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Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/14/2013 11:20 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What was to be expected with theives.

Besoeker suggested EBT weekly 'purchase' shopping list - good for 6 months, then no more for 5 years:

1 lb koffee or tee
1 lb sugar
1 box powdered milk
1 box oatmeal
1 dozen eggs (any size)
1 loaf of bread
1/4 lb package of cheese
3 packages navy beans
2 lb chicken (white or dark meat)
1 lb ground beef
1 can of Spam
2 bars Ivory soap
1 small box laundry detergent


Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2013 12:31 Comments || Top||

#2  You know, Besoeker, if a list something like that was all EBT was good for I might be willing to let it run open-ended rather than a flat 6 months. Add onions & potatoes, a roll of generic TP, and some kind of plant-generated green stuff (I understand the body needs it.) Substitute other varieties of dried peas or beans for the navy beans, maybe some kind of sausage for the beef or other meat. Get their choices back to what people who are using MY money ought to be buying - not convenience food and junk food.
It always irritated me when I was young and poor (the two should generally corellate) to be checking out & paying cash for my generic corn flakes and plain groud beef, while the person in front of me was using food stamps for ribeyes and buying beer with cash.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/14/2013 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Unlimited cabbage and potatoes.
It can get ugly at the end of the month.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/14/2013 16:11 Comments || Top||

#4  What? No marijuana? No beer? No wine? No vodka? No cigarettes?

You meanie! I want my Oreos!!!
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/14/2013 17:30 Comments || Top||

#5  At one time before food stamps and EBT there was commodities. You go to a place and they give you a ration of food. Cheese, Milk, *powdered eggs*, grains, lots of beans, etc... This was way back when I was a kid.

Welfare and Food Stamps are as addictive as heroin and crack.

Sometimes I think it might be better to go back to that sort of system. Open up a COSTCO sized center in the inner city and make them come and get their commodities.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/14/2013 17:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Ironically Obama wants the Debt Ceiling removed. The American shelves will be emptied in a few years if that ever happens.
Posted by: airandee || 10/14/2013 21:52 Comments || Top||

#7  Pish posh. That only happens in places where socialism is imposed by stupid, power-hungry dictators.

Oh. Wait.
Posted by: RandomJD || 10/14/2013 22:48 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Bashir in Saudi Arabia for Hajj
[An Nahar] Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir
Head of the National Congress Party. He came to power in 1989 when he, as a brigadier in the Sudanese army, led a group of officers in a bloodless military coup that ousted the government of Prime Minister Sadiq al-Mahdi and eventually appointed himself president-for-life. He has fallen out with his Islamic mentor, Hasan al-Turabi, tried to impose shariah on the Christian and animist south, resulting in its secessesion, and attempted to Arabize Darfur by unleashing the barbaric Janjaweed on it. Sudan's potential prosperity has been pissed away in warfare that has left as many as 400,000 people dead and 2.5 million displaced. Omar has been indicted for genocide by the International Criminal Court but nothing is expected to come of it.
has arrived in Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
to perform the hajj with other Mohammedan pilgrims, official media said Sunday, after dozens died in his country during recent protests.

Bashir "arrives in Jeddah to perform hajj," the state SUNA news agency reported.

About two million Mohammedans, a majority of them foreigners, poured out of the holy city of Mecca on Sunday to begin the annual hajj, one of the five pillars of Islam that every capable Mohammedan must perform at least once.

Bashir's September 23 cut in fuel subsidies sent thousands of people, many of them Khartoum-area poor, onto the streets to protest as petrol prices rose more than 60 percent.

The demonstrations and their Arab Spring-inspired calls for the downfall of the regime were the worst urban unrest of Bashir's 24-year rule.

Amnesia Amnesty International says security forces are believed to have killed more than 200 protesters, many of whom were shot in the head or chest.

Authorities have reported 60 to 70 deaths, and say they had to intervene when crowds turned violent, attacking petrol stations and police.

Several hundreds people were initially enjugged
Youse'll never take me alive coppers!... [BANG!]... Ow!... I quit!
and the government said last week that about 200 were still being held to face trial.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  Perhaps he's also looking at real estate.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/14/2013 11:15 Comments || Top||

#2  the Idi Amin plan?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2013 14:40 Comments || Top||

#3  There are certain people in this world that I would not shed a tear were they to have hyper-velocity cranial intrusion from small metal objects. This is one. Sad thing is there are many just like him who are just as likely as not to be the reason for the intrusion.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/14/2013 15:42 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Tripoli's zoo turned into migrant processing center
There are so many migrants in Libya wanting to make the dangerous journey to Europe that the Tripoli zoo has been turned into a processing center for them. With the country's 22 refugee centers overwhelmed, the zoo – closed since the 2011 uprising – is being used to handle those picked up on the streets. More than 50 people are brought there daily.

Said Ben Suleiman, deputy commander at the detention center said, "The numbers arriving here are changing in an unbelievable way. We deport ten and we find hundreds coming back."

People smugglers stay one step ahead of the authorities. As police have stepped up their ability to catch smuggling gangs, so the smugglers have developed a new and dangerous way to avoid capture.

Suleiman said, "Traffickers make sure they're nowhere near the migrants when the boats arrive to pick them up. What they do, they buy a cheap boat, then they give one of the migrants the keys, so the captain is chosen from among them. It means they go to sea with no training."

He thinks this practice may have led to the Lampedusa boat disaster. However, he does not expect the disaster to deter would-be migrants. He said, "These guys don't care, all they are thinking is get to Europe."

Many arrive in Tripoli unable to afford the journey. For those facing deportation it is hard to know what to feel: pity that all that hard travel has come to nothing, or relief they won't be attempting the perilous journey north.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


One dead after military plane crashes in southern Egypt
One civilian on the ground was killed and three injured when a military plane crashed in the southern Egyptian city of Luxor on Sunday, medical sources said, dpa reported.
It's a MiG-21. Weren't they paying attention to the Indian Air Force?
The aircraft, which was being used in a training exercise, crashed due to a technical failure, army spokesman Colonel Ahmed Ali said. He gave no details of casualties and said the situation was being monitored.

Witnesses said the crew parachuted from the plane before it hit the ground. Some houses near the crash site caught fire, they added.

Luxor Security Director Mostafa Bakr told al-Ahram newspaper that the Russian made MiG-21 plane exploded in the air and crashed into agricultural areas and houses.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Argentine president Cristina Kirchner survives bonk on the head
The link is in Spanish. She got hit on the head in mid August, but was only admitted to the hospital last week after complaining about headaches. They just cut her loose with admonishments about all the things to be done to recover, no air travel, relaxed schedule, etc.

Since going to the hospital, vice president Amado Boudou has been running things. Her hospital stay comes during the midterm elections campaigns close to the end of the month.

Can't help. What a shame.

This was all done without any public announcements.

English translation of article here
-- BP.
Posted by: badanov || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Link goes to a Spanish website.

No por habla espanol.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/14/2013 0:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Badanov told you it was in Spanish, RJ. And provided a summation in English for those of us without Spanish fluency.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/14/2013 6:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Added link to English translation.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/14/2013 7:12 Comments || Top||

#4  need an Esperanto translation, Jim?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2013 7:40 Comments || Top||

#5  I can only write the news. I can't make you read it.
Posted by: badanov || 10/14/2013 11:29 Comments || Top||

#6  need an Esperanto translation, Jim?

Could we have that in JoeSpeak? I've become pretty fluent.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/14/2013 13:13 Comments || Top||

#7  A hematoma, eh? I'd seen previous news blurbs talking about a brain tumor. Gawd, I hate journalists.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/14/2013 13:20 Comments || Top||

#8  You're a n00b SteveS (if that's you're real name) the proper usage is:

I speak JOE > most SINO = WESTPAC types.

The heart of JOE are the key operators, <,>,= , PennState and Madonna. There is some thought the entire program was written in FRED as an exercise for the Penn State computer science class of 1981, but this is unproven.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/14/2013 16:22 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Thousands Riot in Russia over Migrant-Blamed Murder
[An Nahar] Thousands rioted Sunday in Moscow, bashing in the doors and windows of a shopping center and beating up security guards in a nationalist protest sparked by a murder blamed on a migrant.

The crowd, chanting "Russia for Russians", also beat down the doors of a nearby vegetable warehouse where many immigrants were working, an Agence La Belle France Presse photographer reported.

The rioters were mostly young and included extreme nationalists, witnesses quoted by the radio station Echo of Moscow said.

They threw bottles at special forces, who had arrived in 10 buses to quell the riot, detaining around 200, according to police.

The riot in Moscow's southern Biryulyovo district broke out over the killing Thursday of a 25-year-old local man who was stabbed to death as his fiancee watched.

The murderer expeditiously departed at a goodly pace but was caught on surveillance cameras that suggested he could have been from Central Asia or the Caucasus.

"Every measure will be taken to stop the criminal... the best Sherlocks have been assigned to the case," district police chief Alexandre Polovinko said at the scene of the protest.

Moscow police said they had opened a "hooliganism" inquiry into the rioting.

In recent years, hundreds of thousands of migrants have come to Russia from impoverished, Moslem-majority states of the former Soviet Union such as Tajikistan, often working as street cleaners or on construction sites.

They frequently endure poor labor and living conditions and are increasingly regarded with disdain by many Muscovites.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
India temple stampede in Madhya Pradesh 'kills 89'
[BBC.CO.UK] Some 89 pilgrims, mostly women and kiddies, have been killed in a stampede at a Hindu festival in central India, local officials have said.

Many were crushed after panic broke out on a bridge near the Ratangarh temple in Madhya Pradesh state. Others died when they jumped from the bridge.

Officials said the stampede may have been sparked by a rumour that the bridge was about to collapse.

Hundreds of thousands had gathered near the town of Datia for the festival.

Local devotee Atul Chaudhary, who survived the crush, told BBC Hindi there had been a couple of thousand people on the bridge.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Officials said the stampede may have been sparked by a rumour that the bridge was about to collapse

Bah! If I had a nickel for everytime someone worried about my work....
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2013 14:44 Comments || Top||

#2  I still wish they would call them something other than Ribbon Bridges tho. How about crazy strong crossing structure?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/14/2013 16:24 Comments || Top||


US, India eye joint efforts against extremist funding
[Dawn] The United States and India agreed on Sunday to step up cooperation to prevent the financing of violent bad boy movements linked to Pakistain, officials said.

In annual talks between top economic officials, India and the United States spoke of "expanding cooperation on countering illicit financing, including targeting the financial networks and fund-raising activities of terrorist organizations," Indian Economic Affairs Secretary Arvind Mayaram said.

Mayaram said in a statement that efforts would target groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba
...the Army of the Pure, an Ahl-e-Hadith terror organization founded by Hafiz Saeed. LeT masquerades behind the Jamaat-ud-Dawa facade within Pakistain and periodically blows things up and kills people in India. Despite the fact that it is banned, always an interesting concept in Pakistain, the organization remains an blatant tool and perhaps an arm of the ISI...
and the affiliated Jamaat-ud-Dawa
...the front organization of Lashkar-e-Taiba...
, which Sherlocks blame for the 2008 siege of Mumbai that killed 166 people.

The statement did not provide more details on how the two sides would expand cooperation. India has been seeking to pressure the group which operates virtually in the open in Pakistain.

Mayaram also mentioned action against another Pakistain-linked movement, the Haqqani network. The group, blamed for attacks on the Indian embassy and US forces in Afghanistan, was designated last year as a terrorist group by the United States.

The talks, in Washington following annual IMF-World Bank meetings, involved US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, along with their Indian counterparts Finance Minister P. Chidambaram and Reserve Bank of India Governor Raghuram Rajan.

The two countries agreed to keep working on a bilateral investment treaty, which President Barack Obama
I am the change that you seek...
and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh have supported as a way to boost trade.

US companies have increasingly criticized India on trade issues including the developing economy's support of generic drugs, which advocates say are affordable for the world's poor but which Western businesses say violate patents.

The two sides, who also discussed the fiscal crisis in the United States, called for "sound macroeconomic policies, structural reforms and strong prudential frameworks" to support economic growth and market stability, Mayaram said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Culture Wars
Man-Made Climate Change May Poison Your Fish!
In a lab experiment, researchers adjusted temperatures in tanks, tainted the killifish's food with traces of methylmercury and watched as the fish stored high concentrations of the metal in their tissue.
So they fed the fish mercury and the concentrations went up? This is science?
In a field experiment in nearby salt pools, they observed as killifish in warmer pools ate their natural food and stored metal in even higher concentrations, like some toxic condiment for larger fish that would later prey on them.
I wonder what happens if you feed them mercury in cooler pools?
The observation was part of a study showing how killifish at the bottom of the food chain will probably absorb higher levels of methylmercury in an era of global warming and pass it on to larger predator fish, such as the tuna stacked in shiny little cans in the cupboards of Americans and other people the world over.
If the oceans keep warming the way they are supposed to, and we keep force-feeding the little killifish mercury. I gotta go take a nap.
What about the climate temperature pause, guys, and the Atlantic multi-decadal oscillation, and warmer waters leading to more thunderstorms transferring heat to radiate into space, and all the other newly discovered factors which are leading some to think that this whole climate thingy is much more complicated and cyclical and, y'know, not conforming to current models and stuff? Honestly, you'd think researchers would read the skeptic sites just to know what kinds of questions will be asked so they could collect data to answer them definitively.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/14/2013 07:05 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Might be simpler to just list the terrible things AGW won't cause.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/14/2013 14:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Might be simpler to just list the terrible things AGW won't cause.

The one thing it doesn't appear to be causing at the moment is global warming.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/14/2013 16:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I fed cyprinodontiform fish
On a methylmercurious dish.
Since massaging the data
Made me mad as a hatter,
My conclusions are somewhat suspish.

Study's kinda Dr. Obvious but who cares? The teeming tropical multitudes will easily be fed on delicious, wholesome tilapia farmed in pristine meltponds across the erstwhile tundra belt. And for a tasty treat for the elite that can't be beat, that's neat and reet but sure ain't petite, I'm talking about mmm, mmm, mammoth meat. Yassuh! Put on your best togs, head down to the bogs and make like hogs with the dogs. It's going fast and it ain't gonna last. After that it's all bugs and blue-green algae

More orange stuff:
Nemo
Yams
CheeWees
MONARCH BUTTERFLY!
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/14/2013 17:17 Comments || Top||

#4  So-o-o IIUC, IOW humanity can't build "floating" cities, let alone "underwater" cities, to escape GWCC because it will poison the fishies + food chain.

Time to eat the Bugs, or more accurately the BUG-ZILLAS whom will be hunting us for food just we will be hunting them for same???

* TOPIX > GLOBAL FOOD CRISIS: SEVEN INSECTS WE [Humanity] WILL BE EATING IN THE FUTURE.

["10,000 BC" MOVIE = SABRE-TOOTH FELINE STALKING, KILLING SEXY SLINKY CAVE-BABE here].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/14/2013 19:44 Comments || Top||



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Mon 2013-10-14
  Key Syria opposition group refuses Geneva peace talks
Sun 2013-10-13
  Tunisian Forces Clash with Jihadists
Sat 2013-10-12
  US troops capture a senior Pakistan Taliban leader in Afghanistan
Fri 2013-10-11
  Libya PM 'Freed' after Several Hours Held by Militia, Calls for Calm
Thu 2013-10-10
  Libyan Prime Minister Zeidan kidnapped by gunmen
Wed 2013-10-09
  Egypt Strips Muslim Brotherhood of NGO Status
Tue 2013-10-08
  Egypt: Huge Explosion Hits Security HQ In Sinai
Mon 2013-10-07
  SEAL Strike on Shaboob Big Turban Fails in Somalia
Sun 2013-10-06
  Abu Anas al-Libi snatched
Sat 2013-10-05
  Boko Haram: 186 killed, 15 arrested as Military raids insurgents' camp in Yobe
Fri 2013-10-04
  Belgium Extradites Nisar Trabelsi to U.S.
Thu 2013-10-03
  Iranian cyber warfare commander shot dead in suspected assassination
Wed 2013-10-02
  Iraq Executes 23 People in Two Days
Tue 2013-10-01
  Drone strike in North Waziristan kills two, injures one
Mon 2013-09-30
  US drone kills three in Pakistan


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