SALT LAKE CITY - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store. Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."
Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."
Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."
Outstanding job, good citizen. Kept your head, got the job done, and didn't have to shoot. Most excellent!
By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers.
Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria.
As they should.
Hysteria? I might have used a different word -- carnage, perhaps.
Lt. Brian Purvis said, "This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time."
Well done, O anonymous citizen!
Dozens of other shoppers, who too could have become victims, are also thankful for the gun carrying man. And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."
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A story the gun-grabbers will never talk about. If one is waiting for the police to respond to a 911 incident, you could be long dead before they get there. It's not that the police don't have a good response time but it is generally not fast enough. There are thousands of stories such as reported in this story. You don't often hear about them in the MSM or from the gun-grabbers. There is a fundamental dishonesty on the part of the gun-grabbers. Hitler confiscated the firearms and then the people were screwed.
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"He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."
Hmm, no mention by ABC of the knife-weilding idiot's race, ethnicity, political orientation, religious beliefs, etc. Thus it's safe to assume that "his people" are not white, male, convervative or Christian.
Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store....
Seems a bit of old news. Further googling gets -
Thirty-four year old Kiet Thanh Ly, a South Vietnam national, bought a knife at a Salt Lake City Smithâs grocery store and then started stabbing people with it. He was able to seriously injure 2 people before a 47-year old man with a CCW permit intervened by pointing his gun at Ly and ordering him to drop the weapon. As soon as Ly dropped the knife several customers swarmed him and held him down until police arrived. No shots were fired. Ly was booked into the Salt Lake County Jail for investigation of attempted murder and aggravated assault. Two victims remained in very critical but stable condition Friday at a local hospital, according to local news stories.
Newspapers report that Ly has a lengthy criminal record for violence.
Took them this long to confirm that Mr. Ly wasn't affiliated with any immigrant rights group and the CCW citizen didn't have any Tea Party, Religious, Conservative, or pro-life connections. Had there been an inkling or either, the story would have been big news on 28/4 (or earlier).
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Say it with me, "When seconds count the police are only minutes away". Memorize it and act accordingly.
Bye now.
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What p-moto said. Remember the CO church gunman, the mall gunman, the guy in AZ whose house was attacked, all these good guy stories don't get told or remembered.
(though I think it was debated about the AZ house, why would there be a coordinated attack on his house?)
A Sri Lankan youth employed as a domestic aid has been arrested in Saudi Arabia for praying to a statue of Lord Buddha, which is considered an offence according to Islamic Sharia law. According to the Bodu Bala Sena, the youth bearing passport no. 2353715 identified as Premanath Pereralage Thungasiri has been arrested by Umulmahami Police, which is a grave situation. While the youth is a Buddhist, the charge levelled against him is that he paid obeisance to the Buddha at the house where he was employed.
The Bodu Bala Sena organisation further said those employed in Muslim-majority countries are prevented from practicing their religious faiths, and if found to do so are punished severely. Recently a Sri Lankan woman was arrested for gazing at a child at a shopping complex, where she was accused of witchcraft, on the grounds that she had a black cord around her wrist.
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Sounds like good enough reason for all foreigners to skip going to Saudi Arabia - especially foreign domestic workers. There was a case recently where a Saudi man threw a Kenyan maid out of an upper story window - because he was not happy with her work. Never mind the fact that she was only getting 4 hours of sleep per day (due to assigned duties) and also being asked for sexual favors. These people are hypocrites.
A high-ranking source in the Russian Navy Command on Friday denied media reports that a flotilla of Russian warships will remain in the Mediterranean Sea on a permanent basis.
"It's too early to speak about the permanent presence of a naval flotilla in the Mediterranean... there's no need for it so far," the source said.
"And besides, our Navy lacks sufficient towing capacity," he added...
However, the source added that the Russian Black Sea Fleet, responsible for the Mediterranean Sea region, will send individual ships to the area.
"The inter-fleet task force acts strictly according to the fleet command plans, laid down and approved in 2011. No changes have been introduced to the plan," the source said. "As soon as the ships complete their tasks under the combat training plan, they will return to their bases of the Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets."
The navy said earlier this month that the deployment was not linked to the current crisis in Syria, where thousands of people have been killed in an almost 17-month-long uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.
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Russia won't give up Tartarus no matter the final outcome of Assad-vs-Rebels in Syruh - IMO Moscow must be irked to no end at the thought of Islamist Iran planning to dev a US-style? "blue water" Navy beyond the eastern Med.
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Those in power in Russia want to keep their power, and they are quite happy. I am sure this is true in other ares also in this part of the world. Well, the Dem's are trying to do the same thing here. The Russians are a smart people but they have many internal problems(mafia for one). I understand they are confused about our media. Fire alarm calls going out on so many things in our news leaves them perplexed. With Iran and China I believe they need to step up their presence in the world. In my opinion Obama is ignored as is Hillary. Like Nixon, Romney should gift some limos(should he win). Does the Cadillac limo still exist?. We could turn the Russians into a strong ally but we must be strong ourselves. Not to appear weak. Obama would send DVDs of himself playing basketball in English or even a stand up comedy routine with himself. Hey if people like it he could go on a road trip.
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia hopes to establish its first naval base abroad since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and is looking at Cuba, Vietnam and the Seychelles as possible locations, state-run RIA news agency quoted the navy chief as saying on Friday.
Russia has been increasing the reach of its navy in recent years, sending warships further afield as part of an effort to restore pride project power in a world dominated by the U.S. military.
"It's true that we are continuing work on providing the navy with basing outside the Russian Federation," RIA quoted Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov as saying in an interview.
The Soviet Union had a large naval base in Communist ally Vietnam but post-Soviet Russia opted to vacate the Cam Ranh base in 2002, during President Vladimir Putin's first Kremlin term, because rent payments were a burden on state coffers.
The fate of Russia's only naval facility outside the former Soviet Union, a maintenance and supply facility in the Syrian port of Tartous, is uncertain because of the conflict in Syria.
Chirkov said Russia was "working out the issue of creating sites for material and technical support on the territory of Cuba, the Seychelles and Vietnam," RIA reported. Chirkov's wording suggested facilities in those countries might be less extensive than full-scale naval bases.
Vietnamese President Truong Tan Sang, who was in Russia and was to meet Putin on Friday, was quoted as telling a Russian radio station that Vietnam has "no intention of cooperating with any country with the aim of military use of the port of Cam Ranh".
However, Sang was quoted as telling Voice of Russia radio that a maintenance and service facility at the port would be open to ships from all nations and that, in the interest of furthering a "strategic partnership" with Moscow, Vietnam "will provide Russia with advantages in Cam Ranh, including with aim of developing military cooperation".
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Russia's Navy Chief says Russia won't give up Tartarus - as for the other places, China wants or desires its PLAN to be there.
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On a separate note, it would appear that Mama Russia seeks a similar overseas base venture as "post-US", future OWG World #1 wannabe Rising China in the East + South China Seas, + WESTPAC.
To wit,
* DAILY TIMES.PK > CHINA APPOINTS OFFICERS Military Heads] TO SOUTH CHINA SEAS GARRISON [new offshore Sansha/Sashi City-Province] | CHINA NAMES MILITARY HEADS TO SOUTH CHINA SEA CITY.
ARTIC > PLA MGEN. Luo Yuan = argued that ...
> New "Sansha" Garrison will deter other Countries from "coveting the National Sovereignty" of China.
> China must now establish new Rules-N-Protocols on how foreign vessels can cross or travel thru the "Sansha/Sashi" + SCS WIDOUT BEING ATTACKED BY CHINESE MILITARY FORCES.
* WAFF > POSTER Thread = WOULD JAPAN AND CHINA ENTER INTO MILITARY CONFLICT OVER DISPUTED ISLANDS [Japan = Senkakus, China = Daoyus]?
ARTIC > JAPAN DM Satomi Moritomo = JAPAN CAN LEGALLY SEND SDF TROOPS = USE MILITARY FORCE TO DEFEND ITS CLAIM OF SOVEREIGNTY TO [China-claimed]SENKAKU ISLANDS, espec iff the Japanese Coast Guard + Other are NOT able to handle the situation.
RELATED INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > PM NODA: JAPAN MAY USE SDF TO RESPOND OR COUNTER "WRONGFUL ACTS" BY OTHER NATIONS AGZ ITS SOVEREIGNTY.
* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > PHILIPPINE DAILY INQUIRER QUOTES CONGRESSMAN RODOLFO BIAZON: PHILIPPINES SHOULD MULL ASKING UNITED NATIONS TO FORM AND DEPLOY AN INTERNATIONAL PEACEKEEPING FORCE TO PANATAG SHOAL; MANILA SHOULD SEND PHILIPPINE GOVT. SHIPS BACK TO PANATAG TO "DISPLAY/SHOW THE FLAG" TO CHINESE VESSELS THERE.
* SAME > US ILLEGALLY GAVE ADMMINISTRATIVE CONTROL OF OKINAWA ISLANDS AND DAOYUS TO JAPAN IN 1951 TREATY OF SAN FRANCISCO IN GROSS VIOLATION OF CAIRO AND POTSDAM DECLARATIONS. JAPAN HAS "MANAGEMENT" POWERS ONLY, NOT SOVEREIGNTY, OVER OKINAWA AKA MING-ERA "RYUKYUS" CHINESE VASSAL STATE.
* SAME > PLA GENERAL LUO YUAN: SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT [75%] OF OKINAWANS VOTED FOR SOVEREIGN INDEPENDENCE FROM JAPAN BACK IN 2006 POPULAR REFERENDUM, REMANING TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT [25%] VOTED FOR AUTONOMY ONLY. OKINAWANS FAVORABLE TO RECOVERY OF CONTACTS WID MAINLAND CHINA.
* TOPIX > PHILIPPINES: CHINESE GOVT. SHIPS NEVER LEFT DISPUTED SHOAL [PHIL = Panatag Reef-SHoal, China = Huangyan Island].
Taken collectively, what it comes down to is that there is only China's territories in the East and South China Seas - as far as Beijing is concerned, THESE ISLANDS + AREAS ARE NOT
"DISPUTED" ANYMORE IRREGARDLESS IFF THE ASEAN ANDOR NAM NATIONS, ETC. LIKE IT OR NOT, NOT EVEN AS PER THE USA.
In all likelihood, the US-NATO/EU are not gonna stand for this in LT - neither will Mama Russia whom Vietnam had invited to return.
Unlike Nuke-wannabe Iran in her threat to close the Straits of Hormuz, once already-Nuclear China decides to open fire it will sink everything, kill everyone it can to deeply impress its claims upon the opposing side(s).
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"China decides to open fire it will sink everything, kill everyone it can to deeply impress its claims upon the opposing side(s)."
I agree. Should they meet opposition I believe they will fail miserably. They are bold and arrogant with a much weaker foe. To myself they are a strutting peacock.
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However, Sang was quoted as telling Voice of Russia radio that a maintenance and service facility at the port would be open to ships from all nations...
Hmmmm....except China. The papers will take a long time to process.
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As per China, more related Artics from CHINESE MILITAY FORUM > JAPANESE GOVT. HAS WAR TALKS IN ANGER ABOUT CHINA IN DIAYOUTAI [China = Daoyus, Nippon = Senkakus] | JAPAN HAS WAGED WAR AT CHINA OVER THE DIAYOUTAI ISLANDS.
Read, CHINA = STALLED SINO-TAIWAN REUNIFICATION + STRATEGIC ACCESS FOR PLAN INTO WESTPAC.
and
* SAME > US F-22's HAVE LANDED IN JAPAN.
* WORLD MILITAY FORUM > RUSSIAN MEDIAS: ARRIVAL OF US MARINE CORPS' V-22 "OSPREY" VSTOL TRANSPORT IN JAPAN MAY DESTABILIZE SINO-JAPANESE RELATIONS AT THIS SENSITIVE TIME. CHINESE FEAR OF THE OSPREY'S ABILITY TO HOVER AND DELIVER US, JAPANESE COMBAT TROOPS ON DISPUTED DAOYUS WIDOUT NEED OF AIRSTRIPS.
The White House budget office on Friday projected a $1.211-trillion deficit this year, down from the $1.327 trillion projected in February.
Boy howdy, what an improvement...
The mid-session review from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) also projected lower economic growth in 2012 and 2013 than previously anticipated, and calls for $195 billion in economic stimulus to address an economy that "still faces significant headwinds."
Mostly because Champ and the Democrats are in the way...
While the $116 billion drop in the deficit could be used by both President Obama and congressional Republicans to argue they are making strides on the budget despite a poor economy, the predicted slow growth is more dismal news for the White House.
In fiscal year 2012, the White House downgraded its its projection to a 2.3 percent growth in gross domestic product compared to 2.7 percent when Obama released his budget in February. It lowered expectations in 2013 from 3 percent GDP growth to 2.7 percent.
This year won't be 2.3 percent, it will be negative when we're done. It's called, 'recession'...
The new projections incorporates economic data through June, so Friday's new 1.5 percent GDP growth advanced estimate for the second quarter of calendar 2012 is not included.
The revised deficit number total reflects both lower spending and lower revenue.
Spending is $143 billion less in 2012 and $49 billion less in 2013. This partially reflects the fact that Obama's stimulus measures were not enacted.
Thank goodness...
Revenue is $27 billion lower in 2012 and $138 billion lower in 2013. Technical revisions and lower economic growth contribute to the lower revenue.
But as Ace would say, it's mostly the lower economic growth...
But the update also increases the 2013 deficit from $901 billion to $991 billion.
Re-elect Champ and that number will go up...
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I cannot wait to see what this "Summer of recovery" brigs US!
He is so brilliant! so keen! sort of like a god! leg tingling responsible! It's Historic! Forward!
American consumers cut back sharply on spending in recent months, slowing the nation's already sluggish rate of economic growth. I'm saving all my big purchases for after the election. Provided Romney wins. Otherwise my big purchases are food and ammo...
The economy grew at an annual rate of 1.5 percent from April through June, the Commerce Department reported Friday, a pace that confirmed fears that the economy continues to sputter.
A growth rate below 2 percent isn't enough to lower the unemployment rate, which was 8.2 percent last month. And few analysts expect the economy to gain momentum in the second half of the year, as concern about debt problems in Europe and the Democratic hostage fiscal cliff -- a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to take effect in January unless policy makers find an alternative -- dampen the already soggy confidence.
"It's very disappointing for the future of the economy," R. Glenn Hubbard, Romney's top economic adviser, said on CNBC. "It's about half of what potential growth actually is in the American economy, and recoveries should be much more vigorous even after financial crises."
Obama administration officials said the economy was being hurt by the fiscal turmoil in Europe and the decline in spending from local and state governments. Since the Trunks prevented him from implementing Stim II and Stim III.
Obama administration officials said Congress should act on the president's jobs proposal, which would invest in infrastructure, hire more state and local government workers, double the payroll tax cut and offer new tax cuts for small businesses. Republicans have blocked the initiative, saying they oppose a tax surcharge on millionaires to pay for the measure.
The GDP report said growth in consumer spending -- which accounts for about 70 percent of economic activity -- slowed to an annualized rate of 1.5 percent in the second quarter, down from 2.4 percent in the first three months of the year. The report also included revised growth estimates for the past three years. The new estimates showed that the economy shrank by 3.1 percent in 2009, slightly less than the 3.5 percent previously reported. So it seems the worst-economy-ever-caused-by-Bush was not quite as bad as the Obamanaunts have been bleating. That's an interesting little nugget!
Growth in 2010 was 2.4 percent, down from 3 percent, and growth in 2011 was 1.8 percent instead of 1.7 percent. And Obama's comeback was slower than he's been touting. His Plan is working!
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You didn't make it happen! It took the government to get you here!
Greenpeace scientists have identified a dense patch of deep-sea corals in a lease area of the Arctic's Chukchi Sea off Alaska's northwest coast, where Royal Dutch Shell is slated to start drilling. I say they planted it.
Researchers for the advocacy group, which have been lobbying to block drilling in the Arctic this summer, went down about 150 feet in a submarine this week to take samples. During the dives, they found significant concentrations of the soft coral Gersemia rubiformis , which is commonly known as sea raspberry. Wotta coincidence! Make sure ya call it "coral" 'cuz everybody knows that's endangered!
Shell is awaiting final permits to begin drilling in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas and has predicted it could start as early as next week. So shell sez they're relatively uncommon.
In its scientific report on the Chukchi's benthic, or seafloor, environment, Shell identified corals as occupying less than 4 percent of the habitat.
But Greenpeace marine biologist John Hocevar described the corals as the "third most abundant" species he sampled, after two types of sea stars. He conducted the mission in a leased area about 10 miles from one of the company's vessels. Abundant? Not endangered? So why should we worry? Oh, yeah, because the WaPo wants us to.
The decisions by the Interior Department's Bureau of Ocean Energy Management "regarding Shell's Chukchi exploration plan were based on years of comprehensive study and analyses . . . including seafloor habitats," said BOEM spokeswoman Theresa Eisenman. "These environmental studies, which included the development of information regarding the presence of Arctic corals, were specifically considered ..."
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Gersemia rubiformis....? Good! Drag some fishing tools along the bottom and break it up. I hear it causes global warming. Ought to be worth at least as much as the oil.
The launch of Airbuss new A350 plane has been put back to the second half of 2014, the manufacturers parent company, EADS, announced on July 27. The new widebody carrier had initially been scheduled to come into service in mid-2013, a target that subsequently slipped to the first half of 2014.
EADS said the latest delay, which it blamed on problems with the manufacturing process for the wings, would amount to around three months and has estimated the cost at 124 million euros ($151 million), which it took as a charge against earnings for the first half of the year.
The A350 is being launched as a rival to Boeings Dreamliner in the market for mid-sized carriers where demand, particularly in emerging markets, remains strong. The problems with the manufacture of the A350 wings follow the emergence of cracks in the wings of several of Airbuss A380 superjumbos. EADS chief executive Tom Enders said he expected deliveries of A380s next year to be less than the 30 that the company had been anticipating as a result of airlines putting orders on hold.
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The A350 wing problems are due to late delivery of the parts and programming problems with the CNC machines for the actual drilling. So the wings will be drilled by hand. There is also internal issues with the -900 and -1000 variants; the -1000 is bigger and has a better payload, so several customers are switching their -900 orders for the -1000; and that complicates the manufacturing sequencing ( diferent parts from suppliers, tooling needs, etc). The A380 wing issues are completely different.
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It appears to me one of the problems is moving the danged thing from plant to plant, as Europe is not as easily open to ground transplant as say the high plains. And also, that part of the inclusiveness requires multiple nations to be involved so the wallpaper is pretty.
I'm not saying Airbus in incapable of producing an air frame, though I did about puke on some gawdaweful dangling fusilage design from DIA to ICT, but I do think there is good reason for their investment in USA facilities where it doesn't have to be dutchied to the left hand side every other chapter.
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Agree, the recent news to move all single aisle build to Mobile, Alabama has quite a few Pac NW knickers in a serious twist. Competition has moved into home field territory AND the games will begin for skilled workers. Having talked to a few of their A380 engineers ( also based in Mobile) they are quite happy with their lot in life.
It will also bring down the cost of us shipping our products, soon they will just be trucked south, instead of ocean/air and all the customs/duty crap.
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Affter watching that hour long documentary styled infomercial starring travolta, it would not surprise me if there was a position which translated German metric to French metric to Italian metric to Spanish metric.
With 30 hour weeks and month vacation, likely by the time they sluth the problem the clock is up, then have to get back into it next work day.
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Still need to translate, Snowy. Airbus designs in Catia V5, most CNC machines run in a UNIX or IGES format, so the translation needs verified, and then you have to manually enter your insertion ( starting points) and do all the repositioning stuff, all manual. and its a safe bet that the first aircraft are all hand built anyway so there will be a lot of variance that negates the CNC speed and repeatability.
and don't get me started on Boeing's Digital Product program.....
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
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Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia hopes to establish its first naval base abroad since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and is looking at Cuba, Vietnam and the Seychelles as possible locations, state-run RIA news agency quoted the navy chief as saying on Friday.
The White House budget office on Friday projected a $1.211-trillion deficit this year, down from the $1.327 trillion projected in February. 
The launch of Airbuss new A350 plane has been put back to the second half of 2014, the manufacturers parent company, EADS, announced on July 27. The new widebody carrier had initially been scheduled to come into service in mid-2013, a target that subsequently slipped to the first half of 2014.
