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Kurds repel attack near Mosul, 60 ISIS Bad Guys die
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Economy
Big socialist governments require open borders and massive immigration
[The Express - Published: Sat, Oct 11, 2008] A controversial taxpayer-funded "job centre" opened in Mali this week is just the first step towards promoting "free movement of people in Africa and the EU".

Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will "need" 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the "demographic decline" due to falling birth rates and rising death rates across Europe.

The report, by the EU statistical agency Eurostat, warns that vast numbers of migrants could be needed to meet the shortfall in two years if Europe is to have a hope of funding the pension and health needs of its growing elderly population.

It states: "Countries with low fertility rates could require a significant number of immigrants over the coming dec­ades if they want to maintain the existing number of people of working age.

"Having sufficient people of working age is vital for the economy and for tax revenue."

The report, by French MEP Francoise Castex, calls for immigrants to be given legal rights and access to social welfare provision such as benefits.

Ms Castex said: "It is urgent that member states have a calm approach to immigration. To say 'yes', we need immigration ... it €‚is not a new development, we must accept it."€‚
Appears to be long in the making and entirely self-inflicted. The current unrest is likely viewed by the ruling establishment as little more than growing pains.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/17/2015 01:58 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strange, the big socialist government required walls to keep people in 1948-1990. Those were to keep the productive agents in the harnesses. BTW, those on welfare and dependent upon government to sustain them (non-productive) don't generate much in the way of taxes.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/17/2015 5:08 Comments || Top||

#2  They do generate votes, though.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/17/2015 7:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe the OWG with its massive immigration and open borders is not such a great idea--A Donk vote recruiting scheme.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/17/2015 7:38 Comments || Top||

#4  what have the governments frittered away the taxes on? Those people paid tax while they worked. It should have been saved and invested for pensions.

If you try to prop up the elderly with immigrants all you get is a ponzi scheme + social unrest

and you need to build expensive infrastructure for all the new migrants... new hospitals, schools, roads, these things are not cheap

it is a zero-sum game, it is a stupid idea this idea of endless economic growth through immigration

old people use less resources because they are mostly happy to sit at home and watch TV then go out for the odd lawn bowls and bingo. Give them free public transport and a very low pension they will be happier than if you open the doors to millions of people who do not speak their language or share their culture
Posted by: anon1 || 11/17/2015 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  The logic only holds if you assume a large government providing lots of social programs. These are expensive and require a large tax base to support.

The leftoids think immigrants will provide this tax base, but in a democracy that's a foolish assumption. At some point large numbers of immigrants might decide that supporting aging Europeans isn't what they want to do with their spare cash.
Posted by: Iblis || 11/17/2015 11:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Blackmail.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/17/2015 13:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Totally unacceptable.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/17/2015 13:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Golly. It sounds like Bat Ye'or was right about Eurabia. (See her Wikipedia page < a href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Ye%27or>here)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2015 15:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Bat Ye'or rocks. Eurabia is painstakingly documented, more footnotes than text. I assigned it as reading in a seminar on the EU I taught several years ago, and challenged my libtard students to present evidence that her thesis is wrong.

Crickets
Posted by: RandomJD || 11/17/2015 19:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh my, RandomJD. 'Tis truthfully said the best teachers are not falsely kind. And you once described lawyers as being like wolf cubs, biting and snapping hard at one another without malice.

One hopes your students took home that lesson as well as the other.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2015 19:33 Comments || Top||

#11  *sigh* Apologies for screwing up the HTML. I must be more tired than I realized. Trying again:

... her Wikipedia page here
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2015 19:37 Comments || Top||

#12  In an era when people confuse facts with opinions, and even most scholarship is sloppy, Bat Ye'or's exposure and indictment of one of the more ominous aspects of the "European project" is damning. The Islamization of Europe did not happen by accident, developing mainly through shady back-channel deals with Arab governments. But those deals are enshrined in opaque language in obscure agreements that are accessible to the determined scholar. The combination of outrage and patience it took to research and write Eurabia is very impressive.

As for my students, well, there's only so much damage you can undo in 4 weeks. I think the more strident Europhiles at least walked away feeling less certain that Europe's future would be all gum drops and puppy dogs and rainbows.
Posted by: RandomJD || 11/17/2015 20:09 Comments || Top||


America's poorest white town: abandoned by coal, swallowed by drugs
[The Guardian] Karen Jennings patted her heavily made up face, put on a sardonic smile and said she thought she looked good after all she'd been through.

"I was an alcoholic first. I got drunk and fell in the creek and broke my back. Then I got hooked on the painkillers," the 59-year-old grandmother said.

Over the years, Jennings' back healed but her addiction to powerful opioids remained. After the prescriptions dried up, she was drawn to the underground drug trade that defines eastern Kentucky today as coal, oil and timber once did.

Jennings spoke with startling frankness about her part in a plague gripping the isolated, fading towns dotting this part of Appalachia. Frontier communities steeped in the myth of self-reliance are now blighted by addiction to opioids -- "hillbilly heroin" to those who use them. It's a dependency bound up with economic despair and financed in part by the same welfare system that is staving off economic collapse across much of eastern Kentucky. It's a crisis that crosses generations.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/17/2015 01:27 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There are more poor whites than blacks in America. However, due to their race, they don't get the 'victim' card for the power game. Springer folk don't invoke sympathy for their self inflicted choices they make in life.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/17/2015 5:11 Comments || Top||

#2  I've done a fair amount of work in coal-mining country in WV, Eastern, KY and southern Virginia. Contrary to say a Detroit, the poverty in these areas is long-standing. In Detroit, good neighborhoods often become blighted because of increasing poverty in these areas.

Recently, I had occasion to visit relatives in northwest Ohio. Traveling through small towns, I was struck by the blight in many of these small towns. Industry has moved out. Manufacturing has gone to China or just ceased. Many of these small towns are dying whereas 50-60 years ago they were economically vigorous and self-sustaining. They supported most who lived in these towns. And yes, poor whites in this country far exceed the number of poor blacks.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/17/2015 7:13 Comments || Top||

#3  NAFTA at work.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/17/2015 8:03 Comments || Top||

#4  I have read that domestic meth manufacturing is doing just fine in those almost abandoned places. Maybe some of these places are better off as ghost towns. I have a beautiful Windows 10 theme featuring Bodie, California.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/17/2015 9:23 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: regular joe || 11/17/2015 9:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Obama outlawing coal is the cause.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/17/2015 14:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama outlawing coal is part of the problem but it's hard for me to feel too sorry for people who are content to sit around drinking and taking dope all day.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/17/2015 16:07 Comments || Top||

#8  Perhaps we should start sending the High School graduates to Yale and Harvard. Now that would be diversity. Oops, wrong flavor.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T. || 11/17/2015 21:49 Comments || Top||



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