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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Alkyduh Strykes
An underground explosion blew the roof off a public toilet on Wednesday in the central English city of Stoke-on-Trent. "Fortunately nobody was inside at the time, but it is right in the city center, near our night clubs and cultural quarter," said Terry James, spokesman for the city council. He said the explosion, which happened about 4 a.m., had been caused by a high voltage power cable running beneath the "superloo," an automated toilet.
Likely story. We all know it was ’kyduh. It has their smell all over it.
The electricity supplier was investigating the incident, James said.
Uh-huh.
Posted by: Zpaz || 02/05/2004 2:40:39 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We can't blame this on Fat Bastard then?
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 14:55 Comments || Top||

#2  You cold hearted bastards, this was clearly a case of TF (terminal flatulence) and yet you jest at a mans/womans weakness. Balestinians aren't the only walking bombs.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Ghandi's Revenge! They need to lay off the curry in Stoke-on-Trent.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#4  One less loo to skip to, and we are all the poorer for it.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 02/05/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL RM where did that come from?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd better quit lighting my farts in the can, man. Budweiser might make it into a commercial and me into a horse's ass!
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Shipman: It's the cold medicine ; ]
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 02/05/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Is AQ responsible for the exploding manhole covers in Georgetown, Washington, DC too?
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 02/05/2004 16:36 Comments || Top||

#9  Ah, Rantburg! I give this thread a SQ of 9.0! Bravo! Melikes the "Al Kyduh" spelling, too, LOL. Wotta hoot!
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 17:02 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Sr Afghan Official: Unclear If Civilians Died In US Raid
A senior Afghan official said Thursday that it was unclear whether civilians had died in a U.S. airstrike - as President Hamid Karzai and local officials have claimed - and that reports of innocent casualties could be an attempt to discredit U.S. forces. Local officials had said 11 civilians were killed in the Jan. 17 raid on suspected Taliban leaders in the Char Chino district of Uruzgan province. Karzai said Saturday that a government investigation of the strike established 10 civilians had died, including women and children. The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. David Barno, rejected Tuesday as insufficient the government report and demanded more evidence. The military said it killed five militants fleeing a Taliban meeting.

On Thursday, Afghanistan’s deputy interior minister told The Associated Press there were doubts about the evidence and he warned Taliban militants were trying to discredit the American military. "We told all this to the president," Hilalludin Hillal said in an interview. "We cannot find out what really happened in this incident." Hillal said three ministry officials from Kabul traveled to the remote area about a week after the strike, and were shown six graves.
"The delegates asked where were the other five, but the people said they fell into the river and were swept away," Hillal said. He said villagers provided a list of names of civilians killed, including children aged two, three and five years. "We have our doubts," Hillal said, suggesting that militants may indeed have been the victims. He said residents and local officials had confirmed that Taliban were active in the area. Scared locals might be telling officials only what militants had told them to say, Hillal said. "The Taliban want to make propaganda against the Americans," he said. "They are coming and going in this region and the people are afraid of them."

According to the U.S. military, an AC-130 gunship killed five men leaving a compound in the Char Chino Valley, where it suspected a gathering of midlevel Taliban leaders was going on. U.S. officials said the airstrike was called in when armed men moved through the darkness toward special forces troops and Afghan militia who had surrounded the compound. The military says the men were clearly identified on a videotape shot from the aircraft.
Swept away in the river?? Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
And the dog ate their death certificates...
Posted by: TS || 02/05/2004 5:05:29 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and that reports of innocent casualties could be an attempt to discredit U.S. forces.

Marc Herold, call your office...
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||


Karzai sacks intelligence chief
President Hamid Karzai removed Muhammad Arif Sarwari, the head of the National Security Directorate, the Afghan intelligence service, on Wednesday in a move that many here took as a sign of Mr. Karzai’s growing confidence. The dismissal, announced by the official Bakhtar news agency, came amid a flurry of new appointments in the last week, including four new provincial governors and many new regional police chiefs.

The appointments, coming soon after the approval of a new constitution, are part of a drive to improve efficiency and governance, aides to the president said, as well as an indication of Mr. Karzai’s increasing influence. Foreign diplomats and military, United Nations and human rights officials had long called for Mr. Sarwari’s removal. The National Security Directorate, designed along the lines of the KGB, is a Soviet-era relic that was criticized in the last two years for human rights abuses, spying on citizens and serving factional interests rather than the interests of the president and the country. Some Western diplomats have cast aspersions on the directorate’s performance on intelligence matters. Mr. Sarwari is a Panjshiri, a member of the powerful clique from the Panjshir Valley, which still dominates the key ministries of foreign affairs, defense and intelligence in Mr. Karzai’s government. He was removed by presidential decree and appointed as an adviser to the president without portfolio.

Replacing Mr. Sarwari will open the way to modernizing the intelligence service, a presidential aide said. Mr. Sarwari’s replacement has not been announced, but officials said it was likely to be Amrullah Saleh, a former assistant to the intelligence chief and also a Pansjhiri. Mr. Saleh, younger than Mr. Sarwari, well educated and an English speaker, has served until now as the chief liaison officer with the foreign military and diplomatic corps in Kabul. Mr. Sarwari served as the head of intelligence for the Northern Alliance during its resistance to the Taliban in the years before the American invasion in 2001, and was in charge when the alliance’s leader, Ahmed Shah Massoud, was assassinated by suspected Al Qaeda operatives on Sept. 9, 2001. Although blamed by some for that grave security lapse, Mr. Sarwari, better known as Engineer Arif, became head of the National Security Directorate in Kabul when the Northern Alliance took control there in December 2001. In a speech to the loya jirga, or grand council, Mr. Karzai spoke passionately about the need to abolish a service that spies on its own people. The council approved the constitution a month ago.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:20:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dan: you do yeoman's work which I appreciate, but could you, like, break up these longish articles with some pithy commentary?
Posted by: someone || 02/05/2004 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Sorry, I normally post these articles before going to bed and am generally rather tired, hence the noticeable lack of commentary. I figure they're good in of themselves for the information, though.

That and I don't know a thing about the internal politicking of the Northern Alliance ;)
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 0:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah, let's have some smartassery!!!
Posted by: Rafael || 02/05/2004 0:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, I get about halfway through D's articles and really feel a need for a pith break.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 0:29 Comments || Top||

#5  DD, but don't ever go away!
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 0:59 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL, I don't plan to, guys.

I'm in this one for the long haul, same as Fred and the rest of you. We keep on Rantburging until the war ends or we're all dead or enslaved in the Khalifah. That's what it'll take and I think we're more than up to the challenge.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 1:06 Comments || Top||

#7  One small correction, Dan: neither you, nor I, nor any citizen on Rantburg will ever be enslaved in the Khalifah.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 1:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Hear! Hear!
Posted by: phil_b || 02/05/2004 6:29 Comments || Top||

#9  Rantburg: Now with 20% more smartassery (and fresh lemony scent)!
Posted by: Dar || 02/05/2004 8:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Key smartassery for the above - how this intell chief screwed up by not stopping the assasination of Massoud. Which, BTW, took place on Sept 10th, 2001. The guys were AQ agents posing as journalists - not a very good job of vetting them was done. If Massoud had lived, the post war Afghan political situation would have been very different to say the least.

All of the above sounds like good news. Karzai is gradually gaining control over the central govt, and limiting the role of the Panjshiri-Northern Alliance types - but doing it subtly and moderately - he didnt replace the old intell chief with a Pashtun, but with another more "modernist" Panjshiri. Also by appointing new provincial governors, he is extending the writ of the central govt in the provinces. He is even pushing it west, hemming in the turf of "moderate" islamist warlord Ismail Khan, the "emir" of Herat.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#11  He was removed by presidential decree and appointed as an adviser to the president without portfolio

I guess that means they gave him a title and a paycheck to keep him from becoming an enemy. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer..as they say.

PS DAN - by leaving out the smartassery, it just gives the rest of us a blank canvas to work on without having to go find our own articles. Thanks
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Is it citizen on Rantburg or citizen of Rantburg. Certainly when I come here I feel I'm among like minds!
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 02/05/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Tony: It's actually faculty, students, alumni, and associates of the University of Rantburg (UR, nor RU), with the expressed motto of "Live Free Through Better Intelligence". Our mission is to educate the rest of the self-inflicted, self-inflated dumba$$es into why their leftist, victim mentality is unworthy of continued support. Our secondary goal is to seek out, understand, and destroy those cultures who wish to enslave us with their seventh-century stupidity. Our weapon of choice is truth, intelligently intertwined around smartassery to mask its power during its subtle intrusion into their limited minds.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/05/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#14  I like Uncle Cecil's motto Fightin Ingnorance since 1973
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#15  Our weapon of choice is truth, intelligently intertwined around smartassery to mask its power during its subtle intrusion into their limited minds.

Damn, that's good.... worked on me.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 17:57 Comments || Top||

#16  In a sense the Internet has taken us back 200 years to before the days of mass media and the consenses they manufacture. Its like living in town where there are a thousand town meetings every day and you can go to as many as you like.

Never again will elites be able to impose their views through bias, spin and false dichotomies.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/05/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#17  "Modernizing the intel service."

Maybe they could give us some ideas???
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 02/05/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||

#18  Its like living in town where there are a thousand town meetings every day and you can go to as many as you like.

Apt analogy, phil. Especially since every so often one of the village idiots stumbles through the door to amuse us...
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:07 Comments || Top||


Arabia
‘Tragedy at Jamrat Was Avoidable’
Interior Minister Prince Naif yesterday emphasized Saudi Arabia’s efforts to ensure the security of pilgrims and said Sunday’s Jamrat stampede could have been avoided if pilgrims had behaved calmly.
"It wudn't us. It was them. Wotta buncha dumbasses..."
“I saw people jump over those who fell while others stood on top of them to throw stones. We had hoped that our pilgrims would behave calmly and respect those who fell down or fainted, rather than step on them,” he said.
"I mean, mobs usually behave calmly, don't they?"
Prince Naif, who is chairman of the Supreme Haj Committee, called upon Haj officials in Islamic countries to instruct their pilgrims in what is necessary in order to prevent harm to themselves and others.
"Yeah! We're tired of cleaning up your corpses!"
“What happened was the will of God and we do not want to blame pilgrims,” he said referring to Sunday’s stampede in which 251 pilgrims were crushed to death and nearly 240 injured.
"So, y'see, if it wudn't their own fault then there was nothin' to be done! God dunnit!"
Authorities had tried to prevent tragedy by urging the pilgrims to stone the devil in Mina at different times.
"Okay. Youse guys over here, you're gonna riot at 10 o'clock, and youse guys, you're gonna riot at 11 o'clock..."
Addressing top officers at the end of the Haj on Tuesday, Prince Naif commended their attempts to prevent moves to undermine the security of the Kingdom and pilgrims. “There were no security breaches or sabotage operations,” he pointed out.
"Didn't need any. We still managed to have more people killed than they had in Bali. Beat 'em by about a third, in fact!"
The minister said the security, safety and traffic plans were carried out according to the highest standards and “those who say otherwise are ungrateful or hate this country.”
"I mean, nobody coulda done it better'n us..."
Prince Naif said he believed that the pilgrims who died in the stampede would enter Paradise. “We hope that their place in paradise with the faithful is assured because they have fulfilled their pilgrimage duties.”
"So, really it was a good thing that they died, right?"
He said the stampede, while lamentable, was not any different from what might occur in a crowded place elsewhere in the world and should be kept in perspective.
"I mean, look at Disneyland..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/05/2004 14:13 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Prince Nayef (Naif. Naive. Who cares?) at his best. The perfect example of insh'allah as Govt policy... and threat, when needed for butt-coverage. Gotta love it. No other place quite as, um, uh, perfect as The Magic Kingdom.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Ah... this is the approach Cincinnati should have taken after the Who concert: "Rather than banning festival seating and generally improving the flow of people through the venue, we are asking that ticket outlets spend more time on educating the consumer as to the proper way to behave in concert stampedes."
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 14:29 Comments || Top||

#3  The perfect example of insh'allah
I understand this to be as allah wills it.. it's also a threat? (as Govt policy)?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#4  we know that this is unavoidable since in every superbowl, world series game and 4th of July episode, hundreds of kfr are killed in similar stampedes
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 15:16 Comments || Top||

#5  I remember his excuses given when the Iranian pilgrims died while duking it out with cops back in '87. Weak, weak. The authorities said about 400 died, so that means the number was really much higher. This guy has to be number 1 on the Royal Family Cerebral Calcification Quotient.
Posted by: Michael || 02/05/2004 15:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Royal Family Cerebral Calcification Quotient.

Now that gentlemen.... is Rantburgian.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah, Shipman, that's sweet of you. "Ossification" had also crossed my mind.
Posted by: Michael || 02/05/2004 16:04 Comments || Top||

#8  "If the Pirates of the Carribean ride breaks, the pirates don't start eating the customers."
-- Favorite line from "Jurassic Park"
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 16:23 Comments || Top||

#9  "it's also a threat?"
Why of course! He said this as well:
“...those who say otherwise are ungrateful or hate this country.”

Hey, if you're Prince Naive Nayef, whatever you say is a threat, veiled or otherwise, obviously true... inside The Magic Kingdom, anyway. That's one reason why it's just so gosh-darn Magical!
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#10  Indeed, couln't agree more. Nayif's got such wonderous occult powers he can make people who're 'bad' just disappear - now isn't that truly magical? 'Course being the guy in chrge of the Mabaheeth helps I suppose, but hey, let's not be churlish...
Still this hajj has been quite tame, IIRC a few years back ~1000 people were asphixiated in a tunnel in Mina... oh well, Maktoub!
Posted by: Dave || 02/05/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||


Yemen rejects Riyadh building of a wall on its borders
Hypocrisy thy name is Islam!
News reports in Sanaa said that Yemen notified Saudi Arabia its objection to build a separation wall along its borders in a way violates the border demarcation agreement between the two countries. The rejection came after the Saudi authorities started to build the wall in an area on which Yemen says that it is considered by the border demarcation agreement as an empty zone.
It wouldn’t be to keep out terrorists by any chance?
The two Yemenis and Saudis border committees in charge of implementing their bilateral border treaty had met more than one time in Sanaa and Riyadh in order to draw the final arrangements, on laying border markers and establishing land border crossings. The two committees witnessed several differences on defining the crossing, their number and where it will be established and that was postponed to later meetings. The two countries chose the German "Hansa Luftbild" company to put the border markers, according to items and appendixes of the border treaty signed in Jeddah in June 2000. The two sides postponed the company’s work because of the continued differences on the position of some of these markers. Worthy mentioning that the Yemeni-Saudi agreement on demarking joint borders between the two states, which is of 1350 KM length had ended an old conflict between the two states that lasted for decades. Observers fear that the new Saudi measures might lead to a military confrontation between the two states.
Gets my vote! Yemen seems to have a fairly capable military by the standards of the region. Of course the UN should be referring this to the World court.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/05/2004 2:18:14 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hi·lar·i·ous

Thanks for posting it.
Posted by: Bernardz || 02/05/2004 6:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Muslems building a wall to keep out Brother Muslems.Seems a little strange that the Saudis can build a seperation wall,and that's ok.
Israelies build a wall and that is wrong.
Can you say hypocrite?

See,I knew you could.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/05/2004 6:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Raptor:
In the magnificent logic of an exgirlfriend.... if you don't know (the difference) I'm certainly not going to tell you.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Israel should make sure to refer to this in it's brief refuting the WC legitimacy -- the one in which arab states, including Saudi Arabia, say that such a wall is unthinkable.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 02/05/2004 8:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Saudi Arabia has been dispute with(North)Yemen since 1918. After becoming independent of the Ottoman Empire, Yemen claimed territory that Ibn Saud felt he had acquired in conquering southern Arabia. That led to war in the '30s ending with Yemen signing the Taif Agreement in 1934 and ceding the disputed territory plus more. The Yemeni's have been trying to reverse the agreement ever since.

The $986 million wall is the latest solution. Frost wasn't completely correct when he wrote, "SOMETHING there is that doesn't love a wall....". Hansa Luftbild thinks they're great.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 02/05/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Good walls fences make good neighbors...
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Hansa Luftbild

Sounds like Haliburton/lite to me. Hit the Bat!
Posted by: Deanie babie || 02/05/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||


Hajjis debate forgiving terrorists
Although the annual hajj is a time of erasing past sins, some pilgrims are finding it hard to forgive Islamic militants -- including suicide bombers -- for blackening their religion’s image.
Something tells me they'll somehow do it, though...
The pilgrimage comes as some militants and clerics in the Arab world have renounced their extremist stands in recent months. They embraced moderation in the wake of international and domestic pressure, especially since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the US. While some pilgrims in this holy city said militants don’t deserve forgiveness, many others maintained that forgiveness, like repentance, is crucial to eliminating extremism. "We must not create an enmity with them," Saudi pilgrim Abdullah al-Ghamdi, 27, said of the militants.
Note the surname here. Anybody in your immediate family (as opposed to just the tribe) in the jug for this type of stuff, son?
We have to open a dialogue with them so that they are fully convinced," he said. Syrian merchant and first-time pilgrim Seif Eddin Shalabi disagreed. "By God, we can never forgive them for what they have done," Shalabi said on Tuesday. "They have caused strife between Muslims themselves and between Muslims and the West. Also what about the numerous victims? Who’s to be held accountable for that?"
Well, they're dead. It's all in the past. Time to move on. Maybe a nice riot group hug will bring closure...
Shalabi said militants have caused resistance to be confused with terrorism, "which has undermined our causes in Palestine and Iraq."
"... where it's okay to kill and maim and bomb and shoot indiscriminately."
Shoeib Adamou, from Nigeria, said terrorists cannot even be considered real Muslims. "The whole Muslim community has repeatedly denounced them, so forgiveness is not even an issue here," he said, as waves of pilgrims poured into Mecca for the last rites of a pilgrimage marred by the trampling deaths of 251 people on Sunday.
Al-Ghamdis are a forgiving lot. When it comes to al-Ghamdis, of course...
"The door to repentance is open," said Egyptian salesman Mohammed al-Sayed, who was performing his third hajj. "The important thing is that they are sincere."
Ummm... They're sincere in their desire to kill us all. Does that count?
Usama Mustafa, an American of Lebanese origin, praised militants who repented, but accused the US and Arab regimes of "pushing the militants to the extreme" -- America through its perceived bias toward Israel, and Arab governments by oppressing their own citizens. "What do they expect from these people? That they smile back at them? The injustice is so clear," said the hospital administrator from Alexandria, Virginia. "We cannot blame them [militants] too much, and we cannot defend them too much," he said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:11:52 AM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When it becomes popular to trash islamazoids that's a good thing. If you want to believe fake shit, go for it, it's when the jihadi thing starts to snake is when we have a problem. And I'm not falling for this crap. Smiegle loves the master but for the fat Hobit!
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  The United States doesn't blame Israel too much and doesn't defend Israel too much.
The United States doesn't blame Saudi Arabia too much and doesn't defend Saudi Arabia too much.
The United States doesn't blame Afghanistan too much and doesn't defend Afghanistan too much.
The United States doesn't blame Moslem dictatorships too much and doesn't defend Moslem dictatorships too much.



Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 7:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Usama Mustafa, if he's real, should have problems finding work in the US once he returns. Not because he's Muslim, but because he's a treasonous bastard.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 9:07 Comments || Top||

#4  lucky ,evidently you have missed a few things the islamic militants have done in the last few years. let them take their"jihad" and shove it. have you not noticed if the price of bananas goes up they call for a jihad
Posted by: smokeysinse || 02/05/2004 9:36 Comments || Top||

#5  said the hospital administrator from Alexandria, Virginia.

Yikes...Don't drink the water in that hospital. Spooky isn't it..these people in positions to do so much harm!!
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't worry sane folks... I got most of 'em under control or close surv... surval.. survienc.... we keeps a close watch. No laughing white folks.... faisals one of you.
Posted by: Nuss Ratchett || 02/05/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#7  *I* have a BETTER IDEA!

Why don't you moderates KILL ALL THE TERRORISTS, and LET ALLAH SORT THEM OUT? Okay?
Posted by: Ptah || 02/05/2004 21:48 Comments || Top||


Europe
German Court Clears Mzoudi of Aiding 9/11 Attack
REUTERS
A Moroccan man accused of helping the September 11 suicide hijackers was acquitted by a German court Thursday. Abdelghani Mzoudi, 31, had been charged in Germany’s second major 9/11 trial with aiding and abetting the murder of several thousand people and being a member of a terrorist organization, the Hamburg cell of al Qaeda. The court pronounced its verdict despite a last-minute bid by lawyers for victims’ families to delay it, citing alleged new evidence linked to the case of accused September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui in the United States.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/05/2004 5:56:39 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This article is yet another tipping-point for me.

[rant]
Someday, prolly sooner rather than later, the West will quit quibbling about whether or not an asshat has (or does not have) an Official AlQ Membership Card - good for discounts with most of the Arab world's arms suppliers - and just say:
"Are you an Islamozoid asshat who wants to kill people just because they don't buy your Calipahte BS? Yes. Did you do anything to aid in the deaths of these utterly innocent people? Yes. You're forfeit." *bang* QED.

Everybody (except the jihadi twinkies and the terminally stupid) feels it in their gut. We all know it's coming. The legalistic and PC-istic restraints, totally self-imposed and typical of the West alone, will eventually yield to a much harder and realistic line of demarcation. This line was clearly marked by Dubya in his (paraphrased) "if you're not for us then you're against us" statement.

We will shed the gloves when the majority get this one simple fact: we are the only ones who have any rules - the Izzoids sure as hell don't. Once upon a time, the fact that we won anyway, even with one hand tied behind our backs, was a point of honor. It cost us lives, but we were willing to pay.

Now, given the dramatic increases in the lethality of weapons in bizarre conjuction with public expectations that, somehow (magic, I guess), we can fight and win wars with zero casualties, the strain of reality is beginning to show. We have casualties. They're in Iraq, rather than on the Mall in DC or in the Mall in Chevy Chase, but that little nuance is lost on the screamers who demand an idyllic world. Some want to cut and run. Some think they want to pull the trigger themselves. Some think just applying more hi-tech will balance this equation. Some wind themselves up in trivialities, such as the "scandal" of Janet's boobie, so they don't have to face such large issues. The Donks are, as per usual, trying to appeal to Merkins to abandon the hard realities for the easy phantasies of (more magic req'd here) isolationist withdrawal whilst maintaining a multilateralist "feel good" approach so that everyone will love us, again - as if they ever did.

I think we have two very serious challenges ahead:

1) Make absolutely damned certain that Dubya is reelected, else our already lost treasure from current efforts is truly lost forever without result - and the inevitable future conflicts will be far far more costly.

2) When we finally abandon our high-ground ethical stand that lets asshats like Mzoudi walk, we don't dither and quibble about where we should then draw the line - we just do what we must do to survive, and do it with every means at our disposal that fit the circumstances. The phools should lean into the strike zone and take one for the team. This will be the time for the real Hard Boyz to step up to the plate.

No apologies.
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Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#2  I saw all the smiles in that courtroom. Mzoudi sitting there with that sleepy eyed look.

Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 12:34 Comments || Top||

#3  .com, with all respect...but I'd say put 80% of the blame on Ashcroft's obstructionist actions concerning this trial. This Hamburg court WANTED to convict Mzoudi because it smelled Mzoudi's guilt three miles against the wind. But it got next to nothing from the U.S. I have followed this trial very closely and I wondered: Why in the world was the only tangible thing the U.S. authorities finally forked over to Germany Binalshib's exoneration of Mzoudi (I guess Ramzi had more to say?) . Why did the German court try to save the case in extremis by calling Mr. Storyteller Zakeri?
In dubio pro reo is a time honored principle. If you want to toss it overboard than make sure that nobody will ever confuse you with somebody who dined in the same restaurant with a person who might know somebody who knows a terrorist.
We uphold our legal principles for child rapists and mass murderers... shall we really throw them overboard for turbans with beards? The Romans once said: "Fiat iustitia et pereat mundi".
Did you really expect the German court to hand out a conviction based on practically no evidence at all? Evidence that the U.S. intelligence probably has (or they know at least that they haven't got any).
But relax: Mzoudi will be kicked to Morocco where you can take care of him.
Maybe the U.S. can afford to have Guantanamo. Germany can't. Not Germany.
Posted by: True German Ally || 02/05/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#4  TGA - Easy, easy! I made no criticism of the German court, nor meant any. You educated me on this situation quite well earlier - and I took it to heart. Why was the US so tight with intel or info? We can only guess. Prolly a mixture of State Dept meddling and intel services realizing that giving away much would compromise something else - which they must've deemed more important.

No - your points were, and are, well taken. And no disrespect to the German court or Germany at all.

I am just looking ahead to that ugly time when the gloves will have to come off. Fighting wars had evolved to the point that there were rules of war - and sane men (and women) abided by them because the consequences for not doing so were credible and sickening.

Regards Islamofascists, it is more than obvious to all of us that this evolution didn't include them -- you can accurately say that Islam didn't evolve at all - it's mired in the 7th century and will never emerge. It deserves no better treatment or better ROE than it gives - and that is my point. We've already seen it. It is truly barbaric and, by Western standards (Order of the Garter, et al), something very hard for the West to do, yet there won't be any choice, at some point in the future. I hope this clarifies my comments, Bro.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#5  It's all John Ashcrofts fault. Come on.

Hey! Nothing against the German people as a whole, but I'm guessing that the people in our government didn't give you the information to the people in your government because enough of our people didn't think enough of YOUR people could be trusted with it.

Considering Schroeder's past performance, it would be irresponsible if our Government trusted sensitive intel with him. But I guess it's all John Ashcroft's fault that Schroeder has no claim to demand our trust.

Seems to me that you have adopted the true Islamic method of looking for someone else to blame, rather than looking inward to find flaws in need of correction. Maybe you should be wondering what YOUR government has done that the USA feels too uncomfortable to share intel with it, rather than just blaming the US for not feeling comfortable enough to do it.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 15:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Sure, don't worry! The thing is that I don't really know what do do or think in this case.

If Mzoudi was "innocent" (or rather only marginally involved), then the procedure is ok but then the U.S. should refrain from criticizing us for being to lenient. But if Mzoudi was involved with killing 3000 people then I think there is a limit to secrecy... then please give us at least the minimum to convict him.

But I think the Morocco solution was preferred either way.

As for Islam... I am not entirely pessimistic. This religion is mired in the 7th century because of the Saudis and the Mullahs. Solve that problem and Islam can evolve. Islam in Tunisia or Morocco is something we can well live with. But if Dubya gets his reelection, my plea would be: Get to the heart of the matter: Saudi Arabia (Iran might get out of it's mess by itself, it has already been a far more progressive country).
Posted by: True German Ally || 02/05/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#7  um..that being said, I'm sorry for the German People (and everyone really) that he got off. Only the bad people will be happy with this one.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#8  B... "sensitive intel????" Are you joking? Where did 9/11 happen, in Berlin or in New York? You want us to convict the people who did it or you want to keep your oh so valuable intel?
Do you have any idea how much valuable intel GERMANY shares with U.S. authorities? Do you know anything about the excellent working relationship between the BND and the CIA? Do you know that the CIA can operate in Germany and get the assistance it needs (if it asks nicely, of course). I'd be blunt and say that 20 to 30% of valuable Middle East info the U.S. receives is from German sources, maybe even more in the case of Iran.
This has nothing to do with Schroeder. The German secretary of the interior is about as appeasing to terrorism as Ashcroft. And Schroeder may have refused to join the Iraq war but he is firmly committed to the WOT (see Afghanistan).

In Mzoudi's case, you have the guys and the info: Keep the info if you wish. But don't expect us to make a joke out of our legal system.

We had that already.
Posted by: True German Ally || 02/05/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#9  The German secretary of the interior is about as appeasing to terrorism as Ashcroft.

But your foreign minister has terrorists over for weekend sleep-overs, no?

And, seriously, TGA, you guys made a joke out of your own legal system by letting a cannibal off lightly.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||

#10  TGA - I think it's absurd and self destructive to blame John Ashcroft. You are right in much of what you say - but stop and think about it - do you really think that the USA WANTED him to get off? Instead of blaming, you should be asking WHY was our government willing to let a known terrorist go free. WHY, considering the consequences, did our government not assist your government?? Obviously, we too would have liked to have seen a conviction, so someone must have had a good reason not to share the intel.

Blaming John Ashcroft is just silly when such a deeper question for the German people lies at hand.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#11  Are we going into that "I know what you did last summer 30 years ago?" When did George W. Bush start to see the light?

Re cannibal: The system was simply not prepared for this. Societies sometimes don't have laws for things that never happened before.

And don't blame us for trials going wrong... just remember a guy called O.J.
Posted by: True German Ally || 02/05/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#12  OJ was wealthy, famous, had one of the best trial lawyers of his time, and had several huge screw-ups by the police. Mzoudi didn't have money, wasn't famous, didn't have the best of lawyer around, and didn't have screw-ups by the police except for evidence beingthrown out by the judge.

There's a big difference between these two trials. Plus OJ lost all his money.
Posted by: Charles || 02/05/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#13  I accept the fact that Germany had to follow the rule of law. Whatever the US did, or didn't, know about this asshat was either not relevant to the trial / charges or kept close for some reason they felt more important.

I'm wondering about the next phase, when we are forced to sink to their level in order to fight them. I believe it's likely to come - and it'll be tough to swallow since many of us won't much like the effect it has on how we will conduct trials -- any more than TGA correctly felt when the US (apparently) wanted a conviction, but chose not to help the German Prosecutor. Regards outside criticism, I hope I'll react with the same civility as TGA... I can hear myself saying something far less tolerant and dignified! What I don't doubt is that it's coming... I don't share TGA's view of non-Wahhabi Islam because the Wahhabists have been very bizzy and very generous for more than 30 years, now. I think their stink is definitely on most now, if not all, of Islam.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#14  just for the record, I'm not arguing with TGA's disappointment in the US decision not to provide intel - I certainly can understand that, as I too am disappointed. And TGA's right about the US not being able to throw stones re: absurd jury verdicts. I'm just saying that his scapegoating John Ashcroft/Blame America First explanation avoids all meaningful introspection as to why the Americans felt they could not provide the Germans the intel needed to convict a man everyone wanted convicted!
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||

#15  Re cannibal: The system was simply not prepared for this. Societies sometimes don't have laws for things that never happened before.

Germany has no murders?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 21:24 Comments || Top||


FBI Director in France to Discuss Terror
Hot on the heels of flight cancellations because of terror concerns, FBI Director Robert Mueller visited France and Britain this week, with talks in Paris focusing on terrorism and other crime issues, officials said Wednesday. Mueller’s visit to Paris followed the grounding of six U.S.-bound trans-Atlantic flights from Britain and France on Sunday and Monday because of what U.S. authorities described as "specific and credible" terrorist threats. Mueller, making his first visit to France as FBI director, came to discuss "ongoing cooperation and collaboration with the FBI’s French counterparts in the fight against terrorism and other criminal matters, and to express his appreciation for the continuing support of these French agencies," said U.S. Embassy spokesman Leonard Korycki.

Mueller visited London earlier in the week, the U.S. Embassy there said. Mueller held talks Tuesday with France’s justice minister and with the head of France’s domestic security agency, the DST, French officials said. On Wednesday morning, he met law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. A spokesman for the minister refused to give details of the hourlong talks, but confirmed they touched on security issues. French and U.S. officials insist that cooperation on security and intelligence matters remains good despite the tensions that erupted between Paris and Washington last year over the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The head of the French DST security agency, Pierre de Bousquet de Florian, told The Associated Press in a recent interview that his department is in contact with the FBI and the CIA two or three times a day.
I hope the French keep cooperating -- too many potential thugs and jihadis running around in Europe.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 2:48:24 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Great White North
The Good and Peaceable Kingdom Part deux
Nineteen of 29 soldiers in a unit bound for the war on terror in Afghanistan have tested positive for illicit drug use, the Canadian Forces confirmed today.
Drug Testing? Where’s my lawyer?
The tests followed searches of the base by military police and drug-detecting dogs earlier this week after they received a tip.
I listen to my dog all the time but I never got no tips. Red Clover in the 4th at Woodbine?
Of those who tested positive, 17 were to have gone to Afghanistan.
Oh sure! Nothing like a free trip to The Source!
The military said none of the 17 will be going.
Bummer! And I was looking to bring back duty free!
A small quantity of drugs was also found during the search of several offices and lockers belonging to the 3rd Battalion of the Royal 22nd Regiment at Valcartier, said the National Investigative Service, the investigative arm of the military police.
Small Quantity? We ran out of bullets but we have a few grams left. Priorities!
The 19 could face reprimands or discharge from the forces, the military said in a statement.
or we could send them somewhere nasty, like Greenland, or France
“The chain of command is now taking appropriate preventative measures to ensure the safety of troops deployed in Afghanistan,” said Lt-Col. Bernard Ouellette, acting commander of 5 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group.
Like giving them helicopters that fly, or something more that dune buggies to drive around in, that kind of safety?
Posted by: john || 02/05/2004 12:35:31 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Link screwed. I hate newspapapers that have links longer than the character entry limit. My bad. Sorry Fred.

Failed drug tests gut Afghan-bound unit
Posted by: john || 02/05/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#2  You mean to tell me that some Canadian soldiers didn't take their Peacekeeping Duties seriously and got smoked up on the funky stuff while waiting for deployment?

Clearly MTV, George Bush and the USA are to blame! :p
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Illicit drugs? You mean Canada forgot to legalize one or two?
Posted by: BH || 02/05/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#4  BH -- They tested positive for tobacco.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Red Clover in the 4th at Woodbine?
Never trust a dawg talking about a dawg talking about a dog.
Posted by: Lassie || 02/05/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#6  They race dogs at Woodbine???
Posted by: A1 || 02/05/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||

#7  The cynical part of me wonders if they found out where they were going and decided to disqualify themselves.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:36 Comments || Top||


The Good and Peaceable Kingdom
The more Canadian police dig underneath a pig farm east of Vancouver, British Columbia, the more death they unearth. Over the past two years, police have discovered the partial remains of 31 women, making it the country’s worst serial killer case. "This is supposedly the good and peaceable kingdom ... Canada," said criminologist/sociologist Bob Ratner. "It’s getting increasingly difficult to think of Canada as some kind of sanctuary from those crimes."
Yeah, cuz there’s never any crime in the Socialist Workers Paradise™
Farm owner Robert Willy Pickton faces 22 counts of murder so far. His alleged victims are all prostitutes from downtown Vancouver’s east side.
More on the actual crime at the link. Rather annoying, this Canadian attitude that bad things only happen down south.
The details of the murders are unbelievably gruesome. Police found human body parts in freezers used to store unsold meat. They also discovered remains in a wood chipper — the victims’ bodies turned into pig feed. But most Canadians don’t know any of this horrifying evidence because the country’s media has been barred from reporting it.
Kinda makes one wonder what else the Canadia "media" has been barred from reporting, such as uncivil activies by some resident jihadis desperate refugees.
"Canadians are trying to protect the integrity of the criminal justice system, protect people’s reputation against encroachment, against jury taint," said Mary Lynn Young, an assistant journalism professor at the University of British Columbia.
Right...
But experts warn that Canada’s coverage ban has a dangerous flip side — shielding the public from the details of the case also protects the police from critical scrutiny and has the public wondering why it took so long for the women to be found.
Rather sounds like Mexico and their nice serial killer(s) case they have going on near Jarez.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 11:03:48 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ke-rap. The link to the Juarez article list is this:

http://takenbythesky.net/juarez/articles.html
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#2  This always reminds me of Brick Top in Snatch. "Never trust a man who owns a pig farm."
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Barred from reporting it!@#@!@!!@!???!??!??

What?

You're kidding me. What would be the reaction if this happened in America?
Posted by: gromky || 02/05/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#4  the victims’ bodies turned into pig feed.

Well, so much for that Canadian bacon pizza.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#5  4thInfVet - Ahhhh, now I'm kicking myself for not remembering that line when I was posting. *g*
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 11:40 Comments || Top||

#6  They also discovered remains in a wood chipper

a la Fargo.
Posted by: Steve YAO || 02/05/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||

#7  The media will start calling him an American-style serial killer in 4...3...2...
Posted by: BH || 02/05/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Jeesh..talk about a mommy-state. Here is an additional statement by Mary Lynn Young:

Some believe the purpose of the press is to report the news. However, We believe it is Our duty to provide only carefully worded press releases, suitable for eyes of The Children People(TM).

So that The Children People(TM) will sleep well, we will only print carefully monitored state sanctioned press releases which will give The Children People(TM) comfort by believing that The Boogy Man attacks only American children, who are bad and that The Boogey Man never attacks Canadian children..who are good!! Our slogan is, THE NEWS THAT WE BELIEVE IS BEST FOR YOU.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#9  We believe it is Our duty to provide only carefully worded press releases, suitable for eyes of The People

Good Lord, it'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. Are we sure this isn't satire? Or is the emperor really that nekkid. I didn't realize stalin was alive and well in the GWN.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't take it out on the swine. Some of my best friends are pigs.

Yes... I do like hogs.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#11  I wonder if Pickton's sign had "We Don't Rent Pigs" on it.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#12  This isn't the first time, of course. Canada censored all coverage of the Karen Homolka and Paul Bernardo trials in 1993 and 1995. These were horrific cases; multiple murders and rapes, even of their daughter. And Karen engineered a plea bargain deal where she only got 12 years in jail; nothing was reported until after Paul's trial two years later, when people were shocked by her depravity.

Canadians flocked to US sources for trial information. There was even a USENET newsgroup in her “honor”. Of course, the Canadians tried to block that. It didn't work.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 02/05/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#13  "We Don't Rent Pigs"

Now you just know they did.
Posted by: McMurtry || 02/05/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#14  I have no idea where this story is being reported from. Here in Canada, I can read about the case in every daily newspaper and see it on the TV news.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/05/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#15  I think I'm going to be sick. I just had bacon from Canada.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 02/05/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||


Canucks looking into Kabul bombing claim
Canada’s military is investigating a sketchy, but shocking report that the suicide bomber who killed a Canadian soldier in Afghanistan last week may have had his own connections to Canada, and al Qaeda.
"Yes. We're shocked! Shocked, I tell you! Are there any more of those fried beaver tails?"
On Wednesday, an Agence France-Presse report cited a Taliban spokesperson who said the bomber may have been a Canadian named Mohammed Abdullah, from a family with well-documented connections to al Qaeda. In Ottawa, Defence Minister David Pratt reacted to the allegation with caution. "You have to keep in mind the source here -- it is apparently a Taliban member and we take all of the information that they provide us with a grain of salt," he told reporters outside the Commons. "I can’t confirm anything at this point. We’re going to need a lot more evidence and a lot more details from the folks in Afghanistan."
"I'm sure it couldn't be him. Perhaps some sort of mistake?"
Pratt said DNA evidence may be used to identify the attacker who killed Cpl. Jamie Murphy of Conception Harbour, Nfld., and an Afghan bystander about a kilometre from the Canadian base in Kabul on Jan. 27. Taliban spokesperson Mohammad Saiful Adel reportedly told AFP that suicide bomber’s father was an al Qaeda member who fought against the Soviets and spent a lot of his life in Pakistan and in Afghanistan. The spokesperson alleges the bomber was Mohammad Abdullah, "the child of a Canadian citizen from Egypt named Abdul Rehman."
Pretty generic names. Prob'ly got multiple entries in Jean Cretien's rolodex...
"He was killed during a recent operation by the Pakistan army against the village of Angoor Adda, in the Pakistani tribal zone," Agence France-Presse said in a report from Kabul. But it was Ahmed Said Khadr, not Abdul Rehman, whose death last October was recently confirmed through DNA analysis. Of the five sons in the Khadr family, Abdullah is the only one who disappeared after September 11, 2001, and had never been tracked down.
Is CTV not up on the concept of noms-de-guerre? How about false noses and moustaches? Wigs? Phony passports? Dead people's birth certificates? Have they ever been misled? Has anyone lied to them? Why are they in the news business?
His younger brother, Abdurahman Khadr, talked to CTV News in a telephone interview from his Toronto home on Wednesday. "I don’t know what to think about it right now. I’m just trying to call them right now and find out what’s happening with my family," he said. Asked if he’s worried about his brother, Khadr said no. "I don’t know if I should be because I don’t think it was him."
"And if it was, he's in a better place now, playing grab-ass with 72 virgins, like we're not allowed to do in this vale of tears..."
On Wednesday, Pratt said officials are investigating the allegations. "We want to check things out," he said. "Obviously that investigation hasn’t been completed at this point."
"I mean, does the family need bereavement counseling?"
Canadian officials have confirmed that human remains were collected from the blast site in Kabul.
"Mahmoud! Hand me that butter knife when y'r done!"
Allied forces run DNA tests on dead enemy as a matter of routine. The FBI and U.S. military intelligence have extensive data banks of DNA on suspected terrorists. Afghan authorities and the International Security Assistance Force, of which Canada is part, have not yet revealed details of the suicide bomber except to say he had rigged his bomb with mortars and artillery as well as explosives.
Guess that's one way to launch yourself into the Great Beyond...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:14:21 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OK .com, I concede your point.
Posted by: Rafael || 02/05/2004 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  So he rigged his bomb not only with mortars and artillery but also, if true, explosives. Not sure if the DNA samples can verify this. Canadian officials are usually reluctant to place any blame.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 1:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Allied forces run DNA tests on dead enemy as a matter of routine. The FBI and U.S. military intelligence have extensive data banks of DNA on suspected terrorists.

To me that is the most interesting point. Do we do that in Iraq also?
Posted by: 3dc || 02/05/2004 1:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Rafael - Honest response, Bro... I'm truly sorry about the loss of this fine man, your upstanding Cpl Murphy. And his being there, at the point of the spear, makes all the difference - proving we're all in this together. I retract all snarkiness - Murphy shames me. Let's kick some ass so the insanity can be stopped. You, make that we, need all the Cpl Murphys we have - and need to preserve their lives, as they are the makings of a better future. My condolences, Bro.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Taliban spokesperson

That's gotta be PC spin by CTV; I don't see the Taliban using women for anything except cooking goat stew and churning out jihadis...
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 12:44 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Indian Army set to get advanced weapons
For the first time after the infamous Bofors controversy rocked the defence establishment in the late 1980s, India is now finally moving towards acquiring deadly firepower in the shape of advanced artillery and rocket systems. Top-level defence sources on Thursday said that the Army would initially induct four regiments of tracked and wheeled 155 mm self-propelled artillery systems; five regiments of 155mm towed guns; and two regiments each of the long-range Russian "Smerch" multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) and the indigenous medium-range "Pinaka" MLRS. This entire project to fill a major gap in the Army’s existing artillery arsenal will be worth an estimated Rs 10,000 crore. "We are also looking at integrating the Israeli rocket trajectory correcting system (TCS) with Pinaka to achieve pin-point accuracy," said a source.
That’ll upset the neighbors.
South African armament firm Denel has been selected for the contract for the four regiments (18 guns each) of the 155 mm self-propelled guns. The "tracked G series" 52-calibre guns will be mounted on ’Arjun’ main battle tank chassis for deployment in desert areas.
Maybe the best 155mm gun in the world.
The "wheeled" guns, in turn, will be autonomous units for areas like the Punjab and Jammu sectors. "The detailed note for these guns has been sent to the finance ministry," said an officer. The bid for the five regiments of the 155mm towed guns is still being contested among three contenders - South Africa ’s Denel , Israel ’s Soltam and SWS (Swedish Weapon Systems) Defence - after two rounds of trials in the summers of 2002 and 2003. As for the ’Smerch’ MLRS, which can fire a salvo of rockets at targets 90 km away, sources said the ’Commercial Negotiations Committee’ was slated to begin discussions with Russia soon. "The absence of longer range MLRS was felt during Kargil. Existing rocket systems have a range of only 20 km. Pinaka (40 km range) and Smerch will effectively fill the gap," said an artillery officer.
The Pakistani’s will seethe over this purchase.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 12:03:58 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  infamous Bofors controversy
I musta been chewing the yohibi bark... what was that all about?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:57 Comments || Top||

#2  The Pakistani’s will seethe over this purchase.

When DON'T they seethe?

Ed.
Posted by: Ed Becerra || 02/05/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#3  South African armament firm Denel has been selected for the contract for the four regiments (18 guns each) of the 155 mm self-propelled guns. The "tracked G series" 52-calibre guns will be mounted on ’Arjun’ main battle tank chassis for deployment in desert areas.
Maybe the best 155mm gun in the world.

Gerald Bull's legacy still stalks the world. Why oh why did the US Army not listen to this guy
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/05/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#4  what was that all about?
A corruption scandal, millions of dollars for the army siphoned off by some politicians, I don't know the full details.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/05/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||


Details on Khan’s Get Out Of Jail Free Deal
EFL:
Key government officials, including a top lawyer of the country, held extensive meetings with Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan in Islamabad in the past few days before Dr Khan agreed to publicly acknowledge his personal role in the transfer of nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea in exchange for the government’s clemency for his unauthorised activities as the head of the Khan Research Laboratory (KRL) founded by him in 1976, officials and other informed sources said.
This would be your standard plea bargain meeting, government lays out the evidence it has and offers Khan a way out.
The four associates of Dr Khan, who were formally detained under the Security of Pakistan Act for 90 days on Tuesday will now be removed from their official jobs but, like Dr Khan, they may also be spared of prosecution, informed officials said.
They would have had less to bargain with, I’ll wager they gave up evidence on Khan.
"They will have to complete their detention term before a decision on their future in May this year," said an official, who didn’t expect a hindered public life for Dr Khan, at least during the current year. "For his past contribution to the country’s nuclear programme, the government security would stay with Dr Khan throughout his life," an official said, who offered no comments, when asked if this was the government’s measure of keeping a tight watch on Dr Khan’s engagements.
"The guards? They’re there to 'protect' Dr Khan, he’s a important man."
The government has already decided to overhaul the entire spectrum of the nation’s nuclear programme, particularly the KRL, by retiring all scientists and officials, who have completed 25 years of service with the KRL.
Cleaning out the old guard who were loyal to Khan.
In fifth year of his association with Pakistan’s nuclear programme Lt-Gen Khalid Kidwai, the head of the Strategic Planning and Development Cell, is heading the entire research and development activities in the country’s nuclear facilities. Pakistan’s arsenal of nuclear weapons and material has been placed under the strictest of custodial control of the nation’s exclusive strategic forces currently being commanded by Lt-Gen Ghulam Mustafa Khan, who ensures the safety and security of the nuclear arsenal by keeping them in dismembered form in dozens of safe locations manned by his troops.
That’s good news, no assembled bombs in one location. Except for the ones on the launch pad, if any.
From the government side, a senior Pakistani official disclosed, Lt-Gen Ehsanul Haq Khan, the head of the ISI and Lt-Gen Khalid Kidwai, the head of the Strategic Planning and Development Cell, again confronted Dr Khan with "reams of evidence on his illegal activities at the KRL" with options either to accept the responsibility of those action or to let the government present the whole situation before the masses. For his part Dr Khan had expressed full trust in the country’s former law minister and senior lawyer Senator SM Zafar, who helped both the government and Dr Khan to reach a mutually agreed formula for an early end of the controversy. The former law minister had represented Dr Khan in the case filed against him for the alleged theft of nuclear technology by the Dutch company, Urenco in early 1980s. The conviction of Dr Khan by a lower court in Holland was reversed by a superior court because of legal shortcomings raised by Zafar in the prosecution’s case.
Khan hired the best lawyer money could buy.
Because of his familiarity with the legal affairs of Pakistan’s nuclear programme, official sources said, President Musharraf had allowed Zafar’s intervention in the matter. "The whole idea was to put water on fire, which was leaping high because of some recent statements attributed to Dr Khan about the military’s knowledge of his activities," said a source close to SM Zafar. "The Zafar formula would allow Dr Khan to live the rest of his life peacefully in Pakistan, while the State would have an assurance that he would refrain from talking on this sensitive subject in future," said an informed official.
He keeps his mouth shut and gets to live out his life in comfort. The government gets to keep it’s secrets, it hopes.
Official sources said that before signing the 12-page confessional statement, Dr Khan had extensively discussed his written admission with SM Zafar, while Makhdoom Ali Khan, the Attorney-General for Pakistan, prepared the actual draft of the confession. An important government source said Dr Khan’s written confession of his nuclear proliferation activities will be made available to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is expected to issue its Iran Report any day during the current month.
Should be interesting reading. Bring your own salt.
These sources said Pakistani investigators have obtained similar signed confessions from Dr Nazir Ahmad, the Director-General, KRL, Dr Muhammad Farooq, a key centrifuge expert and Brig Sajawal, who was associated with the KRL since its inception.
If they did this right, each confession was written in private with the knowledge the other guys were also writing one. Then you crosscheck one against the other.
Five bucks sez they didn't do it right. All the flunkies writing the confessions were in the same room, and probably shared their crayons...
These individuals, Pakistani investigators said, not only revealed the full extent of Dr Khan’s involvement in the proliferation activities, they also testified that the technology was transferred to Iran, Libya and North Korea on the direct instructions of Dr Khan.
With formal approval, or at least a wink, from the government.
Pakistani officials familiar with the investigation against the nuclear scientists said that at no point during the debriefing did Dr Khan challenge the government’s evidence of corruption and other malpractices that included awarding lucrative contracts to his son-in-law Noman Shah and elder brother Abdul Qayum Khan. "He had answers and arguments for most of his actions as the head of the KRL, but nothing for the huge sums of money and real estate that Dr Khan had accumulated all over the world," an official said. "Money was pouring into his accounts since early 1990s but we received the first piece of solid evidence from a Western intelligence service in December, 2000," said a highly informed Pakistani official.
"I mean, we were floored! We'd never noticed, of course..."
Too much money to stuff in his matress, had to use banks that kept records. It’s the old "follow the money" routine.
"At that point President Musharraf was hesitant to give him the benefit of doubt, but he was advised against taking any punitive action by some influential colleagues in the Army."
Who are in it up to their eyebrows.
During his recent debriefing sessions Dr Khan conceded that the December, 2000, information on his foreign accounts received from a Western intelligence service was correct, but only after he was confronted with information gathered from the Sri Lankan middleman who, after his recent arrest in Malaysia, had provided a graphic insight into Dr Qadeer’s activities to the same Western intelligence service late last year.
That would be BSA Tahir, busted for the Libyan centrifuge deal.
Some officials said on Wednesday, though the government wants to close the "Qadeer chapter" as soon as possible, it seemed, that General Musharraf is determined to investigate the charges of financial corruption, raised by Dr AQ Khan during his debriefing, against some retired military officials, who either worked at the KRL or had overseen its activities from the General Headquarters (GHQ).
More details at the link.
I'd guess he'll last about another year before his brakes fail or the helicopter goes down...
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 10:36:18 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, but what about the part where CIA officials get to grill him?

We like the cooperation but that doesn't mean you get a free pass Musharraf.

I bet the beans that Moammar, Saddam, and now Khan are spilling make a great TEXAS Chili.
Posted by: Daniel King || 02/05/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  A few more sheets of paper to add to Baker's briefcase.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#3  KHAAAANNN!!!
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/05/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Stray thought while reading this (Soda alert)...

"Ricin, it's not just for terrorists any more..."
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/05/2004 22:56 Comments || Top||


Pakistan pardons Khan
Pakistani leader Pervez Musharraf has given a presidential pardon to the architect of the nuclear programme.
Tap, tap, nope.
Abdul Qadeer Khan stunned the nation when he confessed on television to leaking nuclear weapons secrets. He cleared the government of any involvement, but critics query how his activities could have gone undetected. The head of the UN’s atomic agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, described Mr Khan’s revelations as just the "tip of the iceberg" of illegal trafficking. The nuclear scientist, a national hero, made his public confession on Wednesday after meeting General Musharraf.
When the deal was made.
Mr Khan told the nation he had acted without authorisation and begged forgiveness.
"I was a baaaaad boy. Forgive me."
General Musharraf announced his final decision following his cabinet’s recommendation to grant clemency to the scientist.
"Ok. Don’t do it again"
Speaking to the BBC, a spokesman for Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry, Masood Khan, denied the decision was lenient, saying Mr Khan had "made a contribution to Pakistan’s nuclear programme".
"And Iran’s, Libya’s, North Korea’s........"
Correspondents say there was huge public opposition to putting him on trial. They say pardoning him avoids the potential embarrassment that could result from a public prosecution - even though it could spark allegations of a cover-up. The BBC’s Jim Fish says experts are deeply sceptical that Mr Khan’s alleged proliferation network could have spread so far without the complicity of some in the government.
Ya think?
Raza Rabbani, a former government minister and acting secretary-general of Benazir Bhutto’s opposition Pakistan People’s Party, demanded more information about Mr Khan’s activities. The secret network may not have been government-sponsored, he said, but "one could say maybe the ambit is slightly larger than a single individual. "That is why the opposition in Pakistan and particularly the People’s Party has been demanding that there be a parliamentary inquiry into this whole episode," he told the BBC.
"There must be something here we can use against Perv."
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 8:47:25 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ok. Don’t do it again
Unless we order you to do it again.
Posted by: Spot || 02/05/2004 8:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Sickening. The man should have hanged.
"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-*urk*!"
Posted by: Dar || 02/05/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd be all for a letter of reprisal with Khan's name on it.
Posted by: 11A5S || 02/05/2004 10:15 Comments || Top||

#4  heh..heh..I guess Kahn's idea of videotaping his confession and sending it out before he could have an "accident" paid off. Personally - I think that, in terms of "plea bargains", the US did very well on this one. Very well indeed!

Am I wrong or right?? Anyone??
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#5  So long as Khan tells us everything he knows Perv will let him live. If he does this again though, he's a dead man.
Posted by: Charles || 02/05/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Nice take B. I'm waiting for more facts to come out. All the who, what, where, how.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#7  I agree with you B that we did very well. The network is exposed and probably down to 10-25% effectiveness. As someone here or elsewhere pointed out, Perv will probably have to give up some Taliban and Al Qaeda types in the NWFP to get US forgiveness. Not final victory, but definitely a battle won.
Posted by: 11A5S || 02/05/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Should have given him at least a short prison term in a boutique prison but maybe they don't have boutique prisons in Pakland.
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 14:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Ok fine they pardon him,so Pakistan want to play the big boy game.So the U.S should say then if any of are cities get nuked by his releasing them secrets then Pakistan becomes a glowing hole.
Posted by: djohn66 || 02/05/2004 14:29 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh gracious.... has it come to this...

What comes out of Chinaman Ass?
Ricin!Ricin!Ricin!
Posted by: Aggie Man || 02/05/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||

#11  *tap tap* My surprise meter's not doing anything either.
Posted by: Korora || 02/05/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||


The Pakistani-North Korean axis
Be aware that the author is a former Indian intelligence officer, but almost everything he has written in previous years about the Pak nuke program has been proven in the last couple weeks.
Pakistan’s arms supply relationship with North Korea dates back to 1971 when the late Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto, the then Foreign Minister under the late Gen. Yahya Khan, visited Pyongyang and sought North Korean arms supplies to strengthen the Pakistani Armed Forces in the face of a looming war with India. Pakistan then did not have diplomatic relations with North Korea. However, the visit led to the signing of an agreement on September 18, 1971, for the supply of North Korean-made conventional weapons to Pakistan. Under the agreement Pakistan received many shipments of items such as rocket launchers, ammunition etc. In the 1980s, Pakistan also acted as an intermediary in facilitating arms supply agreements concluded by Pyongyang with Libya and Iran. During the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, North Korea became a principal supplier of weapons to Iran, which was the target of an arms embargo imposed by the Western countries. To escape detection by the Western intelligence agencies, North Korean arms shipments meant for Iran used to be received by sea at Karachi and from there transported in Pakistani trucks to Iran across Balochistan. Amongst the supplies made by North Korea to Iran via Karachi were over 100 Scud B (known as the Hwasong 5 in North Korea) ballistic missiles and equipment for the assembly, maintenance and ultimate production of these missiles in Iranian territory.

In this transaction, Pakistan played a double game. On the one hand, the then ruling military regime of the late Zia-ul-Haq collaborated with the USA’s Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Iraqi intelligence in destabilisation operations directed at the Sunni Balochis living on the Iranian side of the border. At the same time, it clandestinely allowed the transport by road of North Korean arms and ammunition meant for use by the Iranian Army against the Iraqis. Pakistani army officers were also sent to Libya to help in the training of Libyan Army officers in the use and maintenance of North Korean weaponry.

During the Zia regime, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and its North Korean counterpart collaborated closely for the clandestine acquisition of nuclear and missile-related equipment and technology from the then West Germany and other Western countries. Since North Korea did not have either a presence or the funds and other capability to be able to indulge in clandestine procurement from the West, it gave lists of its requirements to the ISI, which procured them and passed them on. This co-operation between the two countries, the foundation for which was laid by Z. A.Bhutto, was further strengthened during the two tenures of Benazir Bhutto as Prime Minister. It was during this time that Pakistan failed in its efforts to develop an indigenous missile production capability (the Hatf series) and it sought Chinese and North Korean supplies of missiles as well as technology for their production in Pakistan.

Earlier, during the first tenure (1990-93) of Nawaz Sharif as the Prime Minister, Lt.Gen. Javed Nasir, the Director-General of the ISI, visited Pyongyang to sign a secret agreement with the North Korean intelligence for the joint production through reverse engineering of the US-made, shoulder-fired Stinger missiles and their batteries. Some of the missiles in the stock of the Pakistani army were given to the North Korean intelligence for this purpose. Iranian intelligence agreed to fund this project. It is not known whether this project succeeded in producing an imitated version of the Stingers and their batteries. The ISI was particularly interested in the batteries because it was unable to use a large number of Stinger missiles in its stocks since the life-period of the batteries supplied by the USA before 1988 to enable the use of these missiles against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan had expired.

Throughout the 1990s, whoever was at the helm in Islamabad, the trilateral co-operation involving Pakistan, Iran and North Korea in the development and production of the Scud—C (called Hwasong 6 in North Korea) and the No-Dong missiles continued without interruption despite Teheran’s anger against Pakistan for backing the Taliban and for failing to prevent the periodic massacre of Pakistani Shias and Iranian nationals by the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LEJ). The visit of Benazir to Beijing and Pyongyang in December, 1993, was followed by the visits of a number of North Korean personalities to Pakistan in 1994-95 to discuss bilateral nuclear and missile co-operation. Important amongst these visits were:
* During April,1994, Pak Chung-kuk, deputy to the Supreme People’s Assembly, visited Iran and Pakistan at the head of a team of officials of the North Korean Foreign Ministry and the nuclear and missile establishment.

* During September,1994, Choe Hui-chong, Chairman of the State Commission of Science and Technology, visited Pakistan at the head of a team of North Korean nuclear and missile experts.

* During November 1995, a delegation of North Korean military officers and nuclear and missile experts headed by Choe Kwang, Vice Chairman of the National Defense Commission, Minister of the People’s Armed Forces, and Marshal of the Korean People’s Army, visited Pakistan. The delegation met senior officials of the Armed Forces and visited Pakistan’s nuclear and missile establishments, including the KRL. The team included senior officials of the Fourth Machine Industry Bureau of the Second Economic Committee and the Changgwang Sinyong Corporation (also known as the North Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation). During the visit, the KRL and the Changgwang Sinyong Corporation signed an agreement for the supply to Pakistan of the No-Dong missiles as well as fuel tanks and rocket engines. The agreement also provided for the stationing of North Korean missile experts in the KRL for the training of their Pakistani counterparts in the use and maintenance of the missiles supplied by North Korea and for the supply and development of mobile erector launchers for the missiles.
These visits contributed to the speeding up of Pakistan’s missile programme and culminated in the firing of the so-called Ghauri missile by the KRL on April 6, 1998, which was projected by Pakistan as its own indigenously-developed missile. Despite this, the US State Department imposed two-year sanctions against the KRL and the Changgwang Sinyong Corporation on April 24, 1998, which expired on April 23, 2000. The KRL had earlier been the subject of similar sanctions imposed by the State Department in August 1993 for its clandestine procurement of the M-11 missiles from China. Thus, the sanctions imposed on March 24, 2003, are the third against the KRL. These sanctions have had no effect either on Pakistan or North Korea. The KRL and the North Korean Corporation are State-owned entities, run and managed by officers of the Armed Forces of the two countries. Pakistan had used a US-supplied aircraft of its Air Force for transporting the missiles to Pakistan. The missiles and other weapons sent by North Korea to Iran in the 1980s had transited through Pakistani territory, escorted by the Pakistan Army.

North Korean nuclear scientists witnessed Pakistan’s Chagai nuclear tests of May, 1998. Pakistan has been helping North Korea in the development of its uranium enrichment facility. The two countries have been training each other’s nuclear and missile scientists in their respective establishments. Pakistan’s diplomatic mission in Pyongyang is generally headed and staffed by serving or retired army officers, who had previously served in the clandestine nuclear and missile procurement set-up of the ISI. The latest instance in this regard is Maj.Gen. (retd) Fazle Ghafoor.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/05/2004 4:59:55 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Need to keep the Paks booger close, that we might know we they cough.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||


N. Korea’s Islamic credentials?
Snipped from an otherwise dull article
After the disclosure in Iran, Pakistan was no longer able to ignore the issue and its popular nuclear weapons scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan, confessed to selling nuclear know-how to Iran, Libya and North Korea. When asked why, he replied that he thought other Islamic nations should have nuclear weaponry, but appeared somewhat stuck for a reply when he was asked about the Islamic credentials of North Korea.
"The enemy of my enemy..."
Posted by: phil_b || 02/05/2004 2:03:43 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  North Koreans don't eat pork either or shellfish, or fish without scales, or beef, or chicken.....
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe it's about time for Allah to designate yet another last messenger somewhere else. Has Kim Jong Ill been receiving secret visits recently from the angel Gabriel?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Does anyone begin to see a lot of pre emptive strikes for the foreseeable future ? I'm sure the Israelis have.
Posted by: XMAN || 02/05/2004 8:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Shipman - I wonder if tree bark and grass is allowed by the Qurans' dietary guidelines!??
Posted by: Bodyguard || 02/05/2004 9:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Pyongyang, the 265,705th holiest place in Islam.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 9:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe he figured that the level of abject squalor, misery, and hunger, coupled with the tangible fear of torture at the hands of government goons, made them honorary muslims.
Posted by: BH || 02/05/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||


MJC meeting with splinter groups yields no results
The first meeting between the Muttahida Jihad Council (MJC) and activists from banned militant outfits held last week in Islamabad was inconclusive as the activists refused to rejoin their parent organisations, sources told Daily Times. Sources said the meeting lasted about four hours with harsh words exchanged from both sides and the splinters refusing to budge.
"Y'r ugly!"
"Youse gotta funny-lookin' turban!"
"Yer mudder wears combat boots!"
"How'd youse know dat?"
“The MJC leadership tried to persuade the splinters to quit terrorist activities that are damaging Pakistan’s image abroad,” sources said.
And not doing it too much good domestically, we might add...
The meeting was held against the backdrop of the MJC leadership’s assurances to President Pervez Musharraf that it would work with the government to root out terrorism. Sources said splinter groups from militant outfits had rallied with Al Qaeda, Asif Ramazi and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. “Some of the splinters are working under newly-established Jammiat-ul-Mujahidin Al Alamin, whose leader was convicted of planning suicide attacks on the US Consulate in Karachi,” sources added.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/05/2004 12:56:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As God as my witness I will learn to use Youse in a sentence properly.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 18:26 Comments || Top||


Iraq
UPDATE: Pro-al-Sistani group denies reports of attack in Najaf
EFL
The Arabic TV station Al-Jazeera had reported that unidentified gunmen fired on the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani Thursday morning.

Reports of an assassination attempt Thursday against Iraq’s most powerful Shiite Muslim clergyman are untrue, a Shiite group close to the top cleric said. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani was described by associates as being in good health. Bodyguards and political allies told The Associated Press there was no attempt on his life, dismissing Arab media reports.

"We have contacted the office of his eminence, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, in Najaf and it transpired that the report is a lie and the whole issue is fabricated and baseless," the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq said. The council works closely with al-Sistani in promoting Shiite political interests.

An AP reporter who visited the cleric’s house in the southern city of Najaf at midday Thursday saw no sign of extra security or unusual activity.
CNN also reported the attack. Was ist los hier?

Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 7:11:18 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq Cleric Survives Assassination Attempt
Too bad, this guy needs killin’
Iraq’s most powerful Shiite cleric, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani (search), survived an assassination attempt on Thursday. According to a security official who spoke to the news service, gunmen opened fire on al-Sistani’s entourage. "At 10 o’clock this morning, gunmen opened fire on Ayatollah Sistani as he greeted people in Najaf, but he was not hurt," the official told Reuters on condition of anonymity. Al-Sistani has demanded direct elections to choose a provisional assembly to govern Iraq.
I disagree that he needs killing. As far as holy men go, he's the voice of sweet reason. I'm curious as to whether the gunnies are Baathists, Ansar thugs, or Moqtada's boyz. My initial guess would be Moqtada — using gunnies, who can be beaten until they sing or hopped up with giggle juice, or both, is the sort of dumbass move I'd expect from him. But it's probably too dumb even for him, so it'd be Baathists. Ansar would have used an exploding car or a boomer.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 02/05/2004 1:13:01 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  yup, sistani goes down and we're in deep doo-doo. I doubt Al-ansar, both cause of the MO and cause they seem more interested in dramatic booms against foreigners rather than playing local politics. Could be Baathists, but Moqtada probably stronger on the ground in Najaf - his masters in Teheran may be getting nervous with their own problems and the prospect of a UN brokered deal on elections in Iraq.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#2  BTW AP reports that SCIRI and others deny anything happened.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#3  It easily could be Iranians wanting to enrage the Iraqi Shiite community. The Iranians know the Iraqis would play to type, turn their anger (Dire Revenge!!) on the Americans.
Posted by: remote man || 02/05/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Or turn on the Sunnis, causing civil war to break out.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Sistani is on our side. He has issued rulings to the effect that muslim clerics can either be clerics or in government, but cannot be both ( good golly auntie mame! separation of church and state, the horror!)

There is one force that is pushing the iraninan mullah goons down and its an shiite insurgent force lead by Sistani. My candidate for the likely asassins are the Iranians. They have everything to lose if he gets elections this year.
Posted by: Frank Martin || 02/05/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Indeed -- Iranians (and/or Moqtada) would be my guess also.

They'd like to kill Sistani, the way they killed another major pro-democratic cleric (I forget his name) soon after Baghdad fell.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 02/05/2004 18:42 Comments || Top||

#7  I wondered why Sistani was taking marching orders from Iran. All he has to do is play ball and when Iran goes, he's religious head of all.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 02/05/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#8  correct, and thats not bad at all for us because he will provide order and tamp down the natural 'infidel invader crusader' calls after Iran falls.

Whats what happens in two weeks when the elections take place. Think Hungary - 1956. Keep an eye out for Iranian Air Force defections.
Posted by: Frank Martin || 02/05/2004 19:40 Comments || Top||


President Recognizes Chief Wiggles
Fox and Friends this morning cut away to the President’s remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast. I about fell over as he spent two paragraphs talking about Chief Wiggles and the good work this blogger is doing in Iraq. I’m waiting for the White House site to put up the transcript of his remarks.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 02/05/2004 9:52:06 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Time to pull the Chief out. All of this publicity is making him into a target.
Posted by: Patrick Phillips || 02/05/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#2  From the White House Transcript:
Our people in uniform understand the high calling they have answered because they see the nation and the lives they are changing. A guardsman from Utah named Paul Holton has described seeing an Iraqi girl crying and decided then and there to help that child and others like her. By enlisting aid through the Internet, Chief Warrant Officer Holton had arranged the shipment of more than 1,600 aid packages from overseas. Here's how this man defines his own mission: "It is part of our heritage that the benefits of being free, enjoyed by all Americans, were set up by God, intended for all people. Bondage is not of God, and it is not right that any man should be in bondage at any time, in any way." Everyone one in this room can say amen to that. (Applause.)
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 02/05/2004 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The President is recognizing the power of the Blogs!
Posted by: Charles || 02/05/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#4  "The President is recognizing the power of the Blogs!"

IIRC, he's a blogger too. But I forgot the link.
Posted by: Korora || 02/05/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#5  The President blogs? This is something I didn't know...

Anyone have the link?
Posted by: Charles || 02/05/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#6  It's an election site blog. He blogs about as much as Howard Dean does, I suspect, which is to say not at all.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 02/05/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Bumer.I sure woulda checked it out.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/05/2004 17:49 Comments || Top||


S. Korean Troops Volunteer for Iraq Duty
Driven in part by large financial bonuses, about 18,000 South Korean soldiers have volunteered for a mission to help the U.S.-led coalition rebuild Iraq, a military official said Thursday. South Korea has plans to send as many as 3,000 troops to Iraq as early as April in a mission making South Korea the biggest coalition partner after the United States and Britain. Parliament must still approve the dispatch, but all major parties have said they would support it and the military is already preparing by soliciting volunteers and training soldiers as Arabic translators. On Thursday, the military said 18,000 soldiers have already applied for service and that more applicants were expected before Tuesday’s deadline. Volunteers will be winnowed after parliament approves the dispatch. "I think soldiers want to build experience abroad, and especially among young soldiers, there is a willingness to experience something new," army spokesman Col. Ha Doo-chul said.
Like maybe combat?
Ha added that the high salary for Iraq duty is also a motivating factor. A sergeant sent to Iraq can expect monthly pay of $1,100, compared to the $15 he would make back home under mandatory military service.
That would motivate me.
The new dispatch of 3,000 troops to the northern Iraqi oil town of Kirkuk is to include special forces and combat-ready marines. It would come in addition to 460 South Korean military medics and engineers already operating in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 2:44:36 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Korean Marines..... very hard men.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Korean Marines..... very hard men.

Ship, you got that right. There was a fairly large ROKMC unit right down the road from us at Kunsan, and we were forbidden to even think about going near the place. The ROKMCs had a habit of just beating the hell out of people on general principles.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 02/05/2004 9:07 Comments || Top||

#3  US Marines and Korean Marines arriving in Iraq! Lordy, lordy, lordy -- this is going to be interesting. No more nice guys.
Posted by: Highlander || 02/05/2004 10:13 Comments || Top||

#4  ROK Marines! You definitely want these guys on your flanks. Happy hunting boys!
Posted by: Doc8404 || 02/05/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#5  The ROKs were about the only thing the VC truly feared. No joke, some seriously hard boyz.
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#6  ROK MC is good shit. We have a close kinship w/those guys. We don't really care for their Army brethren and most Korean college students are pinkos imho, but the ROK MC are like close cousins to us.
Posted by: Jarhead || 02/05/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Death to all that invade our sacred Islamic land! Wait, did you say Korean Marines? Never mind.
Posted by: Mohamed Bin Buckwheat || 02/05/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Never dealt with the KMC,but I watched some of the ROKArmy train.Hard discipline.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/05/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#9  I nearly died one evening in Vietnam - walked up on a Korean Marine Master Sergeant, and surprised him. My dad taught me to walk through the Louisiana woods in the fall, with all the dry leaves on the ground, without making a sound. I've scared countless people by just moving in a way that's natural for me. MSgt Han was NOT pleased, and I came very close to being broken in half. We became good friends after that - at least for the last four months I was in Nam. This guy was NOT to be messed with - 5'4" tall, about 180, and could out-do any five people I know. NEVER, NEVER kill one of them - the rest will hunt you down and kill you, if it takes a hundred years.

Iraq is going to have to learn on their own, and it won't be pleasant - for them!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/05/2004 23:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Worked with ROK marines on covert landing-practice when I was forward deployed. Middle of winter, rubber boat and nothing but weapons, tennies and fatigues.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Never - and I mean NEVER - gonna forget operating with a ROK Navy tincan off the SKor coast in the winter of 1976. We were part of a US task group there for a wargame, and were doing underway refueling. Good weather, just a little windy and VERY @#%&ING COLD - had to be at least -20 degrees wind chill. The US ships pulled alongside the oiler, pulled the hoses over, took on fuel and got their crews back below decks ASAP. Not the ROKs. Those crazy bastards pulled the inhaul lines over (trotting along the decks in step!), connected, did an emergency breakaway, then shot another approach. Just for the training. They did this at least four times before they took on their fuel. And these were ROK squids, so you can just imagine how tough their Marines are!

Here's a Modest Proposal I've made before...use the ROK Marines in areas the US has had trouble pacifying, such as Karbala. Just announce that the resident US unit is going to move out and be replaced by the ROKs. Clear all media out of the area, move in the ROKs, then wait 6-8 weeks. Move the US unit back to the area, and tell the local hard boyz (or those hard boyz who remain ambulatory) that if they're ready to mellow out and be cooperative, the US unit will return. When they say "By Allah's beard, yes, PLEASE!!, do a turnover and move the ROKs to the next problem area...
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 02/06/2004 1:21 Comments || Top||


"Kurdish 9/11" boosts resolve
Kurdistan’s two main political parties, rivals who had fought long and bloody civil wars for local dominance in the 1990s, were on the cusp of setting old animosities aside when terror returned to Arbil. So it was a bitter irony that twin suicide attacks on Sunday morning - which Kurdish officials say they believe was organized by the Al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Islam - targeted both parties at a time when they are moving at full speed towards closer cooperation. Indeed, officials at the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) believe the two things are linked. "We have so many enemies that don’t want us to be united - they want to keep us weak and divided," says Kakamin Mujar, the Arbil party boss for the KDP. "But this only strengthens our will to work together. We see that we can’t afford to be divided."

Other Kurdish leaders say they believe the attacks, which killed about 100 and injured more than 130, may have been in revenge for what they say was help provided to the US in the capture of suspected Al Qaeda member Hasan Ghul. The Pakistani national was captured in northern Iraq last week. The PUK - driven out of Arbil by a KDP offensive in 1996 with the help of Saddam Hussein - opened party offices here three months ago, and both sides say they’re close to uniting the administration of their region. The two parties have ruled Kurdistan’s two main cities as separate fiefdoms since the mid-1990s, with the KDP controlling the city of Arbil and the PUK in charge of Sulaymaniyah, both parties’ militias being prominent on the streets. The two towns have rival interior ministries, health ministries, and even cultural unions that claim to speak for all Kurds.

The attack puts Iraq’s Kurdish problem back in the news as the US, the United Nations, and Iraqi leaders enter delicate negotiations over the shape of a transitional government that the Bush administration wants to install by the end of June. The Kurds are pressing for a transitional constitution that would enshrine their de facto autonomous status in the north and give them a much bigger share from Iraq’s oil revenue. These moves are viewed with suspicion by Iraq’s dominant ethnic-Arabs as a first step towards Kurdish independence, and tension has been rising between both sides. "We’ve lived free for 12 years - we have had a free press and we can show that democratic institutions can thrive," says Sasan Iwni, a KDP official. "There are people in Iraq who don’t want this to spread."

Rather than the mixed feelings toward the US that prevail in the rest of Iraq - frequently a mixture of gratitude for the removal of Mr. Hussein and anger at the ongoing occupation - most Kurds are unabashedly pro-American. Zamri Malek named his chicken restaurant "Washington" after the US invasion began last spring. "I did it to thank America for setting us free," he says.

Arbil, a city of 600,000 that’s home to about a fifth of Kurdistan’s people, is a city in shock. Militia from the KDP seem to man every other street corner. They flag down and search every car that has nonlocal plates. An aide to a KDP official calls the attacks "the Kurdish Sept. 11," and predicts big changes in the weeks ahead. "Just as things changed in America, we are going to become a lot more aggressive in going after the terrorists in our midst."
I think much of the Kurds' attention has been diverted by the PUK-KDP rivalry. They've made deals with other local groups that they wouldn't have made if they'd been totally secure in their positions — Jamaat Islami/Komala and Kurdistan Islamic Movement spring to mind. Komala should have been destroyed with the Ansar al-Islam base, but they made a deal, for instance. I hope it does fire them up to bring the smaller Islamogroups under control, or maybe even kick them the hell out. And then they can figure what they're really going to do about PKK...
Mr. Iwni was about 10 feet away when the bomb exploded, and was talking with a colleague about their optimism over the KDP and PUK finally putting their old animosities aside. "There are still some differences between the two sides, but we’re working very hard to get together," says Mr. Mujar, a former general in the Peshmerga guerrillas who had fought Hussein’s regime for decades. "The important thing is all Kurds are entirely in agreement for pushing for real federal autonomy with the Governing Council." Mujar says the two most important officials lost from the KDP were Arbil Governor Akram Mintik and Deputy Prime Minister Sami Abdul Rahman. Mr. Rahman was one of the parties’ leading intellectuals, a guerrilla with perfect English who had transformed himself into a suave diplomat. Mujar says both men played key roles in negotiations with the PUK. "We’re an old party and there are people who can take their place, but this is still a very heavy blow."

Others aren’t certain about how easy it will be to recover. The home of Mehdi Hoshnaw, the Arbil deputy governor who some here described as Kurdistan’s leading poet, is filled with mourning women, the men paying their respects at a mosque. Mr. Hoshnaw was killed along with his 28-year-old son Zardesh, a surgeon. "He was a poet of Kurdistan, of our loss and special suffering," says Tollah Hoshnaw, his youngest son, who slept through the party meeting. "This is a land stained with martyrs’ blood, and now his has been added to it."

"I don’t know exactly who did this, but it’s no mistake that it happened when we were so close to finally getting our rights after so many generations of struggle," says Sian Nakashbandi, a civil engineer. "We begin to wonder if we’ll ever live in peace," she says.
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Ansar al-Sunna claims responsibility for Irbil booms
AN Islamist group, Ansar al-Sunna, with alleged links to al-Qaeda, claimed responsibility today for the deadly twin suicide attacks in the northern Iraqi Kurdish city of Arbil, according to an Islamist Internet site.
There was a group called Ansar al-Sunna that announced its formation in a statement faxed to al-Quds al-Araby back in November. Presumably this is the same bunch...
In a statement posted on the site, the group said "two of our martyr brothers attacked the two dens of Satan in Arbil" on Sunday. "Our joy on Eid al-Adha (Feast of the Sacrifice) was boosted by this attack against the agents of Jews and Christians," the statement said. The statement expressed sympathies with the "brothers" of the militant group Ansar al-Islam, which Kurdish political groups have fingered in the attack and which is suspected of links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network.
Sounds like a successor organization to Ansar al-Islam, probably made up more of Zarqawi’s al-Tawhid than Krekar’s Kurdish followers.
It's my guess they're the same bunch as Ansar al-Islam, with a false nose and moustache, or a subgroup within it. It's kinda like the troll who was posting here yesterday, three articles, each under a different name. Some people thought it was more than one guy.
"The Sunnis in Iraq and everywhere in the world have understood that the Crusaders cannot enter the provinces of Kirkuk and Niniveh without the help of the PUK (Patriotic Union of Kurdistan) and the KDP (Kurdistan Democratic Party), run by their agents Jalal Talabani and Massoud Barzani, respectively," it said. The statement was dated February 4 and bore the signature of "Abu Abdullah al-Hassan bin Massud, head of the Ansar Al-Sunna army".
He's probably a squad leader...
"The two agents (Talabani and Barzani) have prepared the way for the American army to occupy the two provinces, despite the fall of the atheist Baath regime ... before handing the two provinces to the Crusaders. That is why we watched for the occasion to avenge the two tyrants, whose hands are stained with the blood of Muslims ... and who coordinated with the Crusaders to strike our Mujahedeen brother group Ansar al-Islam, their women and their children."
"Youse guys better stay away from us them!"
"So we have hit their main offices," added the statement, entitled The Two Conquests of Arbil, using the same terminology as that of bin Laden in reference to the September 11, 2001 terror attacks on New York and Washington. A television station owned by the PUK said today a Yemeni had been arrested in connection with the Arbil bombings, the deadliest attacks in Iraq since the ouster of Saddam Hussein’s regime last April. The suspect was seized in a hotel in the northern oil centre of Kirkuk and explosives were found in his possession, the station said.
I do hope they're thumping him soundly at this very moment...
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#1 
The Sunnis in Iraq and everywhere in the world have understood ... [blah blah blah] ... a Yemeni had been arrested ...

This is not a good time to be an Arab Sunni in Kurdistan.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 7:56 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Malaysia PM’s son in nuclear link
A firm controlled by the son of Malaysia’s prime minister is being investigated for allegedly supplying Libya’s nuclear weapons programme.
Tap....why bother, this meter never works.
Police say foreign intelligence warned them that Malaysian centrifuge parts were on a Libyan-bound ship last year.
That would be the shipment we grabbed.
The parts were reportedly in boxes with the name Scope, a subsidiary of Scomi Group, controlled by Kamaluddin Abdullah, son of PM Abdullah Badawi. Scomi said it had won a contract to ship parts to a customer in Dubai.
It’s a good story, it might even be true.
The Malaysian Government has denied that the country in any way contributed to the spread of nuclear technology.
"Lies, all lies!"
"Investigations so far showed that not one company in Malaysia has the ability to manufacture a complete centrifuge unit," Malaysia’s Inspector General of Police Mohammad Bakri Omar said in a statement.
So you’re saying they used several sub-contractors?
"Because this requires technological capability and high expertise in the field of nuclear weapons," Mr Bakri said.
No, it takes a high quality engineering and fabrication firm capable of following plans and working to very close tolerances. The nuclear weapons stuff comes later.
Analysts say the news of Scomi’s involvement in the probe could be embarrassing to Mr Badawi, who was only appointed prime minister last October.
I’d say so. Of course, it might get you the islamic vote.
Mr Bakri said the tip-off was received by British and US intelligence services in early November. He said the CIA and MI6 claimed the parts had been found a month earlier on board a ship heading to Libya during a stopover in Italy. "The components were said to have been placed in wooden boxes labelled Scomi Precision Engineering Sdn Bhd (Scope).
Like I said, a precision engineering firm.
Scope is a subsidiary of Scomi Group Bhd," said a police statement. Scomi - a medium-sized oil and gas company - said Scope had been awarded a contract to provide tooling services to a Dubai-based firm.
Which Dubai-based firm?
In a statement, the company said it shipped the components in four consignments to Dubai between December 2002 and August 2003.
Bet the August 2003 shipment was the one on the ship and the December 2002 load was found in Libya.
Scomi said the contract had been arranged by BSA Tahir, a Sri Lankan businessman who is currently under investigation in Malaysia. They were not told the "end-use" of the components.
Wonder if they could be used for anything else? Or they were paid enough that they didn’t care.
"The company was recently informed by the Malaysian police that Mr Tahir is currently the subject of an investigation by Malaysian, American and British intelligence authorities over his alleged involvement in the supply of nuclear technology to Libya," said Scomi.
I’m sure he is, down to the DNA level.
A high-level government source noted that any firm knowingly involved in the clandestine nuclear trade was unlikely to label its cargo with its own name.
They might if they were positive they wouldn’t get caught.
Mr Bakri said Mr Tahir was co-operating in the investigation and was not under arrest.
Spilling his guts.
He said the police would issue a statement on the outcome of their investigations once they are completed.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 9:17:32 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr Bakri said the tip-off was received by British and US intelligence services in early November. He said the CIA and MI6 claimed the parts had been found a month earlier on board a ship heading to Libya during a stopover in Italy.

I wonder how much of this has to do with the timing of Libya's decision to cooperate??
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#2  when that the allies attacking malaysia haaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ??????????????
Posted by: zaid hashim || 04/06/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||

#3  when that zaid learning what saying haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh ??????????????
Posted by: .com || 04/06/2004 21:47 Comments || Top||


Malaysia Islamic Party Prohibits Chinese New Yr Celebration
Malaysia’s Islamic party has rejected permission for a major Chinese New Year celebration in a state under its control, criticizing plans for women performers to sing and dance. Organizers vowed Thursday to defy the ban, saying the state government’s refusal to grant a permit challenged traditions of tolerance between the Malay Muslim majority and the large ethnic Chinese minority. The refusal put the state government of Terengganu, controlled by the Pan-Malaysia Islamic Party, on a collision course with the organizers, led by the national Culture, Arts and Tourism Ministry and the state chapters of two ethnic Chinese parties.

Abdul Hadi Awang, chief minister of Terengganu, was quoted as saying by the New Straits Times newspaper that permission had been denied because women would be performing during the time of Muslim evening prayers. "We will not tolerate any activities with female performers dancing and singing, especially when Muslims are supposed to perform the evening prayers," Abdul Hadi was quoted Thursday as saying. "If they insist on holding the program, we will take action against them later," said Abdul Hadi, who is also leader of the Islamic party.
That's falling back on the tactic of demanding that Muslims not be "offended" by non-Muslim actions by dhimmis, of course. It's the next step after the head scarf thing...
But organizers vowed to go ahead with Friday’s celebration with or without a permit and invited state authorities to take the case to court, the national news agency Bernama reported. Culture Minister Abdul Kadir Sheikh Fadzir said the Malaysian constitution guaranteed ethnic minorities the right to hold traditional celebrations without interference. The Islamic party controls two of Malaysia’s 13 states and is gearing up to make more gains in general elections that the government is expected to call in the next few months. Though the party is unlikely to win power at the national level, it could capture another state. The party has vowed to turn this moderate Southeast Asian country into an Islamic state if it forms a national government. The party has tried to impose harsh Islamic laws - including amputating the hands of thieves and stoning adulterers to death - in the states in controls, but has consistently been overruled by the national government.
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#1  Paris should take note.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Damn Abdul lighten up....
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  "Malaysian constitution guaranteed ethnic minorities the right to hold traditional celebrations without interference."

Can anyone say two cheers for multiculturalism???:) The good multiculturalism that protectst different practices, not the bad multiculturalism that gives equal moral weight to tolerance and to death cults.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Considering that Chinese New Year was over two weeks ago, I don't know how timely this is.

The multiculturalism that gives some native-born Malaysians more rights than other native-born Malaysians?

"Apart from the discrimination allowed under the abovesaid Article 153, all citizens of Malaysia must be treated as equal."
--Malaysian Constitution
Posted by: gromky || 02/05/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||

#5  They celebrate Chinese new year for 15 days, the article is timely.
The festival will be on Friday for the last day of the celebration.
Posted by: TS || 02/05/2004 13:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Bring on the hookers then.
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#7  China's watching and they have their own splodydope problem.

If those fanatics were able to impose Islam, I wonder where the Chinese would go, back to China or somewhere more hospitable? Then goodbye Malaysia, another poverty Islamic nation.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 02/05/2004 21:48 Comments || Top||


JI split over terrorist attacks
This looks to be a debate about whether to go the nihilist route through violence in hopes of riding the jihad to revolution or employing a more Hizb-ut-Tahrir methodology to incorporating Indonesia into the caliphate.
An internal split inside the Jemaah Islamiyah terror group has given rise to a radical fringe intent on stirring religious hatred inside the world’s largest Muslim nation - providing fertile ground and potential recruits for al-Qaeda. The ICG report said that within the organisation’s Indonesian chapter, most members no longer favour high-profile attacks against Western targets, preferring instead to focus on a long-term strategy of setting up an Islamic state by 2025 through religious indoctrination and building up a base throughout the country. "Jemaah Islamiyah’s majority faction, however, will continue to constitute a longer-term threat to Indonesia," the document warned. "This is (because) the religious indoctrination and recruitment efforts they are engaged in are likely to produce at least some cadres more hotheaded than their teachers, who look beyond Indonesia to a more international agenda." It said radicals impatient with the majority’s long-term strategy have set up militia gangs in the district of Poso, in central Sulawesi, which have already carried out small-scale attacks against the Christian minority there in an apparent attempt to re-ignite a religious war.
That seems to be the strategy in southern Thailand as well ...
"It remains important to keep the threat of terrorism in perspective - Indonesia is not about to be overrun by jihadists," said Sidney Jones, who heads the International Crisis Group’s office in Jakarta. "They remain the radical fringe of a radical fringe. Their capacity to do damage, however, continues to be cause for serious concern," she said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:42:47 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "They remain the radical fringe of a radical fringe"

i.e.The worst of the worst.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/05/2004 7:09 Comments || Top||


Filippino coast guard busts Pakistani
Now ain’t he a long way from home ...
The Philippines has detained a Pakistani national as a terror suspect after stopping his second attempt to cross the country’s southern maritime border with Malaysia, the Coast Guard said on Wednesday. Muhammad Mubashir Khan, 25, was arrested on Monday as he stepped from a boat onto a wharf in Mapun, a small and remote island, the Coast Guard said. It was his second attempt to enter the Philippines from the eastern Malaysian state of Sabah.
"Hi, there, Moh! Back again, I see! Stick 'em up! You know the drill..."
"We’re still investigating," said Lieutenant Armand Balilo, the Coast Guard spokesman. "It’s too soon to say whether he belongs to an Islamic militant group. We want to make sure."
"Instead of 99 percent sure, like we are now..."
Balilo said foreign nationals entering the country’s southern backdoor are considered "high risk" by the Bureau of Immigration and could be linked with international terror groups.
Well, if the shoe fits ...
Khan was first stopped by Coast Guard personnel on a boat en route to the port of Zamboanga City from Sandakan in Sabah on January 7. Before he was deported to Malaysia, Khan showed a letter from a Filipino girlfriend inviting him for a visit in Cavite, a province in the northern island of Luzon.
"Yeah! I ain't no terrorist! I'm just horny!"
"Oh, yeah? Are you happy to see us or is that a bomb in your pocket?"
Balilo said officials were also looking into reports the Pakistani visited other areas in the southern Philippines last month.
Like the MILF camps in Mindanao, mayhaps?
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:38:04 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's a shame he couldn't have fallen out of their cutter into the waiting hands of some SEALs in an SBS. Why didn't they take him out to international waters and throw him out to us last month? I'm very leery of whether the flips are playing ball or not.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 10:29 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Asshat claims wife died on 9/11, much to her surprise
Looks like the casualty total needs to be adjusted downward by one. Hat tip: Drudge. Edited for brevity.
The September 11th terrorist attacks killed many, many people. And, in a way, they took the life of a Brevard County woman who wasn’t even there. This is a story of 9-11 fraud and deceit and someone trying to cheat the system. "It’s great, Florida in the sunshine. We’ve been very, very, very happy," says Donna Laskowski. For Donna and her two sons, life was finally on the right track. They moved to Florida to get away and hide from an abusive father and ex-husband. Even years later, the boys don’t want their faces shown. All was fine, until son Stephen got a strange phone call. The message was from Stephen’s father and said the family had come into a large sum of money. Confused by the message, Stephen called his father back and, during the conversation, heard the name of the family’s old insurance agent in Pennsylvania. So, Donna decided to call that office to find out what was going on. She got the receptionist. "’Oh dear, God. My God. Oh God, Donna,’ she said, ’You’re alive,’" explains Laskowski. "[She said,] ’I don’t believe you’re alive. Oh my God, your husband was here and said you were dead.’"

Stephen Laskowski, Sr. had claimed Donna was working on the 12th floor of one of the towers of the World Trade Center when it came crashing down. He had turned in paperwork requesting more than a million dollars from the 9/11 Victim’s Compensation Fund, just a week before the cut-off. Donna’s name was even listed on the victim’s compensation website as a victim. But what he did didn’t surprise Donna. The family says, when they left behind their home in New Kensington, Pennsylvania, they also left behind a conman, a dangerous, but bright, individual who was always looking for new ways to interfere in their lives.

Channel 9 reporter Scott Thuman tracked down Stephen Laskowski, Sr. at his Pennsylvania home. "Yes, my wife, Donna Lee Laskowski, died in the World Trade Center [on] September 11th," he said. "See, what I have a hard time understanding is, I interviewed your wife last week," Thuman informed him. "You did? Where?" asked Laskowski, Sr. "You understand these papers that you filed with the government claim that she died in the towers. Your wife told me she never has been to New York, never been to the World Trade Center," Thuman said. "You sure you’re talking about the right Donna Lee Laskowski?" he asked. "Yes," Thuman replied. To which Laskowski, Sr. said, "Well that changes everything, doesn’t it?"
No, not really. You’re still an a**hole.
Posted by: Dar || 02/05/2004 8:57:29 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  May he become real 'intimate' with his new 'partner' called Bubba (to his friends) down at the Federal Prison....

People like this (as well as the NY times which is also grabbing some of the funds) really make me sick.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 21:55 Comments || Top||

#2  "We're glad to hear that your wife is alive, sir. Unfortunately, the numbers are not allowed to change." said the government official as he took out the knife.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/05/2004 22:39 Comments || Top||


Middle East
‘Crackdown on Militants Awaits Israeli Pullout’
A comprehensive crackdown on armed factions can only take place when Israel pulls out of the occupied territories, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat’s national security advisor said yesterday.
Hey! Lucky you! Sharon was just saying he was going to do that...
Israel has consistently accused the Palestinians of failing their commitments in the roadkill roadmap peace plan by not stopping attacks by hard-line groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad, demanding a dismantling of the “terrorist infrastructure.” But Jibril Al-Rajoub, who was tasked by Arafat in the summer to revamp the security services, said that while the Palestinian Authority (PA) was committed to the rule of law, its hands were partly tied by the continued presence of the Israeli Army in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
He sez stuff like that and it makes stuff squirt out my nose. It's really nasty, especially when I'm not drinking anything...
“The PA is committed to the reforms of the security services and to restore the rule of law,” he told members of the Foreign Press Association at a briefing here.
"Yup. Yup. It's our fondest dream. Trust me on this..."
But prompted about the prospects of a crackdown on militant groups, he said, “We can’t make order and restore the rule of law without Israeli cooperation.”
"We can do it, but not while they're lookin'..."
Palestinian Premier Ahmed Qurei failed to persuade groups such as Hamas to agree to a new truce or even a pledge to halt attacks on civilians in Israel at talks in Egypt last December. “As soon as there is an Israeli withdrawal we have the solutions and capabilities to restore law and order but not as long as Israel continues its invasions and policy of assassinations,” Rajoub said.
Ummm... But the invasions and assassinations occur in response to Paleostinian atrocities... But that's cause and effect... Never mind.
“As soon as Sharon recognizes the West Bank and Gaza Strip (as Palestinian territory) and the creation of an independent Palestinian state with east Jerusalem as its capital, we will deal with such individuals” behind the attacks.
"Yup. We got a list. Soon's them Zionists are gone, boy are they gonna get it!"
Rajoub said that groups such as Hamas had shown signs of softening their traditional position which rejects Israel’s right to exist. “There have been positive hints from Hamas (spiritual) leader Ahmed Yassin recognizing that Hamas may accept a Palestinian state within the ‘67 borders,” he said, referring to the 1967 war when Israel seized the West Bank and Gaza. “There is a consensus among the Palestinian people and Palestinian factions that the way to achieve peace and stability is to recognize Israel’s right to exist. Even the (Islamic) fundamentalist groups started recognizing that issue and are taking a pragmatic view.”
"We'll recognize their right to exist until we have enough ammunition to blow them away!"
Rajoub expressed skepticism over the motives behind Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s announcement that he planned to evacuate all Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip as part of a larger package of unilateral measures. “The question is whether such unilateral initiatives (are designed) to circumvent regional and international pressures against him,” he said. “I hope Sharon is not bluffing us and bypassing the implementation of the roadmap.”
Jibril? I think Sharon's written you off. He's building a wall around you to keep your insanity confined, and pulling Israelis out of range. Then you can stew in your own Islamic juices.
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#1  Brahahaha.... Did you hear the one about Al-Qaeda killing hundreds of thousands in December, no it was Jan 2nd, no Feb 2nd, no Feb 4th, no......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#2  a classic, Master Fred
Posted by: Frank G || 02/05/2004 23:51 Comments || Top||

#3  what's worse? That they spout this crap thinking we'll buy into it? Or that some of our dimmer bulbs in academia and media circles actually do buy it?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/05/2004 23:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds to me like they are getting scared. Just like a brat spoiled child, who loves to hate his parents, suddenly gets a clue when he realizes, this time, there will be "no more next time" when his parents say, "we're cutting you off and you have 30 days to find a new place".

I guess they are starting to look at where all the jobs come from and the reality is starting to set in. As my mother used to say, "you made your bed, now go lie in it".
Posted by: B || 02/06/2004 9:30 Comments || Top||


Report: Hamas terrorist killed in Gaza explosion
JPost - Reg req’d
Hamas military wing commander in refugee camp near Gaza City was killed Thursday night in an explosion inside his home, Yediot Ahronot’s website reported. The terrorist was identified by Hamas officials as Abdel Naser Abu Shuka, 36, Reuters reported. Shuka reportedly died after receiving an ’explosive package’. According to Reuters, witnesses spotted Israeli helicopters hovering over Bureij refugee camp on Thursday shortly after the blast killed Shuka. An IDF military source told the news agency that the army suspected that Abu Shuka died in an accident while preparing an explosive.
Dontcha love when that happens? Red wire, Black wire, BOOM!
Posted by: Frank G || 02/05/2004 6:33:59 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AFLAC!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 02/05/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||

#2  spin it either way and it's still not a difficult concept... cause=>effect
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 19:49 Comments || Top||

#3  "No raisins for you!!!"
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 02/05/2004 23:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Y'all just don't get it. Israel has learned that Semtex, the explosive of choice for Paleodopes, will spontaneously explode when vibrated at a given frequency. The IDF then just flies around in their helicopters, broadcasting this VLF sound, and "BOOOM". They mark the spot on the map, look up the address on their rolodex, and red-X another "Palestinian" leader.

Hell, it's as good as any of the moonbat's explanations, and if the splodeydopes read this, it'll make them very, very nervous about EVERYTHING. And that's a good thing. 8^)
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/05/2004 23:27 Comments || Top||


More Paleo skirmishes
Dahlan supporters attack police chief in Gaza, 13 hurt
Supporters of Mohammed Dahlan, the former minister in charge of the Palestinian security service
Supporter of Abu Mazen, fell when Abu Mazen quit
on Thursday attacked Gaza Strip police chief Major General Ghazi al-Jabali and wounded 13 Palestinian policemen and passersby, two of them seriously.
"Couldnt you have just slapped me? "
Jabali, the senior security appointee of Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, suffered light injuries.
"Hey, this isnt supposed to happen when you play on Yasser’s side!"
Palestinian sources said the attackers burst into Gaza’s police headquarters, got past Jabali’s ineffectivebodyguards, and beat him. The attackers then fled the building, with the help of gunmen who fired at Jabali’s police officers. Several policemen were injured during the exchange of fire and some cars were damaged. Palestinian security sources denied reports that the attack was an assassination attempt, describing it as merely a scuffle that erupted in Jabali’s office.
"Nothing to see, keep moving"
This was not the first incident between Palestinian security officials and Dahlan’s supporters. Dahlan is careful not to dishonor Arafat,
Like being careful not to dampen the ocean
but at the same time there is a fierce struggle between Dahlan and Arafat’s supporters in Gaza. Three months ago an anti-tank missile was fired at the home of the head of military intelligence, Mussa Arafat, the PA chairman’s nephew.
sadly, it seems it missed.
Jabali, who is very close to Arafat, was fired by Arafat in the spring of 2002 after being accused of corruption. He was re-appointed two months ago. The return of Jabali, a charismatic figure, is considered a threat to Dahlan’s status in the Strip.
Gaza is Dahlan's old base of support, but also an area of Hamas strength. Arafat is relatively weak there. So any figure who can help him there, like Jabali, is welcome to him. So naturally Dahlan wants to take him out. Why now??? Anything to do with Sharon's offer to depart Gaza?? Perhaps instigating this sort of thing is just what Arik has in mind?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 3:28:01 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's a Keystone cops air to many things the Paleos do. You can't help but snigger when you hear some of the half-assed things they get up to.

Then you hear about another baby killed in a cot or a splodeydope splattering real human beings to bits and it's not funny any more.

I think we're only going to see more of this stuff happening up until the fence is finished, then the Paleos will start to rip each other up.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 02/05/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#2  BBC has a report which doesnt mention Dahlan. Some Pals say it WAS an assasination attempt on Jabali by members of "gangs" others say it was a dispute WITHIN the security forces that got out of hand.

From the Haaretz description it was a fairly professional raid, even if it failed in its purpose (but maybe killing Jabali wasn't its real purpose) This is rather embarassing, and they seem to be having trouble getting their story straight.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Jabali, who is very close to Arafat, was fired by Arafat in the spring of 2002 after being accused of corruption.

This is priceless. Arafat fired this guy for corruption. What, he wasn't doing it right?

I think the infighting is only going to increase as Hamas and Hezbollah gain strength in the area, the wall squeezed the PA and funds dry up. This is gonna get more nasty before it gets less nasty. Can't wait.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 02/05/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#4  I agree. You have Ham-ass who are addicted to murder and cannot get to their favorite targets (innocent Israeli's) anymore but they have to have their 'hit' -- so they will go after their own people.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Major PR points if your people can waltz into rival's HQ,bitch-slap him some,then waltz on out.Since no one was killed,don't have to worry about Arafat demanding some humiliating apology.In a "face" oriented culture,Dahlan just scored some major coup.(Free multi-cultural referrences for those on the left.)
Posted by: Stephen || 02/05/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Shots fired and 13 injured, no kills? Amateurs, how do they expect to win any kind of skirmish with that kind of marksmanship?
Posted by: Brainiac || 02/05/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||


International
Opec ministers in a quandary over quotas
it’s All About The Oil (Income)
Faced with an expected seasonal drop in demand but continued strong oil prices, the Opec cartel is in a quandary over whether to change the amount of oil it supplies the market. Energy ministers from the 11-member Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, which produces nearly 40 per cent of the world’s oil, have sent mixed messages about whether they will maintain their output quota of 24.5m barrels of oil a day, or reduce it to head off a slide in prices as the winter ends and demand falls in the northern hemisphere. They will meet on Tuesday in Algiers to discuss the issue.

Many Opec members are producing more than the 24.5m barrels as US benchmark oil prices remain above $30. The preferred $22-28 band for the price of Opec oil has long been surpassed, even though Ali Naimi, Saudi Arabia’s energy minister, recently insisted the range was still valid. "In Opec in general and Saudi Arabia in particular we would like to see prices between $22 and $28, as near as possible to $25, and to stay there. That is a goal," he said at the World Economic Forum in Davos last month. Low inventories in the US and other major consuming countries and a colder than expected winter in the US and Europe, as well as Iraq’s delay in fully re-entering the market have helped to keep prices high.

But the International Energy Agency, the consumer watchdog group, expects demand to plunge in the second quarter. Petroleum Intelligence Weekly expects demand for Opec oil to be 4.3m b/d below its estimates of Opec output, highlighting the reason ministers are considering a cut, despite current high prices.
Cartels are unnatural beasts. There is always incentive for someone to go outside the agreement in order to make an extra buck or two.
John Waterlow, analyst at Wood Mackenzie, said: "This is a pretty critical time of the year. Everyone expected and they expected to have to cut come this spring because that is what they would normally have to do." But a cut could push up oil prices, which would anger Opec’s customers and may risk slowing US and Chinese growth. Jim Placke, a senior associate with Cambridge Energy Research Associates, pointed out that with questions about the future growth of Russian oil exports threatened by Moscow’s intervention in the sector, the global oil industry was "a little bit stretched right now". Though Opec’s surprise cut last year has made observers wary of making predictions about forthcoming meetings, Mr Placke said: "The easiest thing to do is always to do nothing."
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 2:25:03 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In a quandry over quotas? Querrulos, instead of quiescent? Query: is it a quality-control quandry, or the quashing of dissent, or just a quiet riot? Questions abound.
Posted by: Mike || 02/05/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Quit that.
Posted by: BH || 02/05/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL. See I'm normal. In the sense that in the Rantburg community I'm only 1 SD away from the mean and awful.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Just a Question. We hear that these guys are very anti-Bush. Don't know if it is true or not.

But wouldn't jacking oil prices affect the US Economy and thus the election?
Posted by: Penguin || 02/05/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#5  It would if they could be SURE everyone would toe the line. But if someone dropped prices a little below the high level, they'd sell more than their quota. This is the dilemna of a cartel ... may their beards get pulled out in frustration. ;-)
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#6  It would if they could be SURE everyone would toe the line. But if someone dropped prices a little below the high level, they'd sell more than their quota. This is the dilemna of a cartel ... may their beards get pulled out in frustration. ;-)
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#7  It would if they could be SURE everyone would toe the line. But if someone dropped prices a little below the high level, they'd sell more than their quota. This is the dilemna of a cartel ... may their beards get pulled out in frustration. ;-)
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 18:34 Comments || Top||


Africa: Central
ICC To Probe Kony
Yeah, this’ll work.
A prominent American lawyer has been appointed to probe LRA rebel leader Joseph Kony’s alleged crimes against humanity, the Wall Street Journal newspaper reported yesterday.
alleged????
The International Criminal Court (ICC) appointed Ms Christine Chung, a Harvard-trained lawyer who has prosecuted street gangs, mob bosses and boxing promoter Don King during a 12-year career at the U.S. attorney’s office in New York.
Any convictions?
Chung, 39, has no prior experience with war crimes or international tribunals. However, ICC Prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, said the former U.S. federal prosecutor was the best-qualified applicant.
"She’s a woman and a minority, we get to fill two squares on our EO checklist."
Her former boss, US Deputy Attorney General James Comey, described her as "a brilliant lawyer and a great prosecutor who will serve any tribunal well."
Just how much time did Don King do, again?
Moreno-Ocampo and President Museveni said in London recently that Uganda had referred Kony’s case to the ICC, starting a process that could see the rebel leader tried before the permanent war-crimes tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands.
First you have to catch him. While you’re catching him, just shoot him and save the court costs.
The US State Department describes the Lord’s Resistance Army as a terrorist group seeking to impose "a regime that will implement the group’s brand of Christianity."
Yoo hoo, Mr State Department! Any comments on regimes that will implement the group’s brand of Islam? Hey, get back here!
The minister of state for the rehabilitation of Northern Uganda, Ms Grace Akello, is currently collecting evidence in the north, which could possibly be used to indict Kony.
I guess Grace needs a job. Kony will die of old age before the ICC gets around to him.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 1:04:43 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Alleged" is right.Now that the matter is up with the ICC,the man is to be considered innocent until proven guilty.The big problem with prosecuting war criminals like Kony and Slobo is that these guys - if they are smart - don't necessarily leave a paper trail,or first-hand witnesses.That way,they can always wash their hands and blame 'rogue underlings' for any unpleasant occurrences.

How is Slobo doing,by the way?
Posted by: El Id || 02/05/2004 14:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh boy some Christian Radicals.....Watch out Abdul....
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Remarks as prepared for delivery by CIA Director Tenet
Here are opening lines from Tenet’s speech at Georgetown U. this AM. Click on the headline to read the whole thing. I don’t want to excerpt it because he builds his case and chooses his language very carefully. We all have a stake in what happens (or not) in the CIA so it’s worth the effort to read it and think about whether we agree or not ...
I have come here today to talk to you—and to the American people—about something important to our nation and central to our future: how the United States intelligence community evaluated Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs over the past decade, leading to a National Intelligence Estimate in October of 2002. I want to tell you about our information and how we reached our judgments. I will tell you what I think—honestly and directly.

There are several reasons to do this. Because the American people deserve to know. Because intelligence has never been more important to the security of our country.

As a nation, we have over the past seven years been rebuilding our intelligence—with powerful capabilities—that many thought we would no longer need after the end of the Cold War. We have been rebuilding our Clandestine Service, our satellite and other technical collection, our analytic depth and expertise.

Both here and around the world, the men and women of American intelligence are performing courageously—often brilliantly—to support our military, to stop terrorism, and to break up networks of proliferation. The risks are always high. Success and perfect outcomes never guaranteed. But there is one unassailable fact—we will always call it as we see it. Our professional ethic demands no less.

To understand a difficult topic like Iraq takes patience and care. Unfortunately, you rarely hear a patient, careful— or thoughtful—discussion of intelligence these days. But these times demand it. Because the alternative—politicized, haphazard evaluation, without the benefit of time and facts—may well result in an intelligence community that is damaged, and a country that is more at risk.

Before talking about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, I want to set the stage with a few words about intelligence collection and analysis—how they actually happen in the real world. This context is completely missing from the current public debate.

By definition, intelligence deals with the unclear, the unknown, the deliberately hidden. What the enemies of the United States hope to deny, we work to reveal.

The question being asked about Iraq in the starkest of terms is: were we “right” or were we “wrong.” In the intelligence business, you are almost never completely wrong or completely right. That applies in full to the question of Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction. And, like many of the toughest intelligence challenges, when the facts on Iraq are all in, we will be neither completely right nor completely wrong.

As intelligence professionals, we go where the information takes us. We fear no fact or finding, whether it bears us out or not. Because we work for high goals—the protection of the American people—we must be judged by high standards.

Let’s turn to Iraq....
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 1:01:24 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pop by CNN Headline News and register your vote in their dipshit poll which disingenuously asks if, after what Tenet has said about the intelligence situation, "Should the US have gone to war in Iraq?"

Wotta buncha maroon moonbats. It's time to start making a mockery of their polling mockery.

RB Contest. Complete this statement:
CNN sucks so much that...
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#2  CNN sucks so much that...

Cygnus X-1 quit out of jealousy.

Monica is considering suing.

Clinton keeps trying to get into their offices.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/05/2004 14:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Having read his whole speech, George did about as well as expected given the circumstances. Even though he gave it his best shot in explaining his and CIA's actions leading to the NIE, I still think he ought to resign.

In any case, when this speech is regurgitated by the pundits, it is worth noting that any politicizing the Iraq WMD problem to make Bush/Cheney look bad can come back and bite the Dems if they ever get back in WH. How credible would a Dem foreign policy towards Iran or NK if it is based on CIA-provided intel? Eleanor Clift said on the McLaughlin report this weekend that a generation would have to pass before any other country would believe US intel (Of course she was grinning when she said it)
Posted by: Michael || 02/05/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#4  I nominate Kay for CIA.
Posted by: eLarson || 02/05/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Cygnus X-1 quit out of jealousy.
heh,,, heheh,,,
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||


Africa: East
One in Five Ugandan Soldiers Ain’t
Lt. Gen. David Tinyefuza’s committee has discovered more than 10,000 ghost soldiers in the Uganda Peoples Defence Forces.
This could explain why the LRA keeps getting away.
A transcript from the committee’s meetings, a copy of which The Monitor has obtained, shows that the practice of creating ghost soldiers for the benefit of a few is widespread in the military. "Evidence gathered so far indicates that ghost soldiers exist in most units/formations of the UPDF," the transcript reads. "The personal file returns [to the Chief of Personnel and Administration and the Director of Records] from most of the units except [3 and 53 battalions] indicates a difference between a payable strength of 55,588 and file returns from 45,497 soldiers amounting to 10,091 people," says the report. These figures mean that almost one in five soldiers in the UPDF is a ghost. However, a source familiar with the committee’s proceedings told The Monitor that these figures could "even rise higher" once the committee goes out into the field to verify numbers through head counts.
This is how the custom of troops passing in review started, so the ruler could count heads.
In the documents, the committee members outline the ways in which senior army officials create ghost, or non-existent soldiers, and keep the money meant for their salaries. "Various tricks are being used to ensure ghost creation," the Tinyefuza committee report says. "They are encouraged by mainly senior officers holding important positions of leadership and command e.g. commandants, adjutants and [paymasters]."
In order to pull it off, everyone has to be on the take.
According to the documents, most of the ghost soldiers are created within auxiliary forces mobilised to fight alongside the army. These auxiliary forces include the Amuka and Arrow Boys militias in the northern and eastern regions, the Anti-Stock Theft Unit in Karamoja as well as local defence units, especially in operation areas.
especially in operation areas- where the rear area bean counters don’t want to go.
The Tinyefuza committee report also details cases of indiscipline in the army, especially among ranking officers -including defiance of the President, who is the commander-in-chief. "The evidence collected so far has gone a long way in exposing the malaise of ghosts and problems of indiscipline, cliques, by-passing of chain of command, creation of semi-autonomous units and interpersonal conflicts, which have all affected the performance and cohesion of UPDF," the report says. Committee members are expected to visit 2, 3, 4 and 5 divisions to verify the information it has received about the ghost soldiers.
"We’re here to inspect the 4th division."
"That would be Bob, he’s over there."

Several senior officers have been charged in the court martial with creating or benefiting from the ghost-soldier scam.
So I guess that when we read this story:
Magezi identified the aides as Lieutenant Okure and Lt. Okot who were killed by the 45th and 77th infantry battalion.
Fred: "Surely he means "people from" the two battalions?"

I’d say that there’s a good chance that they were killed by the entire 45th and 77th infantry. All two of them.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 12:47:11 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Literally, the UPDF can't stand muster.
Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like the French army at roll call for action.
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Supply Sargeants are the same everywhere.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:28 Comments || Top||

#4  HAH! Meet the original reason for Regimental musters. To make sure the troops actually exist.
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Ghost soldiers? Sounds like The Return of the King. Somehow, I doubt that these Ugandan troops could scare many people, though.
Posted by: Tibor || 02/05/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Commentary: Some Soldiers missed Super Bowl
By Lt. Col. Andrew Straw
At kickoff, I was touching up the shine on my combat boots. I thought of calling my wife in Charlotte, N.C., but she had already gone across town to a Super Bowl party. As I left Washington for the drive to the airfield, the first half was winding down and the score was still 0-0. I couldn’t find the game on the car radio and forgot about football for the next 30 minutes. I arrived at Davison Army Airfield to find the eight young Soldiers from the Honor Guard, also dressed in camouflage fatigues, sprawled out in the small passenger lounge. They were ogling the halftime show on TV and wisecracking back and forth just like thousands of other groups of young guys across the country at that moment. I learned that the score was 14-10, Panthers behind. The general arrived five minutes later, just as the pilot stepped in to say the aircraft was ready. Anita called from Charlotte on my cell just as I was walking out the door—“Can’t talk, gotta go.” On the TV behind me, play was just beginning for the second half.

The ten of us followed a sergeant through the darkness from the near-deserted terminal to the waiting helicopter. As we carefully tiptoed across patches of ice on the apron, one of the Honor Guard soldiers whispered something about Janet Jackson. Another Soldier beamed with adventure as he climbed in, “It reminds me of the first time I rode a tractor!” I was beaming too. It would be my first ride on an Army Blackhawk. I was warned in advance that Black Hawks had no heaters, and had bundled up with two layers beneath my uniform. The night was clear. We flew to Delaware at low altitude over beautiful snow-covered scenery. We landed at Dover Air Force Base 45 minutes later, and parked near a huge C-141 cargo plane with Air Force Reserve markings. The rear doors and ramp were open, and light spilled from the huge cargo bay.

I followed the general as he was quickly ushered into a small, neat passenger lounge. Coffee? Water? The game was on TV; the score was 22-21. A half dozen others in various uniforms were waiting. I introduced myself to a major from New York City -- a forensic dentist in the Army Reserve, called up to help out for a 30-day tour. A Methodist minister serving as an Air Force chaplain bragged about the support his wife gives him while he is recalled to active duty. While the general got a briefing on the mission details, an Air Force colonel gathered the rest of us together, and we marched out to the C-141. I followed him up the ladder into the cargo bay. It was empty except for the three oblong boxes in a perfect row down the center. Two loadmasters were adjusting the ramp in the rear of the aircraft, and several others were carefully arranging U.S. flags over each of the boxes. A congenial major explained the proceedings to follow the way a priest leads a family through a wedding rehearsal.

I line up with the flight crew along the fuselage, facing the caskets. Attention! The Honor Guard marches in silently; wearing white gloves with their camouflage uniforms now. The General marches up the ramp with the Air Force wing commander, a colonel. The chaplain says a prayer with all the right words: fallen warriors
the Army family
selfless service
the price of freedom. Nobody is thinking about football. Nobody. The young Soldiers from the Old Guard are standing smartly, solemnly, expressionless. No slouching or snickers now, only the serious task at hand. Ready
Down! Ready
Up! Ready
Face! Forward
March! They move to the measured commands with astounding precision.

In the cold dark night, there are fewer than two dozen of us present. No outsiders are watching, but those young men give a TV-quality performance, as if their burden was a fallen president. Present Arms! We salute as the first remains are marched off the plane under the watchful gaze of the general. He salutes. We do it again for the second set and the third. The unmarked, clean, white truck then drives off very slowly with its red, white, and blue-draped cargo. The Honor Detail marches behind it. The General dismisses us.

Back in the small lounge, the game is still on, eight seconds left. I watch the unfolding excitement numbly.

Welcome home, fallen sergeant, corporal, and private first class.

You missed the Super Bowl. The Patriots won.

Thank you.

(Editor’s note: Sgt. Eliu Miersandoval, 27, Cpl. Juan Cabralbanuelos, 25, and Pfc. Holly McGeogh, 19, of the Army’s 4th Infantry Division, died Jan. 31 in Kirkuk, Iraq, when their vehicle hit an improvised explosive device during convoy operations. Lt. Col. Andrew Straw is an Army Reserve officer from Charlotte. He has been serving on active duty at the Pentagon with the Army’s G3 since October 2002.)
Posted by: rkb || 02/05/2004 12:40:14 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Middle East
Arafat aide accuses U.S. of ’blackmail’
EFL
Excerpts from Wash Times version of the previous AP post...
Yasser Arafat’s security chief in the West Bank yesterday accused the United States of "blackmail," citing its threat to suspend peace efforts until Palestinians arrest those behind the slaying of three U.S. officials in the Gaza Strip last year.
"huh? you mean the PA isn’t free to kill diplomats?"
*Money Quote Alert*
"The Americans are pressuring everybody, even some Arab countries, not to pay the Palestinian people," Mr. Rajoub said.
someone please tell me, what the HELL have the "palestinian people" been doing to earn a check? they must have us confused with saddam, we don’t pay parents to wrap their kids in c4 and blow up jooos
The Palestinian Authority, whose facilities have been depleted by repeated Israeli demolitions,
(running out of bullets and explosives, maybe it’s time for another telethon)
receives 60 percent of its annual budget in assistance from Arab countries and the European Union. A cutoff in foreign aid is likely to cause the body to collapse.
*SNIP* blah blah, more seething and whining by this mutt; I can’t believe these parasites think they’re entitled to a handout; where do they think they are, San Francisco? it appears Cause and Effect will never penetrate their skulls
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 12:30:06 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If this be blackmail, then more! More!

It's about time.

But Israel, puhleeze, don't stop whacking the Paleo terrorist leaders! More of that too, please!

Yumm. Just like Lay's potato chips.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#2  A cutoff in foreign aid is likely to cause the body to collapse. OK. So now tell me the bad news.
Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||


Deck of cards...
Ace Pilots has included Rantburg on their "52 most dangerous right wing bloggers" deck of cards. We're only the three of clubs, though. Have to work on that, though clubs does seem appropriate...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/05/2004 10:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Excellent deception measures Fred, keep it up.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  congratulations.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Ace Pilots, heh. RB is dangerous to twits! Cool runnings, Fred. 8^>
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Wot? We've already nuked the Soddies fifty times over. How much more dangerous can we get?
Posted by: Matt || 02/05/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Clearly there is room for improvement. :)
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Thanks for the mention.

While other bloggers in the Deck have suggested they merited a higher card, none have been more justified than Rantburg. My apologies.

Did you see the Blogosphere map I did in late November? Maybe in a couple months, I'll do something else along these lines, and will be sure to give Rantburg due prominence.
Posted by: The Commissar || 02/05/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#7  If people would stop posting articles and return to ABC and friends for their news "on the half hour" and if people would quit posting comments that clarify, name names, call a spade a spade, then Rantburg could just die on the vine.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes! Lucky... think of the fiddler crab gangs.... instead of waving a claw they could wave a camera or a tiny Free Lunch banner.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#9  We're only the three of clubs, though.

Better than the Queen of Hearts!
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 02/05/2004 13:05 Comments || Top||

#10  All your cards are belong to us.
Posted by: Unmutual || 02/05/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#11  Praise Allah! I have 10 lbs. green peanuts fall upon my abode! Singh Ho! and Pass the seasoning meat! The way of the peanut is clear.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#12  The way of the peanut is clear.
Truly my friend. Your words carry the strength of camel sputum, for you are indeed blessed in the eyes He Who Goes Behind The Tent.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 02/05/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#13  With a little more pithy-ness and smartassery, Rantburg could problably achieve hold 'em status instead of a hard hand.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#14  It is good to be wise. It is better to have peanuts boiling.

I do herbie release the above into the marketplace of ideas, no strings attached.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 14:52 Comments || Top||

#15  It is good to be wise. It is better to have peanuts boiling.

But is roasting not better than boiling in infidelic water?
Posted by: Charles || 02/05/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#16  Charles.... if that's you're real name... roasting a green peanie is a sin....
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#17  How,nice.Congratulations,Fred.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/05/2004 17:04 Comments || Top||

#18  Three of Clubs? We wuz robbed!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 02/05/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#19  Not to worry RB is only a cover for the real blog.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||

#20  And of course it's so secret no body get's in there... Lucky did stumble on a PW once tho...
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#21  Congratulations, Fred.
I see Jenny from Greatest Jenneration, a frequent Rantburg commentor, is the 10 of hearts. Good for you lady.
Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 18:22 Comments || Top||

#22  Looks like it's time to bare our fangs and boost Fred's ratings. He probably wouldn't mind a few PayPal visits either.
Posted by: Tom || 02/05/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#23  Cheers, Gasse Katze! It was quite an honor and to be in such august and revered company as Rantburg, too.
I am confounded by Shipman's Religion of Peanut, however.
Tell us more!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 02/05/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#24  No Blood For Peanuts!!!1
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 21:53 Comments || Top||

#25  Shipman, PW means something to me. So now I'm wondering. Is it memorex?
Posted by: Lucky || 02/05/2004 23:42 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon
Analysis: Is Syria changing?
Changes are slowly happening in Syria. A group of about 700 Syrian intellectual -- writers and lawyers -- is calling on the government of President Bashar Assad to implement political reform. This is a rare event in a country where dissident voices tend to remain unheard and out of the spotlight. But a report issued Wednesday urges the government to lift the state of emergency, which its signatories say is leading to "paralysis within Syrian society." The report -- the first of its kind in Syria -- will be presented to the government next month, on the anniversary of the Syrian Baath party’s rise to power. The Syrian Organization of Human Rights also urges the government to exert more control over prisons and the treatment of prisoners, which the report says are at times subjected to torture, beatings and other human rights abuses. The report cites former prisoners by name and describes some of the maltreatment to which they were subjected.

This unexpected development comes on the heels of recent peace overtures made by the Syrian president towards Israel. Indeed, change may be slowly creeping into Syria since Bashar took over the mantle of leadership following the death of his father, Hafez, in June 2000. Last month Bashar ordered the release of more than 100 political prisoners and freed more than 700 others. While these steps might not appear as much to those unfamiliar with the pace at which progress inches along in the Middle East, it is, nevertheless, seen as an important improvement by analysts more familiar with developments in the area.

They cite the case of Kuwait as an example. "After the Iraqi army was driven from Kuwait in 1991, its monarch promised women rights. Consequently, in May 1999 -- the time gap tells something about the pace of change in the region -- he issued a decree giving women the right to vote and run for office in the next Kuwaiti elections," says Barry Rubin, director of Global Research in International Affairs and editor of the Middle East Review of International Affairs Journal.

After four major wars in five decades, Syria, it appears, is now trying to move forward through peaceful means in its stagnating quarrel with Israel. "We are not going to war anymore," said Imad Mustapha, Syria’s top envoy to Washington at a recent meeting held at the Middle East Institute. "We want to regain the Golan through negotiations," he said in reference to the Israeli-occupied heights.

The reasons behind the sudden change of policies -- both foreign and domestic -- could be partially explained by a number of developments in the area, not least of which is the presence of several tens of thousands of U.S. troops encamped in neighboring Iraq. That is a fact made all the more real by repeated warnings of regime changes hurled at Syria by neo-conservatives in the Bush administration. They would like to see a repeat performance of the Baghdad scenario played out in Damascus, at least as far as removing the Baath Party from power goes. They call it "de-Baathification." The passing of the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Act by Congress late last year gives Washington the possibility of applying further political and economic pressures on Damascus. Another reason could simply be that Assad realizes he has no other options but to impose change, before it is imposed. "Syria has come to realize it is time to open up to the world," admitted Bouthaina Shaaban, a minister in Assad’s Cabinet, to United Press International last December.

In some ways Assad finds himself today in a situation reminiscent to that of Mikhail Gorbachev at the time when the then leader of Soviet Union introduced Perestroika and Glasnost. The arms race between the United States and the USSR forced the Soviet Union to overspend money it simply did not have just to keep pace with NATO and Western military technologies and spending. The result, as we know, bankrupted the Soviet Union, forced the collapse of communism and led to the breakup of the USSR. Similarly, Syria today finds that its economy cannot keep pace and that change is badly needed. The demise of the Soviet Union, once Syria’s chief supporter and its main arms supplier, has slowed Syria’s ability to acquire modern military equipment. "Nevertheless, its military remains one of the largest and most capable in the region," according to the U.S. Department of State.
Iraq used to have the Fourth Largest Army in the World™. It was the most capable in the region, too, fighting Iran to a standstill at the cost of hundreds of thousands of casualties...
But maintaining its current military status is forcing a heavy burden on the predominantly statist economy, which has been growing, on average, more slowly than its 2.4 percent annual population growth rate, causing a persistent decline in per capita GDP. Recent legislation legalized private banking and in 2003 the government licensed three private banks to operate in Syria, although U.S. officials believe a private banking sector will take years and further government cooperation to develop.

At Washington’s behest, both Egypt and Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, leaving Syria as the sole Arab country still in a state of war with Israel, a difficult and taxing reality on the country. Washington should now encourage Damascus to move forward on the road to openness and democratic change, even if these changes are at their own pace.
Posted by: tipper || 02/05/2004 10:02:32 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  both Egypt and Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, leaving Syria as the sole Arab country still in a state of war with Israel

Is that right? Because I thought Saudia Arabia and Iraq, among others, were also technically at war with Israel still.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  The Syrian satrapy of "Lebanon" is also officially in a state of war with the zionist entity...
_________borgboy
Posted by: borgboy || 02/05/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#3  A conscript army using obsolete Soviet hardware?

Rotsa ruck, boys. Make sure your insurance is paid up before you go.
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  good and interesting article..though the tone is a bit wierd.
Washington should now encourage Damascus to move forward on the road to openness and democratic change, even if these changes are at their own pace

This is an editorial by a UPI editor, right? On one hand he's saying that Syria's changing, only because it is being forced to(a good thing), and then in conclusion, he says that we should "encourage" Damascus to move forward at their OWN pace". Huh? Am I the only one to think that is a bizarre conclusion to this article?? Didn't the first half of the article inform us that they only reason they are changing is due to outside pressure. I don't get it?
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#5  I've been thinking about this. And I wonder if this article isn't part of a PR effort to decrease the pressure on the Syrian government. Wait..wait..let me explain.

First, take note of the use of the phrasing, "neo-conservatives in the Bush Administration" which is always a red-flag for a propaganda piece.

It almost seems as if the Syrian tyrants, finding themselves pinned by the US with with their arms behind their backs and their faces against the pavement...suddenly want to change the dialog from egging us on to ...whoa..whoa...slow down there USA, don't be so mean and bossy...just relax a bit...and as soon as you let go we'll do what you want...just let up your grip a bit. Ya see, we can't do what you want if you don't let us go..

If this "train of logic" makes it's way into multiple articles and press releases from the usual suspects over the next few weeks, I'll be even more suspicious.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Article, even one about change in Syria, doesn't say 'boo' about the occupation of Lebanon. The UPI is definitely an apologist for Assad.
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Perhaps the editorial staff of UPI is genuinely ignorant of the occupation of Lebanon by Syria. They're only journalists...

Posted by: Anonymous || 02/05/2004 20:39 Comments || Top||

#8  This is almost an exactly duplicate of an article from the last year or two.

Nothing happened then.

Nothing will happen now. Unless we send the 4ID into Damascus.
Posted by: Meryl Yourish || 02/05/2004 22:46 Comments || Top||


Iran
White House Hypocrisy on Iranian Democracy
Washington’s intrusive policy toward Iran’s internal affairs indicates the aggressive and hostile approach of White House officials toward the Iranian nation. U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher declared on Monday that the U.S. has always been in favor of free and fair elections in Iran and that the Iranian nation should have the right to decide on their government’s policies. These deceitful remarks are meant to influence Iran’s internal affairs.
Deceitful, I tell you, How dare you say that the people should have a say
Washington’s acts in the international arena, including its actions toward Iran, indicate that the U.S. administration does not believe in free elections and democracy in other countries.
Depends what you mean by free elections, doesn’t it?
Despite the views of the international community and the Iraqi nation, the United States is opposed to allowing elections in Iraq. The people of Iran have not forgotten the time when the U.S. administration toppled the elected government of Mohammad Mosaddeq through a military coup on August 19, 1953.
What about when Ghengis Khan's grandson moved in.
Obviously the fault of the US

U.S. officials overlook the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran was established by a referendum in which 98.2 percent of the nation voted yes to an Islamic republic after one of the biggest revolutions in the world.
So why not give them a say now?
But the U.S. administration has even allocated funds and created a special budget to overthrow the Islamic Republic of Iran, which is one of the most popular political systems in the region.
So why not give the people a vote if you are that popular.
What have you got to hide

The U.S. claims to support the demands of the Iranian people, yet it has imposed the severest economic sanctions against the Iranian nation for the past two decades.
Oh wow, but didn’t you keep saying that it had no effect?
White House officials committed a horrible crime against the Iranian nation by supporting Saddam Hussein’s aggressive regime during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war.
The enemy of my enemy. What about the hostages
And now U.S. officials are attempting to create divisions among Iran’s political parties by feigning support for certain political groups in Iran. However, the U.S. is neither an ally of any political group in Iran nor concerned about the demands of the Iranian nation. U.S. officials must realize that the people of Iran want them to bring an end to their aggressive policies against Iran and to stop interfering in the country’s internal affairs. Iran has a vibrant social scene, and Iranians have actively participated in 24 elections over the past two decades. Elections held in Iran are much more popular and democratic than U.S. elections, since the Iranian Judiciary has never selected the president, unlike in the U.S. where George W. Bush was elected U.S president based on a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court. Iran is capable of holding free and fair elections, and the Iranian nation does not need White House officials’ support in order to participate in elections.
So why are you whinging?
Posted by: tipper || 02/05/2004 9:49:22 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SOS. It's all the USA's fault again. No wonder these are third world countries. They take no responsibility for their actions (unless blowing something up-then that's ok). How do you spell pathetic.
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 10:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Yawn. Nag, nag, nag. blame. blame. blame. The victim gig has grown old.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  As stated earlier, the U.S. Gov't has some bad memories associated with encouraging "democratic" revolutions. Hungary, 1956; Czechoslovakia(sp?) 1968; and recently Iraq 1991. So i would postulate that the students are doing their thing despite the wishes of the U.S. Gov't. Which makes the article even funnier in my eyes.
When in doubt blame the Great Satan. Sigh. Now if we could figure out how to make this paranoia work for us...
Posted by: Nguard || 02/05/2004 10:29 Comments || Top||

#4  The Tehran Times - The "Paper of Record" for 14th Century Theocracies!
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#5 
the U.S. administration does not believe in free elections and democracy in other countries.

I, for one, don't believe there has ever been a free election or any democracy in Iran.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#6  It is so uncool being the Great Satan, I have step folks what keep 12 feet away from me thinking I might impunge them the latest from the WSJ. Sad.... I just want to tell 'em to short the dollar short term and make a few bucks..... sheesh they never listen....
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#7  What about the hostages?
You want fair and balanced tune in Peter Jennings Fox News.:)
Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||


Middle East
AFTER MONTHS OF RELATIVE CALM, A TERROR STRIKE TO THE HEART OF JERUSALEM.
The Palestinian Islamic movement, Hamas, became Friday the second radical Palestinian group to claim responsibility for a suicide bus bombing in Jerusalem that left 10 people dead as well as the attacker.
(Hamas doesn’t want to be left out of credit for Bus Bombings obviously ever)
The Islamist movement’s armed wing issued a statement in which it said that Ali Munir Yussef Jihara was one of its members and that he had “activated his explosives belt on the number 19 bus transporting Zionist usurpers.”
(What a hero- his mom and pop must be so proud)
The Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades said the attack near the official residence of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was “a clear message to the Zionist war criminal” after the killing of eight Palestinians on the southern outskirts of Gaza City on Wednesday by Israeli troops.
(Yep I’ll be that really scared Sharon-it probably won’t piss him off right?)
Hamas published on its website Friday a picture of the bomber who was wearing a band with the incripition “the Al-Qassam Brigades”.
(How about a pic of his house after the Israelis destroy it-or a video of the demolition)
The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a radical offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat’s Fatah movement, had claimed responsibility for the attack on Thursday. But Hamas condemned what it called the “hasty claim” by the organisation.
(Do I see a small fray here between the bombers beginning mmmmmmm. Bombers bombing other bombers- that would be interesting)
The two groups carried out a joint suicide attack at the Erez border crossing between Gaza and Israel earlier this month.
(Another well planned mission to endear themselves to the Israelis)
Jihara was a 24-year-old policeman from the Ayda refugee camp in the Bethlehem region of the West Bank.
(Well he won’t be on COPS again)
He was the nephew of Jihad Jihara, one of 13 Palestinians expelled to European countries after a siege at Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity in May 2002.
(Oh ya I remember those guys- hid in a church and used it as a fortress-It’s ok to use other peoples religious places since they are all infidels anyways right?)
Posted by: Dataman1 || 02/05/2004 9:47:40 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (Oh ya I remember those guys- hid in a church and used it as a fortress-It’s ok to use other peoples religious places since they are all infidels anyways right?)

They didn't just use it as a fortress, they desecrated it.

EFL
Orthodox space hit hardest at Church of the Nativity
* * *
Gunmen, some said, raided food supplies and trashed monastic cells.
* * *
. . . they shot their way through the main doors of the Roman Catholic Church of St. Catherine, a 19th-century sanctuary adjoining the Orthodox basilica.
* * *
The New York Times and other publications reported that the most militant Palestinians appear to have lived, fought and died in the quarters of the Orthodox monks.
* * *
Franciscan priests did report that gunmen tore up Bibles for toilet paper.
* * *
[Meanwhile, in the Orthodox section] One altar had been used a common table, the baptismal font as a washtub and parts of the nave as latrines. The Grotto of the Nativity was used as a morgue. And Eastern Orthodox believers were unable to celebrate Holy Week and their Easter on May 5.
* * *
May 25, 2002

This is just one limited report on the desecration. It was much more extreme. But, even given this description, would we Westerners get away with doing even half of this to a Muslim mosque? These pigs have no morals and no respect.
Posted by: cingold || 02/05/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe Israel should begin to attack the some of the Palestinian infrastructure after the next suicide/murder bomber strike; crater the roads and highways and knock out Palestinian power stations. Are the Paleos attached to Israel's power grid? Disconnect them. Whatever. A LOT of pain needs to be applied to figure out whether there's any value in even considering some sort of peace process while Arafart, his thugs, and his fellow terrorists are running the show.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 02/05/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||


Africa: West
U.N. Boat Convoy Attacked in Congo
Tribal fighters hiding on the banks of Lake Albert attacked a U.N. boat convoy going to investigate a reported massacre in volatile northeastern Ituri province, a U.N. spokesman said Thursday. There were no U.N. casualties in the attack, but the group’s mission was called off, said Leocadio Salmeron, spokesman of the U.N. mission to Congo.
"Evinrude, don’t fail me now!"
The convoy of U.N. speedboats was heading for the hamlet of Gobu Wednesday to investigate alleged human rights abuses in the area, three weeks after tribal fighters reportedly killed as many as 100 boat passengers on the lake, Salmeron said.
Three weeks? Oh, right, it’s the UN. Continue...
However, the U.N. human rights officers came under heavy fire from unknown assailants with high-caliber assault rifles, some four miles from the site of the reported massacre, Salmeron said. U.N. troops from Uruguay in the four-boat convoy "responded with heavy gunfire" for at least 15 minutes, then called off the mission "because the speed boats were not reinforced to protect United Nations workers," Salmeron said.
Sent pleasure boats into a war zone when they needed gunboats.
The U.N. mission was analyzing the situation, Salmeron said.
It’s what they do best, right after tea parties and seminars.
U.N. officials had been hoping to gather information on the reported killings that took place Jan. 15. Before the alleged massacre, two dozen Lendu tribal fighters had said they would protect an estimated 180 passengers traveling south from Mokambo, some 62 miles north of Bunia, in large wooden canoes.
"Trust us, we’ll protect them"
But survivors later said the fighters ordered the canoes to stop at Gobu, 25 miles south of Mokambo, killed most of the male passengers, raped some women and ordered them and the children to carry cargo looted from the vessels.
Congo, still the Heart Of Darkness.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 9:37:03 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  so the Uruguayans fought, at least for a while, eh?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#2  "Evinrude, don’t fail me now!"
Damn, LOL! We're running out of don't fail me nouns. I still have hope.

Huskies don't fail me now Quinn on the run.

Huskers don't fail me now
Avid Nebraka fan using the football team sled to avoid the flyover cops.

Hussies don't fail me now Lord Pimpeljack exhorting his trained mosquitos.

Hassbeen don't fail me now faisal prays to Nasser
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Ship - LOL! Geez, with that imagination at your command, I'm gonna try to stay on your good side!
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#4  AbuTrollSlicer! I stand at your side.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Look a UN Convoy of boats/trucks/mules. Lets shoot it up!

Isn't that risky?

Nah, safe as houses. Every body knows the Undies never shoot back.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/05/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Wonder if those magnificent Uruguayan troops have the cost of the bullets deducted from their UN pay.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 17:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Wonder if those magnificent Uruguayan troops have the cost of the bullets deducted from their UN pay.

My questions:

Which UN official got the kickback from the speedboat rentals?

How much in hock the Uraguayans would be had one of the boats sank?
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:24 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Algeria ire at feting of Islamist
The Algerian Foreign Ministry has asked Saudi Arabia to explain why it invited the leader of a banned Islamist party to a royal function.
Hummm, because they are his source of funding?
Abassi Madani attended a reception in Riyadh given by King Fahd for Eid al-Adha, the feast of sacrifice.
Has anyone seen King Fahd at these affairs, or is his name just on the invitation?
Madani was freed last year after serving a 12-year jail term for threatening state security, and later given permission to travel abroad. But he remains banned from engaging in political and religious activities.
Those bans work so well.
An Algerian Government statement said the authorities wanted to know the "real motive" behind the invitation. It has called on the Saudi ambassador in Algiers to provide an explanation. There has been no comment as yet from the Saudi authorities.
Working on their lie explanation.
Posted by: Steve || 02/05/2004 8:56:12 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Says it was for "medical" treatment. Maybe he's planning to move to the Corridor...you know, the dry air's good for his lungs
Posted by: floatinginspace || 02/05/2004 9:19 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Whitewashing (no pun intended) Bob
This "article" from the New York Times discusses the crisis of the healthcare system in Zimbawe without once mentioning what caused said crisis--the socialistic, racist policies of Zimbawe’s dictator Robert Mugabe. It calls Zimbawe’s government "authoritarian" exactly once, but the health crisis was apparently created by a mysteriously-appearing inflation, as well as an equally mysterious exodus of health care workers. (Hint, inflation is a direct result of government policies; the doctor’s escape is a direct result of both a hopeless situation for doctors in Zimbawe--they are expected to be selfless servers of the collective, and of Zimbawe’s anti-Afrikaner madness--white doctors are leaving in droves.)

The New York Times (all the news that fit our ideology), remains as disgusting as ever.
Posted by: Sorge || 02/05/2004 7:54:41 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  quick note - IIUC most white Rhodesians were not Afrikaners, but Brits. Rhodesia was founded by Cecil Rhodes largely to keep the land out of the hands of the Traansvall Afrikaners.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 9:36 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm still waiting to see if certain members of the NYT ends up on Sadaam's payroll records.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  discusses the crisis of the healthcare system in Zimbawe

LOL that's like discussing health systems while the air pressure is dropping 3 lbs a mounth.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#4  I doubt it, B. The NYT doesn't need a bribe to be anti-American.
Posted by: Jackal || 02/05/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Jackal...so sad, but probably true!
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 12:39 Comments || Top||

#6  To each according to his need; from each according to his...... Wait! Where are you going,doc? We'll take care of all your needs. About $10 a month should do it.
And this is why Communism needs stringent emigration policies and high walls.
Posted by: GK (Gasse Katze) || 02/05/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#7  There was a report that ambulance drivers would transport a patient, but only if the patient/family could provide the fuel.

Same with the hearse-drivers.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:46 Comments || Top||


New Al Qaida statement warns of major attack on U.S.
From Drudge:
Al Qaida has again warned of a major strike in the United States.
I wish I had a nickle for everytime one of these knuckleheads pop up and starts to squawk about a "major strike", What happened to the big 2/2 hit we were threatened with?
The Al Qaida warning was relayed via the Tajamu Reform Party of Yemen in a statement proposing terms of reconciliation with the government which has been under pressure to cooperate with the United States in the war on terrorism. "A major strike, a big event will take place in America soon," the statement said.
Unless threats are all you have left, its time to put up or shut up
In its statement, Al Qaida termed Sanaa as the second most cooperative partner in the U.S.-led war against the Islamic insurgency movement. The group said Pakistan was the chief ally of the United States. On Jan. 24, Yemen acknowledged that it cooperated with the United States in the assassination of Abu Sinan Ali Al-Harethi, the leading Al Qaida insurgent in Yemen, in December 2002, Middle East Newsline reported. Yemeni Vice President Abbed Rabbo Mansour said Yemen turned to the CIA for help in tracking and killing Al Harethi, who was targeted by a Predator unmanned air vehicle armed with an anti-tank missile.

The Tajamu Reform Party has been regarded as an ally of Osama Bin Laden, whose family comes from Yemen. "The branch of the organization in Yemen promised the state – as a goodwill gesture – that the initiative will be favoured by Sheik Osama Bin Laden or one of the senior leaders of the global Al Qaida organization, through a communique or statement in which the subject will be referred implicitly or explicitly," a statement released by the so-called Yemeni branch of Al Qaida and published in Al Sahwanet, the mouthpiece of the Islamic-oriented opposition party, said. In its purported statement, Al Qaida offered to reconcile with Yemen. Bin Laden was said to have offered a deal to end attacks against Western interests in Yemen in exchange for allowing insurgents freedom of movement. Yemen has been under heavy U.S. and Saudi pressure to cooperate in operations against Al Qaida. Al Qaida, the statement said, wanted Yemen to allow Islamic insurgents to fight the United States and Israel in such countries as Afghanistan, Iraq and the Palestinian Authority. Yemen, however, was said to have rejected the proposal.

[In Kabul, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan predicted that Bin Laden would be captured in 2004. "Their day has ended and this year will decisively sound the death knell of their movements in Afghanistan," Lt. Gen. David Barno said during a ceremony on Tuesday.]
Drudge and World Tribune are behind the curve on this one. We ran it last week. Early last week, in fact.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 02/05/2004 7:42:13 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
through a communique or statement in which the subject will be referred implicitly or explicitly

The reference will very definitely be either implicit or explicit -- one of those two possibilities.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 8:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Another "Doom By Day 'X'" passes and another promise of Doom By Day 'Y'" is announced.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 02/05/2004 8:21 Comments || Top||

#3  "Yemen, however, was said to have rejected the proposal."

'We have noted the current situations of Mullah Omar and Saddam Hussein, and have consulted our good friend Muammar Kadaffi, and while we find your proposal interesting, we must respectfully decline. We look forward to working with you in the future, however in the future we ask that you not send unsolicited proposals, but check our website for Requests for Proposals.'

Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 9:34 Comments || Top||

#4  "Yeah, but this time we really, really mean it!"
Posted by: Dar || 02/05/2004 9:51 Comments || Top||

#5  We probably have enough disaster threats from AlQ and 'unleash the gates of hell' treats from Hamas to have a "The Religion of Peace Calendar" with something on every day that isn't already an anniversary of a suicide bombing, massacre, etc.
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Al-Q better watch out. IBM has a trademark on the term 'Real Soon Now'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 10:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Every day I sit in my office in NYC waiting to be nuked, and it never happens. These al Qaeda guys are all chicken shiite. There's no more Rudy to deal with, but they still can't get to us.
Posted by: Tibor || 02/05/2004 10:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Personally, I'm completely desensitized to vaporware. The aq mutts mast be taking cues from microsoft's marketing dept.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Arthur King: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
Al Queda: I'm invincible!
Arthur: You're a looney.
Al Queda: Come back, or I'll bite your leg off.
Posted by: ruprecht || 02/05/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Yes more empty threats - but we still cannot take it lightly. I would recommendt that the US govt gives a very clear warning that any major attack with wmd on american soil would warrant a nuclear response on Tehran. Iran supports these bastards, at least one of iran's governing powers - not our fault they cannot get their govt to act as one, and should pay the piper.
Posted by: Dan || 02/05/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#11  I'd laugh except for the virus hitting the Onions in vidalia land.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#12  What happened to the big 2/2 hit we were threatened with?

It was thwarted by our intelligence agencies. Remember the cancelled flights? A lack of something happening doesn't mean AQ isn't trying its damndest to kill a huge number of us. Empty threats, pshaw.
Posted by: gromky || 02/05/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#13  the US govt gives a very clear warning that any major attack with wmd on american soil would warrant a nuclear response on Tehran.

I've always suspected we told the soddis after 9/11 very much the same thing. We know the aq mutts HAVE nerve agent (remember the doggy video?), and with the khan mutt coming clean we know there are plenty of programs up and running that aq had easy access to. I imagine if we had any dialogue with any iranian govt that wasn't crazy we'd make it clear to them, also.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Didn't you guys see the Super Bowl? Al Q's attack came a day early. However, all they could do was destroy MTV's chance of producing a half-time show again.
Posted by: spiffo || 02/05/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#15  Ah ha then the Janet Jackson thing was really an ALQ operation!! God help me this is what the Dem Underground would say........Going for some sanity checks now...
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#16  "What happened to the big 2/2 hit we were threatened with?"

Thankfully the Groundhog Society over in Pennsylvania was able to thwart the abduction attempt!
Posted by: eLarson || 02/05/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||

#17  Al Queda only started calling their shots after they lost the ability to strike. Prior to 9/11 I don't recall any threats, they just attacked. Yeah there was a fatawa or two but no threats about specific attacks.

They are trying to sew terror using words.
Posted by: ruprecht || 02/05/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#18  My seatbelt's still buckled from June, two years go. What ever happened to Sully? Haven't heard from him lately.
Posted by: Fred || 02/05/2004 20:24 Comments || Top||

#19  I sent the President an email right after 9/11, and info'd a couple of friends in the Puzzle Palace. I said then that the only thing the Arab mentality understood was power. I urged him to call in the Arab heads of state, either one at a time or all together, and have a nice chat with them. The gist of that chat was "Either you cooperate with us to eliminate these nutjobs, or next time, I'm going to eliminate these 289 targets" - gesturing to a drape-covered map of the Middle East with every major city circled, as well as thirty or fourty key cultural and religious sites, including Mecca and Medina. I don't know if he read it, or if he ever considered it, but it's still good policy. As the Marines are fond of saying, "When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow". I'm sure Al-Qeada and most of the Middle East is working very hard to see a Democrat elected to the White House.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/05/2004 22:14 Comments || Top||


A Mushy Story
OT maybe, maybe not.
As she stood in front of her 5th grade class on the very first day of school, she told the children an untruth. Like most teachers, she looked at her students and said that she loved them all the same. However, that was impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in his seat, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard. Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed that he did not play well with the other children, that his clothes were messy and that he constantly needed a bath. In addition, Teddy could be unpleasant. It got to the point where Mrs. Thompson would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X’s and then putting
a big "F" at the top of his papers.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child’s past records and she put Teddy’s off until last. However, when she reviewed his file, she was in for a surprise. Teddy’s first grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright child with a ready laugh. He does his work neatly and has good manners... he is a joy to be around.."

His second grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student, well liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third grade teacher wrote, "His mother’s death has been hard on him He tries to do his best, but his father doesn’t show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren’t taken."

Teddy’s fourth grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn’t show much interest in school. He doesn’t have many friends and he sometimes sleeps in class."

By now, Mrs. Thompson realized the problem and she was ashamed of herself. She felt even worse when her students brought her Christmas presents, wrapped in beautiful ribbons and bright paper, except for Teddy’s. His present was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper That he got from a grocery bag Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents. Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of perfume.. But she stifled the children’s laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume on her wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed after school that day just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my Mom used to." After the children left, she cried for at least an hour.

On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing and arithmetic.
Instead, she began to teach children. Mrs. Thompson paid particular attention to Teddy. As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. By the end of the year, Teddy had become one of the smartest children in the class and, despite her lie that she would love all the children the same, Teddy became one of her "teacher’s pets.."

A year later, she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling* her that she was still the best teacher he ever had in his whole life. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy. He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still the best teacher he ever had in life.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he’d stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would soon graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson that she was still the best and favorite teacher he had ever had in his whole life.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor’s degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still the best and favorite teacher he ever had. But now his name was a little longer...
The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, MD.

The story does not end there. You see, there was yet another letter early that spring. Teddy said he had met this girl and was going to be married. he explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit at the wedding in the place that was usually reserved for the mother of the groom. Of course, Mrs. Thompson did. And guess what? She wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. Moreover, she made sure she was wearing the perfume that Teddy remembered his mother wearing on their last Christmas together.

They hugged each other, and Dr. Stoddard whispered in Mrs. Thompson’s ear, "Thank you Mrs. Thompson for believing in me. Thank you so much for making me feel important and showing me that I could make a difference."

Mrs. Thompson, with tears in her eyes, whispered back. She said,
"Teddy, you have it all wrong. You were the one who taught me that I could make adifference. I didn’t know how to teach until I met you."
Posted by: tipper || 02/05/2004 4:09:47 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  STOP! THERE ARE DIABETICS IN THE AUDIENCE!
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:18 Comments || Top||

#2  How sweet. But.
It's an urban legend.
Posted by: Kathy K || 02/05/2004 9:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Bugger.
And there I was thinking that a story I could relate to, was true
(I lost my mum when I was 8 , but I never met a Mrs thompson)
Posted by: tipper || 02/05/2004 9:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Sniff, sniff, oh sure, Kathy...go ahead and spoil it.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Incidentally, Teddy Stoddards Teacher is a great name for a band.
Posted by: BH || 02/05/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#6  I lost my mum when I was 8 , but I never met a Mrs thompson)

Well, at least you had mum, in the lake all we 'ad were jars.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#7  Jeez, did someone's mom get on rantburg? As soon as my mom got email, she started forwarding me these urban legends, along with hoaxes and microsoft email worms. I had to put a stop to that immediately.
Posted by: gromky || 02/05/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#8  "Incidentally, Teddy Stoddards Teacher is a great name for a band."
LOL! But not for an SUV.
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||


Africa: West
Sierra Leone Leader Declares Disarmament
President Ahmed Tejah Kabbah and international sponsors declared a successful end to disarmament in Sierra Leone on Wednesday, closing a final chapter in an 11-year war that was one of the modern world’s most vicious.
This is excellent news. Coincidentially, the French had nothing to do with this success.
Disarmament took guns out of the hands of 72,490 former fighters in the West African country, including 6,845 children, Kabbah said on state radio. Other African nations already are studying Sierra Leone’s campaign as a model, viewing it as "the best practical example throughout the world of a successful disarmament, demobilization and reintegration program," said Eileen Murray of the World Bank, one of the effort’s funders.
Something worked.
Kabbah presided over the official closure Tuesday of the National Committee for Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration. The office was set up in July 1999, under an earlier peace accord that failed. Kabbah praised the head of the disarmament program, Francis Kai Kai, for a job well done, but said the reintegration of former combatants would remain an ongoing task. About 51,000 of those who handed over their weapons were given vocational training or were placed in agricultural jobs or returned to school. Thousands of others relied on their own means to return to civil society, Kai Kai said. In neighboring countries, U.N.-sponsored disarmament has stalled in Liberia, and disarmament promised under a French-brokered peace deal has yet to begin in Ivory Coast.
And there’s the difference.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 2:41:30 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IIUC, the brits were running the show in Sierra Leone, a former Brit colony.


apparently with Brits running things, even the World Bank and NGO's can do a worthwhile job.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/05/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course, disarmament is an unfortunate word to use in Sierra Leone.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 02/05/2004 13:05 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Palestinian malnutrition at African levels under Israeli curbs, say MPs
What set me searching for this was a report on the BBC that If Israel completes the wall ’billions of Euros invested in Palestinian territories would be wasted.’ When I stopped laughing both because its Euro-socialist money and the fact it was lost the minute it hit Arafat’s bank account, I though I’d find a link.
Malnutrition rates in the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank are as bad as those in sub-Saharan Africa, MPs said yesterday. They warned that the Israeli security fence around the occupied territories was "destroying the Palestinian economy and creating widespread poverty".
So the solution is to send the money to Africa where it would do far more good and while you are at it dismantle the CAP which would do wonders for sub-Saharan Africa.
The all-party Commons International Development Committee called for European Union trade sanctions to be imposed on Israel until it allowed the free export of goods from the West Bank and Gaza.
I wasn’t aware that Israel restricted exports from the terirtories. The problem is they don’t produce anything wants to buy.
There is the occasional shipment of Qassam missiles, delivered air freight...
MPs called on the Palestinian Authority to be more vocal in its condemnation of attacks. "Israel’s security measures are preventing Palestinians from accessing services as well as inhibiting humanitarian and development work," the MPs said. "They are destroying the Palestinian economy and creating widespread poverty."
Of course terrorism has no effect at all!
Gorsh. I wonder why they impose them ucky security measures? I jus' can't seem to remember...
They said they understood why the Israeli government had decided to build its 425-mile security fence, but added that it had displaced Palestinian homes, destroyed farms and severely disrupted trade.
Now we get the real issue! The only country buying stuff from the territories is Israel.
"Key measures, such as the construction of a security barrier, may bring the mirage of immediate security to Israelis, but the level of despair felt by ordinary Palestinians at being denied an ordinary life can only increase the supply of suicide bombers. Nor is it likely to elicit any concessions from the Palestinian leaders."
Only now they will go in a different direction cos of the wall
The MPs said that the barrier "destroyed the viability of a Palestinian state" and risked having an irreversible effect on the Palestinian people.
It was only ever viable if Israel supported it. This simple fact seems to be sinking-in in Euro-land
Posted by: phil_b || 02/05/2004 2:41:17 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The barrier will have an irreversable effect on the Palestinian people. That is the whole point! To get the Palestinians to stop blowing jews up!

Sigh....
Posted by: Ben || 02/05/2004 6:43 Comments || Top||

#2 
Nor is it likely to elicit any concessions from the Palestinian leaders.

I think it probably will cause concessions.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/05/2004 7:58 Comments || Top||

#3  with respect to exports from PA areas, the Israelis do have a lot of restrictions on PA exports for purposes of safety and other understandable reasons, the Jordanians have similar restrictions (just like the US has restrictions on exporters except that Iowa beef doesn't come with terrorism manuals)-- the complaints are always about the Israeli restrictions
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually the fence will create a de-facto Palistinian state - something Arafish and Hamas do not want to see.

They still haven't figured out the whole cause-effect thingy yet. Or that their own 'leadership' is the cause of most of their misery.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/05/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#5  waaah...those nasty Israeli's and the US.....waaah. We have no infrastructure ....waaaah.....We are almost out of bomb makers waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh. They took our land after we attacked them waaaaahhhhh waaaahhhhh
Posted by: dataman1 || 02/05/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Geez, another peek through the eurocommie looking class. I bet if suha gave up some furs and a few limos there'd be plenty of caysh to go around.
Posted by: 4thInfVet || 02/05/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Now we get the real issue! The only country buying stuff from the territories is Israel.

good post Phil
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#8  dejafoo.net has the following post: "Brits Try To Hide Disdain For Jewish State, Fail"
http://www.dejafoo.net/index.php
Where they quote: "The authors of the report stressed that, although they are "highly sympathetic to Israeli safety concerns - it is hard to avoid the conclusion that there is a deliberate Israeli approach of putting the lives of ordinary Palestinians under stress as part of a strategy to bring the population to heel. Certain security measures, including the construction of the security barrier and movement restrictions imposed on Palestinians, are completely undermining the viability of a future Palestinian state."
See suicide bombing has nothing to do with it. It is the nasty Israelis.
Posted by: Barry || 02/05/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Malnutrition rates in the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank are as bad as those in sub-Saharan Africa, MPs said yesterday.

Does anyone remember that old Dilbert strip when that little dinosaur quips: "If people are starving in Palestine Africa... they should move to France"? That one always cracked me up!
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#10  “Construction of a security barrier, may bring the mirage of immediate security to Israelis.” Hmm unless them Paleos can leap fences, the Israelis would be very secure. The Paleos don’t like the fence because it will extinguish any claim they want to make on Israel proper. They’re big plan of people returning to Israel then ‘joining’ the great Paleos state will be gone. Once the fence defines a DEFENDABLE border all arguments from Arafish and his crowd are worthless. Are any members of the MPs, Fatah, Al Aqasa brigade, or Hamas going hungry? You know the answer.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 02/05/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#11  Well, since they're going to get all that fertile land and possibly hothouses, they should be able to feed themselves, yes????
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 02/05/2004 21:42 Comments || Top||


Africa: West
U.N. Mulls Deployment in Ivory Coast
The U.N. Security Council asked Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Wednesday to prepare for possible deployment of a U.N. peacekeeping operation in war-divided Ivory Coast, but the United States and France are still at odds over a U.N. force.
Surprise meter reads ’0.000’ once again.
The council voted unanimously to extend the small U.N. military liaison mission in Ivory Coast until Feb. 27 along with U.N. authorization for 1,000 West African troops and more than 4,000 French troops helping to keep the peace in the country. Last month, France circulated a draft resolution calling for a 6,240-strong U.N. force to replace the West African troops in the war-divided nation - the force size recommended by Annan. Paris initially pressed for a U.N. decision by Feb. 4 and now wants one by Feb. 27. But the United States, which pays 27 percent of the U.N. peacekeeping budget, has expressed reservations about the size of the proposed force, and says it wants to examine the justification for sending U.N. troops there.
For example, is there a peace to keep?
A U.S. official said Wednesday that Washington is in the middle of trying to evaluate information provided by the U.N. Secretariat, including a new memo on the need for civilian police. The United States will make a determination when its evaluation process is completed, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
How ’bout factoring in whether the rebels were aided and abetted by the French a while back?
Annan told reporters Wednesday that he discussed the request for new U.N. peacekeeping operations in Ivory Coast and Burundi with top Bush administration officials and Congressional leaders during his visit to Washington on Tuesday. "They were forthcoming," Annan said. "I sense that we will get their support. There are some problems - technical issues that may have to be worked out - but they are supportive."
Kofi’s just so perceptive, this should be money in the bank.
China’s U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya, the current Security Council president, said council members "still do not have a common position" on a U.N. force for Ivory Coast and need more time. "I think the (U.N.) Secretariat and many African countries feel that the situation on the ground in Ivory Coast needs help from the international community," he said.
How about 6,000 Chinese troops? That would be interesting.
In his report last month recommending a U.N. force, the secretary-general said West African peacekeepers are overstretched and requests for more money from donor nations haven’t been answered nor are they likely to be. The French want the U.N. force to monitor a cease-fire and assist the transitional power-sharing government in disarming and repatriating the former combatants. They also want U.N. peacekeepers to help the government extend its authority throughout the country and prepare for elections in 2005.
Unlike in 2003 when the French took the government’s authority away from them.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 2:37:34 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about 6,000 Chinese troops? That would be interesting.

It would be interesting... 30% would immediately dessert and in 5 mounths own 55% percent of the country.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:11 Comments || Top||

#2  It would be interesting... 30% would immediately dessert and in 5 mounths own 55% percent of the country.

LOL. Shipman, you've really got to warn people about your posts. I just about choked to death on my lunch and I still can't stop laughing . . .
Posted by: cingold || 02/05/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Trust me cingold it not near as important as your explanation of the McDonalds hot coffee case. It was something of an eye opener. I've stopped the dawgs from barking at lawyer packs.

Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Jibril Accuses U.S. of Blackmail
A senior adviser to Yasser Arafat on Wednesday accused the United States of "blackmailing" the Palestinians by withholding aid - unusually harsh criticism reflecting exasperation with perceived U.S. disengagement from the Mideast conflict.
"OOOCH! Ouch! Loosen the laces, dammit, that pinches!"
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has said repeatedly in recent weeks he would go ahead with unilateral measures, including dismantling some settlements and imposing a boundary on the Palestinians, if there is no progress in coming months. Earlier this week, he proposed dismantling virtually all the Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, a political bombshell that is threatening his center-right coalition.
Which is a shame because it’s the right idea. Get out of Gaza, get out of most of the West Bank, and let the Paleos have the civil war they so richly deserve.
Sharon is facing mounting opposition, including from within his Likud Party. Challenging his critics, Sharon said Wednesday he would support a referendum on the issue. A senior Israeli official said Sharon would welcome a referendum because the issue cuts across ideological lines and "has overwhelming support among the public." Polls indicate a large majority of Israelis support a Gaza pullout.
Excellent idea, and it could awaken the religious nutters there about where the public is on this -- out in front.
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher offered a mixed response to Sharon’s Gaza initiative. Boucher said that while removing settlements is good, the United States is concerned about "any steps that could attempt to unilaterally end the process or unilaterally impose a settlement."
Diplospeak for "Go ahead, but this doesn’t have our fingerprints on it."
In the West Bank city of Ramallah, Jibril Rajoub, a senior security adviser to Arafat, charged that the United States is cutting aid and scaling back involvement in Mideast diplomacy because the Palestinians have failed to find those responsible for an attack on a U.S. convoy in Gaza in October. Three U.S. security guards were killed in the roadside bombing. "I think this is blackmail," said Rajoub, who enjoyed close relations with U.S. agencies when he served as security chief in the West Bank.
Nope, hit him with the Clue Bat™ again, he’ll still not figger out cause-and-effect.
U.S. officials have complained about lack of progress in the investigation of the attack. In December, U.S. envoy William Burns said the United States "cannot carry out our full range of assistance projects" without progress in the probe.
About time! How ’bout some justice for the Americans the Paleos have whacked in the past? We got a dead Ambassador who deserves justice.
Boucher on Wednesday dismissed Rajoub’s comments as "ridiculous." He said Palestinians should improve their security, but added that the United States remains engaged in peacemaking.
"Something you should consider, Rajoub!"
The United States offered a give up to $5 million to anyone who provides information that leads to the "conviction or arrest" of those responsible for the convoy attack. "To bring justice for those responsible for this attack, the U.S. government is offering a reward of up to $5 million, plus protection for an informant’s identity and relocation with their families, for information leading to the arrest or conviction of individuals who committed or aided this attack," a statement from the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv said Thursday.
We can move Mahmoud to Detroit if he’ll give up the goods.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 2:06:09 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We can move Mahmoud to Detroit if he’ll give up the goods."

-pease God no, we have enough party stores on 8 mile already.
Posted by: Jarhead || 02/05/2004 6:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Jarhead what is a party store in Detroit's context?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:29 Comments || Top||

#3  lessee....

they're hemming and hawing about how "difficult" it is to find the bad guys who killed the Americans. They won't dismantle the terrorist infrastructure. Compound that with the fact that they utterly refuse to sign a document saying they won't support terror, forgoing a ton of cash.

I'm thinking I see a pattern here. Wish the euroweenies did, too. *sigh*
Posted by: PlanetDan || 02/05/2004 8:10 Comments || Top||

#4  I love it - terrorists complaining about "blackmail".
Note to Yasshole: can you say irony?
Posted by: Spot || 02/05/2004 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Shipman - In many parts of metro Detroit it's unusual to go in a party store without an Arab behind the counter.
Posted by: Steve YAO || 02/05/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#6  "Difficult"?

Hell, they put the prime suspect in charge of the investigation!
Posted by: mojo || 02/05/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#7  I'll dilvulge my ignorance.. What's a party store?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#8  "What's a party store?"

A small neighborhood store selling beer,wine, possibly liquor and a small selection of snacks and groceries. They are usually owned by the lastest immigrant group as a means to gain a foothold in the American Dream. A national franchise version would be a 7-11.

In some states they call them package stores. Here in Texas, a colloquial name is stop-n-rob after the Stop-n-Go chain.
Posted by: SteveS || 02/05/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Ship, like SteveS said - "Party Store" is Detroit slang for any Arab owned 7/11 /Stop-n-Go, Ali Babba's or mom&pop type package store that sometimes sells gasoline as well. They also sell lotto tickets. Owning Arab and family members usually make up the employees. Not uncommon to see bars on the windows, bulletproof plexiglass, and all of them usually own some sort of pistol (fine by me). They also are known for their dislike of the inner-city black even though that is their main clientele in Detroit. I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase most of my underage liquor/beer from the local Arab Party Store when I was an incorrigible youth in metro-Detroit.
Posted by: Jarhead || 02/05/2004 12:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Package stores, A.K.A 'Packies' (not to be confused w/ Paki's) are what they're called here in Kerry CountryTM.
Posted by: Raj || 02/05/2004 13:16 Comments || Top||

#11  Oh! You mean a store!
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Jarhead - same here! From Semaans Liquor on W. Warren.

And I'm not kidding about the name.
Posted by: Steve YAO || 02/05/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Not just any store Shipman! A party store. Please make note.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/06/2004 0:26 Comments || Top||


Africa: Central
25 LRA iced in Uganda
THE Uganda People’s Defence Forces (UPDF) has killed 25 Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) rebels, including two aides to LRA commander Rasca Lukwiya, reports Ali Mao. Addressing a press conference recently, the Lira-based 5th Division army spokesperson, 2nd Lt. Chris Magezi, said the rebels were killed during a joint air and ground troop operation in Pader district over the weekend.
"Charles! Fire up the plane!"
"Hokay, boss!"
Magezi identified the aides as Lieutenant Okure and Lt. Okot who were killed by the 45th and 77th infantry battalion.
Surely he means "people from" the two battalions? Or are they shot to shreds? Actually, that's the more comforting thought...
He said 10 rebels were killed at Omot and 13 others killed in Opyelo village on the Lira-Pader border. Magezi said the army rescued 16 formerly abducted people, recovered a radio antenna and a compass. "Now that it is the dry season and the grass is burnt down, we shall pursue these do not to take advantage of the extended amnesty," he said.
Just make sure that you don’t stop until you reach Sudan ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:47:58 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...the rebels were killed during a joint air and ground troop operation in Pader district over the weekend.

Seems the Ugandans have gotten effective with their air/ground tactics. Maybe they can get things in hand before the rains come.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/05/2004 23:11 Comments || Top||


Ugandan military heading back into Sudan to finish the LRA
The UPDF will re-deploy in southern Sudan to continue tracking down rebel leader Joseph Kony, the army commander has said. Maj. Gen. Aronda Nyakairima said at the opening of the army week at Mubende Rehabilitation Centre (MRC) on Monday that Kony should surrender or risk being killed. Kony is the leader of the rebel Lord’s Resistance Army.
We knew that...
"Before the end of this dry season, we are going back to southern Sudan. We must attack Kony and his commanders if they don’t surrender," he said. Nyakairima said Kony is left with only two commanders: Vincent Otti and Rosca Lukwiya. He said the two commanders are hiding in a camp in southern Sudan. He said the army has located the camps. He, however, did not disclose the location and how many soldiers are to be deployed in the hunt.
I hope it's lots of soldiers. They didn't do really spectacularly when they tried this before...
Operation Iron Fist was launched after Uganda signed a joint protocol with Sudan allowing the UPDF access to rebel bases inside Sudan. The rebels, however, later sneaked back into Uganda and spread their operations into the Teso and Lango regions. Nyakairima said the rebels have been completely flashed out of Teso and Lango. The army spokesman Maj. Shaban Bantariza said Operation Iron Fist has been a big success. He said the army has rescued 7,380 abducted children and killed 900 rebels including 52 top commanders, among them Yardin Nyeko and Charles Tabuley.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:45:35 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus
8 hard boyz iced in Chechnya
I’m still working on liberalhawk’s question about US vs. Russian troop losses on a monthly basis, incidentally. All the same, this is a refreshing change from the casualty figures that the Russians have been enduring through most of this week.
Eight militants were killed in Chechnya over the past 24 hours, the regional staff for commanding the counter terror operation in the North Caucasus reported on Tuesday. A staff representative said that two bandits were killed in the outskirts of the Shali regional center (the eastern part of the republic). They belonged to the group which was preparing to place a land mine and hit an ambush built by Russian servicemen. Parts of an explosive device with a rather strong power and two hand guns were found at the place of fighting.

Three bandits were eliminated near the Khulkhulau river crossing in the Shali district. The federal forces’ formation also built an ambush there. According to the staff’s data, during the short fighting a powerful explosive device, which the bandits were going to place at the river crossing, detonated. Another three armed bandits were killed in the outskirts of the village of Tangi-Chu. The staff says they were choosing the place for shooting the Russian military column which was to pass here. The killed militants had three grenade launchers and two sub-machine guns.
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Boom caches recovered in Chechnya
Several powerful homemade explosive devices were found in various parts of Chechnya during the past 24 hours. A homemade bomb consisting of two large-calibre shells, a jet engine and a projectile for a Grad complex was found on the outskirts of Urus-Martan, a representative of the provisional press centre of the Russian Interior Ministry in the Northern Caucasus told Itar-Tass on Wednesday. An explosive device ready for use was found in a secret place on the outskirts of the village of Chiri-Yurt. Six mortar shells, three grenade launchers and a flame-thrower were also found there. The third explosive device, made of six TNT blasting cartridges with a total weight of 1.2 kilograms, as well as other ammunition, were found in a garage, situated in one of the districts of the Chechen capital, during an engineering reconnaissance operation. The police are looking for the people involved in the manufacturing of those explosive devices.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:32:32 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front
Fallen angel letters focus of ricin probe
Investigators are trying to determine if a mysterious "Fallen Angel" who sent two threatening letters containing ricin last fall is responsible for the deadly poison that turned up in the Senate this week. The earlier typewritten letters addressed to the White House and Transportation Department warned that more ricin would be used unless new federal trucking regulations were scrapped. The change in 60-year-old rules governing how often truck drivers must rest went into effect Jan. 4.

Three senior federal law enforcement officials said the FBI and Capitol Police Department were investigating the possibility that the same person or persons sent ricin-laced mail to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn. Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said investigators have found "no obvious direct connection" between the Frist incident and the letters signed "Fallen Angel." Those letters were discovered in mail facilities that serve the Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport in South Carolina and the White House. They were found Oct. 15 and Nov. 6, respectively, though the existence of the White House letter was not disclosed by the Bush administration until Tuesday. The letters, described as nearly identical, claimed that the author owned a tanker truck fleet company and demanded that hours of service rules for drivers remain unchanged, according to the FBI. The FBI said the South Carolina letter was contained in an envelope with a typewritten warning "Caution RICIN POISON." The letter included claims that the author could make much more ricin and would "start dumping" if the new regulations weren’t abolished. The envelope contained no delivery address and no postmark.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:17:36 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I can't believe a trucker is behind this.... I think they'd do something in the way of a Freightliner jamming down Constituion Ave with a load of live hogs....
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 7:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Just how labor intensive and time consuming is it to make ricin?
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 02/05/2004 8:48 Comments || Top||

#3  not very and a long weekend
Posted by: floatinginspace || 02/05/2004 9:28 Comments || Top||


Ridge says holiday security alert averted terrorist attack
My guess would be that he’s dead-on here and that same is likely true with all of the flight cancellations during the Eid al-Ahda. That gives us a window to kill or capture all the bad guys before they come back around to take a second wing at us.
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said yesterday that he believes security crackdowns over the Christmas holidays, including the cancellation of some passenger flights into the United States, averted a terrorist attack. But intelligence on the threat was so wispy that U.S. officials may never know for sure, he said. The volume of threat information from many separate sources, some mentioning the same cities and the same international flights, was alarming and unprecedented, Ridge said. It led to the raising of the national threat alert level to orange, or "high risk," on Dec. 21. The index was lowered three weeks later. "It was very unusual," he said. "My gut tells me we did" avert an al Qaeda operation during that time, he told reporters yesterday.

After checking the passenger lists for a number of U.S.-bound flights over the holidays, French and British officials said they doubted that any passenger intended to hijack a jet. But U.S. officials said that perhaps some terrorists did not show up for the flights or aborted their plans. "Their assessment of some of the information was different from ours," Ridge said. Although he said Washington, Paris and London communicated well during the holiday alert, there also were "uncomfortable" moments. Ridge said he took responsibility for some of them because, about Dec. 20, with time running out amid fears over some Paris-to-New York flights, he called Air France officials to insist they take some security precautions without informing French officials. "I created the tension over the holidays," he said. He also acknowledged that his call several days later for foreign airlines entering U.S. airspace to deploy armed air marshals annoyed some foreign governments.

U.S. officials are asking foreign airlines to send detailed data about passengers -- such as passport numbers -- to Washington when flights are booked, rather than when travelers arrive at the airport. Late-arriving information often causes U.S.-bound flights to be held on the ground pending checks, he said. Concerned that the public is becoming jaded about the threat warnings, Ridge repeated his desire to go to orange alert only in the most dire cases. Recalling one four-month period last year when three orange alerts were raised, he said "that horrible period" left Americans "anxious and angry." Overall, Ridge said, the entire business of canceling flights or basing national security options on vaporous intelligence is a guessing game, at best. "I can’t emphasize enough the incompleteness of the intelligence," he said. "You get bits and pieces. . . . It’s the toughest job in any war."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:09:09 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is something that has bugged me about the whole "Bush Lied" meme. Intelligence is by its very nature, an iffy art. At some point one has to weigh the potential consequences of doing nothing, to the potential consequences of reacting to a threat that does not really exist.

If you do nothing and you are wrong, people die. If you do something and you are wrong, well, that can be bad for some, and the question is whether it is better for the government and its people, than the other guys.

Ridge is not quite right. Gathering and analyzing intel is not the hardest job. Its making decisions based on what those spies and analysis come up with.
Posted by: Ben || 02/05/2004 5:40 Comments || Top||

#2  There was enough going on around Christmas that I suspect Ridge is correct in his assertion that we probably thwarted an attack. And, I appreciate his candor regarding mistakes that were made in the process. However, speculation like this is unhelpful because assertions without hard evidence will be used to discredit the entire WOT by those who do not believe it should be fought.
Posted by: JAB || 02/05/2004 7:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Our intel response would be even better if not for the PC rules on profiling. Without these rules we would have allowed the airplanes to fly and taken the arabs off the plane. But of course they would have sued so instead we had to block the whole plane. Thank you Norm Mineta and company.
Posted by: mhw || 02/05/2004 8:15 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm just afraid that we're about to experience another witch hunt with this. Not too long ago we (Army) were actually forbidden to say the word "collect" in regards to intelligence down range. I can't imagine mid-level managers getting more timid. If we don't get our act together soon, we better get used to the idea of the Islamic Caliphate of Texas.
Posted by: floatinginspace || 02/05/2004 9:08 Comments || Top||

#5  This is the hardest part about anti-terror activities. Sucess means nothing happens. How many sucesses can we have before citizens no longer pay attention? I'm not calling for Booms mind you. Just pointing out the paradox of these operations. You're damned if something happens, or damned that there "appears to be no threat" since nothing has happened in a while.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/05/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#6  An LLSO, floating?
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/05/2004 9:43 Comments || Top||

#7  yep, but with a different name
Posted by: floatinginspace || 02/05/2004 9:46 Comments || Top||

#8  I assume I have dated myself:)
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/05/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Maybe Ridge should think about plastering "Success means nothing happens" posters in every American airport...
Posted by: Fred || 02/05/2004 10:34 Comments || Top||

#10  he called Air France officials to insist they take some security precautions without informing French officials.

Hmmm..does that read that he insisted the airlines not inform French officials about their new security precautions?? snicker..wouldn't surprise me a bit if it did.
Posted by: B || 02/05/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#11  Fred - excellent idea. This is a tried-and-true means of conveying both obvious (to those paying attention - a wake-up to the rest) and subtle truth. Note to Ridge: Get on it, bubba!
Posted by: .com || 02/05/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#12  Yawl think about the pastels all you want... but I've been snaping my fingers.... snapin, snapin, snapin, see... works man... yeah.....
Posted by: Pincem Trio || 02/05/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||


Africa: East
SPLA sez NIF broke the cease-fire
Sudan’s main rebel group has accused the Sudanese government of violating a cease-fire agreement the two signed in 2002. The rebels say this could scuttle the Sudanese peace talks. The spokesman for the Sudan People’s Liberation Army, Samson Kwaje, told VOA a recent battle in western Upper Nile is the latest violation of the cease-fire the two sides pledged to uphold during their negotiations. More than 50 people were reportedly killed in clashes last week in Tonga, a town near the state capital of Malakal. According to Mr. Kwaje, Sudanese government forces shelled Tonga in an attempt to evict rebel troops from their base. The next day, he says, the rebels regrouped and drove the government’s forces out, killing two government soldiers.

But Sudan’s deputy ambassador in Nairobi, Dirdeiry Ahmed, says no Sudanese government troops were involved in the Tonga fighting. "We are having many militias affiliated with either party, with either the government or the SPLA, so those are the ones involved," he said. The Kenyan mediator of the Sudanese peace talks, retired General Lazaro Sumbeiywo, says the seven-nation regional grouping that sponsors the peace talks will investigate. "These [militias] are groups that move from one side to another," explained Gen. Sumbeiywo. "One group jumps to one side, and starts claiming an area where there have been the other side. So, it starts being a problem. But we are investigating."

The peace talks between the SPLA rebels and the government have been taking place in Kenya for about a year and a half. General Sumbeiywo says the Tonga battle will not disrupt the peace talks. But rebel spokesman Mr. Kwaje disagrees. He said the Tonga battle was the latest in a string of violations, and it may well affect the outcome of the talks. "Why should the government violate the cessation of hostilities [agreement], not only there, but they have been even attacking some parts of central Upper Nile. So, the government is out to maybe scuttle the peace talks," he said. Government spokesman Mr. Dirdeiry has said the government is firmly committed to the peace process.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/05/2004 12:03:31 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See, now here's an article BEGGING for some wise-assed Rantburg commentary!

Mebbe Fred will grace us with the administrator's editing password.

Then again, mebbe not :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 02/05/2004 1:47 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL! Better the 3 o'clubs than a knave o'the masses.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/05/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||



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