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Afghanistan
The Big Lie Still Works
One thing that really irritates U.S. and NATO commanders in Afghanistan is the ability of the Taliban to constantly make false claims about foreign troops killing civilians, and getting away with it. The problem is that the Taliban can make claims of civilian casualties in some remote part of the country, and many Moslem media outlets will immediately accept it without question. Then many Western mass media outlets will also pick it up, often citing the media in Moslem countries as a source. Many of the Moslem, and non-Moslem editors know they are being played, because nearly all these claims eventually turn out to be false. But bad news is news and retractions are buried in the back of the paper (and rarely make it onto radio or TV news at all).

The Taliban deliberately try to spend the night among civilians, and store weapons and supplies in residential areas. And when the civilians try to flee, the Taliban will keep them around by force (well, just by pointing their guns in the right direction). This doesn't get much publicity, and the Taliban get away with claiming their dead were actually innocent civilians. All this is particularly troublesome for the Afghan government, which is constantly forced to go along with the false claims, because most Afghans are illiterate, and all they hear are the initial false claims. So the government is forced to go along with the false claims, even when they know that, in most cases, they are simply being played by the Islamic terrorists.
Posted by: ed || 09/09/2008 10:19 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For some reason I can't manage to feel any sympathy for NATO.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/09/2008 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  First Brits and Frenchies, and most recently agz German troops.

MILPOL DIALECTICISM > besides playing wid EURO sensitivities over involvment in Afghani-Pakland, I SUSPECT THEY'RE ALSO NOW TRYING TO FRUSTRATE SSSSSHHHHHH RUSS-DESIRED, US-NATO/EU MIL PRESENCE IN CENTRAL ASIA, i.e. PDENIABLE US-NATO/EU DEFENSE OF ANTI-US-NATO/EU RUSS's BORDERS.

*RUSSIA > THE THIRD WORLD = DEVELOPING WORLD [Cold War US-Soviet Areas of International Confrontation/Conflict] IS NOW ON RUSSIA'S BORDERS, and nominally even O-T-B[Border] INSIDE RUSSIA VEE UNSTABLE MUSLIM-MAJORITY INTERN ENCLAVE(S).

NOT COUNTING NUCLEAR PAKISTAN, NUKE-AMBITIOUS IRAN, CENTASIAN FORMER SSRS [Iran-influenced], RUSS OWN POPUL TURNING MUSLIM BY 2050, and of course "LIVING SPACE" + SUPERPOWER-AMBITIOUS NUCLEAR CHINA [Islamist-troubled] + GENERAL ISLAMIST THREAT TO NORTH ASIA, SOUTH-SE ASIA, + PHILIPINES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/09/2008 21:04 Comments || Top||


Britain
Airliner bomb trial: The al-Qaeda connection
The liquid bomb plotters shared the same al-Qaeda bomb maker as the July 7 and July 21 suicide gangs, intelligence agencies believe.

That man, Abu Ubaida al-Masri, apparently came up with a novel design of home-made detonator that would be utilised in the attacks. Although intelligence services know what al-Masri looks like and have a photograph of him, they do not know his true identity. Al-Masri, which is not his real name, has been described as being in his mid-forties, 5ft 7ins tall, muscular and tanned, with greying black hair and a greying beard. He is also missing two fingers, probably as the result of a bomb explosion in Chechnya during the 1990s.

Al-Masri was among a contingent of Egyptians who fought the Soviets in Afghanistan and afterwards travelled to Bosnia and Chechnya before arriving in Britain. By 1995 he was in Munich, Germany, using an alias and asking for asylum. The claim was rejected and he was jailed pending deportation, then released.

He returned to Afghanistan in 2000, serving as an instructor at a training camp near Kabul, where he taught about explosives, artillery and mapping. The CIA now believes that al-Masri is dead, probably from hepatitis C earlier this year.

He was just one of the links between the liquid bomb plot gang and the July 7 and July 21 bombers.
He was just one of the links between the liquid bomb plot gang and the July 7 and July 21 bombers. Intelligence officials also believe the same man was in overall charge of all three plots: al-Qaeda's number three, Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi.
Intelligence officials also believe the same man was in overall charge of all three plots: al-Qaeda's number three, Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi.

It was Rauf's sudden arrest in Pakistan which led to the rounding up of the airlines terror cell in Britain as the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command feared their operation could be exposed. But Britain was unable to get him extradited and 16 months after his arrest he disappeared from custody in a bizarre escape after a court hearing.
Another key figure that links the different terrorist gangs is Rashid Rauf. Rauf has not been seen in Britain since the brutal killing of his maternal uncle in 2002, who was stabbed repeatedly in the stomach as he walked home from work in Alum Rock, Birmingham.

Security sources believe Rauf, who knew the leader of the July 21 bombers, Muktar Ibrahim, was the man who housed the liquid bomb plot gang as they arrived at a safe-house in Bahawalpur, Pakistan, where he worked as a travelling salesman. Investigators believe he acted as a staging post and sent the bombers up to the mountains of the lawless tribal areas to meet with al-Qaeda's bomb-makers.

It was Rauf's sudden arrest in Pakistan which led to the rounding up of the airlines terror cell in Britain as the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command feared their operation could be exposed. But Britain was unable to get him extradited and 16 months after his arrest he disappeared from custody in a bizarre escape after a court hearing.

Rauf's family run a bakery in Birmingham. His father was a religious judge in Kashmir, before he moved to Britain in the 1980s, later setting up an Islamic charity called Crescent Relief.
This article starring:
ABDUL HADI AL IRAQIal-Qaeda
ABU UBAIDA AL MASRIal-Qaeda
MUKTAR IBRAHIMal-Qaeda
RASHID RAUFal-Qaeda
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain


Home Front: Politix
Obama Supporters Strike New Low: Attempt to Sell Trig Palin on eBay
I don't know if Obama's campaign actually encourages this stuff under the radar, or if some of his more radical supporters have just gone so completely bat-guano even the Messiah can't stop it now. Take your blood pressure meds and clear away the drinks/food before you go take a look.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/09/2008 00:08 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The parallel with McGovern's hippie strike force in 1972 is interesting. These were people who routinely spat on servicemen returning from Vietnam and who characterized them as war criminals. They did not know, or care, that their McGovern himself was a highly decorated B-24 pilot during WW2.
Obama may or may not have any control over these people but his candidacy is responsible for them to the degree that they reflect the political subculture that will be in power if he is elected.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 09/09/2008 2:58 Comments || Top||

#2  These people flooded the caucuses, giving Obama the nomination.  They're a good part of his base.
Posted by: lotp || 09/09/2008 5:58 Comments || Top||

#3  I think this comment hits it right on the head:

# hillbuzz Says:
September 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm
...

You’re wrong about SoetorObama not being able to stop these people if he wants to — his campaign uses Kos and DU to spread the rumors and lies it wants spread, so if he didn’t want things like this up there attacking Palin, the people at both sites who communicate daily with the SoetorObama campaign would yank this stuff the moment it goes up.

These people are incredibly quick to censor anything that criticizes SoetorObama, and anyone posting anything that is not 100% pro-SoetorObama is instantly banned on these sites. So, we find it impossible to believe that if SoetorObama really wanted shameless attacks like this on Down Syndrome babies to stop, that DU and Kos couldnÂ’t enforce that policy as strictly as it enforces their firm pro-SoetorObama stances.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/09/2008 6:00 Comments || Top||

#4  I doubt he has any personal knowledge about crap like this, plausible deniability. But I'd say both camps like to do a little asymmetrical warfare when the phones arent ringing.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/09/2008 6:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Those who fail to understand the word, "backlash", dont understand the words "hurricane or "lanslide" either.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/09/2008 7:17 Comments || Top||

#6  ....it makes normal people wonder why they would support SoetorObama

I'd beg to differ. I suspect a very, very high percentage of 'normal people' decided NOT to support this clown long before the Ebay incident.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2008 8:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama has problems with his base? Really?
Posted by: Skunky Glins 5*** || 09/09/2008 8:27 Comments || Top||

#8  These are the kooks that are driving the dhimocrats. And if they win, will drive us all off a cliff.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/09/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#9  The 'liberals' and their MSM agents have no problem painting their opponents with the actions of people out of control they tag on the right - i.e. Eric Rudolph. When they're challenged on the point their usual and very Freudian reply is 'but you wanted to do it'. So, those are the rules. When they go 'Palin' on the miscreants [that is turn on members of their own party/alliance who do corrupt things], let me know.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/09/2008 8:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Darth Vader is right, these aint your grandfather's hippies. These are a whole new generation of nuts.
You can see old hippies in the background of some of the pictures with puzzled looks on their faces. They must know by now that this new bunch of kids aren't for peace, or tolerance, or putting our differences aside and working towards a common goal.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/09/2008 10:11 Comments || Top||

#11  These "nutters" are as crazy as the suicide bombers we deal with in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the base of the dhimmicratic party today. It scares the hell out of me.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/09/2008 10:32 Comments || Top||

#12  More fine products of our public education system.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/09/2008 12:32 Comments || Top||

#13  Obama wants it both ways. McCain is in someway responsible for any claims that Obama is black and/or mulsim despite the fac that no Republicans have brought up anything of the sort while THE ONE is not to blame for any kind of foul nonsense brought up by Democrats and their fanboys.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/09/2008 12:37 Comments || Top||

#14  it's wierdos like this in the Democratic party that keep folks like me and LiberalHawk hanging out at Rantburg.

For a little sanity break.

(and there is also the tasty complimentary popcorn)
Posted by: Querent || 09/09/2008 13:00 Comments || Top||

#15  We've got veggies and dip too, querent.  Back behind the pickled eggs and beer nuts.
Posted by: lotp || 09/09/2008 13:41 Comments || Top||

#16  If Obama wants to win in November, he needs to buy lots of prime time ad space immediately and just plain go ballistic about those creatins who did this. A simple disavowal is insufficient in this case. Stay tuned for the rest of the story - from Obama.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#17  "If Obama wants to win in November, he needs to buy lots of prime time ad space..."

Richard (a fine first nyme if'n I do say so myself), another webiste is stating that The One has financial issues; not bringing in the bread like he imagined he would and he cannot go back and dip in the public funding after he turned it down, after he said he would take it.
so perhaps there will be limited (paid) media spots from Camp Obama.
(Some part of me wants to leap into song, Allan Sherman's classic: Hello Maddah, Hello Faddah, here I am at Camp Obama..." but I won't.)
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 09/09/2008 17:56 Comments || Top||

#18  thanks, lotp -- don't mind if i bring some ribs for the grill either!
Posted by: Querent || 09/09/2008 18:28 Comments || Top||

#19  Is there room on the grill for some fresh corn?  I picked up a couple dozen ears at the farm nearby.
Posted by: lotp || 09/09/2008 20:07 Comments || Top||

#20  We gots a BIG grill.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/09/2008 20:18 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Sarah Hammers Obama on Surge
PALIN: Just last night Senator Obama finally broke and brought himself to admit what all the rest of us have known for quite some time, and that's: thanks to the skill and valor of our troops, the surge in Iraq has succeeded. Senator Obama said that the surge, quote, "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams. I think," said Senator Obama, "that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated."
I guess when you turn out to be profoundly wrong on a vital national security issue, maybe it's comforting to pretend that everyone else was wrong, too.
I guess when you turn out to be profoundly wrong on a vital national security issue, maybe it's comforting to pretend that everyone else was wrong, too.

RUSH: This woman is dynamite! I mean, this woman is just hammering this poor little man-child! This woman is smart. What an analogy! It succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams? See, this is where Obama's dead wrong. If it succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams, why plan it? It succeeded as planned, Obama! It succeeded as planned. It was beyond YOUR wildest dreams. I'll tell you something else. He still said, after all this, that he would have opposed it. So he's still gathering. He's still gathering the little nuts and those acorns that make up the loony left of his base.

Posted by: Hupeatch Javigum7979 || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Beyond our wildest dreams? In ways that no one anticipated?

Rather than accuse Him of being a dissembling bag of crap, I will just point out that the results you see today in Iraq are what Petraeus and company planned for, worked for, and even died for. My contempt is boundless.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/09/2008 3:53 Comments || Top||

#2  No need for an essay in contrasts however, huh's, and 'you knows' distant thoughtful reflection, verbal meandering, phrases like 'above my pay grade'... none of these are in the lexicon of General David Petraeus.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2008 8:38 Comments || Top||

#3  "READ MY LIPSTICK" signs!

LMAO!
Posted by: Skunky Glins 5*** || 09/09/2008 9:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Obama said that the surge, quote, "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams. I think

But he's not really sure? I think? Far cry from Harry Reid doom and gloom pronouncement that all is lost in Iraq, surrender, appease, withdraw immediately.

I expect some declaration from BO and Biden that we were for the surge before we were against it but now we are for the surge again.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/09/2008 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Like many others, the surge did not exceed my wildest dreams. It did do much better than I thought, but I was not fully aware of the majors changes in strategy that ere coupled with it. What it did do for Obama and other Democrats is exceed their greatest fears. If Iraq was a mess now, no Republican could save the white house. It would have been a Goldwater year.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2008 16:44 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan's Zardari sworn in as president

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - The widower of assassinated former Pakistani leader Benazir Bhutto took office as the country's new president Tuesday, facing immediate pressure to crack down on Islamic militants and address daunting economic problems.

Pakistan's top judge swore in Asif Ali Zardari at a brief ceremony in the presidential palace recently vacated by Pervez Musharraf, who resigned under pressure last month.

With his three children among the well-wishers and dignitaries packing a cavernous hall, Zardari, wearing a pinstriped business suit, beamed as the ceremony ended and shouts of "Bhutto is alive!" rang out.
I guess they don't read the papers...
But in the front row sat an imposing reminder of his task ahead: Afghan President Hamid Karzai, whose government accuses Pakistan of failing to take action against — even colluding with — Taliban militants based around the countries' common border.

"We are in the eye of the storm," Zardari told a joint news conference with Karzai later in the day. "I consider that an opportunity. I intend to take that and make it our strength. We intend to take the world with us in developing the future of Pakistan and changing the future of our neighbors also."

Karzai said Pakistan's new democratic dawn augured well for both countries and that he found common ground with Zardari.

"For each step that you take in the war against terrorism for bringing peace to two countries, for bringing stability to two countries, Afghanistan will take many, many steps with you," he said.

The inauguration of Zardari, 53, completes Pakistan's return to civilian rule nearly nine years after then-army chief Musharraf seized power in a bloodless military coup.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/09/2008 09:28 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This job must come with major danger insurance/ money!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 09/09/2008 10:18 Comments || Top||


Terrorist releases in high-profile cases: PHC orders police to produce stronger evidence
The Peshawar High Court (PHC) on Monday observed that terrorists charged in high profile cases manage to get their release on bail easily due to lack of evidence and weak investigation against them.

A PHC single bench headed by Justice Dost Mohammad Khan directed the provincial police to properly investigate high profile cases and produce strong evidences against terrorists so that they could not be able to get their release on bail from courts.

The PHC judge passed these remarks while hearing two bail petitions of accused in high profile cases.

The intelligence agencies had arrested two accused Mohim Bacha and Ameer Bacha in precincts of Kabal Police Station in Swat district one year back, recovered heavy weapons including rocket launchers, mortar shells, detonators and hand grenades from their houses and handed them over to police.

After investigation, the police stated that the accused had stolen the weapons from three police stations after militants' attacks on the police stations.

The state lawyer, however, failed to present strong proofs against the accused when the court asked him to produce solid evidences.

On this, the court directed the Station House Officer (SHO) Kabal to produce the record and complete investigation report against the accused within a week. The court asked the state lawyer to produce solid proofs against them in the next hearing of the case.

Bail plea dismissed: Another PHC bench headed by Justice Jehanzeb Rahim dismissed a bail petition of an accused charged in possessing explosives.

Muslim Shah, resident of Swat, was charged by Swat Police Station on September 12, 2006 for possessing explosives. The police also charged him under 7 Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) and Section 5 of Explosives Substance Act.

After detailed arguments, the court dismissed the bail petition of the accused.

Election petitions: Meanwhile, PHC Election Tribunals issued notices to two NWFP ministers and five provincial and national assembly members in writ petitions seeking their disqualification.

An election tribunal headed by Justice Raj Mohammad Khan issued notices to PPP-S chief and MNA-elect from NA-8 Aftab Ahmad Khan Sherpao, MPA-elect from PF-36 Swabi Sarfaraz Khan and NWFP Health Minister Syed Zahir Ali Shah in the writ petitions seeking their disqualification.

A former provincial minister and a losing candidate of ANP from NA-8 Charsadda Bashir Khan Umerzai had filed an election petition against former federal minister Aftab Ahmad Sherpao.

Umerzai had lost the election with a margin of 675 votes to Sherpao. He alleged that Sherpao had won the polls through rigging.

Another election tribunal headed by Justice Hamid Farooq Durrani issued notices to NWFP Minister for Sports and Tourism Syed Aqil Shah and Mufti Syed Janan, elected MPA from Hangu district, in election petitions filed for their disqualification.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


'Extremists have made FATA world's most dangerous place'
Extremists have converted the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) into the world's most dangerous area, Rehman Malik, adviser on interior, said on Monday.

He urged the militants to lay down their arms if they were sincere to Islam and Pakistan.

Talking to Daily Times at an iftar dinner, Malik said that the government would welcome the militants if they surrender their arms, but obviously 'cannot award them medals for their acts'. The interior adviser said four would-be suicide bombers were in the government's custody and were being investigated.

To a question, he said that according to initial investigation reports, two bullets were fired at the prime minister's convoy, adding that the government was searching for the culprits. He said the supplies to the ISAF forces in Afghanistan through Pakistan were part of the Pak-Afghan transit trade agreement, and there was no covert agreement in that regard.

Malik hoped that the Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) would continue to work in an alliance in the Punjab, and also co-operate at the Centre. Pakistan has registered a protest to the United States, concerning the violation of Pakistan's territorial boundaries, added Malik.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Oh, WAHH!!!
Cry me a river.
They're like a barbarian tribe that lives out in the mountains.
We don't need them.
We never have, and now it is important to make sure that nobody remembers they were ever here. Blowing up schools and burying their women alive might seem perfectly normal to them, but I guess I'm close minded about such things.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/09/2008 6:48 Comments || Top||


'Govt will not tolerate hot pursuit'
The government will not put up with 'any hot pursuit' inside Pakistani territory, Leader of the House Raza Rabbani told the Senate on Monday. Responding to concerns voiced by Jamaat-e-Islami Senator Professor Khursheed Ahmed, Rabbani said there was no ambiguity in the government's policy on the war on terror, and it would not tolerate attacks against the country's territorial integrity. "We have a clear policy that no one will be allowed to violate our territorial, political and economic sovereignty," he added. Earlier, Khursheed had said that two contradictory statements -- by Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar and Interior Adviser Rehman Malik -- had been reported in the media regarding the suspension of supplies to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) troops in Afghanistan. Khursheed said one statement had said the supply was suspended indefinitely, whereas the other said it was a temporary delay. Khursheed said NATO forces had carried out another missile attack in Miranshah on Monday that had resulted in the deaths of seven people, including three women.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  If they refuse to allow us to move supplies and kill the vermin that we need to, fine. Destroy Pakistan, kill any of them in our way and tell India they can have it back if they keep the routes open.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/09/2008 3:46 Comments || Top||

#2  I think a lot of us Porkies would welcome that!
Posted by: porkistani || 09/09/2008 7:13 Comments || Top||

#3  The government will not put up with 'any hot pursuit' inside Pakistani territory

Yeah, you keep tellin yourself that sport.
Posted by: Angavigum Peacock2608 || 09/09/2008 7:28 Comments || Top||

#4  It's not like they actually control their borders - if they did, they could stop the terrorists themselves. If they wanted to, that is: better they should go blow stuff up in Kabul than in Karachi.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/09/2008 7:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Jamaat-e-Islami Senator Professor Khursheed Ahmed, Rabbani said there was no ambiguity in the government's policy on the war on terror, and it would not tolerate attacks against the country's territorial integrity.

I got a clue for you Senator Professor, your country has no territorial integrity.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/09/2008 10:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah? And what are you gonna do about it?
Posted by: mojo || 09/09/2008 11:04 Comments || Top||

#7  If the Pak government could find some troops who are at least moderately well trained and equipped AND that we could trust, we could give them some good help in cleaning things up. 'Til then, we have to take out threats to our troops, even if they are a little over the line.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2008 16:49 Comments || Top||

#8  OOOOOOH! I'm in "Hot Pursuit!" I love it! I Love it!
Posted by: Roscoe P. Coltrane || 09/09/2008 18:35 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Biden takes credit for success in Iraq - Next the invention of iPods


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What are we doing now. We are doing what Barak OBama said 14 months ago - turning it over to the Iraqi's and drawing down our troops.

Excuse me, but wasn't that the plan ALL ALONG. For at least the last 4-5 years?

And as I recall OBama is planning to draw down our troops regardless of the situation - even if the Terrorists are in full career.

(After all what's a few million Iraqi's (or Vietmanese or Cambodians for that matter) as long as the DNC can get into power?)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/09/2008 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  I had originally thought he would be able to more or less hold his own debating Palin. Now I'm all but convinced that she's going to stomp a mud hole in his ass...
Posted by: Mike N. || 09/09/2008 0:29 Comments || Top||

#3  In one of my previous Rantburg reincarnations I predicted that the Democrats would take credit for the surge working. The most credible line of attack that they would use, I thought, was that they 'put pressure' on Bush and the Iraqis to make progress on the security and stability fronts.

I never expected Biden to so blatently lie about it though.
Posted by: Omereque Henbane7488 || 09/09/2008 0:54 Comments || Top||

#4  The difference between Obamba's timeline and Bush's moving troops out of Iraq, is simple.

"We will stand down our troops as the Iraqi's stand up."

Searching that phrase on Google and I get this:
Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for We will stand down our troops as the Iraqis stand up.".

I understand 259,000 times that quote has been referenced. Guess he must have said it. Seems, that is now what is happening.
Posted by: Sherry || 09/09/2008 1:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Joe's been reading Gore's playbook.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/09/2008 1:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Biden, Bidet, nearly the same.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/09/2008 1:47 Comments || Top||

#7  What?! The enemy didn't follow the Coaliton timeline? Whatever shall we do? I think we should enact a law that says this kind of behavior shall be met with retreat and surrender. That'll show them!
Posted by: gorb || 09/09/2008 2:33 Comments || Top||

#8  Joe's been reading Gore's playbook

LOL, Iblis...BUT he should be worried about patent infringement, though , if he starts to claim credit for the internet
Posted by: BigEd || 09/09/2008 7:29 Comments || Top||

#9  Victory has a thousand fathers, while defeat is an orphan.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/09/2008 8:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Joe's been reading Gore's playbook.

Another chapter in the Biden Book of Plagiarisms? Heh.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/09/2008 9:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Hey, guys.   Why so skeptical?  After all, Obama caused Russia to withdraw from Georgia with just one public statement 3 days after the invasion.
Posted by: lotp || 09/09/2008 10:51 Comments || Top||

#12  "#6 Biden, Bidet, nearly the same.
Posted by: OldSpook"

yeah, but a bidet is useful, and you would most definitely NOT want any sort of a hairplug in one of those.........
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 09/09/2008 13:43 Comments || Top||

#13  Joe Biden is such a fricken Genius that he invented the first square hairplugs for his A-HOLE.
Posted by: Red Dawg || 09/09/2008 22:02 Comments || Top||


Kuwaiti prime minster to visit Iraq
Kuwait's premier has accepted an invitation to visit Iraq, in what would be a first since the former president Saddam Hussein's forces invaded the Gulf emirate 18 years ago.

Iraqi Finance Minister Bayan Jabr Solagh delivered the invitation to Sheikh Nasser Mohammad al-Ahmad al-Sabah on Sunday during a visit to discuss debt and war reparations, according to an official statement on Monday.

"The premier accepted the invitation and its date will be determined soon through diplomatic channels," said the statement, quoted by the state-run KUNA news agency.

It said the emirate was awaiting the return to Baghdad of Iraqi
President Jalal Talabani who is convalescing in the United States following heart surgery last month.

Sheikh Mohammad said that during the visit, Kuwait's newly appointed ambassador, former army chief Ali al-Momen, would present his credentials --becoming the first ambassador to Baghdad since the 1990 invasion.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Indonesian hardliner protests Playboy evidence
An Indonesian Islamic hardliner on trial over an armed attack on a rally for religious tolerance objected Monday when a police officer introduced seized copies of Playboy magazine as evidence.

Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) leader Rizieq Shihab said the magazines had no connection with his trial.

He is accused of being behind the June attack by hundreds of his stick-wielding followers. "It has nothing to do with the case. Why should it be used here?" Rizieq, wearing a turban, told central Jakarta district court. "It's about my reputation. The prosecutors have tarnished my good reputation."

The police officer testified for the prosecution that he seized the magazines and a photograph during raids on Rizieq's home and the Jakarta headquarters of the FPI.

Videos of the attack and of Rizieq's sermons were also seized, the policeman said.

Rizieq said the seized photograph featured a Miss Indonesia contestant, and the magazines were in his office as part of his archives.

"We reject those things as evidence in court," he said, arguing that the FPI has been "in war against pornography" for 10 years and was responsible for a previous court case against Playboy.

An Indonesian court threw out on a technicality an indecency case against the local editor of Playboy magazine in 2007. The Indonesian version of the magazine did not publish any nudes but it angered hardliners who saw it as a corrupting influence in society.

FPI, which wants sharia, or Islamic law, has launched a series of violent vigilante attacks since 2000. Its targets have included the US embassy and nightclubs.

Rizieq faces up to five-and-a-half years in jail if convicted for the attack on the rally, which saw extremists armed with wooden sticks set upon the peaceful gathering by unarmed people at the city's national monument. Several people were injured.

Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Jemaah Islamiyah

#1  An Indonesian Islamic hardliner on trial over an armed attack on a rally for religious tolerance

Nothing says Islam like an attack on a rally for religious tolerance!
Posted by: SteveS || 09/09/2008 2:48 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Twelve acquitted of attempt to kill Nasrallah
I have a feeling "someone" will not be happy...
BEIRUT (AFP) - Lebanon's military tribunal has cleared 12 people of plotting to assassinate Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah in 2006, a judicial official said on Tuesday. The decision, issued on Thursday, said only that there was a "lack of sufficient evidence" against the suspects.

Despite acquittal on the conspiracy charge, eight defendants were sentenced to three to five years in prison for "forming a group with the intent to commit crimes against people" as well as the "unauthorized possession of weapons".

A ninth person was cleared of both these charges and the remaining three were released after having been deemed to have served unspecified sentences on the same charges.

In April 2006, about three months before the devastating war between Israel and Hezbollah, the Lebanese daily As Safir reported that the group plotted to assassinate Nasrallah on his way to a meeting of the Lebanese national dialogue devoted to resolving political tensions in the country.

According to the paper, the group had attempted to track the "movements of Sheikh Nasrallah and developed a comprehensive plan to assassinate him" by hitting his convoy with anti-tank rockets.

Security sources were quoted as saying the group as "well-structured" with "advanced training in the use of weapons." They claimed that weapons, including rockets, grenades and Kalashnikov rifles, were found in their homes.
Hope they still got em. They're probably gonna need em.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/09/2008 15:35 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  he was clearly "in season"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/09/2008 23:03 Comments || Top||


Lebanon Hezbollah leader urges talks with Hariri
The leader of Shiite militant group Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, called on the parliamentary leader of the pro-Western bloc that leads the Lebanese government to meet him for reconciliation talks, in comments published on Monday.
[Knock!]
"Enter!"
"That Hariri man is here for reconciliation talks, Your Immensity!"
"[Yawn!] Show him into the Presence."
[Withdraws bowing, scraping]
Nasrallah said no objection in principle had been raised to the idea of a meeting to bury the hatchet
"Hello! My name is Saad Hariri! You killed my father! Prepare to die!"
after the deadly clashes between Saad Hariri's supporters and the Hezbollah-led opposition that preceded a national reconciliation agreement reached in Qatar in May. "I have said that I am ready to sit down with him -- there's no disagreement about the principle of a meeting, only about the venue," Nasrallah said in the comments carried by Lebanese newspapers. "Our head-to-head has not taken place because of the security concerns facing both him and me."

Nasrallah said that reconciliation between Hariri's Sunni-led bloc and the Shiite-led opposition was in the interests of Hezbollah in its resistance to Israel. "We believe that national unity is one of the major factors that strengthens the resistance and, by contrast, that internal disagreements and conflicts are a major cause of weakness," he said.

Nasrallah said he fully supported Hariri's efforts to calm sectarian tensions in Lebanon's second city of Tripoli where clashes between supporters of the two men this summer left 23 people dead. "We back all efforts to put the tensions in Tripoli behind us," he said. "The important thing is not who sponsors reconciliation... it is to halt the bloodshed."

Hariri has been in Tripoli since Saturday trying to reconcile the city's feuding Sunni and Alawite communities.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  ION RENSE > RUSSIA READY TO VAPORIZE THE JEWISH STATE [Nuke-capable SUNBURN/MOSKIT TCM Missle sales to Israal's neighbors + aboard RussnNav Warships].

IMO the hidden/covert premise and warning in this and related artics pertains to the "reverse engineering" and modific of TCMS, etc. to non-original = improved variants, e.g. NLCMS TO ALCMS/GLCMS, Conventional Warhead to Nukular???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/09/2008 23:32 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Iran under attack in new Al-Qaeda video
(AKI) - Iran is accused of "collaborating" with the US in its occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, in a new video message released by the media arm of Al-Qaeda. The video entitled, 'Assessment of Seven Years of Crusades' was produced by the media arm, Al-Sahab, and features messages from Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's deputy leader, and other commanders.

Released three days before the anniversary of the 11 September 2001 attacks on the United States, the 90-minute video also attacks Lebanese, Pakistani and Afghan leaders.

According to the Arab television network, Al-Jazeera, al-Zawahiri speaks of the particular role of Iran and what he calls "the crusade campaign against Muslim countries" and the "Iranian-Crusade" alliance that enabled the US to occupy Iraq. "The Muslim leaders of Teheran collaborate with the Americans in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, recognising the two collaborating governments that have left these countries," he says.

Criticising what he called "two faced" Iran in its ambiguous relationship with the US, the Egyptian doctor also criticises Iraqi Shia clerics and the Lebanese Shia militant group, Hezbollah.

"Hezbollah has not obtained any victory in Lebanon against Israel," he says. "The bizarre and ridiculous thing is that Hassan Nasrallah (Hezbollah leader) celebrates this victory every year, but we ask: victory for what?

"For making them (Israel) retreat 30 kilometres, for the demilitarisation of the region and the acceptance of 15,000 crusader soldiers (referring to UNIFIL) that separate the mujahadeen from Israel?"

Egyptian-born Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, al-Qaeda commander some believe to have been killed in an air raid in Pakistan last month, also appears in the video. He criticises former President Pervez Musharraf, whose photo appears engulfed in flames. "The traitor agent Musharraf betrayed the Islamic nation, aligning himself with the crusaders that fight the mujahadeen and Islam and the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan. For him there was no other way out other than leaving the presidency."

The video calls for a continued Jihad or struggle to liberate Palestine and includes a message from Abdel Malik Droukedel, leader of Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, that criticises the opening of US bases in Algeria. The video closes with a message from militant preacher and Al-Qaeda recruiter Abu Yahya al-Libi that speaks of the situation in Somalia and Chechnya.

The new footage released by Al-Jazeera is expected to be distributed on Islamic forums to reinforce the strength of Al-Qaeda around the world on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  And OSAMA BIN LADEN - I'm curious as to the seemingly lack of input in this video from Whitney Huston Fan OSAMA???

HMMMMMM, HMMMMMM > "The Iranian-crusade Alliance" + "The Traitor Musharaff" > IIUC ZAWI is accusing MOUD + MULLAHS of being US Agents-Operatives in America's War of Global Imperialism, mpka the GWOT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/09/2008 2:19 Comments || Top||

#2  WTF?!?!
These guys get crazier every day!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/09/2008 6:38 Comments || Top||

#3  We are indeed dealing with people whose elevator doesn't go to the top floor. People who are a few IQ points short of the village idiot. People who are not wrapped too tightly--and whose turbans are wrapped too tightly.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/09/2008 9:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Criticising what he called "two faced" Iran in its ambiguous relationship with the US, the Egyptian doctor also criticises Iraqi Shia clerics and the Lebanese Shia militant group, Hezbollah.

AQ is rssentially Sunni; Zawahiri considers himself a theological purist. Hopefully someone will soon help him join his colleague al-Yazid.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/09/2008 13:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Sniff sniff... This smells like one of ours :-)
Posted by: flash91 || 09/09/2008 14:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Not enough enemies to make war against? Well take on Iran, then. They're always happy to be enlisted to be on another one.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2008 16:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Iran definitely does persecute Sunnis, e.g., no Sunni Mosques in Tehran despite about 1M Sunnis.

Maybe even more annoying is that the theft from publicly charted corporations in Iran is almost all done by Shia biggies.
Posted by: mhw || 09/09/2008 17:30 Comments || Top||



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