understanding for other cultures. But during a visit to a mosque, the children were told they were dogs.

With a view to developing understanding and respect for other cultures among children, primary school De Horizon regularly organises outings to various religious organisations. The chairman of the El Mouchidine mosque told the children from group 7 (aged 10) and their chaperones however that non-Muslims are dogs.

"We are shocked that during the guided tour, the mosque's chairman told the children and chaperoning parents that non believers were dogs."
In a letter to the children's parents, the school expresses its regret at the incident: "We are shocked that during the guided tour, the mosque's chairman told the children and chaperoning parents that non believers were dogs. We consider this statement as unacceptable since we allow our children to partake in this project to develop respect for freedom of religious choice".

In the meantime, the school's management has addressed the mosque on the undesirable behaviour of the chairman. Both parties will say nothing further on the matter. "We will resolve the matter amongst ourselves and I have no inclination whatsoever to discuss the matter with the media", as newspaper De Telegraaf quoted the school's spokesperson Mariet ten Berge. "We have been to the mosque before and it always went well".

Angry parents had sent the letter on to De Telegraaf but were reportedly rapped on the knuckles by the school's management. "The school wishes to play this down. That is precisely the problem", as one mother commented.
Posted by: john frum || 04/09/2008 06:35 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We are shocked that during the guided tour, the mosque's chairman told the children and chaperoning parents that non believers were dogs.

apparently mommy and daddy didn't do their homework regarding Islamic beliefs concerning infidels.
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 6:48 Comments || Top||

#2  "We will resolve the matter amongst ourselves and I have no inclination whatsoever to discuss the matter with the media"

In other words, we are totally ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that Muslims really do consider infidels as dogs. I suppose the kids got a little more understanding of Islam than was intended by the multicultural educators.
Posted by: gromky || 04/09/2008 7:02 Comments || Top||

#3  A primary school in Amsterdam wished to provide its pupils with an understanding for other cultures.

Mission successful I would say. They now have a very good understanding of Islam and what it is really like when the veil and whitewashed MSM lies are stripped away.
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/09/2008 7:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Shades of the mythological Babelfish, which, by translating any language into any other language, caused the most vicious and destructive wars in the universe, because people, for the first time, really understood everything others said.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 04/09/2008 7:28 Comments || Top||

#5  And this is the stuff they're WILLING to share with outsiders. I cringe at the thought of all the hate and supremacy that must be a part of the ROP outside of earshot of kuffirs like me.

The real irony, no doubt, is they accuse Jews and Christians of doing what THEY do more than any other religion. In psychological terms, it's called "projection"
Posted by: PlanetDan || 04/09/2008 8:41 Comments || Top||

#6  This is the best thing that could happen to these kids. None of them will ever forget this. How do you really try to convince kids that there are madmen living amongst them and that they will do them harm ? This shitbag did these kids and their parents the best favor ever. The f**kwits running the school can try to schmooze all they want. This performance by the Muzz looney tune is already seared into permanent memory. I wonder if he was slobbering and spitting when he said it ?
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2700 || 04/09/2008 9:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Reminds me of a similar story, one family friend was a young north african wimman, quite westernized, and she worked in the social area kind of job; on one occasion, she and other social workers went on to have a group of young arab muslims (all born & raised in La Belle France, around 10-12 years old?, this happened in the 90's) visit a Cathedral. Reaction of the kids shocked her, even though she came from a muslim family & all, while inside the Cathedral, some were quasi-panicked and hid their face in their hands, and others kept spitting on the ground...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 04/09/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, since we're dogs, I guess you'll have no problem with me taking a nice big dump right here in the middle of your mosque?
Woof!
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 10:33 Comments || Top||

#9  #8 Well, since we're dogs, I guess you'll have no problem with me taking a nice big dump right here in the middle of your mosque?
Woof!


Dittos tu, count me in on that mission Please! Grrr >:)

It's all or nothing for us, The Wahhabis and Brotherhood are at WAR with Us to the Death!
Posted by: Red Dawg || 04/09/2008 11:19 Comments || Top||

#10  don't forget to pee on the carpets and chew up the 'homework'.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/09/2008 11:33 Comments || Top||

#11  With a view to developing understanding and respect for other cultures

Therein lies much of the problem; the unyielding assumption that understanding another culture is to develop respect for it. If you came to understand the practice of cannibalism or human sacrifice, you would perforce come to appreciate the cultures in which they are the norm. Thereafter you would be expected to tolerate such things everywhere.

I understand that Mohammed charged the Muslim community with the imperative to dominate the world, by force if necessary. I understand that Allah despises non-believers and wishes them dead or oppressed. I understand that women by their mere presence are an unholy influence. Somehow, though, the respect thing is lost on me. I know that Allah is thin skinned and can't take a joke about Himself, his followers or his "prophet". I know that Islam is insulted by accurate reporting of its own message and the actions of its followers in accordance with that message. I get it, yet somehow the respect thing is lost on me. Funny, that.
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 04/09/2008 12:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Baba, I think it won't get you in too much trouble to joke about Allah--he's not the important one. But don't dream about insulting Muhammad.
Posted by: James || 04/09/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

#13  I'd tell the imam upon hearing it that he's a dog meat.
Posted by: twobyfour || 04/09/2008 13:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Never too early to start a dhummi education.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/09/2008 14:03 Comments || Top||

#15  James, and that is the core of it. Allah = Mohammed by proxy. There are many instances in koran or hadiths where that is apparent. They were mutually interchangeable, when Mohammed was trying to justify any deed whatsoever. The real "deity" is Mohammed.
Posted by: twobyfour || 04/09/2008 14:03 Comments || Top||

#16  I think Islam, when the word finally gets out, is going to have a lot more Baruch Goldsteins in its future. The level of anti-Muzz anger is rising exponentially and the Muzz just don't think the dhimmis will resist so they keep on raising the pressure. When the situation finally blows up it's going to be very ugly.
Posted by: Pancho Elmeck8414 || 04/09/2008 18:37 Comments || Top||

#17  Well it looks like progress is being made. The infidels have moved up the evolutionary scale and are now dogs. Suppose it's better than being “worms, snakes, maggots"
Posted by: tipper || 04/09/2008 19:47 Comments || Top||

#18  Oh, I'm all for "respect for freedom of religious choice" too. It's the bloodthirsty death-cults I don't agree with.
Posted by: BA || 04/09/2008 22:10 Comments || Top||


Germany Feels Pressure to Aid More Christian Iraqis
Posted by: ryuge || 04/09/2008 06:04 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  if Germany doesn't want them, send them here. They make good neighbors.
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 6:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Clinton demands withdrawal from Iraq
"Me! Me! Don't forget me!"
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton Tuesday poured disdain on assurances by the top US general and diplomat in Iraq that US policy was working and demanded an orderly troop withdrawal.

"For the past five years, we have continually heard from the administration that things are getting better, that we are about to turn the corner," the New York senator told General David Petraeus and US ambassador to Baghdad Ryan Crocker. "Each time, Iraqi leaders fail to deliver," she said, saying it was time to start an "orderly" US withdrawal from Iraq.
Each time the Dhimmicrats fail to deliver, and yet they're still there. al-Maliki has shown more courage in the past month than Clinton and Obama have shown in years.
"It might well be irresponsible to continue the policy that has not produced the results that have been promised time and time again."
Like your campaign, for instance. How many primaries have you lost? Ever think of quitting?
Clinton, who appeared more disdainful, yet less confrontational than she had been in a previous hearing involving Petraeus in September, instead dwelt on the huge costs to US troops and their family of staying in Iraq.
Moving the goalposts 'cause she can't do anything else and stay in her own campaign.
She said the situation in Iraq was "tenuous" and did not merit the upbeat descriptions of the US administration. "What conditions would have to exist for you to recommend to the President that the current strategy is not working?" she asked. "How are we to judge General Petraeus what the conditions are, or should be and the actions that you and the administration would recommend pursing, based on them?"
Petraeus didn't answer that question, and good for him.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How irritating must it be to the state sponsors of terror, the moneymen behind them, and the cabal invested in the failure of America that no matter how much money and effort they pour into the pressure groups, universities, and certain of the more corrupt impressionable lawmakers, Iraq is still bristling with the well-sharpened pointy ends of Yank spears?
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2008 0:32 Comments || Top||

#2  "What conditions would have to exist for you to recommend to the President that the current strategy is not working?"

What can you tell the enemy that may provide them victory?
Posted by: Crolusing tse Tung2745 || 04/09/2008 1:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Hillary and her ilk remind me of a bunch of pontificating school board members that don't know sh*t about nothin'. As a facility director for a school district, I dealt with a lot of those types. They have nothing positive to say. They bring no solutions to the table. And they show how shallow, agenda-driven, dishonest, and stupid they are every time they open their pie-holes.

My hat goes off to General Petraeus for the professionalism of his presentation and demeanor when dealing with alpha-hotels like Clinton and Levin.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/09/2008 2:01 Comments || Top||

#4  "Me! Me! Don't forget me!"

coffee alert!
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 6:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Clinton proves she will do anything, say anything and be anything to get elected.

We are winning, democracy is coming, riots in Egypt against a corrupt dictator, freedom is being openly discussed all over the Arab world and yet this bitch and her ilk talks about failure. Absolutely disgusting.
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/09/2008 7:21 Comments || Top||

#6  As a Brit , I find her more nauseating than listening to George Galloway or Ken Livingstone . And thats saying something !

Posted by: Spash Lumumba2608 || 04/09/2008 8:37 Comments || Top||

#7  And in other news, Obama demands Clinton withdrawl from the election..... (^8
Posted by: 3dc || 04/09/2008 10:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes there are riots in Egypt, but they are not by citizens wanting to be free. The people rioting are the "brotherhoad" that wants to establish a theocracy.
Posted by: bman || 04/09/2008 10:54 Comments || Top||

#9  She said the situation in Iraq was "tenuous" and did not merit the upbeat descriptions of the US administration.

And she'll be heading over soon to verify. Just as soon as she gets over the PTSD from the sniper thing...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 10:57 Comments || Top||

#10  Senator, my response to that would be did you make this coffee, because it's fucking terrible.
Posted by: Petraeus || 04/09/2008 11:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Here's a suggestion: get elected. Then you can issue orders to your heart's content.
Posted by: Chief Running Gag || 04/09/2008 12:18 Comments || Top||


Obama calls for talks with Iran over Iraq
Gee Barack, what is there to talk about?
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Tuesday called for a "diplomatic surge" including talks with US foe Iran, to help stabilize the situation in Iraq.

The Illinois Senator battling Hillary Clinton for his party's nomination called for more pressure on the Iraqi government to embrace political reconciliation and a regional "diplomatic surge that includes Iran." "We should be talking to them as well," Obama told the top US General in Iraq David Petraeus and US ambassador to Baghdad Ryan Crocker.
What exactly do you talk about with a bunch of Mad Mullahs™ who are trying to wreck everything you're trying to do? What do you say -- 'pretty please'?
"I do not believe we are going to be able to stabilize the situation without that" said Obama, adding that a plan for US troop withdrawals was needed to force Iraqi factions to work together. "I think that increased pressure in a measured way, in my mind, and this is where we disagree, includes a timetable for withdrawal. Nobody is asking for a precipitous withdrawal."
Except TalkLeft, Daily Kos, ...
Obama has taken fire from his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican presumptive nominee John McCain for his offer to talk, if elected president, with the leaders of several US foes including Iran.

He used his question period during the crucial Senate hearing to restate his initial opposition to the war in Iraq, which Clinton voted to authorize.

"We all have the greatest interest in seeing a successful resolution to Iraq," Obama told Petraeus and Crocker.
Except that you define 'successful' differently than we do ...
"I continue to believe that the original decision to go into Iraq was a massive strategic blunder, that the two problems you pointed out, Al-Qaeda in Iraq and increased Iranian influence in the region are a direct result of that original decision.

"That's not a decision you gentlemen made. I will not lay it at your feet. You are cleaning up the mess afterwards."
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Obama is a mouthpiece for the Internationals attempt to get back the largess it lost when saddam fell. The left is so deep into the OIL for $ scenario, at every level. Peak oil is the extrapolated myth of soros chaos crowd. everything is woven together.
Posted by: Thraviper Panda2099 || 04/09/2008 9:02 Comments || Top||

#2  ever notice he drops double-digits in IQ when not reading from a teleprompter or standard stump speech?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2008 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  So, you want to go to a country in a proxy war with your country, with your tail between your legs, and beg the country to stop.

Gee, that sounds like a fucking winning formula right there! I mean, it worked soooo well for Chamberlin, didn't it? What a genius! It is so simple!

Can I have back the 30 seconds of my life that were wasted reading this please?
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/09/2008 9:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Hey Darth, take it easy there that's a totally unfair comparison. Obama is no Chamberlin.

Chamberlin at least had a rational argument that UK was unprepared for war.

Obama is a tranzi-socialist-fool and is not worthy to lick Neville's shoes.
Posted by: AlanC || 04/09/2008 10:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Ahmashamadingdong is playing Mayan Football and the o-hole thinks it is a game of footsie.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/09/2008 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  What exactly do you talk about with a bunch of Mad Mullahs™ who are trying to wreck everything you're trying to do? What do you say -- 'pretty please'?

How about "Die Now".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/09/2008 14:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Dumb rooster wants discussion with fox over henhouse.
Posted by: Sonny Elmeamp2499 || 04/09/2008 16:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Obama calls for talks with Iran over iraq = dangerous naivette.

Obama would have his testicles handed back to him if he had talks with Iran.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/09/2008 16:37 Comments || Top||

#9  You're making an unwarranted assumption there, JohnQC. Why on earth would they hand them back?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 17:20 Comments || Top||

#10  Ya gotta get them outta "Reverend" Wright's pocket first...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 17:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Obama calls for talks with Iran over Iraq.
McCain calls for talks with Iraq over Iran.

Who would you vote for!
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/09/2008 18:01 Comments || Top||

#12  Hitlery and Oblama - Dumb and Dumber. The Democratic Party should be so ashamed at allowing these two to run for ANY public office they should never wish to show their faces again. God help this nation if either of these two idiots gets elected, because they'd screw things up so badly only a revolution would be able to straighten it out.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:34 Comments || Top||

#13  I think Obama talking with Iran will accomplish just as much as 'W' has by ignoring them them.

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/09/2008 19:34 Comments || Top||

#14  Are you quite certain the current president is ignoring Iran, Yosemite Sam? I'm not really qualified to have an opinion on the matter, but I've a strong impression all sorts of interesting things are quietly happening beyond the reach of open sources.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 20:02 Comments || Top||

#15  A vote for Obama in 2008 will be very much the same as a vote for Carter was. Hopefully it will be the 1980 election version, not the 1976 version.
Posted by: Darrell || 04/09/2008 20:22 Comments || Top||

#16  IOn RIAN > WHY DOES IRAN NEED THERMONUCLEAR BUBBLES. Are Mullahs, Ayatollahs, and other 1979/Shah-era = Iran-Iraq War "Old Guard" SLOWLY ON THEIR WAY OUT IN FAVOR OF DEDICATED ANTI-US SECULAR ANDOR "MODERATE", PRO-ECON REFORM POLITICIANS - IS IRAN USING THE NUCLEAR ISSUE AS BLUFF + DENIABLE COVER TO HIDE SERIOUS ECON PROBS = NEED FOR REFORMS??? Article indics that Tehran is offering every econ-suffering family US$50.00 NOT to complain or protest in the streets???

ALso from RIAN > RUSS MP: RUSSIA MAY CLAIM THE CRIMEA IFF UKRAINE JOINS NATO. Crimea = home of the BLACK SEA FLEET. You just knew Russ would try to claim Sevastopol = whole of Crimea? from Ukraine sooner or later.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 21:54 Comments || Top||

#17  As argued or inferred times before, a serious danger in this kind of "great game" competition-rivalry between the US + Russia-China, etc. is THAT BOTH CAMPS OR ALL WILL END UP HELPING IRAN + RADICLA ISLAMISM BECOME DE FACTO NUCLEAR POWERS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT, AND HENCE A POTENT NUCLEAR THREAT TO BOTH OR ALL CAMPS - The USA, etc, ends up empowering its OWN DESTROYER!

IRAN + OBL-Radical Islam are now going hell-bent for across-the-board, indigenous, INTENSIFIED ESCALATORY NUCPOWERDEV AND NUCWEAPSDEV, etc. ASAP AMAP BEFORE 2010 or 2012, IMO to include geographic expansion vv RUSS + CENTRAL ASIA etc.
"CALLS FOR TALKS" > the issue is the magnitude of any potential future ISLAMIST NUCLEAR THREAT BY THE END OF A POST-DUBYA POTUS FIRST TERM, AS BOTH IRAN + ISLAMIST TERROR WILL LIKELY HAVE POTENT NUKE-WMD ARSENALS BY 2012, SEPARATE OR JOINT, AND HENCE WILL BE THAT MUCH STRONGER THAN NOW.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 22:17 Comments || Top||


Obama calls for withdrawal timetable in Iraq
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Obama Questions Petraeus at Senate Hearing
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Nobody's asking for a precipitous withdrawal

Except Obama's own platform.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/09/2008 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Are we still in Germany, Japan, South Korea? Then any earlier withdraw from Iraq is precipitous.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/09/2008 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  I really don't give a rat's ass about what you saying general; my mind is made up. I'm just trying to get some face time so I can look "commander in chiefish" for the voters.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/09/2008 16:43 Comments || Top||

#4  FOX NEWS AM + O'REILLY SHOW + REALCLEARPOLITICS/
HOTAIR > DICK MORRIS - OBAMA'S WEAKNESS IS WEAKNESS. MORRIS [paraph > told O'REILLY THAT HUGE ISSUES-PROBS ARE COMING UP IN IRAQ FOR OBAMA + OTHER POTUS CANDIDATES. IIRC, in Morris' opinion Obama has a potentially harmful/serious campaign + leadership prob in that HE OBAMA HAS NO SPECIFICS = CLEAR PLAN ON DEFEATING ISLAMIST TERROR OTHER THAN GETTING-PULLING US TROOPS OUT OF EVERY TROUBLE SPOT(S), + THAT OBAMA HAS NO ANSWERS TO VARIOUS "WHAT IF" SCENARIOS BE IT GOOD, BAD, OR OTHER FOR USA + WOT.

* PENNSYLVANIA {PRIMARY > PA IS A MEDIA-SENSITIVE STATE for the Candidates = DUBIOUS area for Obama despite Obama being up 3:1 agz HILLARY on national polls. MORRIS - AT LEAST DEM HILLARY HAS SOME KIND OF PLAN OR ANSWER TO ABOVESAME VARIOUS SCENARIOS, whilst MCCAIN has already made it clear he WANTS THE USA TO STAY AND FIGHT/SLUG IT OUT IN IRAQ-AFGHANISTAN.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 21:11 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Petraeus: Stop withdrawal of troops
The U.S. general commanding the Iraq war called Tuesday for an open-ended suspension of U.S. troop withdrawals this summer, reflecting concern about a recent flare-up in violence and leaving open the possibility that few, if any, additional troops will be brought home before President Bush leaves office in January.

Gen. David Petraeus told a Senate hearing that he recommends a 45-day "period of consolidation and evaluation" once the extra combat forces that Bush ordered to Iraq last year have completed their pullout in July. He did not commit to a timetable for resuming troop reductions after the 45-day pause. "At the end of that period, we will commence a process of assessment to examine the conditions on the ground and, over time, determine when we can make recommendations for further reductions," Petraeus said.

He did not commit to any additional troop withdrawals beyond July. "This process will be continuous, with recommendations for further reductions made as conditions permit," he added. "This approach does not allow establishment of a set withdrawal timetable. However, it does provide the flexibility those of us on the ground need to preserve the still fragile security gains our troopers have fought so hard and sacrificed so much to achieve."

The plan gives Petraeus maximum flexibility at a time of rising violence in Baghdad and some other parts of the country. It runs counter to Democrats' push for a more rapid reduction in the U.S. military commitment and a faster transfer of responsibility to the Iraqi government.

Petraeus said his approach takes account of the fact that security gains achieved over the past year are fragile and reversible, and he said it is intended to "form a foundation for the gradual establishment of sustainable security in Iraq." But he did not say when he thought that goal would be reached. "Withdrawing too many forces too quickly could jeopardize the progress of the past year," Petraeus said.

Bush has said he intended to accept Petraeus' recommendation. On Thursday, the president will make a speech about the war, now in its sixth year, and his decision about troop levels.

Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Nuke the centers of opposition to success in Iraq: Damascus, Tehran, Riyadh... Washington...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:35 Comments || Top||

#2  BLOOMBERG > PETRAEUS PLAN WOULD LEAVE 140,000 US TROOPS IN IRAQ ON ELECTION DAY.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 18:39 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Musharraf to discuss defense ties with Chinese leaders
President Pervez Musharraf will leave on a six-day state visit to China starting from Thursday to discuss bilateral relations, regional and international issues besides talks to further strengthen defence cooperation.

The visit, from April 10 to 15, at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao has been termed as part of regular high-level interaction between the two countries; reflective of close bilateral ties, by the Foreign Office. “The President’s visit will reinforce the all-weather, time-tested friendship between the two countries and further enhance and deepen our strategic cooperative partnership,” Foreign Office spokesman Mohammad Sadiq.

President Pervez Musharraf during the visit, will hold talks with President Hu Jintao in Sanya, and separate meetings in Beijing with Premier Wen Jiabao and other Chinese state leaders. The President and the Chinese leadership will review the entire gamut of Pak-China bilateral relations besides discussing regional issues and international developments.

The President will also be the keynote speaker at BOAO Forum for Asia. The theme for this year is “GREEN ASIA: Moving Towards Win-Win Through Changes”. The President will meet other world leaders attending the BOAO Forum.

President will visit Urumqi, the capital of the Muslim majority Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China and meet with Xinjiang leadership at the last leg of his visit.The President will be accompanied by Minister for Foreign Affairs Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Minister for Defence Ch. Ahmed Mukhtar.

On Monday, a Shanghai shipyard launched the first of four F-22P frigates to be delivered to Pakistan. The fourth and last vessel will be completed at a Karachi shipyard in 2013. The Pakistan Air Force has inducted into its fleet a fighter aircraft, called JF-17 Thunder, that is co-produced with China.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/09/2008 06:06 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  President Pervez Musharraf will leave on a six-day state visit to China starting from Thursday to discuss bilateral relations, regional and international issues besides talks to further strengthen defence cooperation anything they can do to put the squeeze on India.

There. Fixed it.

Just be careful, Perv. Some of that commie crap might rub off on you. Mr. Hu might also wanna listen to what Perv says in Xinjiang. What a cynical pair of bastards. Other than their designs on Indian territory they have absolutely nothing in common.

Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/09/2008 12:55 Comments || Top||

#2  He may leave, but will he be able to come back?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:36 Comments || Top||


TNSM delegation meets DIG Malakand
Members of the Tehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM), a banned religious outfit, met the deputy inspector general (DIG) of police for the Malakand Division on Tuesday, and asked for the withdrawal of cases against them. DIG Akhtar Ali Shah told the delegation that officials would review the cases against TNSM members and leaders, sources said. The meeting is the first of its kind since the ban on the Sufi Muhammad-led TNSM, who is now in jail. The TNSM delegation included Safiullah, Khalid Khan, Bacha Sardar, Bakhtawar Khan and others, sources told Daily Times.
This article starring:
Akhtar Ali Shah
BACHA SARDARTehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi
BAKHTAWAR KHANTehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi
KHALID KHANTehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi
SAFIULLAHTehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi
SUFI MUHAMADTehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: TNSM


Plan for AQ Khan's release sent to PM
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Time to grab him.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/09/2008 1:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Or a mysterious aircraft accident....
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 04/09/2008 14:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe he can hit his head on the sunroof lever of his limo...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 16:12 Comments || Top||


Fazl flays Sher Afghan Niazi incident
Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman also condemned the incident of manhandling of former federal minister Dr Sher Afgan Khan Niazi. He said that no one could expect such a shameful act from lawyers. He said, “Everyone has his own point of view. While we can differ from one another's views, we cannot act violently.”
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Banned Jihadi outfits to move Pak supremes
All the religious outfits which were banned by retired General Pervez Musharraf during his military rule would approach the Supreme Court of Pakistan and seek restoration, former head of a banned organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba said on Monday. "The ban was a step that the retired General took only to please America and now it is abundantly clear that people have rejected his policies," Hafiz Saeed who was chief of the Lashkar and who now heads Jamatud Dawa Islami told The News.

He criticised President Musharraf's Kashmir policy and alleged that the 'U-turn' taken by the Musharraf government on Kashmir had badly damaged the cause of the Kashmiris' freedom struggle.

The Jihadi leader said Pakistan's detained nuclear scientist, Dr AQ Khan was a victim who has already suffered a great deal and should immediately be released and his honour restored. Saeed demanded that Dr Khan be made the next president of the country, a position he deserved.

Answering a question he said he would urge President Pervez Musharraf to step down because the mandate given by the masses in the general elections is against him and America and he should accept the verdict given by the masses.

The Kashmiri leadership and the Kashmiri people are disappointed because of the previous government's Kashmir policy and they have lost their trust and support, he said. All the options that General Musharraf had been offering on the Kashmir issue have not been responded to by India, he said. "It is necessary now that the newly-elected Prime Minister, Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, should review the country's Kashmir policy, immediately change the stance and talk openly to resolve this issue," Saeed said.

When asked whether he was still in contact with the Pakistan Army, as in the past, he said he had no contact with Army at any level now. "In the past we were in touch with the (Pakistan) Army but now we have no contact. However, we have our own viewpoint on all the important national and regional issues and we want to cooperate with them," he added. About the law and order situation in the country and the suicide bombings and attacks on the security forces the Jihadi leader said it was the result of bad policies followed by the previous government which were aimed at pleasing the US.

"The new government needs to change all those wrong policies of the Musharraf government, and these suicide bombings and attacks would stop. We have to understand that if we are interested in bringing about peace and stability in Pakistan, something which is linked to the situation in Afghanistan, we must contact Mullah Umar and the Taliban leadership and enter into a dialogue with them," Saeed said.

"The new government should revert to the Afghan policy of 2001, approach the Taliban, hold talks with them. It would lead to stability, not only in Pakistan but in Afghanistan as well. If (Afghan President) Hamid Karzai can offer amnesty to the Taliban in Afghanistan why the Pakistan government cannot do that," he asked.
This article starring:
AQ Khan
HAFIZ SAIDLashkar-e-Taiba
Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Go right ahead. It's actually VERY easy to pick nuke aiming points, and the missiles are easily programmed, using the proper technique. Set 'em off at 5000 feet AGL. Watch for activity, and hit those spots again. An air burst like that will result in most of the residual radiation dissipating in five-ten years. Seeing that part of the world under Indian occupation won't be difficult for us at all.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:47 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Draft law to curb American role in Iraq
An Iraqi military document has revealed important details of a security draft representing current talks between the government of Iraq and the US concerning an agreement between the two states, senior military officials said.

The suggested draft agreement will substitute the international resolution, which puts Iraq under the American tutelage according to chapter seven of the UN convention.

The document, which was prepared by the head of the military and security studies centre at the Iraqi Defence Ministry, Colonel Najm Al Deen Al Nakshabandi weeks before his retirement, says there is an Iraqi-American understanding to retain 100,000 American soldiers in Iraq until 2010.

Armed militias

It is stated that Iraq needs this number of forces to confront Al Qaida's activities and Shiite armed militias inside Iraq and also to secure its borders on the regional level.

The document adds, "The Iraqi - American treaty which must be completed at the end of July, will be a comprehensive economic, financial, commercial, cultural, political and military treaty." Al Nakshabandi's document suggests that the Iraqi-American military agreement will be similar to the joint defence treaty signed between the US and Kuwait and the number of American forces will decrease to less than fifty thousand American soldiers after 2010.

The document argues that regional dangers on Iraq particularly by Iran and Syria would have a decisive role in determining the important details and approaches of any Iraqi- American military agreement.

The document also revealed that Americans offered to establish three temporal military bases two years from now; one in the south specifically in Basra after the British military withdrawal, the second in Taji or Balad and the third one will be in the northern Iraq province of Mosul.

Obligations

Besides the signing of an Iraqi-American legal military agreement, a military cooperation agreement will also be signed. It is not immediately clear what the Iraqi reaction to the American offer will be.

The legal agreement will include determining the rights and obligations of American forces and this will focus on vital points like eliminating the impunity and privilege of American forces that will stay in Iraq next year.

The document states that the Iraqi government seeks a similar legal arrangement to the American-German agreement after the second world war.

For instance, they will not have the right to arrest an Iraqi citizen; wander within Iraqi cities or carry weapons without Iraqi authorisation. Iraq also wants American forces to pay fees and taxes on goods needed by Americans in Iraqi territories.

Meanwhile, the Iraqi government will have the right to detain any American involved in violating Iraqi laws and it can inspect American camps in the event that they threaten Iraqi national security.

Factfile: US military surge

General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, and Ambassador Ryan Crocker updated Congress on Tuesday on progress made during a "surge" of force in the war zone credited with helping to reduce violence. Here are facts about the surge strategy and its goals.

-Surge strategy: President George W. Bush ordered the US military to increase troop levels in Iraq in January 2007 under a strategy known commonly as the "surge" that included security, political, economic and regional components.
-Five brigade combat teams, including about 20,000 combat troops and another 10,000 support personnel, were sent to Iraq from February to mid-June.
-Iraq agreed to deliver additional Iraqi forces to Baghdad and to bar political officials from interfering with security operations.
-Goals for the government: Take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November 2007
-Give US and coalition forces authority to pursue all extremists
-Pass legislation to share oil revenues among all Iraqis
-Reform de-Baathification laws and hold provincial elections in 2007
-Progress towards goals: Attacks in Iraq declined 60 per cent during the surge, according to the US military. Deaths from sectarian violence dropped 90 per cent after the last additional US combat brigade arrived in Iraq in June 2007. But violence has climbed in 2008 due to Al Qaida activity in the north and intra-Shi'ite violence in the south.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 04/09/2008 17:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Bilal Hussein to be unjugged
BAGHDAD (AP) - An Iraqi judicial committee has dismissed terrorism-related allegations against Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein and ordered him freed after nearly two years in U.S. military custody.

The decision by a four-judge panel says Hussein's case falls under a new amnesty law and orders Iraqi courts to "cease legal proceedings." The ruling says that Hussein should be "immediately" released if no other charges are pending. The ruling is dated Monday but AP's lawyers were not able to thoroughly review it until Wednesday.

AP President Tom Curley is hailing the decision and demands that officials "finally do the right thing" and free Hussein.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2008 15:02 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't wait for his grim tales of "torture"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 16:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Is Mr. Hussein an Iraqi citizen? If not, he can easily be expelled.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 17:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Release him in sections.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:48 Comments || Top||


Today in History: the liberation of Baghdad, 2003
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2008 07:37 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting reading the banner scrolling by: Jay Garner, Sars, Rockets hitting Iran. Was it only 5 years ago?
Posted by: Unique Battle || 04/09/2008 17:40 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
PCHR's Wonderful World of Gaza

Their Misuse of Weapons columnist must be back from vacation. Or prison...
On Tuesday evening, 8 April 2008, 2 Palestinians were wounded during armed clashes between Palestinian security forces and militants from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades (the armed wing of Fatah movement) in Nablus. The clashes erupted when security forces attempted to re-arrest 12 militants of the Fares al-Lail (Night Knights) Group of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, who had fled from Junaid Prison in the west of Nablus.
Guards! Let us outta here!
Oh. Okay. Can I call yas a cab?

According to investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately 19:00 on Tuesday, 8 April 2008, Palestinian security forces surrounded a number of houses in Housh al-Jeitan area in the old town of Nablus. They were searching for 12 militants who had escaped from Junaid Prison. A number of militants from Fares al-Lail Group of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades exchanged fire with security forces. As a result of the exchange of fire, a civilian bystander and a militant were wounded: Mohammed Qassem al-Kharraz, 19, wounded by a gunshot to the left foot; and Sufian Qandil, 24, wounded by shrapnel to the feet.
The return of that legendary Pali marksmanship.
The militants whom security forces were attempting to arrest escaped from Junaid Prison on Friday evening, 4 April 2008, after a fight with guards.
Well, screw you, we're leaving!
Hey! Wait a minute! You can't do that!
Watch us...

They are wanted by IOF and had handed over their weapons to the Palestinian National Authority. They committed to calming down the situation concerning the confrontation with Israeli Occupation Forces. They also pledged to serve 3-6 months in Palestinian prison in order for an amnesty for them to be issued by Israel.
3 to 6 months? Is that OK with you boys?
Sure, ya honor. Sounds okay.
And you'll work to calm things down?
Sure, ya honor. Whatevah ya say...

On Sunday evening, 6 April 2008, ‘Abdullah Mohammed Bahar, 4, was killed and his brother, ‘Abdul Jawad, 8, was wounded when a mortar shell fell near their house in al-Boreij refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip.
I believe these were the two killed by "an Israeli tank shell" the other day.
According to investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately 15:00 on Sunday, a mortar shell fell near a house belonging to Mohammed Suleiman Bahar, 51, in the east of al-Boreij refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip. As a result, two of the owner’s children were wounded when they were playing near the house: ‘Abullah, 4, wounded by shrapnel to the head and the chest; and ‘Abdul Jawad, 8, wounded by shrapnel to the head. The two children were evacuated to al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir al-Balah town, but ‘Abdullah died shortly after arriving at the hospital.
Make them honorary shaheeds, toss pops a coupla hundred bucks, and the Brave Jihadi Freedom Fighters are off the hook.
PCHR is gravely concerned for the increasing number of casualties resulting from the misuse of weapons. PCHR calls upon concerned authorities to take necessary measures to ensure the non-recurrence of such incidents, which cause civilian fatalities, and to ensure protection for civilian and their property.
Maybe the Israelis could teach them how to shoot?
PCHR’s preliminary investigation and eyewitness accounts indicate that at approximately 18:30 on Friday, 4 April, the teenager Mahmoud Ahmad El-Shobaki (19) was killed by a bullet to the head. The bullet was fired when the victim mishandled an assault rifle. The victim was with one of his friends on the roof of his house in Daraj Quarter in Gaza City. Sources at Shifa Hospital stated that the victim was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital.
Proper gun safety says we'd better make sure it's unloaded, Mahmood.
Good idea. I'll look down the barrel and you pull the trigger.

In another incident at approximately 15:30 on Saturday, 5 April, a Policeman for the dismissed government in Gaza called Hamdi Hamed El-Sakani (24) was injured by a bullet to the right thigh and shrapnel to the right shoulder. He was injured in an armed clash with members of Doghmush clan in Tal El-Hawa Quarter in Gaza City.
The Dogmushes are back! On Gaza A&E!
The injured policeman informed PCHR’s fieldworker that he went with three other policemen on a mission to arrest a suspected criminal from Doghmush clan. When they saw the suspect, they disembarked from their vehicle to make the arrest; however, members of the clan fired at the policemen, who returned fire. He was injured as a result. El-Sakani stated that the suspect was arrested later during the day.
Ah, one a them Dogmushes are ya! Slap the bracelets on him, Al- Muldoon!
PCHR is concerned over the continued falling of victims due to the misuse of weapons; and calls upon concerned parties to enforce mechanisms to ensure that these incidents do not recur.
Really. C'mon. We're serious...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 12:56 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I do enjoy the PCHR's Wonderful World of Gaza.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/09/2008 18:10 Comments || Top||


Jimmy Carter to meet with Hamas leader in Syria
Former President Jimmy Carter is reportedly preparing an unprecedented meeting with the leader of Hamas, an organization that the U.S. government considers one of the leading terrorist threats in the world. The Arabic-language newspaper Al-Hayat reported Tuesday that Carter was planning a trip to Syria for mid-April, during which he would meet with Khaled Meshal, the exiled head of the Palestinian terror group Hamas, on April 18.

Deanna Congileo, Carter’s press secretary, confirmed in an e-mail to FOXNews.com that Carter will be in the Mideast in April. Pressed for comment, Congileo did not deny that the former president is considering visiting Meshal. “President Carter is planning a trip to the Mideast next week; however, we are still confirming details of the trip and will issue a press release by the end of this week,” wrote Congileo. “I cannot confirm any specific meetings at this point in time.”

The State Department has designated Hamas a "foreign terrorist organization," and some groups hold Meshal personally responsible for ordering the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack once said of the prospect of meeting with Meshal, "That's not something that we could possibly conceive of."

Some Carter critics called the latest reports typical of the ex-president. “It’s about par for the course from President Carter, demonstrating a lack of judgment typical of what he does," said John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. "To go to Syria to visit Hamas at this point is just an ill-timed, ill-advised decision on his part."

“I’m not surprised that Carter would do this, as he has been supporting Palestinian extremism for many years,” said Steve Emerson, director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, a watchdog group.

Carter would be the first Western leader of his stature to meet with the Hamas chief. Though Meshal met with Clinton officials in the 1990s, the Bush administration has sought to isolate Hamas, enforcing rigid sanctions on its government in Gaza and refusing to meet with its leaders unless it recognizes Israel and abandons terror. “I think this [visit] undermines the U.S. policy of isolating Hamas,” said Emerson. “I think this encourages Europeans to further dilute their sanctions against the Hamas government.”

"When you put the prestige of a former president of the United States in a meeting with one of its terrorist leaders, you’re giving it a legitimacy and currency it never had,” said Bolton.

But Ibrahim Hooper, communications director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a non-profit advocacy group, said Carter's efforts demonstrate he's a true partner in peace. “I think if true, this report would indicate that President Carter is willing to travel any road in search of peace,” he said. “I think President Carter would only undertake such a mission if he believed that something could be achieved in terms of peace and reconciliation in the region.”

Hooper added that because of Carter's reputation among Palestinians he might be able to bring some pressure to bear. “Obviously President Carter has a great amount of credibility in the region because of his past efforts seeking peace internationally,” Hooper said.

The Al-Hayat report stated that Carter would be traveling in his capacity as head of the Carter Center, and not in his capacity as a former president. “That’s a distinction that’s absurd,” said Emerson. “Maybe he’ll give up his pension, but he’s always a former president,” said Bolton.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/09/2008 05:35 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  While I certainly don't wish for it, it would be a strange twist of fate if Hamas made him a hostage. A completion of the cosmic circle, as a friend of mine used to say.
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 5:54 Comments || Top||

#2  That would certainly be terrible, wouldn't it.
Posted by: gorb || 04/09/2008 5:59 Comments || Top||

#3  A fool on a fool's errand.
Posted by: Xenophon || 04/09/2008 7:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Mossad gives the Nod to the Sylvilagus Aquaticus™ team.

/YES!
Posted by: RD || 04/09/2008 7:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Can we open negotiations with Hamas so they keep Jimmy?
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/09/2008 7:23 Comments || Top||

#6  it would be a strange twist of fate if Hamas made him a hostage.

Ugh - you really want to give that jerk a worldwide platform to spew hatred of Israel? He'd be an honored guest explaining oh so patiently just why Hamas are the true victims here and deserve more support. The MSM would replay his clips incessantly. Just what we DON'T need.
Posted by: lotp || 04/09/2008 7:50 Comments || Top||

#7  They'll find they agree on a lot of things
Posted by: PlanetDan || 04/09/2008 8:37 Comments || Top||

#8  since he's a bought-and-paid-for tool of the Saoooodis, I wonder how they feel about this?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2008 8:57 Comments || Top||

#9 
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2008 9:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Bush has mad a terrible mistake not enforcing the Logan Act.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/09/2008 9:15 Comments || Top||

#11  Nimble, Absolutely correct.

And I BTW would not be sad if he is held hostage and his heart gives out from the stress.
Posted by: jds || 04/09/2008 9:49 Comments || Top||

#12  Quickly moving up to Number One on the Piss on My Grave America Tour.
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 11:22 Comments || Top||

#13  At least it gets the old gasbag out of the country. So its not all bad.
Posted by: Oldcat || 04/09/2008 11:26 Comments || Top||

#14  Carter would be the first Western leader of his stature to meet with the Hamas chief.

What stature? He was driven out of the White House in disgrace by Ronald Reagan in 1980. Since then he has done nothing but make a fool of himself and embarrass the United States. The best that even staunch Democrats can say for him is that he "meant well".
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/09/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#15  At last Jimmy's and Mossad's plan will pay off.
Carter will wear a bomb vest!
Posted by: Hupitle Mussolini6241 || 04/09/2008 13:41 Comments || Top||

#16  He's going to lead the Egypt Border breaching party! 'Cuz nobdy would shoot an ex-amerikan prezident...'
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 04/09/2008 14:04 Comments || Top||

#17  While I certainly don't wish for it, it would be a strange twist of fate if Hamas made him a hostage.

Ransom him with a boxcar load of peanuts.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/09/2008 14:07 Comments || Top||

#18  We should lock him up the moment he sets foot back in the US as a agent for a terrorist entity and enabler of terrorism.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/09/2008 14:16 Comments || Top||

#19  All I can think of is Proverbs 26:11
Posted by: Abu do you love || 04/09/2008 16:51 Comments || Top||

#20  He's a busy man on the Terrorist Suck Up Tour...

Jimmy Carter meets Nepal's Maoists despite US terror tag

KATHMANDU (AFP) — Former US president Jimmy Carter met the leaders of Nepal's former Maoist rebels Tuesday, even though the group remains classified by Washington as a foreign "terrorist" organisation. Carter, whose democracy and human rights organisation is monitoring this Thursday's landmark elections in the Himalayan nation, was given assurances by the Maoists that the polls would be peaceful.


Oh. Okay. Y'all look lahk fine fellas. I'm sure y'all wouldn't lie ta me. And even if you did, ah couldn't do much about it. And ah probably wouldn't even care.

"President Carter wanted to know about the election situation and expressed his concern over whether it will be free and fair," Baburam Bhattarai, the Maoists' second-in-command, told reporters after the meeting."We assured him that the elections will be held in a peaceful manner and we are committed to peaceful polls," Bhattarai said after the meeting between himself, Carter and Maoist leader Prachanda.

See. They gave me their word. Commies wouldn't lie ta me.

The run-up to the polls has been marred by violence by all political parties, but particularly the Maoists, the United Nations has said.

Oh, ah'm sure they didn't mean it. Probably just a misunnerstandin. Probably won't happen again.

The Maoists -- who fought a decade-long guerrilla war aimed at toppling the monarchy -- signed a peace deal in late 2006, but remain on a US list of terrorist organisations.

Well if the US guvmint calls them terrorists, ah'm sure thay're probably mah kinda people...

The polls are a central plank of the peace deal, and will elect a body that is expected to abolish Nepal's monarchy as well as write a new constitution.

An if it doesn't work out, oh well, ah'll just blame Bush...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 17:08 Comments || Top||

#21  Hey Assad, you've wanted to kill a US President? Feel free with the one visiting. We will not miss him one bit.
Posted by: OldSpook || 04/09/2008 17:41 Comments || Top||

#22  Darth i have a similar idea revoke his citizenship for meeting with terrorist maybe they willl give him sanctuary. Also being from GA also i can't undertsand how this buffoon came from here. Has anyone considered giving him some kinda alzheimers test
Posted by: sinse || 04/09/2008 17:55 Comments || Top||

#23  #18: We should lock him up the moment he sets foot back in the US as a agent for a terrorist entity and enabler of terrorism.

Don't let him back in - EVER! If Amy bitches, ship her a$$ out, too.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2008 18:53 Comments || Top||

#24  http://207.114.86.27/images/quisling.jpg
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 04/09/2008 19:14 Comments || Top||

#25  Dang...was trying to post the Rantburg "Quisling Postage Stamp" pic.
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 04/09/2008 19:15 Comments || Top||

#26 
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 04/09/2008 20:08 Comments || Top||

#27  The Iranians demonstrated how useless he was in 1979 and 1980. Now, 28 years later, he's stupid enough to kiss the arse of one of their most vile puppets. Truly a fool.
Posted by: Darrell || 04/09/2008 20:18 Comments || Top||

#28  Jeebus, tu (#20). First the Maoists, then Hamas. Who's next Jimmy? Headin' to ZimBOBwe next, due to his "election crisis"????

And, sinse (#22), I agree's with ya. As a native Georgian, I just can't fathom where this goon gets his thought process. Of course, we were also home to Moonbat Cynthia McKinney for a time, too. Must be something in the water.
Posted by: BA || 04/09/2008 22:05 Comments || Top||

#29  revoke his passport. make him stay with his barbaric buddies.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/09/2008 23:14 Comments || Top||


Gaza: Hamas Welcomes Deployment of Arab Troops
The Hamas movement has announced that it welcomes the advent of Arab forces to Gaza only if the objective is to assist the Palestinian people resist the occupation and liberate their land. Commenting on what the Israeli news agencies had reported last Saturday (5 April) that Egypt had suggested deploying Arab forces in Gaza to help break the deadlock, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum denied that the movement had received such a proposal from the Egyptian government.

Recently, there have been frequent meetings between Egyptian officials and representatives from the Palestinian factions in the city of al Arish.

In his statement to Asharq Al-Awsat, Barhoum stressed that Egypt, or any other Arab state, would not consider deploying Arab troops in Gaza when "there is a national unity government that governs and has its security mechanisms, which it implements to the full extent."

He added: "If there is an Arab party that is truly concerned with resolving the crisis in Gaza, then it must first adhere to the Arab League's decisions to lift the embargo imposed on the Palestinian people and help them in their pursuit of liberation and end the internal crisis."

Barhoum considers the presence of any Arab force in the Gaza Strip pointless, because he believes that the problem is not related to a lack of security forces but rather to the existence of the occupation. He stressed that the Palestinian people reject any intervention that is not consistent with the Palestinian pursuit of liberation.


Last Saturday, Israeli Channel 2 disclosed that it had obtained information indicating that the Egypt had informed Israel and more than one international party about the possibility of stationing an Arab force in Gaza with the aim of resolving the crisis.

Ehud Yaari, commentator and expert on Middle Eastern affairs who was also one of the candidates for the post of Israeli ambassador in Egypt, stated that it was the first time since 1967 that Egypt has proposed to deploy Arab troops in Gaza.

Moreover, Yaari indicated that Cairo had informed international parties that Israel, which had been informed on a political and security level, was not opposed to the idea.

Meanwhile, the relatives of the Palestinian detainees in Egyptian prisons have issued an appeal to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak demanding immediate intervention to release the prisoners, furthermore upholding that they are being tortured.

In a press conference held in Gaza, a number of Palestinian detainees who had recently been released from Egyptian prisons have called upon the Egyptian judiciary to hold the officials responsible for their torture accountable. They have also called for the return of their money and personal possessions that have been unjustly confiscated by the Egyptian authorities, which also include cars.

The released detainees have stated that this maligns the reputation of the Egyptian security and does not serve Egyptian-Palestinian relations. The released prisoners disclosed that they have been shocked by what they were subjected to in Egyptian prisons in terms of torture, affront and abuse of human dignity. They stated that the prisons were "human slaughterhouses" where torture practices are harsher than those practiced by Israel. Eight Palestinian prisoners remain in Egyptian prisons.


Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  The Hamas movement has announced that it welcomes the advent of Arab forces to Gaza only if the objective is to assist the Palestinian people resist the occupation and liberate their land.

Soooo...the headline really should read, >"Hamas Does NOT welcome the deployment of Arab troops".
Posted by: Woodrow Slusorong7967 || 04/09/2008 5:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Um, isn't Gaza mostly unoccupied? Wouldn't it be even more unoccupied if they just stopped firing rockets at their fucking neighbors?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 04/09/2008 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Count down to red-on-red popcorn festivities in 5... 4... 3...
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/09/2008 14:26 Comments || Top||

#4  The Gaza Strip is completely unoccupied by Israel, Mitch. There are plenty of Gazans there, though, which seems to be the problem. ;-)

Actually, Hamas is offering the Strip as a staging ground for the next attempted Arab conquest of Israel, which would no doubt go as well as every attempt since 1948.

Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 17:33 Comments || Top||

#5  FREEREPUBLIC > ISRAEL reportedly is claiming that HAMAS is engaged in a BROAD MILITARY BUILDUP, ostensibly preparing for new conflict agz Israel???

See also JPOST > NETANYAHU - WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DETER IRAN. Other - Instead of Hizbullah existing within the larger State of Lebanon, the Govt-State of Lebanon has devol into a minor entity = minor state within a larger Hizbullah
stronghold?; + THE FUTURE OF LEBANON IS IN THE HANDS OF THE UNITED STATES [Israel] AND IRAN. "ESCALATION" BETWEEN ISRAEL + IRAN IS INEVITABLE, wid Iran's ballistic Missles having a range of up to 3500 KM.* ALSO FROM JPOST > ISRAEL - IRAN IS TRAINING NEW HIZBULLAH FIGHTERS FOR CONFLICT/WAR WITH ISRAEL.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 17:45 Comments || Top||


Gazans' Latest Crisis: Fuel Cuts
Muin Abdul Ghani sleeps in his car, parked among dozens of other vehicles at a gas station, unwilling to give up his place in line in his desperate scramble for gasoline.

It's one way Gaza's embattled 1.4 million residents are adjusting to their newest crisis: a protest by gas station owners who have refused to sell the small amounts they have in stock or accept future shipments after months of restricted Israeli fuel supplies.

Gaza residents also wrestle with high black market prices and overstuffed taxis. They have turned to bicycles, liquid gas for their cars and homemade fuel recipes to try to deal with the shortage.

Israel has restricted fuel supplies since September to pressure Palestinian militants into halting rocket fire at neighboring Israeli communities, but with no apparent results. "We are like street dogs looking for bones," said Abdul Ghani, a 44-year-old taxi driver, smoking by his car at a gas station in the northern Gazan town of Jebaliya. Around 200 cars, taxis, delivery trucks and farm machinery vehicles were parked there, waiting for the gas station to distribute rationed supplies. Some drivers abandoned their cars, while others sold their places in line.

Abdul Ghani expected to wait at least another day for a day's worth of fuel. Gaza's Hamas government rations out fuel, only allowing residents to take four gallons at a time.

Israel supplies around 19,000 gallons of gasoline a week, 8 percent of Gaza's needs, and 200,000 gallons of diesel fuel — 30 percent of Gaza's needs, Palestinians charge.

Israeli army Col. Nir Press, commander of the military liaison unit, countered that Israel is supplying Gaza with more than enough fuel for its basic needs, but the Islamic Hamas movement is using some of it for its own purposes, including fuel for vehicles that ferry rockets to be fired at Israel. "I really don't think that this is a crisis," Press said. "They want to create an appearance of a crisis."

The Hamas government takes around half of Gaza's reduced supplies for hospitals, municipal services, water wells and sewage pumps, said Ziad Zaza, a senior Hamas government official.

Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  TOPIX > VARIOUS - GIVE US OUR DAILY BREAD: EGYPT AT THE BREAKING POINT + RISING FOOD, FUEL COSTS ANGER EGYPTIANS. Riots.

The GAZA Paleos still wanna break the Barrier and go there???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 3:03 Comments || Top||

#2  “Gaza's Hamas government rations out fuel, only allowing residents to take four gallons at a time.”

In an effort to conserve fuel, HAMAS has announced that the permit fees for Bride-burning will increase slightly. The residents are encouraged to perform all Honor killings in eco-friendly manners such as the traditional stoning and beheading methods.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 04/09/2008 8:29 Comments || Top||

#3  They have turned to bicycles, liquid gas for their cars..

oh nooooes! The solid stuff ain't available? That there's good reporting
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2008 9:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Here is a thought. Why don't these savages BUY their own gas like the rest of us have to?

And where are all their Muslim brothers? This is exactly the limit of what they are capable of: Whining and finger pointing and not a lifted finger for anyone. Not even themselves.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/09/2008 9:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Paleos have attacked the terminal where Israel transfers fuel to Gaza. 2 Israelis dead. I'd say no more fuel for quite a while.
Posted by: phil_b || 04/09/2008 10:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey, low on gas, guys? Just ask Joe!
Posted by: Raj || 04/09/2008 10:23 Comments || Top||

#7  The Israelis are just reducing the carbon footprint of Gaza! So why the problem? They are ecological heroes.
Posted by: Oldcat || 04/09/2008 11:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Tell them to consider it doing their part in the Fight Against Global Warming...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 11:30 Comments || Top||

#9  "We are like street dogs looking for bones," said Abdul Ghani, a 44-year-old taxi driver, smoking by his car at a gas station..."

I guess he is safe, since there is no gas, no source of vapors to cause a kaboom. too bad.
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 04/09/2008 14:07 Comments || Top||

#10  Why do they want gas from Israel? Don't they know jew-cooties are highly soluble in non-polar solvents like gasoline?
Posted by: SteveS || 04/09/2008 15:43 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Thai terrorist group claims to seek peaceful solution
One of the major groups associated with a Muslim separatist jihad insurgency in southern Thailand said it wants to work with the Thai government to find a peaceful solution to the fighting. A statement posted Tuesday on the Web site of PULO, the Pattani United Liberation Organization, said the group "is fully committed to finding a peaceful resolution of the conflict" that has claimed about 3,000 lives since 2004.

The statement, which was signed by PULO founder Kabir Abdul Rahman, said he gives "full support and blessing to those who represent PULO engaged in official dialogue with the Royal Thai Government."

"PULO has no wish to perpetuate violence and is willing to listen to proposals from the Royal Thai Government to build confidence, reduce violence and eventually agree on a lasting solution to the conflict," the statement said.

Thai Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej said last month his government is not holding talks with any terrorists separatists, but at least two terror insurgent groups are in discussions with mediators in Geneva. He appeared to rule out any talks.

According to the Thai military and independent scholars studying the conflict, the jihad insurgency is carried out by a loose, secretive alliance of several groups. Their common goal is believed to be independence or autonomy for the region, though no comprehensive statement of their goals has been made public. It is unclear whether the other groups share PULO's positions.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/09/2008 05:11 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This should probably be a page 2 story - sorry.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/09/2008 5:29 Comments || Top||

#2  The peace of the dead?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 5:40 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
'German firm helps Iran monitor Israel'
The Munich-based energy and electrical giant Siemens has with "high likelihood" delivered sophisticated data surveillance systems to Iran, an Austrian investigative journalist disclosed in a public broadcast ORF report on Monday. Speaking from Vienna, journalist Erich Moechel told The Jerusalem Post that he was "99 percent certain" that "Monitoring Centers," used to track mobile and land-line phone conversations, had been sent to Iran. These systems could enable the Iranian intelligence service to document conversations between Israel and Iran and "build a communication profile."

According to Moechel, the technology can show "how many telephone conversations over the last 10 years between Israel and Iran" took place, as well as the locations of the communications.

Moechel, a specialist in the field of data protection and surveillance, said that he was highly certain that the Iranian regime had purchased German-designed "Intelligence Platform" systems, which allow the Iranian secret service to monitor "financial transactions and traffic and airplane movements."

The Intelligence Platform would enable the Islamic Republic to amass complex databases showing, for example, the activities of international companies in Iran that also conduct business with Israel and other countries.

When questioned about the delivery of intelligence equipment, Wolfram Trost, a Siemens spokesman, declined to confirm the sale of the Monitoring Centers and Intelligence Platforms to Iran. Trost said Siemens "adheres to the European Union, United Nations and German guidelines" covering restricted trade with Iran. Trost referred the matter to Siemens's joint partner in the Iranian deal, Nokia Siemens Network. Telephone calls seeking a comment from the Nokia Siemens Network in Espoo, the Finnish telecommunications partner, were not returned.

Moechel wrote in his article that the integrated intelligence devices were used against persecuted minority groups and political dissidents in Iran. He cited German and Austrian privacy experts who noted that these types of machines would not be lawful within the EU.

The public prosecutor in Munich told the Post that Siemens was the subject of an ongoing bribery scandal investigation. The company has acknowledged that it spent €19 million to bribe Iranian officials in January.

Siemens, which conducts an over-$500-million trade relationship with Iran, provides vital engineering and technological equipment for Iran's infrastructure. American and Israeli critics have urged Siemens to sever its business ties with Iran.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 04/09/2008 14:07 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "At the height of the Nazi terror during the 1940s, it was not atypical for a slave worker to build electrical switches for Siemens in the morning and be snuffed out in a Siemens-made gas chamber in the afternoon..."
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/09/2008 14:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I love the picture, the modern laptop, being monitored by a guy with an ancient (And obsolete) reel to reel tape recorder. Hopelessly outdated.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/09/2008 14:32 Comments || Top||

#3  wasn't it the germans that were also helping Iraq get their nuclear ambitions going?
Posted by: Elmeash Jones5795 || 04/09/2008 14:48 Comments || Top||

#4  I like the rotary dial phone color coordinated with the metal desk. Very 1967.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/09/2008 14:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Trost said Siemens "adheres to the European Union, United Nations and German guidelines" covering restricted trade with Iran.
Siemantics. EU and UN "guidelines" are kinda like following the "10 Suggestions", instead of the 10 Commandments, isn't it?
Posted by: Thealing Borgia6122 || 04/09/2008 15:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Germany provided China with the sophisticated ELINT gear they installed on great Coco Island in the Bay of Bengal.
Reportedly destroyed in the Indian Ocean Tsunami, the Germans have not yet agreed to resupply the equipment, used to spy on the Indians and the US fleet.

Posted by: john frum || 04/09/2008 15:30 Comments || Top||

#7  The Iraqis (in 1991) had a complex, deep, redundant anti- air warning and control system... built by the French.
GHWB made a few phone calls.
Suddenly WE had the plans, too.

I wonder who is going to benefit more from this German/Iranian deal...
Posted by: Free Radical || 04/09/2008 15:41 Comments || Top||

#8  The Germans built Saddam Hussein's fancy bunkers deep underground, Elmeash Jones5795, but I don't recall about nuclear ambitions. Isn't Germany Iran's #1 trading partner?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/09/2008 16:57 Comments || Top||

#9  Obviously we didn't get them all the first time.

There are several airworthy B-17s out there though and a well-timed overflight of the Siemens offices might make the point.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/09/2008 21:59 Comments || Top||


U.N. investigator wants more time in Hariri probe
A Canadian prosecutor heading a U.N. investigation into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri asked the U.N. Security Council on Tuesday for more time to pursue leads in the case.

Although the investigation was making steady progress, prosecutor Daniel Bellemare told the U.N. Security Council that there would be no indictments issued in the immediate future. Last year the council authorized a special tribunal to try suspects in the 2005 murder of Hariri once the investigation is complete. Bellemare said the tribunal was being set up but gave no indication of when it would commence work.

Bellemare asked the council to consider extending the mandate of his investigation for six more months once it expires on June 15 while the tribunal is being established. "The reason why I need more time is that the investigation is not completed," he told reporters after the council session. "We know the identity of some people (involved in the killing) but there is still work to be done in that regard."
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There are probably some Beirut hookers he hasn't "interrogated" yet...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/09/2008 16:10 Comments || Top||

#2  yeah 3 years isn't enough
Posted by: sinse || 04/09/2008 17:57 Comments || Top||


Iran Announces Installation of More Centrifuges at Uranium Enrichment Plant
President Ahmadinejad announced that Tehran is expanding its nuclear enrichment program at the Natanz nuclear plant by installing 6,000 new uranium enrichment centrifuges there. The Iranian president said the new phase began on Tuesday.

Last year, Iran announced that it had successfully installed, and was operating, 3,000 centrifuges at Natanz. Uranium gas is enriched in cascades of centrifuges linked together. The result can be low-grade fuel used for generating electricity, or higher-grade fuel appropriate for nuclear weapons. Speaking to a crowd near the nuclear power station in the city of Bushehr, Mahmoud Jafarai, a plant official, confirmed that Iran is moving ahead with nuclear enrichment.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  DEBKA > MOUD also proclaims that Iran's nucenprog is "PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN, TECHNICALLY AND POLITICALLY"???

*TOPIX > VARIOUS > IRAN NOW A REGIONAL, GLOBAL POWER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 0:27 Comments || Top||


Saudis behind Mugniyeh's death say Iranian sources
(AKI) - Saudi Arabia is believed to be behind the death of a top commander with Lebanon's militant Shia group Hezbollah, Imad Mughniyeh, according to well-informed sources cited in a report on the Iranian news agency Fars. Mughniyeh was killed on 12 February in a car bombing in Syria.
Wait a minute! I thought they said the Mossad dunnit, no doubt about it, they had proof?
Unnamed sources told Fars that Syria's delay in announcing the results of an investigation into Mughniyeh's death "cannot be explained other than by the pressure exercised by some Arab states." Fars is said to be close to the government of hardline Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
It's a news agency, fergawdsake. Who the hell keeps a news agency "close"?
The Fars report said that the Syrian commission of inquiry should have already concluded its probe into the killing and the results should have been made public before the recent meeting of the Arab League in the Syrian capital Damascus. "Pressure by Kuwait convinced the government in Damascus to postpone everything till the day after the [Arab League] meeting ended," said the Fars report.
Maybe they're waiting for the Zim election results to come out?
The news agency goes on to say that the additional delay has come about because of pressure from Riyadh. One of the sources cited by Fars also pointed the finger at the Saudis and suggested that Riyadh was behind Mughniyeh's death. "Through a Syrian woman,
Ahah! Cherchez la femme, by Gum!
a Saudi secret service agent who works in Damascus acquired two cars that were used by Israeli secret service agents to kill the commander Haj Imad Mughniyeh," said the Fars report.
Uhuh. Right. The Soddies working with their close friends the Zionist Occupiers. And he had to go through the Mysterious Ling Tsu, who spends all the time she's not nekkid in a low cut evening gown puffing on a cigarette holder, to pick up a coupla Toyotas, rather than popping by the nearest used car lot. And he didn't have any evil minions to send to do it.
According to the Iranian news agency, the people involved in organising the attack which killed the military leader of Hezbollah, were Palestinian, Jordanian and Syrian citizens. The source cited in Fars also said that it knew the place where the killers had lived in the days leading up to the 12 February car bomb attack. According to this source, the Palestinians and Jordanians who gathered in Damascus to kill Mughniyeh, lived with their family members in certain apartments in the Kafr Sousa quarter of the city, so as not to raise suspicion.

The Fars report said the former US ambassador to Washington, Banda al-Sultan, ordered the killing of Mughniyeh and that the Saudis did so to avenge the attack against a US military base in Khobar, Saudi Arabia.
Bandar bin Sultan's prob'ly irritated that they can't even spell his name right. Though I understand that Muggsy actually did run the Khobar Towers kaboom through a pickup team they called Soddy Hezbollah.
A carbomb attack on 25 June 1996 at the Abdul Aziz airbase in Khobar, near Dhahran, killed 19 US soldiers and injured 446 people, including 173 Americans. The Saudis have always suggested Mughniyeh planned and organised this attack.

Fars also cited an attempt by the governments of Qatar and Kuwait to bring about mediation between Damascus and Riyadh, so that the results of the investigation into Mughniyeh's death are not made public or at least do not contain any reference to Saudi Arabia. The publication of this information in an Iranian news agency could be interpreted as an attempt by Tehran to neutralise this effort at mediation.
This article starring:
IMAD MUGHNIYEHHezbollah
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  ION WAFF.com > HIZBULLAH'S INDIRECT WAR. Hizzies trading drugs, etc. to Israelis ESPEC ISR SOLDIERS = ISR BORDER SECURITY FORCES for mil info [e.g. IDF Maps found in Lebanon 2006], slowly but steadily intensively colluding wid Israeli individuals and groups invol in vari Underworld/Mafia activities agz Israel.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/09/2008 18:47 Comments || Top||


Bulgaria drugs trade funds Hezbollah
Profits from drugs trafficking through Bulgaria have been used to fund organizations like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, the parliamentary security commission said on Tuesday. Bulgarian crime groups trading in synthetic drugs and Arabs linked to militant groups had been cooperating in the trafficking, said the draft report obtained by Reuters and due to be debated in parliament this week. "Part of the money accumulated from drugs trafficking are being used to fund terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad," said the report. It gave no further details.

Lebanese Hezbollah, a guerrilla group backed by Iran, fought a 34-day war in 2006 against Israel. Islamic Jihad is a Palestinian militant group sworn to destroying Israel. Bulgaria lies on one of the main drug trafficking routes between Europe and southwest Asia. There is growing pressure on Bulgaria's Socialist-led government at home and from the European Union to get serious about fighting rampant organized crime and graft. High-ranking police officials were arrested last month and accused by prosecutors of passing sensitive information to shadowy businessmen.

The draft report, based on data from the national security agency, said drug seizures had fallen after interior ministry officials passed classified information to crime groups. Last week, Prime Minister Sergei Stanishev gave the interior minister 10 days to draft plans to rid his ministry of corrupt police officers linked to crime bosses. The report cites interior ministry data showing police seized 169 kilos of amphetamines last year, compared with 324 in 2006 and 1,018 kilos in 2005. Despite its declared war on crime and corruption, Bulgaria has not charged any senior officials with graft and has put only one organized crime boss behind bars. Local observers and EU diplomats say politicians and magistrates are often linked to crime groups, and tensions within the ruling coalition are also not helping any clean-up.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  i thought Iran mainly funded them or are they making the synthetic drugs for them??
Posted by: sinse || 04/09/2008 17:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran is funding them, but as 'always' it's never enough.

Drug-running and sales is a long-standing Leb tradition. Hesb'allah, IJ and other groups likely have routes they already use for bring arms in and moving personnel about.

Like the Mafia and the IRA, this generation of terrorists figured there's money to be made. Unlike their predecessors, the profits are getting plowed back into the business instead of people's pockets.

Besides, like JoeM wrote, it's another weapon to use against Israel.
Posted by: Pappy || 04/09/2008 21:09 Comments || Top||



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