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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Stupid, but not too stupid to find a lawyer
"I was scared, and I was petrified," Ogborn said. "I didn't know what was going to happen. I didn't know if this was my last day on Earth."

This happened at McDonalds, so guess who's getting sued. Some people will do the darndest things when they have a gun in their mouth . . . .

(Click the link to read the story)
Posted by: gorb || 10/04/2007 15:58 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  according to the link, that may not have been a gun....
but one would wise up, i would imagine, when the pooleece want a strip search and then some.
but did he get fries with that?
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/04/2007 17:38 Comments || Top||

#2  That's a terrible article. It's impossible to figure out what's going on. The bullet point "It was a hoax by a manager's former boyfriend who posed as a cop" is misleading, since he wasn't the former boyfriend of the manager in question, and is not the same guy as the ex-fiance named. Here's a better but longer article.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 10/04/2007 20:45 Comments || Top||


Cops fire at dog, miss 12 times
NEW Zealand police fired their guns 12 times at a snarling rottweiler during a domestic dispute but missed every time, local media reported. Officers had already tried capsicum spray on the "large, lunging rottweiler" with no effect, the New Zealand Press Assocation said.

A 19-year-old man threw an axe, logs and bottles at police who tried to arrest him last night at Porirua, near Wellington, before setting his partner's dog on officers, Inspector John Spence said.
"Vengeance!"
After the capsicum spray failed to subdue the rottweiler, the young officers began shooting at the dog as it ran around the property, but missed.

Asked why police fired so many shots at the dog, Insp Spence said shooting at moving things in real life was different to shooting at targets at the range. "It was a small, fast moving target. I am satisfied no members of the public were put at risk," he said.

The 90-minute stand-off ended when police set three of their own dogs on the man, inflicting leg wounds that needed surgery. The rottweiler was returned to its owner and would not be put down, police said.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 10:43 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Reminds me of the incident in Knoxville where police fired 28 times at a guy pointing what turned out to be a pellet gun at them. I think it was 4 officers, total of 28 rounds expended. One bullet managed to graze the perp in the arm.

Sometimes I think the safest place from a cop with a gun is right in front of him. What's truly disgraceful is that this is Tenn. We expect our cops to do much better, at least when shooting things. But then, one has to realize, they are city folk.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/04/2007 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  New Findings from the FBI about Cop Attackers & Their Weapons
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 10:55 Comments || Top||

#3  I was on jury duty once, and the bailiff assigned to us, a little old grandmother with gray hair, packed a big 9 mm pistol on her hip. During a break I asked her about it, joshing of course, and she replied that she went to the range every month to practice. "I can hit what's in front of me," she said, "but if you see one of my bozo partners pull his weapon, you'd better hit the floor 'cause that's the only safe place around!"
Posted by: Steve White || 10/04/2007 11:25 Comments || Top||

#4  ROTTWEILER?

Uninjured?



Must be made of vinyl!
Posted by: BigEd || 10/04/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#5  a 12 Gauge might be a better choice for the kiwi boys
Posted by: Spinetle Poodle2846 || 10/04/2007 16:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Dirty little secret:

Most street cops are bad shots because they never PRACTICE. They only go to qualification every year and sweat it out hoping they make it.

And, even when they do practice, many just stand there and shoot 'point shoulder' rather than some type of training that might actually be useful in a gunfight.

I used to be an NRA certified Police Firearms Instructor, and I can't tell you how many weapons I saw on the range that hadn't been taken out of their holster for MONTHS! Dust, dirt, rust, leather dry rot on the holster...I saw it all.

The key is good administration. Department leadership needs to mandate recurring target training, tactical training, weapons retention and takeway, etc. on a FREQUENT basis.

Two reasons why they usually don't do it: Laziness/Apathy, and the fact that it costs more money in an era of Police budget cuts.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/04/2007 19:11 Comments || Top||

#7  2 more reasons, donuts, coffee.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/04/2007 20:50 Comments || Top||

#8  They always shoot the dog
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/04/2007 22:18 Comments || Top||


Sherry enema charges against wife dropped
CHARGES have been dropped against a Texas woman who was accused of giving her husband a sherry enema that killed him.

Tammy Jean Warner had been indicted for negligent homicide in the May 2004 death of Michael Warner, 58, but the Brazoria County District Attorney's office said today the charge was dropped a month ago due to lack of evidence.

The Houston Chronicle said Mrs Warner, 45, had been scheduled to go to court next week for a trial that had been reset six times.

At the time of Mrs Warner's indictment in 2005, police told the Chronicle the woman had given her husband two large bottles of sherry, which raised his blood alcohol level to 0.47 per cent, or nearly six times the level considered legally drunk in Texas. Mrs Warner admitted administering the enema but denied she caused the death of her husband, who was a machine shop operator.

The incident occurred at their home in Lake Jackson, near Houston. She told the newspaper her husband was addicted to enemas and often used alcohol in that manner.
Charming. IIRC, Burroughs's wild boys in "Cities of the red night" occasionally drank that way too...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 10:35 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There is trailer trash and then there is ...
Posted by: 3dc || 10/04/2007 12:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Sherry, Sherry baby
Sherry, Sherry baby

Sherry baby (Sherry baby)
Sherry can you come out tonight?
(Come,come, come out tonight)
Sherry baby (Sherry baby)
Sherry can you come out tonight?

-- Frankie Valli
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/04/2007 13:59 Comments || Top||

#3  "charge was dropped a month ago due to lack of evidence"

I don't even want to think what that evidence was (and why the toilet wasn't flushed before the cops got there)....

Eeeeewwwwwwwww.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/04/2007 15:06 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Achmed The Dead Terrorist(Ventriloquism)
Posted by: tipper || 10/04/2007 20:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...I saw this guy on CC last week - he is one sick - and FUNNY - puppy.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/04/2007 21:38 Comments || Top||


Taser a raccoon and you only make him angry
Memo to officers: Taser a raccoon and you only make him angry


Terrified, Theresa Griffin heard something coming up the stairs from the finished basement of her South Pearl Street home.

"I thought someone was coming up the stairs. It scared the heck out of me," she said.

She called Janesville police about 12:45 a.m. Wednesday.

An officer came and searched the home. No intruder. Nothing suspicious.

About 20 minutes later, Griffin headed to bed on the house's upper level.

She found a mess of blackberries smashed on her bed.

'"What the heck! Then I thought maybe my house is haunted, a poltergeist or something."

Griffin called the cops again. The officer returned and asked if Griffin had any berries in the house.

No.

Was she having problems with anyone?

Somebody in Nevada owed her money.

The officer thought the intruder might still be in the home. He was right.

A masked bandit lurked.

"As I was searching the lower section of the basement, I looked underneath a bed and came face to face with a raccoon," he reported.

He figured the raccoon puked the blackberries on the bed.

But the adventure was just beginning.

The officer called his supervisor, who brought an animal control noose and backup: two more cops.

"The ordeal eventually involved four officers and became quite a task to capture the raccoon," the officer reported.

"The Keystone Kops, that's what it was," Griffin said of the two-hour try to catch the critter.

The officers had a good attitude about their hot pursuit, Griffin said.

"They said they might need a little more training at it."

The reporting officer wrote:

"Officers learned that the Tasers do not work on raccoons. The Taser deployment on the raccoon only appeared to anger the raccoon. … This was very large raccoon, and he did run around the bedroom several times and cornered officers at one point."

In fact, the raccoon-"One officer said, 'That's a small bear,'" Griffin recalled-cornered the cops twice, charged a couple of times and knocked down three officers at once.

Eventually able to lasso the rambunctious raccoon, officers set it free outside-without charges or a court date.

Griffin has no idea how it got in.

"I'm a huge door-locker," she said. "I want to write a letter to thank those cops. They were here for quite some time."

By Mike DuPre'
mdupre@gazetteextra.com
(Published Thursday, October 4, 2007 11:51:42 AM CST)
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/04/2007 18:33 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Study: Strippers Make More in Tips When Most 'Fertile'
A new study from the University of New Mexico found that, on average, strippers make the most money in tips during the most “fertile” days of their monthly cycles, Psychology Today reports.

For their research, psychologist Geoffrey Miller and colleagues visited local gentlemen's clubs and counted tips made on lap dances.
Oh, so that's what they're calling it now. "Research."
I want to know how they counted the tips, and how they managed to convince the girls that they weren't from the IRS/county sheriff.
Posted by: Mike || 10/04/2007 14:56 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Obviously this rates further study.
Again, where did I put those federal grant forms...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/04/2007 15:11 Comments || Top||

#2  I blame bush.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/04/2007 16:01 Comments || Top||

#3  This is easy. Years ago, drug manufacturers had a hard time finding women to work on female replacement hormone assembly lines. (They couldn't hire males for that job, for obvious reasons.) But even the tiny amounts of hormone that the women would get at work would make them prettier, and so within a few months of starting to work there, they would get married and leave.

Ergo, the slight fluctuations in natural hormones among strippers is projected, either through their appearance or pheromones. And the male patrons pick up on this.

Even Playboy magazine was aware of this, years ago. They suggested that their major models get "a little bit pregnant" for the photo shoot, so they would look their best, their hormones really jumping. Then afterwards, they could do what they wanted about the pregnancy.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/04/2007 16:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Thanks for the update on hormone research on strippers. I will tuck this information away. Just maybe, someday, it will become useful.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/04/2007 17:07 Comments || Top||

#5  They suggested that their major models get "a little bit pregnant" for the photo shoot, so they would look their best, their hormones really jumping.

In the first weeks/months of pregnancy, boobies become bigger/firmer/nicer.
Posted by: JFM || 10/04/2007 17:26 Comments || Top||

#6  It is not halal to have a lap dance with unclean wimin.
Posted by: Chetah Bin Dar || 10/04/2007 17:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Seattle pooleece went on a strip club sting operation to verify that the dancers kept the required distance from the patrons. part of this sting involved taxpayer money for lap dances; don't really want to know what kind of evidence they used (but a blue dress, er suit, comes to mind)
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/04/2007 17:41 Comments || Top||


Wolf joins bears to trap salmon
Paul--You ever see anything like this before?
Posted by: Dar || 10/04/2007 14:22 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I probably should have used this URL instead. There are add'l pix and video at both links regardless.
Posted by: Dar || 10/04/2007 15:46 Comments || Top||


Today's Idiot
Matthew Barrett accidently shows porn to schoolkids

A POLITICIAN in the US inadvertently projected a collection of pictures of naked women to high school students on a wall in the middle of a civics lesson.
The Ohio legislator, Matthew Barrett, was talking to the students about how a bill becomes law when he presented pornographic images instead of graphs to the class, Associated Press reported.

A police spokesman told AP that the memory stick containing the images and a computer were seized by officers and Mr Barrett was questioned about the incident.

Mr Barrett reportedly said that he heard “snickers” from some of the students when the images were displayed and that he immediately unplugged the memory stick. He told AP that the school's technology director determined the stick had a directory of nude images in addition to his presentation on civics lessons. "I have no idea where these came from," Mr Barrett said.
"Really. It's not mine. Somebody musta left it here. By mistake..."
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 10:25 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Note that the article does not report on his political affiliation (Democrat).
Posted by: DoDo || 10/04/2007 13:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Perhaps he was recruiting interns?
Posted by: ed || 10/04/2007 13:47 Comments || Top||

#3  The Cleveland TV stations were reporting late last night that Barrett released a statement where he said (IIRC) that one of his kids had downloaded the pr0n and "this is an internal family matter."

I hope that "internal family matter" means "long father-and-son conversation in the woodshed" and not "Gee, Junior, what's the address of that site again?"
Posted by: Mike || 10/04/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||


A tea party with Lord Mark Malloch-Brown
In the mood for some queasiness?
Posted by: ryuge || 10/04/2007 07:38 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lord Malloch-Brown lectured on "Making Private Capital Work for the Poor" to some 500 students and faculty.

alternately titled: "I am George Soros's Whore"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/04/2007 7:41 Comments || Top||


Today in History
Sputnik 1 (Russian: "Спутник-1", "Satellite-1", or literally "Co-traveler-1" byname ПС-1 (PS-1, i.e. "Простейший Спутник-1", or Elementary Satellite-1)) was the first artificial satellite to be put into geocentric orbit. Launched by the Soviet Union on October 4, 1957, it was the first satellite of the Sputnik program. . . .

Sputnik-1 was set in motion during the International Geophysical Year from the 5th Tyuratam range in Kazakh SSR (now Baikonur Cosmodrome). The satellite travelled at 29,000 kilometers (18,000 mi) per hour and emitted radio signals at around 20.005 and 40.002 MHz which were monitored by Amateur radio operators throughout the world. The signals continued for 22 days until the transmitter batteries ran out on October 26, 1957. Sputnik 1 burned as it fell from orbit upon reentering Earth's atmosphere, after traveling about 60 million km (37 million miles) in orbit. . . .
Posted by: Mike || 10/04/2007 06:32 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  BIP BIP BIP BIP...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 6:54 Comments || Top||

#2  More here at "SputnikMania!"
Posted by: Mike || 10/04/2007 10:44 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Men get 7000 lashes for sodomy
TWO men in Saudi Arabia have been sentenced to 7000 lashes each after being convicted of sodomy and have received their first round of punishment in public, a newspaper said today.

The men, who were not identified, were meted out an unspecified number of lashes in public in the the southwestern city of Al-Bahah on Tuesday evening, the Al-Okaz daily reported. They were then returned to prison where they are to be held until the full punishment is completed, the newspaper added, without saying how many sessions this would involve.

Homosexual acts are illegal in Saudi Arabia, which metes out strict punishment based on sharia, or Islamic law.
Posted by: tipper || 10/04/2007 07:48 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will rum be served?
Posted by: gromky || 10/04/2007 8:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Soddy is rum-less. The only brand available is the White Cane.

Usually 80 lashes in one "session"... they are as good a dead. Will probably take 3-5 times, then the body is not able to cope anymore and goes into a shock, even if there is enough time allowed for "healing".
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/04/2007 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Homosexual acts are illegal in Saudi Arabi

Illegal, yes. Non-existent, No. Gays exist in Saudi just like all the other islamic countries. The gays just don't come out of the closet.

What does sharia law say about buggering your goats? How many lashes for that?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/04/2007 9:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder how Sharia views sodomy between heterosexual couples? Had this been a women accused of this crime, I suspect the treatment would have been different. Especially if they were unmarried.
Posted by: Delphi || 10/04/2007 9:42 Comments || Top||

#5  I read about a woman whose husband asked for a divorce because she was watching a male TV newscaster alone. Yaarrrhhh. What a screwed up bogus religion. Some people will believe just about any kind of horse pucky.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/04/2007 9:48 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder how Sharia views sodomy between heterosexual couples?

IIRC, that particular topic (an uppity woman refusing anal intercourse) was the very basis of old mo's hadith about wimmen being like fields men could plow as they saw fit. Also, the various online texts I've (half) read about the psychosexual roots of islam's/the arabo-muslims' "problems" mentioned a widespread use of that particular habit between men and wimmen, either as a virginity-saving option for unmarried couples/lovers, or as a casual habit by the husbands.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 10:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Btw, half-remembering from what I had read about whipping as a corporeal punishment, 7000 lashes is basically a death penalty, according on the frequency, but someone more savvy about trauma (RB's esteemed "salmon", sic, mod, perhaps?) can correct me on that assumption.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 11:07 Comments || Top||

#8  a5089: they're very likely dead. Even at 80 lashes at a time, the cumulative trauma is likely to kill them. Likely, not certainly.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/04/2007 11:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Can't rightly say about Saudi Arabia, but in Sudan the punishment is forced marriage to the animal and to pay a dowery to the owner. That is if the pervert is caught buggering another man's goat.
Posted by: GK || 10/04/2007 11:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Unless the goat is wearing a burka, in which case its mistaken identity.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/04/2007 12:04 Comments || Top||

#11  Saudis are just trying to fullfill the masochistic fantasies of these sodomites.
Posted by: Glinemble Hatfield9662 || 10/04/2007 12:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Will it be administered by a dominatrix in leather and heels?
Posted by: ed || 10/04/2007 12:48 Comments || Top||

#13  To the other "ed"...

I thought the same thing, only she will have a full black burqua on, being that it is Saudi...
Posted by: BigEd || 10/04/2007 13:12 Comments || Top||

#14  Oh. And here I thought it was part of the Folsom Street Festival in Pelosiland!
Posted by: Brett || 10/04/2007 20:16 Comments || Top||


Britain
The Horror... the horror...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/04/2007 11:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  must not submit comments on a Muslim site.... noo...
Posted by: 3dc || 10/04/2007 12:26 Comments || Top||

#2  If someone does want to comment, they should not attack them directly, but instead put in comments like:

"The Israelis kidnap Palestinian children, then cut their throats and use the blood to water their date trees."

"The Jews wash their dates in sewer water with dead pigs and dogs in it before selling it to Muslims."

"Jew priests put curses on the dates so that Muslims who eat them will go blind and be sterile."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/04/2007 13:56 Comments || Top||

#3  That totally ignores what the Jewish computer chips will do to their Jihad networks.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/04/2007 14:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Hey, go check it out! What a coincidence, very similar comments made it onto the bottom of the thread!

Someone pass the popcorn, please.
Posted by: gorb || 10/04/2007 17:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I wonder what it's like to go through life as a friggin lunatic?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/04/2007 20:51 Comments || Top||

#6  I dunno, do the insane realize they're nuts?

Or do they think they're normal and everyone else is crazy.

( I know no insane so I can't answer.)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/04/2007 21:55 Comments || Top||


Opting out of booze sales not an option
Posted by: ryuge || 10/04/2007 09:55 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In some places, but still is an option at others. You sucked me in with the headline, ryunge! Bucking for MSM?
Posted by: Bobby || 10/04/2007 11:01 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Azerbaijan newspaper: Wahhabists signed deal with so-called Islam sufferers
Posted by: ryuge || 10/04/2007 09:45 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  islam sufferer? Is that like a horseshit whisperer?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/04/2007 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Does everyone know that a little bit of bribery could put details of Saudi bank transfers to Wahabi terrorists, in the pockets of US intelligence? My belief is that the CIA could name every terror financier on the planet, but political considerations prevent same.
Posted by: McZoid || 10/04/2007 18:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't name them---just kill a few: suicide boomers are dime a dozed, finance men are rather rarer.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/04/2007 20:55 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Two Calif. cities to vote on banning smoking in apartments
By Wendy Koch, USA TODAY

Lawmakers in two California cities are casting votes this month on unprecedented legislation that would widen a growing voluntary movement by landlords and resident associations to ban smoking inside apartments and condos.
Wednesday in Calabasas, the City Council plans to vote on expanding its anti-smoking law to bar renters from lighting up inside existing apartments. It would exempt current resident smokers until they moved but would require all new buildings with at least 15 units, including condos, to be smoke-free.

Next Tuesday, the City Council of Belmont is scheduled to cast a final vote on a similar measure that won initial approval last week. The ordinance, which applies to apartments and condos, would allow fines and evictions if neighbors complained and smokers didn't heed warnings.

The legislative push, which has triggered death threats against council members, is a controversial part of a mostly voluntary effort to prod landlords and condo associations to adopt smoke-free policies.

Key point here. I hate smoking, but there is an Ameriocan tradition that inside ones own place of residence, you should be able to do as you wish. I think these Totalitarian minded maevens of the PC left are losing sight of this, and the push for the ever encroaching nanny-state by these bastards may well to come to violence. I do not advocate any violence at all. Do not mis-understand, but it will be an outgrowth of things just like this, and the other issues like the emminent domain cases that are cropping up. It is the right of a landlord to say , "no smokers in my apartments", and advertise them as such, but they shouldn't be forced to do so. The city's local dictatorial thugs who sit on town councils have no business doing nonsense like this.

Health officials in about 30 states promote the health and economic benefits, including reduced fire risk and lower cleanup costs for multiunit housing, says Jim Bergman, director of the Smoke-Free Environments Law Project, a Michigan group funded partly by the state.

Tens of thousands of apartments and condos have gone smoke-free in the past five years, management companies and health activists say. Last month, Guardian Management began phasing in a smoke-free policy at 8,000 of its rental units, mostly in Oregon and Washington.

"We've proven the voluntary approach can work very well," Bergman says. He doesn't think legislative bans will work because of a "my home is my castle" philosophy.

"The time has come. The evils of smoking have been known for decades," says Barry Groveman, a Calabasas councilman who co-wrote the proposal.

Still, he knows he's struck a nerve. "I've gotten threats like you wouldn't believe," Groveman says.

"Fresh air should be breathed by everybody," Belmont Mayor Coralin Feierbach says. She cites a 2006 surgeon general's report that says no level of secondhand smoke is risk-free.

Critics say the bans violate civil and personal property rights. "You should be able to do as you wish in your own home," says Michon Coleman of the San Mateo County Association of Realtors.

Belmont's ordinance is "way over the top," because a smoker can be evicted simply for lighting up, says Warren Lieberman, one of two council members who oppose it.

Such criticism prompted Oakland last month to remove a ban on smoking in new apartments and condos from an ordinance that barred lighting up in public places.

Feierbach says she never intended to create a stir, but she expects other cities to follow Belmont. "We really broke ground," she says.

Posted by: BigEd || 10/04/2007 11:32 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah but just wait, just like in California, after the ban's come exemptions for 'medical marijuana". Funny how all the people pushing for that don't actually have any medical problems. Other than Terminal Stupidity.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/04/2007 11:47 Comments || Top||

#2  So will they need to use the medical marijuana as a food spice instead of smoking it?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/04/2007 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Unbelievable, this is worse than the no smoking in open areas nonsense from Northern California. I hope they clean out the city council at the next voting opportunity. Talk about an infringement on civil liberties.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/04/2007 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  And an exemption for hookah-smoking Muslims, too.
Posted by: mrp || 10/04/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#5  A ridiculous proposal of course, and just another example of government intrusion into our private lives.

However, it just makes sense to step outside to have a smoke, especially if you live with non-smokers in the apartment. And any building owner, including Apartment and Condo owners, currently have a legal right to not allow smoking in their buildings. They ALREADY have that right as owners of private property.

Here in San Antonio there are DOZENS of Apartment complexes where smoking has been banned indoors. Don't like it, don't live there, but a City ordinance is not only unnecessary, it smacks Orwellian.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/04/2007 14:04 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd start burning some seriously annoying incense. What, only ONE type of smoke is banned? Do tell...
Posted by: mojo || 10/04/2007 14:20 Comments || Top||

#7  They will be coming for booze after they get this smoking thing nailed down to their satisfaction. That's when the shit will really hit the fan. Most folks in the hills still have their family tommy guns from prohibition I think.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 10/04/2007 15:16 Comments || Top||

#8  and while they work this out, San Diego is sliding into the ocean. must be second hand fill dirt or something.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/04/2007 17:44 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Jammu and Kashmir Govt invokes Article 370 to deny help to ailing Hindu boy
JAMMU: Vipul Kaul is too ill to hold the Constitution responsible for his plight but the fact is - if the Jammu & Kashmir government officials are to be believed - the statutory provision of Article 370 is coming in the way of his treatment.

Life has turned for the worse for Vipul and his family after the state government cited Article 370 - that gives the state a special status in the Indian Union - as the reason why it won't pay for the teenager's treatment as directed by the Centre.

Afflicted with a rare disorder called crytorchism - a condition in which a male child's testicles remain undescended - Vipul has been undergoing treatment for this and other complications at AIIMS for the past six years. Then CM Farooq Abdullah had promised to bear the entire expenditure.

While the Abdullah government did pay Rs 14 lakh for the boy's treatment, after the National Conference was ousted in 2002, the Kaul family has been running from pillar to post for compensation.

"I wrote to the subsequent chief minister Mufti Mohammed Sayeed, saying we needed Rs 26 lakh more to settle all the bills," says Vipul's father Ashok Kaul.

Kaul then wrote to then President Kalam, who asked the Union Home Ministry to direct the state to help the family. A letter from the Home Ministry advising action in the matter arrived at Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad's secretariat in July this year.

"We were shocked to receive a letter from the secretary to CM Azad informing us that under Article 370, the government isn't bound to obey orders of the Union Home Ministry," says Kaul.

Former Deputy CM and now J&K Health Minister Mangat Ram Sharma said he wasn't aware of the letter. On Thursday, the state government ordered a probe into the origins of the letter.
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India 'fair price' shops attacked
Mob violence against dealers of government-licensed "fair-price shops" has spread to at least three districts in the Indian state of West Bengal.

Thousands of dealers have surrendered their licences after the protests. Angry crowds set on fire six shops on Wednesday in protest at corruption in the public food distribution system. So-called fair-price shops, commonly known as ration shops, operate under licence from the state government to sell subsidised grain to India's poor.

Police fired on a mob at Ketugram in Burdwan district on Wednesday. Locals say one villager was killed and at least three others were injured in the firing, but police have not confirmed the deaths. A district official said at least 10 rounds were fired by police as they baton-charged the protesters and discharged tear gas shells to stop them from attacking dealers of two fair-price shops. Locals in Ketugram allege that the local "fair-price" dealer has not been providing them with cheap grain for 17 months.

On Wednesday, six "fair-price shops" - two each in Bankura, Birbhum and Burdwan districts - were set on fire by angry mobs. This follows similar attacks against at least 17 dealers over the last two days in these three districts. The "fair-price shops" are the backbone of India's public distribution system. The government provides them with licences to procure grain and other essentials such as kerosene, in order to sell it to the rural and urban poor at rates which are supposed to be much cheaper than the open market.

West Bengal's poor track record on the theft of public grain is second only to that of the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, the authorities say. Protests against "fair price shops" erupted in Bankura on 15 September, when thousands of angry villagers attacked dealers in the villages of Sonamukhi and Kotalpukur. Since then, the violence has spread. The West Bengal government has now cancelled the licences of 40 dealers and sued many of them for embezzlement.

About 1,300 dealers of "fair price shops " in Bankura district have closed down their shops, saying they had no intention to continue in business as they felt "insecure". That may seriously affect the availability of food grain in the district in the same month as the big Hindu Durga Puja festival and the Muslim Eid festival. Analysts say the incidents are a source of major embarrassment for West Bengal's left-wing coalition government - in power since 1978 - which usually prides itself on the issue of food security in rural areas.
Posted by: john frum || 10/04/2007 16:42 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


Taliban set Deadline for Whiskers
A local pro-Taliban militant group has warned a businessman to cut his long whiskers within one week. The group has set a deadline and its head said that if Mr Khan tried to flee the area, they will set his home ablaze.

The man, Ameer Mohammad Khan, has at least ten inches long whiskers and he loves it. The militant group has declared that keeping long whiskers is un-Islamic and unnecessary.

According to daily Mashriq, a local Urdu newspaper from Peshawar, Ameer Mohammad Khan is a businessman of the Bara area where a group of militants called Lashkar-e-Islam is active for past few years.

The group has set a deadline and its head said that if Mr Khan tried to flee the area, they will set his home ablaze. `Those long whiskers are un-Islamic and unnecessary. So he must cut them within one week` the daily quoted Mangal Bagh, head of the militant group. This group has a rivalry with another militant group and more than four hundred people have been killed so far in their fighting.

There are many pro-Taliban local militants active in Pakistan`s tribal areas who call themselves Jihadist, Islamists and local Taliban. They have already banned music and other entertainment activities. They have their own strict Islamic rules which they impose by force.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/04/2007 09:48 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Don't laugh -- Santa Claus is next.
Posted by: Mangal Bagh || 10/04/2007 11:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "Gee, how long am I allowed to grow my pubic hair, guys? I mean, as long as we're setting rules."
Posted by: mojo || 10/04/2007 15:30 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Putting Kids in their place
A propos to yesterday's discussion, the You Tube at the link has a recitation of maternal child-rearing wisdom.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:



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