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-Lurid Crime Tales-
The great bacon crime spree of 2011
Posted by: Frozen Al || 09/26/2011 15:16 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ..guess they're running out of copper to steal.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/26/2011 15:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Bacon. Worth killing for, worth dying for...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/26/2011 18:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Farming as you can see is becoming more difficult.
Hay bales stolen, farm equipment, parts, and livestock. The same is happening just about everywhere. Leave a bike in the front yard and good luck with that. Radio in your car or package good luck. Some don't allow their children to play outside after 5:00 PM. We had an Amish group of twenty stealing farm equipment parts. It's all too common the many different crimes about us.
Posted by: Dale || 09/26/2011 18:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Breakfast Bacon + Organ Transplantation.

Stealing Bacon is the 21st Century equivalent of 17-19th Century Graverobbing to sell to highly competitive medical schools + Young FrankenSteens.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2011 19:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Soon enough they'll be stealing copper jacketed lead, but only a little, and only once,
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/26/2011 20:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Hell, send'em to Texas. We've got hogs.
At least we know they aren't Muslim.
Or maybe Jack Muslims.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/26/2011 23:12 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Obamaville, NJ
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/26/2011 02:25 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Officially there are 700,000 homeless people in the US. According to the UN, America's refusal to guarantee them access to water and sanitation, and its “criminalisation” of homelessness, is a violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Prolly one of the UN's biggest worries - the US violating human rights.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2011 8:39 Comments || Top||

#2  However, Obama had a half a billion dollars to fund a crony capitalist campaign donor for make believe 'green' jobs among other massive wastes of resources. The problem is who you put in charge. BTW, who did the MSM back for prez last time around? /rhet question
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/26/2011 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Not sure how "sanitation and water" are Rights (restrictions on state power)???
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2011 9:08 Comments || Top||

#4  And in Florida: Hundreds sell their own burial plots to make some quick cash: Tough economic times transform funeral industry
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/26/2011 11:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Water and sanitation might not be a bad idea. It's a public health thing. When they're peeing and pooping in the river valley that's not sanitary for anybody, homeless or landed gentry. We could set up some port-o-potties for them.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/26/2011 11:56 Comments || Top||

#6  founded by Steve Brigham, a pastor and out-of-work electrical engineer

Ok, he's an electrical engineer, but surely any engineer would think first in terms of digging a proper glory hole, as a matter of principle?
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2011 12:07 Comments || Top||

#7  I was merely grumbling of the stretching to breaking point of the term "Rights", not the proper functions of the state...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2011 12:11 Comments || Top||

#8  These stories always remind me of the time a reporter in Knoxville I think it was decided to see what it was like being 'homeless'. He quickly discovered there were so many shelters, church groups, etc providing assistance that you only slept in the cold and went hungry if you wanted to.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division || 09/26/2011 12:25 Comments || Top||

#9  That very much depends on the time and place, Silentbrick.
Posted by: lotp || 09/26/2011 12:40 Comments || Top||

#10  Never trust an EE to do a civil engineer's job.
Posted by: The Other Beldar || 09/26/2011 12:57 Comments || Top||

#11  They have access to water and sanitation; they refuse to use it. Just as there are shelters and rehab clinics and mental health facilities all stocked and staffed with taxpayer funds, not to mention the often-present relatives and church folk. The problem is, all of those require the bums to stop wallowing in whatever drug they've chosen, and the bums prefer their drugs to food, water, cleanliness, and self-respect.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/26/2011 14:43 Comments || Top||

#12  TW, do you know what a "glory hole" is? I recommend you DO NOT google the term!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 09/26/2011 17:24 Comments || Top||

#13  "a pastor and out-of-work electrical engineer"

In my past experience (different job from now), all the electrical engineers I met were weird/nuts. (Not all EEs, just all I met - and that was too many.)

Apologies to any R'burg electrical engineers, who are obviously sane by virtue of their choosing to come here. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2011 18:25 Comments || Top||

#14  If you are an EE and have been unemployed for a while it seems to me you don't want to go where the jobs are.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/26/2011 19:13 Comments || Top||

#15  TW, do you know what a "glory hole" is? I recommend you DO NOT google the term!

Of course I googled it, Scooter. As you discerned, it isn't anything like another term for outhouse that I thought it was. Oh well, my education increases, once again.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2011 19:15 Comments || Top||

#16  all the electrical engineers I met were weird/nuts.
Maybe they haven't had their Pon Farr vaccination yet.
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2011 19:35 Comments || Top||

#17  I Binged it too, Scooter - good lord! >:-(
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2011 21:13 Comments || Top||

#18  A Brit publication. For the MSM, homeless cease to exist as long as a D is in the WH.
Posted by: Cincinnatus Chili || 09/26/2011 21:25 Comments || Top||

#19  all the EEs I know are Chinese
Posted by: Frank G || 09/26/2011 21:27 Comments || Top||

#20  ...who went to US universities?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/26/2011 22:21 Comments || Top||

#21  yep
Posted by: Frank G || 09/26/2011 23:04 Comments || Top||

#22  My wife's uncle is an EE.
Posted by: badanov || 09/26/2011 23:17 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Ten die of dengue in Lahore
[Dawn] Ten more patients died of dengue fever in the scenic provincial capital on Sunday, raising the corpse count to 113 in the city alone.

Meanwhile,
...back at the fist fight, Jake ducked another roundhouse, then parried with his left, then with his right, finally with his chin...
434 more cases of dengue fever were reported in Punjab today, including 379 in Lahore.

According to a Punjab Health Department report, total number of dengue fever cases had reached 9148 in Lahore and overall 10215 in Punjab.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


UN warns of food crisis in flood-hit areas
[Dawn] The United Nations
...aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society...
warned on Saturday of a food security and shelter crisis, saying it would soon run out of its stocks of food, essential medicines and tents if the international community failed to support the rapid response plan for flood victims in Sindh.

Speaking at a briefing for diplomats and donor agencies arranged by the cabinet division and National Disaster Management Authority, UN's Humanitarian Coordinator in Pakistain Timo Pakkala said that after almost a week of its launch, confirmed donor contributions to the rapid response plan amounted to only $9 million -- just around 3 per cent of the funds required.

"This is awfully inadequate," he said.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani
... Pakistain's erstwhile current prime minister, whose occasional feats of mental gymnastics can be awe-inspiring ...
said the scale of devastation this year was no less than what the nation experienced last year.

Since the spread of the floods is all across Sindh, the national and international relief agencies and the media must portray its severity to the world, he added.

Mr Gilani said the calamity besides claiming hundreds of lives had also resulted in huge economic loss as standing crops had been destroyed and hundreds of thousands of houses washed away or damaged.

Mr Pakkala termed the resource situation extremely dire and said new funding commitments for the plan were needed urgently.

"I appeal to the international community to fully support the people of Pakistain and the rapid response plan to ensure that we can save lives now as well as tomorrow," he said.

He said that an emergency grant was being processed for Pakistain from the UN's central emergency response fund. The UN emergency support, he pointed out, came largely from contingency and in-country stocks.

"The UN will face a depletion of relief food in one month and emergency shelter items will run out within weeks," he said.

He said that more than 80 per cent of people affected by floods relied directly or indirectly upon agriculture and livestock for their livelihood.

"There are serious concerns related to the rise in cases of waterborne diseases, along with malaria and dengue fever. Many people are living without shelter and are exposed to contaminated stagnant water."

NDMA chairman Dr Zafar Qadir said that the corpse count had reached 392 and the number of houses damaged by the floods was 1.5 million.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  This is the same country where the ISI plots the death of Americans and holds meetings with China and Saudi on how to counter US complaints... well let them starve!
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/26/2011 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe they should take up fishing?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/26/2011 20:22 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd be willing to donate some pork....
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2011 21:20 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK marching banned in 5 London boroughs for 30 days
The UK government has granted police the right to prevent far-right groups from marching through five London boroughs for 30 days, prompting concerns that a dangerous precedent has been set in terms of police power and freedom of expression.

Scotland Yard says it applied for the ban over fears of violence and disorder planned by the English Defence League earlier this month. The ban comes hot on the heels of widespread rioting in many English cities in August. It also coincides with the introduction of government austerity measures, which some say amount to the dismantling of the entire welfare state.

Many say public fear of civil unrest is being manipulated to prevent unions from turning out to protest fierce cuts.

"They are talking about area curfews, they are talking about shutting down Facebook [and other] social network sites," [Patrick OÂ’Regan from the WorkersÂ’ Revolutionary Party] said. "They are talking about dictatorial civil war measures because what they are doing in Britain is creating a historic change, in which inevitably the majority of Britain will oppose them."

The Home Office can only stop marching -- it is powerless to prevent people from gathering. But workers' organizations argue it is no good just standing there. You have to be able to march in order to make a statement, as the unions did in March, when more than a quarter of a million people turned out to protest the cuts.

Activists say that is exactly what the government is trying to stop.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/26/2011 14:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The one thing they won't shut down is the Muzzies screaming for murder. That's just too damn PC.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/26/2011 15:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The EDL's leaders say they are opposed to racism and that the EDL is an "multi-ethnic, multi-religious movement and we are proud of that".[155] Trevor Kelway, a spokesman for the EDL, has denied that the group is racist. He said he had taken over as spokesman because the previous spokesman was Islamophobic. "We would march alongside Muslims and Jews who are against militant Islam," he said. "There were none on Saturday and an all-white group doesn't look good. But they can join the EDL as long as they accept an English way of life. It is the people who threaten with bombs and violence and threaten and bomb our troops – they don't belong here."

Again, maybe somebody can enlighten me as to why the EDL is "far-right" or "fascist."
Posted by: Secret Master || 09/26/2011 15:53 Comments || Top||

#3  > Scotland Yard says it applied for the ban over fears of violence and disorder planned by the English Defence League earlier this month.

I doubt that... They banned it on the grounds it would cause our usual suspects (who I am sure will be allowed to do whatever they like) to cause trouble...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2011 16:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
US Presidential Race: Cain upsets Perry
[Emirates 24/7] Former pizza executive Herman Cain surprised rival Rick Perry with an upset victory on Saturday in a Republican presidential straw poll in Florida, dealing a disappointing loss to the Texas governor two days after a shaky debate performance.

Perry, leading in the polls for the 2012 US Republican presidential nomination to run against Democratic President Barack B.O. Obama, had needed a victory in what was an early test of strength to salve the wounds left over from a debate with his rivals on Thursday in which he struggled.

Instead, former Godfather's Pizza executive Cain, who is far behind the two top-tier candidates Perry and Mitt Romney in national polls, won with 37 percent of 2,657 votes cast.

Perry was a distant second at 15 percent, just ahead of Romney, who won 14 percent despite not participating in the poll. Further back were Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann.

Florida's straw poll is nonbinding and significant only in terms of showing a candidate's strength in the state. State contests to pick the nominee do not start until next year.
The Perry camp shrugged off the results.

"Cain won, we still have work to do," said Perry front man Mark Miner. "It's his day. The conservative message won today. We've been in this race for five weeks. We're going to continue campaigning hard."

Miner put the focus on Romney's third-place finish, saying Perry's chief rival has been running for president for years and is still not breaking through.

"It's more of what happened to Mitt Romney. He's not going to be crowned president of the United States. He's going to have to work for it. And after five and a half years he once again got rejected in a key state in the Republican primary process," Miner said.

Perry created doubts among some conservatives at a Republican candidates debate on Thursday, which he admitted on Friday was not his best performance. He was criticized by his rivals for a Texas policy that allows children of undocumented Democrats to pay in-state tuition rates at Texas colleges.

"Perry doesn't stand for our constitutional values," said delegate Kris Anne Hall, who voted for Cain. "Perry doesn't stand up against illegal immigration."

Perry surrogate Michael Williams, addressing the straw poll delegates on Saturday before the vote, sought to do some damage control for the Texas governor, who had addressed an Orlando breakfast earlier before campaigning in Michigan.

"We're not electing a debater-in-chief, we're electing a commander-in-chief," said Williams, adding that no Texas undocumented Democrat had received a handout for a free education.

Cain, who promotes himself as a pragmatic problem-solver with a clear tax reform plan, eagerly welcomed the victory. "This is a sign of our growing momentum and my candidacy that cannot be ignored," Cain said after his win.

Most political analysts give him no chance of winning the nomination.

But Florida's Republican Party noted that, since 1979, every winner of the Florida straw poll has gone on to become the nominee. Senator John Maverick McCain
... the Senator-for-Life from Arizona, former presidential candidate and even more former foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution...
won it in the 2008 cycle and defeated Romney to become the nominee.

Florida, the most populous of the presidential swing states, is a critical test for both Republicans and Democrats. The Florida vote was so close in the 2000 election that it led to a ballot recount battle between Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush, who was ruled the winner.

Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, and Bachmann chose not to compete in the straw poll but their names were put on the ballot since they took part in the debate and spoke to delegates in Orlando.
Perry issued a statement after the straw poll results were revealed that was clearly aimed at Romney.

"Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future, not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season," Perry said.

Romney also held off from directly targeting Perry in a speech later on Saturday in Michigan. Instead, he took aim at Obama and made his case against Perry indirectly.

Romney called for strict measures to stop undocumented Democrats, and echoed his contention that the country needs a businessman like himself, not a career politician like Obama or Perry, to solve U.S. economic problems.

"Those skills are what are needed in America today," said Romney, the multimillionaire founder of private equity firm Bain Capital.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who can turn down free Pizza?
Posted by: Fester Dark Lord of the Mongol Horde9444 || 09/26/2011 1:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Theatre of the absurd.
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 09/26/2011 1:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Cain is the man. We will be a lucky nation if he is our next president.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 09/26/2011 5:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Not with the media we have today. Cain wins, but the ink is about everyone else.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2011 6:14 Comments || Top||

#5  After Perry's meltdown, Cain was the next logical pick. I think he has what this nation needs. He has turned around 4 bankrupting businesses and has old world experience.
Posted by: newc || 09/26/2011 8:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Pleaaaaase, open an elementary manual on poll methodology 101, first page, first sentence is "Straw polls are meaningless" and it is easy to prove it.

Suppose there are two options: A with 90% of the voters and B with 10%. Now, in the straw poll, only 1% of A people vote because the As don't feel it is important to vote in a starw, aka fake poll. But either because there are very militant or because there is a concerted effort 100% of Bs vote. End result is that despite being outnumbered 9 to 11, the Bs will outnumber the As 11 to 1 in the straw poll.

Understood? Now let's put straw poll results, _any_ straw poll results where they belong: in the waste basket.
Posted by: JFM || 09/26/2011 8:55 Comments || Top||

#7  JFM,
see quote below:
since 1979, every winner of the Florida straw poll has gone on to become the nominee.

That's the important point.
Posted by: Frozen Al || 09/26/2011 11:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Any one of those candidates would be better than the incumbent.

That said, if Cain says Chile one more time I'm gonna turn off the TV.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/26/2011 12:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Frozen Al

And? It can be either because there was no organized effort or no significant militancy bias (thiis is no longer true now that we have the Tea Party) or because it was a self-fullfilinng prophecy ie people saw the winner as the most electable (between realtively close profiles). But straw pols continue to be a rotten way to investigate vote. BTW, it was the system who brought you McCain and what is his name who was crushed by Clinton in 1996.
Posted by: JFM || 09/26/2011 12:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Cain is the best candidate in this field and I've believed that since day one.
Posted by: Chris W. || 09/26/2011 14:29 Comments || Top||

#11  All else aside, I agree, Chris W. Cain is the right man at the right time. USA Corp. is bankrupt and someone who knows how to turn this bucket around is exactly what's needed. The happenstance of his skin color also neutralizes the race issue, or at least very effectively beclowns those who will no doubt continue sputtering about it.

I don't think the question is whether he's so much better than Perry or Romney or whoever. What matters is: can he beat BHO? I hate to emphasize his race, but if the choice comes down to two black guys, I think who's the decisive alpha male and who's the vain, finger-pointing beta male will be crystal clear. And that makes him electable.
Posted by: RandomJD || 09/26/2011 19:34 Comments || Top||

#12  I hate to disagree with you, RandomJD, especially because I really like Mr. Cain's moxie. But to be an effective president one needs the political experience to play politics with the big boys and girls in Washington, and he just doesn't have that. Part of President Obama,s problem as president -- besides being wrong on all the issues and an vicious, petty ass who isn't nearly as intelligent as he's been told he is -- is that he just doesn't have enough political experience to even be aware of much of what is happening about him, let alone know how to affect it. I would br very happy to vote for Mr. Cain after he'd spent a few terms in the House, or as a state governor.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2011 19:48 Comments || Top||

#13  Pretty much any MSM piece on the Republican candidates from now until the election is going to be a hit piece on whoever looks like the front-runner. Think of it as battle-space preparation.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/26/2011 19:51 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Does NYPD have anti-aircraft capabilities?
From 9/25/11 CBS 60 Minutes interview with NYPD police commissioner Ray Kelly:
Kelly: Well, it's something that's on our radar screen. I mean in an extreme situation, you would have some means to take down a plane.

Pelley: Do you mean to say that the NYPD has the means to take down an aircraft?

Kelly: Yes, I prefer not to get into the details but obviously this would be in a very extreme situation.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/26/2011 02:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Too little, too late. Always fighting the last war...
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2011 6:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Should the police have anti-aircraft capabilities?

Probably best left to the military to counter major terrorism.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2011 6:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Even during 911 they would not have shot down the second aircraft. They did not have the situational awareness of exactly what was going on in the short time between strikes. They only real use would be in a known strike and DOD would be in front of it. NYC counter terrorism unit is a solid unit, but shooting down a Plane is the last war. Their nuclear detection and hazmat is where they need to go as well as imbedding into the local Muslim community.
I was in NYC this weekend and walked around the WTC. Then we went uptown to Times square and ran into a Muslim parade and they were talking of how peaceful Islam is. Unbelievable! I am certain they should have left the WTC a smoking hole as a testament to just how peaceful Islam really is......
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/26/2011 9:28 Comments || Top||

#4  The NYPD probably has a phone number that will get a rapid response from Air Force, Air National Guard, Navy, or whatever.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/26/2011 10:26 Comments || Top||

#5  IRC US fighters were not carrying weapons on 9/11.
The only option they had for several hours was to ram any hijacked aircraft.

After 9/11, USAF had armed fighters over several US cities, but has now gone back to pre-9/11 procedures. In that context, NYPD is on its own.

One problem with a suicide plane (which the USN discovered in WWII) is that once it gets close in, it's not enough to shoot it down. You have to stop it in its tracks. This requires a very large warhead (and a larger missle). A stinger is not going to cut it.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 09/26/2011 11:38 Comments || Top||

#6  There is something wrong with this. I assume they have a MANPAD of some sort.

If the NYPD shoots down a large airliner over NYC with a MPAD weapon, which are typically engaged at or below 2500 meters AGL, the airliner causes a fair amount of destruction hitting the ground in a dense urban terrain, yes? A heat seeker would hit the engine shooting the aircraft down. Therefore a large airline it would leave much of the air frame intact including any centre fuel tanks and fuel in the unaffected wing's tanks. The airframe and remaining large aircraft parts would then impact buildings in the impact zone at random. In addition the hit-side engine may detach the wing or explode the wing and fuel and rain flaming debris over a large area. If it does not detach then the target aircraft could yet be flown into the nearest large building in its path.

Am I the only person to think this through to the end? Have they done the maths to determine that a shootdown would be dramatically less likely to kill and injure as many people as a deliberate impact could? This is a brutal calculus of human lives.

Interception should be done at a distance. The Battle of Britain proved this long ago.
Posted by: The Other Beldar || 09/26/2011 13:22 Comments || Top||

#7  The ongoing militarization of police with SWAT and counter terrorism as an excuse is distressing to say the least.

If you buy it you want to use it and I don't trust regular gov't with that much force. All you have to do is look at the "mistaken" drug raids as to what can and does go wrong.

Ooops we shot down a plane by mistake but we have immunity ain't gonna cut it.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/26/2011 14:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Have they done the maths to determine that a shootdown would be dramatically less likely to kill and injure as many people as a deliberate impact could? Either of the planes that hit the World Trade Center would most likely have caused far less damage if they had been shot down, even if over a populated area.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/26/2011 14:43 Comments || Top||

#9  we shot down a plane by mistake but we have immunity ain't gonna cut it Similar rationales have worked pretty well in instances of police misconduct.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/26/2011 14:44 Comments || Top||

#10  AH,

Do you really believe this?
Either of the planes that hit the World Trade Center would most likely have caused far less damage if they had been shot down, even if over a populated area.

Do you a stinger wouldn't stop a plane so one of the WTC planes would have still connected even if they could have gotten it in the first place. What happens to the missles they fire that miss the target, especially if they are big enough to destroy a jumbo jet? And where are these missles staged; NJ, Long Island, Westchester?

No, the police don't have a hope in hell of doing anti-aircraft defence correctly and the fall out would be horrendous.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/26/2011 15:49 Comments || Top||

#11  First off, the warhead on a Stinger is small in comparison most missiles in use: it just has to hit the jet engine and spray its cutting jet into that. The disintegrating turbine does the rest. And Stingers are easily mounted on helicopters and light planes, of which the NYPD has several. Stingers also can be set to detonate if they miss the target and travel a set distance. Beside which, a helicopter with a door-mounted light machine gun or a plane with a similar setup can take out the cockpit or the engines on an airliner.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/26/2011 18:21 Comments || Top||

#12  Whoa, BATMAN = THE DARK KNIGHT HAS PATRIOTS ADS!?

Who knew?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2011 19:27 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Soon To Be More Dead Southeast Asians
A growing number of Muslims in southeast Asia are giving up on western style medicine as "un-Islamic", in favor of al-Tibb al-Nawabi, or "Medicine of the Prophet", a loosely defined discipline based on the Quran and other Islamic texts and traditional remedies.

Originally popular only among fundamentalists, it is now extending into the mainstream, as a way for more moderate Muslims to demonstrate their faith, and pay Muslims for health care instead of western companies.

One such traditional hospital stresses "holistic" diagnoses, refrains from giving prognoses, as "It is in the hands of Allah". One such patient was using herbs and multiple exorcisms to rid herself of an ovarian cyst.

Others experience blood-letting, and other medical practices that were superior to their European equivalents in medieval times.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/26/2011 08:59 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm glad they think our medicine is "Anti Islamic", I think the world would be a better place Post-Islamic.

This belief will speed that day along, go ahead amd die "Richously" see if I care.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/26/2011 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Love that little bit at the end of the exerpt "and other medical practices that were superior to their European equivalents in the medieval times."

Of course, medieval times, it always comes back to medieval times with some folk. By all means, give it a try. Skip those innoculations and by all means please avoid travel upon the devils airplanes.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/26/2011 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  More Darwinism in action, I see.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/26/2011 10:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe we can gift them some blankets or something...
Posted by: Secret Asian Man (New Delhi) || 09/26/2011 11:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Muslim Science with Key to the Koran.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/26/2011 11:13 Comments || Top||

#6  It's gonna be one more reason to keep them out of Western nations if they start developing communicable diseases that could have been prevented by simple inoculations or antibiotics. Do NOT let them in.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/26/2011 16:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Just in time for another outbreak of the Black Death, the Muslims stop using Western medicine. The Black Death has minor outbreaks all of the time in the India/Pakistan/Afghanistan region but Western medicine and practices keep down to a few hundred cases a year in isolated areas. This attitude will guarantee its spread in many Muslim areas and eliminate many of the problems coming from there.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/26/2011 18:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Bring out your dead!
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/26/2011 18:38 Comments || Top||

#9  The Jihad that Time + US-West, UNO forgot.

BUT NOT FOR LONG???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2011 19:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Islamic medicine is not that much different from the global warming cult. The former deals with the individual and humours and the latter with Ghia and the elements.
The hot/dry of the blood was the major concern and the treatment was blood letting to reduce its influence. Excessive blood-letting very often resulted in death. If left alone the body would have healed naturally. CO2 has assumed the status of blood in the warmist dogma and must be reduced by constant taxation so that the alternatives can take the place of CO2.
As in the case of blood-letting excessive taxation will usually result in the death of the economy.
Also like the Islamic dogma, warmist dogma is very heavy on diagnosis but like the Marxist Dogma, not so good at prognosis.
At least the Islamists accept their limitation and confine themselves to "It is in the hands of Allah" The warmists call for more and more subsidisation and taxation. Maybe they should learn from the Islamists and just intone "It's in the hands of Ghia"
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2011 20:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Blood letting is still practiced in the west and works. I have a genetic condition where I retain too much iron - it will poison your liver, kidneys and heart. Hemochromotosis (iron overload)is common with people of Irish or Scots desent. Developed as a defense mechanisim against the crappy iron poor soil. Four times a year I have to have a pint and half of blood withdrawn so my body will use the the extra iron to make new blood cells. Sucks but you deal with the genes you get. Nobody knew what was killing off my male ansesters in their 40 and 50's unitl modern medicince figured it out.
Posted by: retired LEO || 09/26/2011 22:14 Comments || Top||



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