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Saleh Authorizes his party to Conduct Negotiations with Opposition
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Britain
I'd say The Mail got it right this time.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/31/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thugs.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/31/2011 10:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Lord of Flies and A Clockwork Orange came a little late. Thugs.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/31/2011 11:00 Comments || Top||

#3  feral children - a perfectly accurate description.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/31/2011 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  You're talking about liberals, right?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/31/2011 13:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Its a Dependency Nation nested in a Universe of Entitlement within a Constellation of Socialism.
Posted by: Jack is Back!` || 08/31/2011 14:16 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
US-Trained Assassin Teams Now Deployed in Drug War
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/31/2011 00:53 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow.

US sponsored death squads, the "El Salvador option".

Sounds like it's straight out of a liberal's playbook. Just like Wikileaks.

Some of the the smaller groups named in the article are in fact regional groups of alliances between the Gulf Cartel and the Sinaloa Cartel against Los Zetas, none of the active before September of 2010. All the groups allied with the Sinaloa Cartel are prolly meant to act as placeholders while the Sinaloa Cartel shifts its transport operations to the eastern coast of Mexico in alliance with the Gulf Cartel.

And the assassination of Arturo Beltran-Leyva, if this was CIA sponsored damn near got a US linked Mexican general killed during the operation.

Mexican press says that Beltran-Leyva's security chief, Edgard Valdez Villareal, prolly dropped a dime on him. Granted, not quite as storied as US backed death squads.
Posted by: badanov || 08/31/2011 3:50 Comments || Top||

#2  New Gov. Zetas fighting the Zetas...Sinaloa gang seem more and more to be sponsored by the government of Mexico...Their assassination team got caught in an ambush last spring and 300 got wiped out...immediately Mexican Marines jumped in to clean and hide, seizing all witnesses cameras,
but still a few picture emerged...It'll be fun
if the Zetas win the "Election"...PAN = Sinaloa, PRI = Zetas!!!
Posted by: hotspur666 || 08/31/2011 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  See also SAME > ATF'S "FAST-N-FURIOUS" SEEMS MIXED WID SHADES FROM THE IRAN-CONTRA SCANDAL.

*** cough *** cough **** cough **** ....

D *** NGED TASTY MCDONALD'S MCDOUBLES.

WE WERE HIRED BY THE ATF = FED JUST TODAY, WEREN'T WE???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/31/2011 19:43 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Romney's election batting average is .278
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 08/31/2011 13:13 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Couldn't beat McCain and then McCain couldn't beat O'Bummer in 2008. Of course, after four years of O'Bummer the electorate may well be grasping at straws. So Romney could get lucky...if he can beat Perry, Bachman, Paul, etc.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 08/31/2011 17:55 Comments || Top||

#2  There is a great deal more to this article than just Mittens' horrible election track record. Read it all.
Posted by: Mad Eye Glash2681 || 08/31/2011 23:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
WaPo: Four takes on Petraeus
Posted by: ryuge || 08/31/2011 11:55 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Strongman Syndrome
[Dawn] Pak politics has always been a messy business, it isn't pretty and it usually involves angry Pak men with an inferiority complex. But it is the public discussion which is the heart and soul of any democracy -- it is what the people think that truly tells us about the nature and health of a nation's 'civil soul'. Today as we look at the tragic situation in Bloody Karachi an attitude has come to the fore: The 'Strongman Syndrome'.

To sort out the bloodbath in Bloody Karachi some would have us believe that more spilling of blood is necessary by calling in the Army. A popular call has been one of mass execution of politicians by the Army and then a messianic ushering in of a glorious leader who can quash any sort of dissent. First these pleas have to be put into context -- this type of thinking comes from people who have been driven to desperation. Their pleas are a symptom of a failed democracy -- they cannot be blamed. Mass executions though an example of 'swift justice' (I use the term loosely) is never a long term solution.

'We need a strong man' is a common plea by ordinary Paks and we should be sympathetic to this but recognise that this is no solution. The answer to any political crisis is never a 'strongman' but rather is more democracy -- real democracy in fact where parties have internal elections, where people don't pay attention to your surname but your policies, where politicians have to face the public in town-hall style meetings and where the rule of law is strengthened. A democracy where people do not hide behind their ethnicity or faith but answer for their actions and speech directly.

I understand the call for a 'strongman' -- it is only natural when jungle law is the norm in a city like Bloody Karachi. But it is a misplaced request -- the rule of law has to be strengthened. Justice cannot be trusted in the hands of men it has to be enshrined in fixed laws that provide proper recourse and accountability. The law so to speak is what brings about equilibrium and reconciliation between the weak and the strong. The law is what mediates conflict and provides consensus and agreement. It is the law that has been shattered in Bloody Karachi and that is what has to be restored.

Rule of law is one of the sacred pillars of any modern liberal democracy -- there is a reason why we must have a system of governance where there are checks and balances -- it is so that we can eliminate the need for a ''strong man''. No one is an angel and to trust mere man to deliver the deeds of saints is foolhardy.

The 'strongman syndrome' is an insidious threat to Pakistain's already fragile if not dysfunctional quasi democratic system. It is what paves the way for autocrats and ensures their survival. The 'strongman syndrome' is the glue for the social contract between a dictator and his peoples -- it is a deadly rot that crushes the democratic spirit. Bloody Karachi's deliverance (in whatever form it will come) will only come about with more democracy and more dialogue -- it will only come about when political parties are held to account and the rule of law established.

Our political conscience is still shaped by the experience of the Mughals and their benevolent and pious autocracies in the name of faith, the notion of a 'Redeemer' a quasi-messianic complex that will deliver the people to a state of bliss and salvation.

The reasons why in Pakistain the democratic experiment has never really taken off are many but surely one of them is the 'strongman culture'. We wait patiently for a saviour who will deliver the solutions to our problems, instead of exercising our own rational autonomy and critical reason collectively in the public sphere in active deliberation. A nation cannot be uplifted on the will of one person.

This dissonance in political psychology while stating in a benign manner allegiance to democratic principles, whilst fervently waiting for a modern day Saladin or Mughal emperor (the Saladin complex) is endemic in the electorate, reflected in the spurt of new radical movements. Paradoxically, this utopian belief fosters a numbing fatalism -- individual conscience has been relegated as useless daydreaming.

However,
we can't all be heroes. Somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by...
utopianism more often than not is a corollary of fanaticism and extremism and is emptied of the reservoirs of rational analysis, emphasising passion and emotion at the cost of reason. What is happening in Bloody Karachi is an example of groups wishing to establish an ethnic utopia -- a paradise where only people who are the 'same' have a right to life.

Underlying Bloody Karachi's cancer of violence is a social culture -- a culture that has been shaped by schools, governments, public personalities, religious leaders and politicians and that is a culture of intolerance. Laws can prevent violence but in the long run it is our national culture that will be the best defence against future tragedies. You can make laws of course but if the soil is barren then how do you expect roses of peace to bloom?

In the end, this process is never driven by a 'strong man' -- it is driven by men and women of a strong conscience.
Posted by: Fred || 08/31/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  "Bloody Karachi's cancer of violence"
What is it different from ANY other muslim culture?

It is based on the slavish following of teachings from a pedophile(six year old Aisha), a thief, a genocidal assassin(He beheaded 1000 himself one day) that even copulated with a dead wife!
The Base of Islam is the Razziah, or pillage, rape and torture of defenseless civilians with the promise in case of death of eternal drunkenness and perpetual raping of little children.

Then is there any wonder that all muslims are a billion degenerate perverts!
Posted by: hotspur666 || 08/31/2011 14:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Then is there any wonder that all muslims are a billion degenerate perverts!

Not all, hotspur666. It's bad enough that it's considerably more than would be otherwise-- to need to paint all with too broad a brush.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/31/2011 16:09 Comments || Top||

#3  no need -- PIMF!!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/31/2011 16:20 Comments || Top||

#4  TW, the exceptions are the non-observant Mohammedans as far as I can see; and yes, there are a fair number of them, but the faithful...?
Posted by: AlanC || 08/31/2011 17:56 Comments || Top||

#5  There are moderate, practicing Muslims, Alan. Not that the Islamicists want that publicized much.
Posted by: lotp || 08/31/2011 20:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Not that the Islamicists want that publicized much. Not that the moderates want to be publicized either, since the Islamicists consider moderate Muslims apostates & subject to the death penalty.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/31/2011 20:48 Comments || Top||



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Two weeks of WOT
Wed 2011-08-31
  Saleh Authorizes his party to Conduct Negotiations with Opposition
Tue 2011-08-30
  Qadaffy's wife, daughter, 2 sons flee to Algeria
Mon 2011-08-29
  29 dead in suicide bomb attack in Iraq mosque: Officials
Sun 2011-08-28
  Rebels claim capture of last army base in Tripoli
Sat 2011-08-27
  Al Qaeda's No. 2 , Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, Killed in Pakistan
Fri 2011-08-26
  Rebel council to take Libya's seat at Arab League
Thu 2011-08-25
  Yemeni premier back home from Riyadh
Wed 2011-08-24
  Rebels offers $1.7 million bounty for Gadhafi
Tue 2011-08-23
  Rebels Capture Gadhafi's Bab al-Aziziya Compound, House
Mon 2011-08-22
  Libyans Celebrate Takeover of Capital
Sun 2011-08-21
  Blasts, heavy gunfire rattle Tripoli
Sat 2011-08-20
  Pakistan mosque bombing kills at least 50
Fri 2011-08-19
  Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi wants to leave Power
Thu 2011-08-18
  Dozens reported hurt in 3-stage terror attack near Eilat
Wed 2011-08-17
  Libya rebels see victory by end of month


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