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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Brinkley, Whatsisname Make Peace in Divorce Case
After a week of mud slinging, therapist dissing, pörn exposing and affair disclosing, Christie Brinkley and estranged husband Peter Cook just cried uncle. Lawyers for the battle-weary twosome pulled an all-nighter ...
... not the kind of all-nighter Christie and A-Rod would have ...
... before emerging with an exit strategy about 6:15 a.m., Brinkley's lawyer's, Robert Stephan Cohen, told the court.
Coming up next: A-Rod calls Christie to congratulate, propose three way with Madonna...
A beaming Brinkley, 54, seemed relieved as she appeared at the Central Islip, N.Y., courthouse. "I'm really glad today that we found some peace," said Brinkley, conspicuously modeling a a pair of peace-sign earrings. "It's a very bittersweet moment. It really is the death of the marriage." She also said she was "happy" about the outcome.

No wonder. The supermodel appeared to achieve everything on her with list, getting full custody of children Jack, 13, and Sailor, 10, and maintaining ownership of all 18 properties in dispute.
One property for each kid and 16 for Christie and her next screw-jack ...
"A mother's greatest fear is someone trying to take her children, that's what I was up against. I won custody and decision-making and that's all I really wanted," Brinkley said.
Wow. She got it all. What kinda Super Dirt did she have on him? Because she had enough regular dirt already...
Cook, 49, will get parenting time with the children and a $2.1 million payment.
This guy does know that ya can get p0rn for nothing, right?
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  She'd know something about "death of a marriage". This was #4 for her...


She really oughtta look in the mirror. After 4 failed marriages, maybe it's not the hubby's fault?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2008 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  $2.1m ....? That's about 700 months of internet port for Cook. I suspect he's very happy.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/11/2008 9:57 Comments || Top||

#3  A-Rod could do better, couldn't he?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 07/11/2008 15:01 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Zimbabwe's Political Parties Meet in S. Africa on Future Negotiations
Delegates from Zimbabwe's main political parties are meeting in Pretoria, South Africa to discuss future negotiations toward ending the crisis in Zimbabwe.

Talks between representatives from the two factions of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change Party, and President Robert Mugabe's ZANU-PF Party are under way in Pretoria, an African diplomat close to the mediation process told VOA.

The delegates are talking about how to overcome stumbling blocks in the way of full negotiations about Zimbabwe's political future, according to an African diplomat close to situation.

The difficulties appear immense and are mostly the result of the widely discredited runoff presidential election last month that was marked by widespread violence overwhelmingly perpetrated against members of the opposition and civil society groups by supporters of Mr. Mugabe.

That violence continues and bringing it to an end is one of the fundamental demands the two MDC factions are presenting at these preliminary talks.
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  TOPIX > ZIMBABWE: UN SANCTIONS TO PUT NATION AT RISK OF CIVIL WAR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/11/2008 0:55 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Argies' military threat raises fears over Falklands
Hard to find a place to file this under.
You got it right. AoS.
Argentina raised the prospect of posting military forces in the Antarctic region yesterday, with the announcement of plans to use troops to defend its interests. President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner told defence chiefs that Argentina must be prepared to assert its sovereignty and protect its natural resources, as nations compete to claim areas of the region believed to be rich in oil.

The plans threaten to inflame tensions between Britain and Argentina over the Falkland Islands, which the South American nation still considers to be its sovereign territory despite losing a war in 1982.
The Argies are having their internal problems, an Argentine friend has told me, so.....maybe rattling their sabers may divert attention from within.
Argentinian forces were driven from the islands by a British naval task force after three months of fighting and the loss of hundreds of lives. The victory proved decisive in the re-election in 1983 of Margaret Thatcher.

"This world is no longer a world divided by ideology," Mrs Fernandez said. "It is more complex, and it is necessary to defend our natural resources, our Antarctica, our water."
Coming from a different tack this time.
The Argentine president compared the plan to Brazil using its soldiers to protect natural resources in the Amazon rainforest.

The proposals come as Britain considers whether formally to claim exploration rights to extended areas of the sea bed around the Falklands, South Georgia and the British Antarctic Territory. Moves are also being made by Argentina, Australia, China, France, New Zealand and Norway to boost their presence and lay claim to waters that could yield oil. Antarctica, protected under a 1959 treaty allowing only scientific research, is the only continent that remains free of military forces.

The Argentine president's comments are the first to suggest the use of troops to protect a country's interests.
Well, Britain's military forces are not the same as they were in 1982.
The proposals come as Mrs Fernandez faces growing opposition at home after winning power last year in a landslide victory to succeed her husband, NĂ©stor Kirchner, as president. Her ties to the Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez have strained relations with the United States and a sluggish economy has seen widespread protests against her policies.
Plus people going ape-sh*t in Argentina over corruption in the government.
Britain has plans to claim more than 350,000 square miles of sea bed under a United Nations convention that allows rights to areas that are a continuation of their territory's continental shelf. However, a Foreign Office spokesman last night stressed that Britain had not made a formal submission to the UN "although we reserve the right to do so". The deadline is May next year.

The situation in part mirrors a rush for territorial rights at the North Pole, also believed to contain vast energy reserves. Russia sparked the race last August by symbolically placing a flag on the sea bed, claiming huge tracts of the region for itself. In turn, Canada announced it would build military training bases in the region and step up patrols of shipping lanes. Denmark and the United States have followed suit since.

The Russian army said last month that it was prepared to send winter warfare forces to the region to protect its interests.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2008 12:46 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It is more complex, and it is necessary to defend our natural resources, our Antarctica, our water."

Sounds like "precious bodily fluids" talk to me.
Posted by: xbalanke || 07/11/2008 14:28 Comments || Top||

#2  The Argies are in about no better place economically than they were under the Junta. Same situation. Same game. Much different 'will' in London. It will only buy time but won't stop the problems. Interesting if London invokes the NATO charter and asks the US for assistance. The precedent has been established.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/11/2008 15:20 Comments || Top||

#3  The precedent for what? The Falklands are not part of NATO. And the US is certainly not about to participate in the defence of the British Empire. If the Falklanders had any sense, they'd declare independence and ask for recognition from the US and a mutual defence treaty. Or else brush up on Spanish.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/11/2008 16:47 Comments || Top||

#4  NS, Afghanistan is not part of NATO either. The contrivance used was as the assembly area from which an attack upon one of the NATO members [the US]. Britain is still a member of NATO. An attack upon it, just like an attack by Hugo on Dutch islands in the Caribbean would be an attack upon all members. Since we sought out and received assistance under NATO for Afghanistan, it follows that a fellow member can do the same of us.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/11/2008 17:48 Comments || Top||

#5  The Falklands are not part of the UK. They are a colony. The United States will not go to war to preserve the British or any other empire.

All our assistance to the Brits in Falklands I was very hush-hush at the time and I suspect much is still not known. We would help quietly again, but not overtly.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/11/2008 18:07 Comments || Top||

#6  The United States will not go to war to preserve the British or any other empire.

Sorta missed that nuance during WWII didn't we. I guess Guam is a colony by any other name too right?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/11/2008 19:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Not at all P2K. We were attacked by the Japanese and the Germans declared war on us. We went to the defence of England. None of our war objectives were to restore colonial territories and in addition to bankrupting the British Empire we did little to restore it or any of the others.

What's our empire got to do with theirs?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/11/2008 20:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Sent to the islands to secure what is ours
Marching ashore in the cover of night
Hide until dawn and attack in the twilight
Shake them awake with the thunder of guns

Orders from the iron maiden, (get the islands back)
Failure will not be accepted, call for artillery strike, launch attack

We are (back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

Push them back further and out from the islands
Into our fleet that will stop their retreat
Mark their positions and call in the airforce
Harriers and vulcans strikes at our command

Orders from the iron maiden, (get the islands back)
Failure will not be accepted, call for artillery strike, launch attack

We are (back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

Back in control, force them to surrender
Take what is ours, restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands)

(back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

- Sabaton, "Back In Control"


Posted by: Secret Master || 07/11/2008 21:06 Comments || Top||

#9  IIRC, Falklanders are also British citizens, just as much so as the inhabitants of the Orkneys (north AND south) and other British overseas territories (Ascension, several Caribbean and Pacific islands, Diego Garcia, etc.). The Argentinians are using the Falklands as a way of hiding how poorly the government is doing its job - again. The Brits have held the Falklands since 1839. The 1982 attack re-kindled British spirit for a bit, and may do so again.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/11/2008 21:51 Comments || Top||

#10  1947 - INTER-AMERICAN TREATY OF RECIPROCAL ASSISTANCE

ARTICLE 3

1. The High Contracting Parties agree that an armed attack by any State against an American State shall be considered as an attack against all the American States and, consequently, each one of the said Contracting Parties undertakes to assist in meeting the attack in the exercise of the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations.
Posted by: john frum || 07/11/2008 22:03 Comments || Top||

#11  I think the Brits can still handle Argentina. They arent that p-whipped yet.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/11/2008 22:40 Comments || Top||

#12  and there won't be any surprises in the runup this time
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2008 22:45 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
UNICEF resumes aid to N Korean provinces
The United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) on Friday said it has regained access to north-eastern provinces of North Korea, which had been closed off to all international agencies since the end of 2006. Trucks loaded with nutritional supplies and medicines have travelled out of the capital Pyongyang toward the two provinces, UNICEF spokeswoman Veronique Taveau told reporters in Geneva. ‘This delivery marks the resumption of UNICEF support to these remote provinces, which was interrupted when the DPRK government closed access,’ she said.

The UN had been negotiating with the North Korean authorities to reopen humanitarian access to these provinces since early 2007, and approval for was confirmed last week. Prior to the closure, UNICEF had been providing aid in the region since 1999.

An assessment which had just been completed by the World Food Programme assessment found that many children in the two northeastern provinces of North Hamgyong and Ryanggang were suffering from malnutrition. The finding was consistent with a 2004 nutritional survey which had found that four percent of children under five in Ryanggang were suffering from stunted growth. In addition, some nine percent were suffering from wasting and 31 percent were underweight. In North Hamgyong province, 10 percent of children under five were then suffering from wasting, a condition arising from acute food shortages.
Posted by: ryuge || 07/11/2008 07:35 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  UNICEF resumes aid child prostitution.

There, fixed.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/11/2008 9:41 Comments || Top||

#2  I take it they don't do the Trick or Treat thing there?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/11/2008 9:53 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Gramm: We need more leadership, less whining
  • McCain adviser Phil Gramm says he was criticizing nation's leaders
  • Gramm told Washington Times, "We have sort of become a nation of whiners"
  • Obama: "America already has one Dr. Phil"
  • McCain: "I don't agree with Sen. Gramm"
  • Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Yes. Leadership. Thanks, senator.
    Posted by: tu3031 || 07/11/2008 17:03 Comments || Top||


    Kucinich Brings Bush Impeachment Resolution to House Floor Again
    WASHINGTON -- Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich said Thursday he's pleased that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is going to consider his impeachment resolution against President Bush.
    ...as was everyone in Munchkinland.
    The speaker said earlier in the day that the House Judiciary Committee would do some work on the resolution. Previously, the judiciary panel has all but ignored Kucinich's impeachment exploits to unseat the president.
    Good policy when dealing with Dennis.
    Kucinich was offering his second impeachment resolution, which unlike last month's with its more than 30 articles, has just a single article of impeachment. Kucinich said he boiled it down to focus on the main issues he has with the president's decision to go to war in Iraq.
    Ya screwed up bigtime, Dennis. Ya violated Moonbat Ethics 101. Ya left out Dark Lord Cheney. Think of the havoc he could rain down in the last few months. You and your hot wife will be freezing to death in some internment camp in Wyoming over the Winter Solstice holiday season.
    It centers on the U.S. not finding any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Kucinich's suggestion that Iraq was not involved with Al Qaeda and played no role in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
    Guess he didn't hear about that 550 tons of Yellowcake they shipped outta there last month? But maybe he did and thought it was actually cake...
    Kucinich will move to refer the resolution to the Judiciary Committee next week. The House will vote on that on either Monday or Tuesday.
    Oh, hello, Dennis. Trying to drive our approval ratings into negative numbers? Could we get a booster seat or a couple of phone books for Representative Kucinich please...
    Former Republican Ohio state Rep. Jim Trakus, Kucinich's opponent in November, questioned how much Kucinich's three efforts to impeach Bush and Vice President Cheney is costing taxpayers. In a statement, Trakus described Kucinich's exercises as "juvenile, political games" and an "impeachment circus."
    Money is no object in the pursuit of Dennis's version of the Truth, you Facist Nazi bastard! Especially when it's not his...
    Trakus has sent a formal request to the House to ask for an accounting of how much it costs Kucinich's staff, the clerk's office and others to prepare Kucinich's articles of impeachment.
    Better watch it, bub. Dennis'll have some of his UFO buddies hover on down and Death Ray your house.
    Posted by: tu3031 || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Actually --- selling those targeting pods to Pakiwakiland SHOULD BE IMPEACHABLE.
    Posted by: 3dc || 07/11/2008 0:18 Comments || Top||

    #2  I wonder how long BEFORE the invasion Dennis realized that there were no WMDs?
    It is obvious that Saddam had them before - he used them on the Kurds. He never accounted for their presence or destruction, as required by the ceasefire agreement of Gulf War I, and several UN resolutions. The resolutions did not say that the UN inspectors had to seek out the WMDs. Saddam was supposed to show them to the inspectors, or prove their destruction. He did neither.
    If Dennis knew that there were no WMDs, and could prove it, why didn't he come forward before the invasion? Other than a terminal case of BDS.
    Posted by: Rambler in California || 07/11/2008 1:37 Comments || Top||

    #3  3dc
    Check.
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/11/2008 9:01 Comments || Top||

    #4  Between the moonbats actively working to undermine our freedoms and the monkeys at the DoD giving away our technology to defend those freedoms, I would be surprised if we didn't have CWII in the next 15 years.
    Posted by: DarthVader || 07/11/2008 9:38 Comments || Top||

    #5  One must wonder if congress will ever make the connection between their poor standing with the American public and non-productive stunts like this?
    Posted by: Besoeker || 07/11/2008 9:50 Comments || Top||

    #6  One must wonder if congress will ever make the connection between their poor standing with the American public and non-productive stunts like this?

    Sssshhhhh! Keep it secret . . . at least until the second week of November.
    Posted by: Mike || 07/11/2008 9:58 Comments || Top||

    #7  DV, God willing. The tree of liberty is long overdue for some refreshing.
    Posted by: Alistaire Snavith3832 AKA Broadhead6 || 07/11/2008 12:20 Comments || Top||

    #8  Kucinich haz spirochaetes in hiz pea brain box.
    Posted by: RD || 07/11/2008 13:23 Comments || Top||

    #9  I WANT them to go for the impeachment.

    Its the ONE thing that would create a GOP landslide.
    Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

    #10  And I thought that C-SPAN was showing old footage the other day when I came across ol' Dennis calling for impeachment....
    Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 07/11/2008 13:53 Comments || Top||

    #11  If this asshat died of Selenium poisoning, that still wouldn't be painful enough to satisfy me.
    Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/11/2008 14:56 Comments || Top||

    #12  bigjim-ky ... Kucinich's wife - not quite selenium.

    Posted by: 3dc || 07/11/2008 17:11 Comments || Top||


    India-Pakistan
    America 'twists arms', nuke rivals bristle - US 'threat' to quit NSG
    The Bush administration is privately threatening to leave the Nuclear Suppliers Group if it does not expeditiously approve the Indo-US nuclear deal by allowing member countries to engage in nuclear commerce with Delhi, a highly respected American arms control expert has alleged. Henry Sokolski, who worked in the US defence secretary's office as deputy for non-proliferation policy and was later a member of the CIA's senior advisory panel, wrote in The Wall Street Journal today that "the US actually has been twisting arms at the NSG... and so dissolve the group if countries critical of the India deal did not fall into line on India".
    Wow. That would twist some knickers ...
    Sokolski's allegation, though sensational, is not entirely fanciful. The US has a history of standing by its friends on nuclear issues. In autumn 1982, after Israel's expulsion from the IAEA General Conference, the agency's highest policymaking body, for its bombing of Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, the US withdrew from the IAEA and suspended its contributions to the budget of the UN's nuclear watch- dog.

    The boycott did not last very long. Although Washington returned to the IAEA in early 1983, the episode was today being recalled widely within the strategic community here in the context of Sokolski's allegation.

    Making the NSG defunct is actually easy as pie. It is not even a structured body and has no secretariat. Besides, the NSG was created in response to India's nuclear test in 1974 and if the IAEA is integrating India into its "atoms for peace" framework, there could be logical questions about the need to continue with the 45-nation group.

    Sokolski's article about India's safeguards agreement with the IAEA, appropriately titled 'Negotiating India's Next Nuclear Explosion', is part of a campaign that is being hastily revived against the Indo-US nuclear deal, which non-proliferationists here had taken for dead.

    Jeffrey Lewis, an arms control expert on the US East Coast who started ArmsControlWonk, a blog that put out the "restricted" India-specific safeguards agreement within hours after it was circulated in Vienna yesterday, said the agreement "stinks" because the word "perpetuity" does not appear even once in the draft in connection with placing Indian nuclear installations under IAEA scrutiny.
    Wotta shame. Dubya is making sure the Indians are on our side for the next fifty years, which is close enough to 'perpetuity' for me.
    Speaking for the influential Arms Control Association here, its top official, Daryl Kimball, has appealed to the IAEA governors not to rubber stamp the safeguards pact when they take it up for review shortly.

    The recently chosen chairman of the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee, Howard Berman, has not spoken yet about the moves in Vienna, but he has already said any progress on the nuclear deal must be "completely consistent with the Hyde Act" which continues to raise hackles in India.
    Posted by: john frum || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


    International-UN-NGOs
    Zimbabwe: Russia, China veto UN Security Council sanctions resolution
    A draft UN resolution to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe has been vetoed by Russia and China in the Security Council.

    The resolution would have imposed an arms embargo on the southern African country and financial and travel restrictions on President Robert Mugabe and 13 other officials.

    Britain, the United States and other powers had wanted sanctions following the violence that marred the presidential run-off last month, forcing opposition candidates to pull out.

    Nine countries - the United States, Britain, France, Burkina Faso, Belgium, Costa Rica, Italy, Panama and Croatia - voted for the resolution.

    China and Russia joined South Africa, Libya and Vietnam in opposing the draft, while Indonesia abstained.

    Opponents argued that passage of the text would undermine ongoing South African-mediated negotiations between Zimbabwe's ruling party and its opposition and would have run counter to the wishes of African Union leaders at their summit in Egypt earlier this month.

    America and the European Union have already imposed their own sanctions on Zimbabwe. The defeated proposal would effectively have made them global.

    Posted by: mrp || 07/11/2008 18:07 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  The defeated proposal would effectively have made them global.
    And oh, so effective, since they would have had the stamp of approval of the great UN!
    China and Russia would have ignored them anyway.
    Posted by: Rambler in California || 07/11/2008 19:04 Comments || Top||

    #2  The UN is a complete waste of time and money. I agree with McCain, we should have a League of Democracies.
    Posted by: crosspatch || 07/11/2008 19:11 Comments || Top||

    #3  The UN is not a complete waste of time and money. But it is just a forum everybody gets to go to and have their say. We should have a very loose league of democracies in which membership would be exclusive. In fact, I'm thinking more a Fraternity of Democracies, or Sorority if you wish.
    Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/11/2008 20:11 Comments || Top||

    #4  Opponents argued that passage of the text would undermine ongoing South African-mediated negotiations

    Plus I think some of China's arms shipments to ZimBob are still in transit.
    Posted by: lotp || 07/11/2008 20:19 Comments || Top||

    #5  Well let him get his fuel and groceries from China, Russia, South Africa, Libya and Vietnam. No shit skin off our nose. Screw us for wanting to help.
    Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/11/2008 22:32 Comments || Top||


    Olde Tyme Religion
    Bishop 'ready to defect to Rome'
    An Anglican bishop has said he is prepared to convert to Roman Catholicism after the General Synod voted to allow women bishops. The traditionalist Bishop of Ebbsfleet has asked the Pope, as well as Catholic leaders in England and Wales, to help him and his parishes defect to Rome. The Right Reverend Andrew Burnham said objectors within the Church of England were feeling "shipwrecked". He said: "We are floating in the water looking for someone to rescue us."

    A Church of England group is drawing up a code of practice to reassure critics after the Synod vote earlier this week.

    The Synod voted in favour of consecrating women and against safeguards demanded by traditionalists opposed to the move. Following the vote the Vatican said the result would create an "obstacle" to reconciliation between Anglicans and Catholics. The Roman Catholic church does not ordain women.

    Writing in the Catholic Herald the bishop called for "magnanimous gestures from our Catholic friends, especially from the Holy Father, who well understand our longing for unity and from the hierarchy in England and Wales. Most of all we ask for ways that allow us to bring our folk with us."

    Bishop Burnham hopes entire parishes under his care will convert but be allowed to remain worshipping in their existing churches under the supervision of Catholic bishops. He told BBC Radio Four's The World at One he did not know what form the help would take, but was awaiting a response from Rome. "If you are in the water you just hope that help will come, you can't actually engage in the luxury of wondering what form the help will come in."

    'Sexist ghettos'
    When asked if he had considered converting to Roman Catholicism he said: "That would be me, on my own, doing what might be right for me. I have a care for people who are trying to live out conscientiously the Catholic faith as they understand it, within the Church of England. "That is becoming increasingly difficult, and will become impossible, and I want to help them as well."

    But he said ultimately people would have to make individual decisions "because no one becomes a Catholic as part of a group".

    The Church of England's draft of the code of practice will be put before the General Synod in February.

    Bishop Burnham said some objectors would no doubt take part in the discussions. "But we are not objecting to women as such, we are objecting to the way the Church of England decides to make decisions on behalf of the Church. It's a very small fragment of the Church... and we say that it that it simply doesn't have the authority to make fundamental changes in the Bible, in the sacraments, in the creeds or in the ministry."
    Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Welcome back Rev., though you might be a bit surprised by a some of the changes we've made over the last 400+ years.
    Posted by: JAB || 07/11/2008 1:30 Comments || Top||

    #2  I am curious, as a Catholic, I've never really researched it. But what is the biblical reference for not allowing women into the priesthood? Anyone?
    Posted by: AllahHateMe || 07/11/2008 12:23 Comments || Top||

    #3  I hope no CoE members Bash the Bishop.
    Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/11/2008 12:29 Comments || Top||

    #4  The issue is twofold - first some say jesus was bound by the prejudices of His society that he was in, and would have appointed females if he could have gotten away with it. Teh second follows.

    First off, Jesus had ample opportunity to appoint women as disciples - and he was definitely not bound by the cultural norms of his day. Eating with tax collectors, healing lepers, praising a Samaritan in a parable, etc. He was not inhibited by cultural norms of his society if they were in the way of working God's will.

    Now to the case of women:

    Women are constantly in His company, on one occasion even privately-to the surprise of His returning disciples (John 4:27). He heals them, ignoring if necessary the ritual purity laws (Mk 5:25-34) and the inhibition against touching women (Mt 8:14-15). The story of Martha and Mary shows that the Gospel is for women, too, and that there is no separate or distinct teaching for them. When He teaches, His parables contain examples from women's lives (Lk 13:16); and in the end, at the great climax of the Christian story, as the male authors of John (Jn 20:11-18) and Matthew (Mt 28:1-10) record, it is to women that Jesus first appears after His Resurrection: they are the first witnesses (a role given them by Jesus, which they would have been denied in a Jewish court).

    He even challenged the chauvinism in Jewish law that allowed men to divorce their wives. He does not hesitate to depart from the Mosaic law in order to affirm the equality of the rights of men and women with regard to the marriage bond (Mk 10:2-11; Mt 19:3-9).

    Note there is no sexual connotation to these events either. Rather there is a deep contrast to his actions and those allowed him by his society. Jesus, as the Divine physician, either healed or evangelized women on a public street as with the Samaritan woman, and those acts were considered "blasphemous" according to the customs of that era.

    Jesus clearly called only 12 men to be His apostles. Judas abandoned his call; when he was replaced, as described in Acts 1, it is interesting to note that no women were considered for his position, even though there were many women who would have fit the bill as faithful followers. Instead, Matthias was chosen.

    One aspect of this issue that mustn't be overlooked is the fact that the Blessed Virgin Mary was not chosen to receive either the mission proper to the Apostles nor the ministerial priesthood. As Christ is the New Adam, the Blessed Virgin Mary has, as one of her many titles, the distinguished title of the "New Eve." She is a sinless creature, "full of grace" (Lk 1:28-31), who certainly was more qualified to be a priest than any man in the history of the world. However, Jesus came to fulfill the will of the Father, and this certainly did not include given priestly faculties to women, including the Blessed Virgin Mary, His very own mother!

    So that eliminates the issue of society and choice - Christ deliberately selected men and there were ample opportunities for Him to do otherwise. So that sets forth a huge Tradition (and is documented well in the Catechism), along with the other sacraments, that we follow even today in the Catholic Church.

    The second line of rerasoning is that most who advocate women priesthood see the priest as a leader, and a position of power and guidance, and that those are the primary function of the preisthood. If this were the case, a credible and powerful argument coudl be made for women as priests.

    Unfortunately, that is a demonstrably wrong functional view of the priesthood in the Catholic Church and its nearly 2000 years of tradition.

    The priest has a special charism, and a primary function that differs greatly form the description above - the description above are ancillary. not primary functions of an ordained Catholic priest.

    The primary function for the Priest is to be a direct representative of God, configured to God the Father and Son, and attended by the Holy Spirit.

    Christ is the Bridegroom and His Church is His Bride, and only a validly ordained man can truly represent Christ the Bridegroom. Not even can any man assume this symbol and relationship. Only those chosen by the Church and ordained through apostolic succession. In the New Testament, we know that Christ is called the Bridegroom for His union with His Church is compared to the union between a man and a woman (Mt 9:15, 25:1ff; Jn 3:29). This same comparison is foreshadowed in the Old Testament (Ps 45ff). Using Byzantine theology we learn that as Jesus is the icon (i.e., image) of God the Father, the priest is the perfect icon (image) of Jesus. When a priest is ordained, he is ontologically configured to Jesus. A priest represents the same Jesus Who through His Incarnation became man. Therefore, only a validly ordained man can truly represent Christ the God-man. It is physically impossible for a woman to become a priest as it is physically impossible for a man to become a nun!

    In saying, "This is My Body...This is My Blood..." the priest cannot integrally be a woman...a woman is not a credible representative of Adam, the man, the one who finalized original sin and from whose finality the New Adam, as a priest on the Cross, liberated us. He did so according to the order of Melchizedek, the ancient priest (Gen 14:18) who prefigured Jesus offering His Body and Blood under the appearance of bread and wine. This prefiguring indicates that a special resemblance is essential to the sacramental character of the priesthood. The figure, or sign, is not a coating that can be removed and replaced by a woman.

    And remember - in Catholic Theology, the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven are not the ministers but the saints. Charity and personal holiness are key essentials for entrance into the kingdom of God. Catholic women such as Eternal Word Television Network founder Mother Angelica, Fatima's Sister Lucia, and the late Mother Teresa exemplified and continue to exemplify this fact quite well, as do a multitude of women who were Saints. The ministerial priesthood is not a prerequisite for entrance into Heaven, and it is not uncommon for special graces that Saints exhibit to occur far outside the priesthood.

    It all comes down to holy Catholic Tradition to reserve the Priesthood to men as Christ did, not "traditionalism" to deny women status arbitrarily.
    Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2008 13:58 Comments || Top||

    #5  The primary function for the Priest is to be a direct representative of God, configured to God the Father and Son, and attended by the Holy Spirit.

    And the fact that so many have departed so wildly from the above is a source of shame and disgrace to the current Catholic Church, be they the pedophile predators who used the priesthood as a tool to prey on the innocent, or be they that nutbag hate monger racist Obama backer in Chicago.

    But these are very notable exceptions to the above - and thank God, they are few and far between, with the vast majority of priests adhering to the description as given.
    Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2008 14:05 Comments || Top||

    #6  I'm wandering a bit, but since reading Pope Benedict XVI's Regensburg Address, I've thought that John Chapter 2 makes a sublime argument in favor of a rational God (Fourth Commandment).
    Posted by: mrp || 07/11/2008 15:19 Comments || Top||

    #7  The Catholic Church has been fortunate to have 2 exceptional scholars back to back in John Paul II, and Benedict XVI. I love John Paul the Great, but he was not as active as he should have been in the last 3-5 years of his papacy, mainly due to illness. Thats why the pedophiel stuff and lefty bishops went as fas as they did. Benedict is correcting, slowly and gently, the excesses, all while standing for Reason and Faith against the Muslims and Secularists.
    Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2008 16:59 Comments || Top||

    #8  I would like to note that the Anglicans are very close to the Catholics, so much so that they have been in reunification talks for many years. They have agreed to share clergy if necessary, and Anglican priests can readily switch to Catholicism if they are not married.

    Unlike other Protestant religions, Papal supremacy is not a huge issue between the two, and the conservative Anglicans share core values with traditional Catholics.

    With this schism, the attraction is so great that the conservative Anglicans will be inclined to stay a separate church more than not just to be one in the eye to the liberals. But once that is resolved, they will probably have a slow reunification.
    Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/11/2008 21:03 Comments || Top||

    #9  Actually, married Anglican priests can convert AND remain married and still be priests, so long as the marriage is their one and only, and they agree to "remain chaste within their station" (i.e. if their wife dies before they do, they will be celibate).

    That's where the few married priests in the US Roman Catholic Church come from. There and Eastern Orthodox (who are allowed to marry prior to ordination).

    I beleive that eventually the RCC will roll back the prohibition adopted long ago (due to sexual improprities, oddly enough - things liek a pope's son). Probably allow married permanent deacons after 7 years to assume the full priesthood, but limit them to being parish priests, and will not elevate them to the rank of Bishop - that being reserved for those who are married to the Church.

    Certainly will be interesting, and might cut down a lot of the gay/pedophiles being able to operate inside the church.
    Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2008 23:01 Comments || Top||


    Science & Technology
    Electricity from dark matter particle
    An entrepreneur with $60 million in venture funding says he's found an endless source of cheap energy

    By Mina Kimes (CNN biz)
    July 2, 2008: 10:11 AM EDT

    BlackLight Power CEO Randell Mills with the fuel cell he says turns water into power... (Fortune Small Business) -- Imagine being able to convert water into a boundless source of cheap energy. That's what BlackLight Power, a 25-employee firm in Cranbury, N.J., says it can do. The only problem: Most scientists say that company's technology violates the basic laws of physics..... Mills' theory, which he expounds upon in his self-published 2,000 page book, The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Quantum Mechanics, rests on what he describes as his discovery of the hydrino... These modified atoms, he argues, are the stuff that comprises dark matter, the invisible material that many scientists believe composes more than 90% of the universe. The mechanism that creates hydrinos - a chemical reaction whose released energy can allegedly be harnessed for power - is what Mills calls the BlackLight Process....

    The US probably has the world's largest reserves of snake oil - several billion barrels - locked up in stuff like this.
    Posted by: mhw || 07/11/2008 11:49 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  If we attach a dynamo to my bullshit detector we can have an endless source of power.
    Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/11/2008 12:04 Comments || Top||

    #2  Wow. Just wow. Sad thing is that some will believe this bullshit.
    Posted by: AllahHateMe || 07/11/2008 12:21 Comments || Top||

    #3  Could we make that "matter particle of color"?
    Wouldn't want to offend. Thanks so much...
    Posted by: tu3031 || 07/11/2008 13:08 Comments || Top||

    #4  He's got 25 employees? All drinking the same Kool-Aid?
    Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2008 17:01 Comments || Top||

    #5  getting stoned, hence "blacklight"
    Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2008 17:03 Comments || Top||

    #6  I sure wish that guy who built that 400MPG carburetor was around.
    But I heard the oil companies had him killed...
    Posted by: tu3031 || 07/11/2008 17:06 Comments || Top||

    #7  tu,

    You heard about the 'black hole' argument among the Dallas [TX] County Commissioners, I guess.
    Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/11/2008 21:39 Comments || Top||

    #8  Bright Pebbles,

    Are your Dark Matter Dynamos Boosted by Hamster and Gerbil Power for starters?

    female associates of mine in white coats want to know Dude!
    ~:)
    Posted by: RD || 07/11/2008 21:40 Comments || Top||

    #9  This guy is still at it?? Where's the SEC when you need them?
    Posted by: KBK || 07/11/2008 22:22 Comments || Top||

    #10  Ask Richard Gere, he's an expert on that power source.
    Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/11/2008 22:39 Comments || Top||


    Home Front Economy
    Options expert calls Fannie, Freddie shares 'worthless'
    Market analyst Jon Najarian at options research firm OptionMonster Inc. in a research note Friday morning said that, although he believes government-sponsored mortgage giants Fannie Mae will continue doing business, "their shares in my opinion are likely worthless." He said crude-oil prices hitting another record and tough talk from Treasury Secretary Paulson on banks had set the table for a "monster" day in the markets Friday. "There is no reading between the lines necessary here," Najarian wrote. "I think Freddie and Fannie equity may be toast, which means the government will simply take over both, as [it] can't let $5 trillion in mortgages vaporize."
    Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2008 12:30 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  They should feel free to let my mortgage "vaporize".
    Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/11/2008 12:52 Comments || Top||

    #2  Ft.com on collapse of Fannie and Freddie.
    Posted by: 3dc || 07/11/2008 13:36 Comments || Top||

    #3  Why do I get the feeling that the financial world wouldn't mind seeing this happen. I can't imagine why, before Fannie and Freddie many banks didn't even want to deal in home loans. Down payments were prohibitively high, and interest rates were the same as construction loans.

    Consider this, if you wanted to destroy everything that makes us America, this would be a good place to strike a blow.
    Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/11/2008 15:17 Comments || Top||



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