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-Land of the Free
Trump Admin. Openly Targeting, Deporting Famous Illegals
[CONSERVATIVETRIBUNE] Two high-profile illegal immigrants colonists who attained a degree of fame through their activism have been detained and/or deported by the Trump administration after receiving repeated stays in the past, The Daily Caller has reported.
Oh, come now! If they're "famous" then the law doesn't apply to them does it?
Ravidath Ragbir and Jean Montrevil, both prominent figures within the pro-illegal immigration group New Sanctuary Coalition of New York City, were detained and deported by Immigration and Customs Enforcement after years of being allowed to stay in the country at the discretion of federal officials ‐ in spite of the fact that both had been convicted of serious crimes.
I mean, where would we be if the laws were applied the same way to everybody?
According to the New York Daily News, Ragbir was detained by ICE on Jan. 11 and informed that that his reprieve from deportation would not be extended further.

Ragbir, executive director of New Sanctuary, was checking in at the ICE office in New York City when he was detained. While Ragbir had immigrated to the United States legally back in 1991 from Trinidad and Tobago, he was convicted of wire fraud in 2000, according to The New York Times

...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...

Ragbir received a deportation order in 2006, but in 2011 ICE officials in New York City gave him a reprieve of deportation. That reprieve was extended last April, but ICE officials informed Ragbir that reprieve would not be extended further. A judge will now decide his fate.

One week later, Haitian national Jean Montrevil ‐ a co-founder of New Sanctuary ‐ was deported after being taken into custody in early January. Montrevil, who had entered the United States in 1986, had served time on a drug possession charge and was in the process of appealing a deportation order.

According to The Intercept, Montrevil’s lawyer said his client "believed that he had reached an understanding with ICE officials."

The general consensus among members of the activist community was that these arrests were targeted acts.

"It seems really clear to us that this is an escalation of retaliation, not just against individual rights leaders, but against the right of the movement to exist," Mary Small, policy director for immigrant rights activist group Detention Watch Network, told The New York Times.

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While it was perhaps a sign that ICE feels emboldened to go after activists as well as everyday illegal immigrants colonists and those with deportation orders, this hardly seems to be "retaliation" or "escalation." If it is, it is only in the sense that the government has refused to enforce deportation orders, which ‐ at least to some activists ‐ ought to be totally meaningless.
Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So one drug user and one wire fraud criminal deported. What's the problem?
Posted by: 3dc || 01/26/2018 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  "14:58...14:59....Time's UP!"
Posted by: Frank G || 01/26/2018 6:55 Comments || Top||

#3  What's the bit in Groundhog Day?
"You must have a special line for emergencies or celebrities or something. I'm both. I'm a celebrity with an emergency!"
Posted by: ed in texas || 01/26/2018 8:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Now how about some Sanctuary mayors and governors?
Posted by: Skidmark || 01/26/2018 10:42 Comments || Top||

#5  So one drug user and one wire fraud criminal deported. What's the problem?

NYC's mayor wants them there?
Posted by: Pappy || 01/26/2018 11:27 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 01/26/2018 11:52 Comments || Top||

#7  That would leave a mark if the MSM would actually report it.
Posted by: gorb || 01/26/2018 15:34 Comments || Top||

#8  The Media do not report, they are NBN
Nothing but Narrative.
It is fantasy like hollywood or pravda.
Posted by: newc || 01/26/2018 22:41 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi Arabia jails two human rights defenders: Amnesty
[DAWN] A Saudi court on Thursday issued harsh jail terms against two human rights
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...
defenders despite reforms touted by the kingdom's crown prince, Amnesia Amnesty International said.

The court in Riyadh sentenced Mohammad al-Otaibi and Abdullah al-Attawi to 14 and seven years imprisonment, respectively, the rights group said.

"The harsh sentencing... confirms our fears that the new leadership of [Crown Prince] Mohammed bin Salman
...Crown Prince of Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
as of 2016....

is determined to silence civil society and human rights defenders in the kingdom," said Samir Hadid, director of campaigns for the Middle East at Amnesty.

"The crackdown on members of the human rights community has continued unabated, with almost all the country's most prominent human rights defenders now behind bars," she said.

Otaibi and Attawi were charged with participating in setting up an organization and announcing it before securing an authorisation. They were also accused of dividing national unity, spreading chaos and inciting public opinion by publishing statements harmful to the kingdom's image and its judicial and security agencies, Amnesty said.

Otaibi, 49, fled to neighbouring Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
in March last year and was extradited to the kingdom two months later. He co-founded the Union for Human Rights in Riyadh in 2013 and authorities ordered it shut after about one month, but he continued his work.
Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia


Europe
Eiffel Tower may have been target of Spain’s IS cell — report
[IsraelTimes] A new report suggests that the Eiffel Tower may have been among the targets of the Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
cell that attacked Barcelona last year.

The protective wall that surrounds the Eiffel Tower was installed after video of a trip to Gay Paree was found in a destroyed hideout, according to the report by researchers Fernando Reinares and Carola Garcia-Calvo in January’s CTC Sentinel, a research publication into terrorism. The cell attacked Barcelona’s La Rambla and a beachside town, killing 16 people in August.

Only flawed bomb construction prevented a deadlier attack. The hideout blew up as the cell was assembling explosives.

According to the report, based on interviews with Sherlocks and court documents, members of the cell traveled to Gay Paree before the attack, for reasons Sherlocks have yet to determine. There, they bought a camera and filmed the Eiffel Tower.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  ISIS dusting off old target folders. Some things, they simply do not change.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/26/2018 1:59 Comments || Top||

#2  I've always been surprised that these vermin have never attacked Hollywierd or San Fran.

Those seem to contain such perfect targets and would certainly get the media in a froth.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/26/2018 8:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Why would you attack your supporters?

Until you have total control, that is.
Posted by: Crotch Omemp1807 || 01/26/2018 9:21 Comments || Top||


German city bans new refugees as anti-migrant mood increases
[TELEGRAPH.CO.UK] An eastern German city has imposed a temporary ban on new refugees in an effort to stem a number of recent violent incidents.

Cottbus, about 120 kilometres southeast of Berlin, has been rocked by violence from refugees and right-wing snuffies since the start of this year.

Earlier this week, Brandenburg state police reported that two male Syrian teenagers were nabbed
Maw! They're comin' to get me, Maw!
under the suspicion of injuring a German teenager in the face with a knife.

The 16-year-old sustained non life-threatening injuries in what started as an altercation between Syrian and German school acquaintances near a tram station.

The incident happened just days after a group of three Syrian asylum seekers, aged 14, 15 and 17 years old, attacked a man and his wife outside a shopping centre, according to a police statement. The 15-year-old was handed a "negative residency permit" by authorities, effectively ordering him and his father to leave the city.
Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  The 16-year-old sustained non life-threatening injuries in what started as an altercation between Syrian and German school acquaintances near a tram station.

This article (in German) has some background information:

The Syrian pushed the German student against a standing tram wagon. He sliced the student's cheek the cut being centimeters away fro the carotid artery. In addition to the wound to his face the German sustained a defensive to his and and a stabbing wound to his thigh.

The altercation started when German classmates of a girl who'd been sexually attacked, robbed and threatened with death by one of the Syrians confronted these Syrians.

Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 01/26/2018 5:38 Comments || Top||

#2  About what one would expect, Elmerert Hupens2660, but very good to have confirmed. Here’s hoping Frau Merkel does not succeed in making a government with the socialists, and has to hold a new election. Even though it would mean European Conservative would have much work to do sooner than planned, to get his candidates elected, and even less time to share his perspective here.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 7:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Why do I have the feeling that DJT is the catalyst for this kind of behavior?

The Don starts calling a spade a bloody shovel and "getting away with it" and people go "Hey! Maybe we can do that too!"

Works for me.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/26/2018 8:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe the Euros are starting to wake up and smell the Vigoro hitting the Mixmaster, as Jack Webb once said.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/26/2018 13:17 Comments || Top||

#5  See the rise of Anti-Sanctuary
Posted by: Skidmark || 01/26/2018 13:45 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Turkish presidential aide lauds Muslims' role in Europe
[AA.TR] Ottoman Turkish Presidential front man Ibrahim Kalin on Thursday asserted that "Moslems are shown as 'the greatest threat' every day."

Kalin's remarks came during a visit to Bosnia and Herzegovina's capital Sarajevo, where he gave a lecture entitled "Islam-West Relations in the 21st Century" at the Faculty of Political Sciences at the University of Sarajevo.

Kalin addressed what he saw as the general patterns of perception about Islam and Moslems.

"When a Moslem person produces something beautiful, it must have been taken from another place, and according to their view, Moslems do not have their own intelligence, capacity, and this work has been taken from Christian art, Jewish art, African art or Indian art.

This is a wrong perception and pattern of thinking. The Moslem countries are not the richest countries in the world. These countries do not have the biggest armies in the world. They do not produce weapons of mass destruction. The Moslem countries do not have the most advanced military technology but somehow, Moslems are represented every day as the greatest threat," said Kalin.

Kalin said Western nations were mostly responsible for this characterization.

"They have the largest armies in the world, they control the world economy, there are weapons of mass destruction, atomic bombs and chemical weapons, that is the difference between perspective and reality," said Kalin.
Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte

#1  "WhenIf a Moslem person produces something beautiful, it must have been taken from another place,..."

There ya go, Ibie - fixed it for you!
Posted by: Raj || 01/26/2018 0:07 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
US rejects Pakistan’s drone strike claim
[AA.TR] The United States on Thursday rejected Pakistain’s claim that American forces were behind a reported dronezap in northwestern Kurram agency tribal region near Afghanistan border, which killed two suspected hard boyz on Jan. 24.

The U.S. Embassy Islamabad spokesperson, Rick Sinelsine, told local broadcaster Dawn News: "Pakistain’s claim that the U.S. forces have struck an Afghan refugee camp in Kurram agency is false."

Sinelsine, however, did not elaborate if there was any dronezap in the region on that day.

Pakistain insists the dronezap took place in Kurram agency ‐ one of the seven semi-autonomous tribal regions in Pakistain.

"The dronezap on Jan. 24 in Spintal, Hangu district
... Hangu is famous for its greenery, hills, beauty and water. Most of the people of this area are Bangash & Orakzai Pashtuns. Part of the Bangash are Shia. The Orakzai and the Sunni Bangash are determined to kill them...
, was on individual target who had morphed into Afghan refugees and not any organized terrorist sanctuary, which have been eliminated," a statement from the Pak military’s mouthpiece -- Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) -- said on Thursday.

It added that "Pakistain’s brotherly hospitality to peaceful Afghan refugees must not be exploited by the terrorists."

Islamabad already appears to be reluctant to increase the deadline for return of Afghan refugees despite requests from refugees themselves. And rights groups, which view the security situation in the war-ravaged country as non-conducive for the repatriation of over 2.5 million documented and undocumented refugees.

Already frosty relations between the U.S. and Pakistain -- the two allies in so-called war against terrorism -- have further nosedived since President Donald Trump
...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States...
assumed the office in January last year, mainly due to a clash of interests in war-ravaged Afghanistan.

Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Paks:" "You're a liar!"
U.S.: "Abottabad. You started it"
Posted by: Frank G || 01/26/2018 6:54 Comments || Top||


Govt stopped from taking ‘illegal’ steps against Hafiz Saeed
[DAWN] The Lahore High Court on Wednesday restrained the government from taking any illegal action against Jamaat-ud-Dawa
...the front organization of Lashkar-e-Taiba...
(JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, who had approached the court fearing possible arrest on account of a UN delegation arriving this week.

Justice Aminuddin Khan issued the stay order at the first hearing of Mr Saeed’s petition, challenging his possible arrest at the behest of United States and India.

Advocate A.K. Dogar appeared on behalf of Mr Saeed and argued that a delegation of the United Nations
...the Oyster Bay money pit...
was arriving in the country on Jan 26 and the government of Pakistain intended to take action against his client ’to please the American and Indian lobby’. The court directed the Ministry of Interior and Punjab
1.) Little Orphan Annie's bodyguard
2.) A province of Pakistain ruled by one of the Sharif brothers
3.) A province of India. It is majority (60 percent) Sikh and Hindoo (37 percent), which means it has relatively few Moslem riots....

home department to file written replies to the petition by March 7.

Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistain Proxies


Interior ministry has no information on Ehsanullah Ehsan, Senate told
[DAWN] The interior ministry was unable to brief the Senate on Thursday on questions seeking information about the detention and trial of former Tehrik-e-Taliban
...the Pashtun equivalent of men...
Pakistain (TTP) spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan
...formerly the front man for the Pak Taliban, then the lips and tongue of the Jamaatul Ahrar splinter group in Mohmand Agency...
, and the nature of cases against him.

In a written response, following a question raised by PPP Senator Farhatullah Babar asking if "Ehsan was under trial", the ministry said they had no information regarding this.

"Will the case of former TTP spokesperson be sent to a military court," Babar had asked.

The ministry said it had no clue pertaining to Ehsanullah Ehsan's trial, adding that the issue had been taken up with the civil intelligence agencies but they said "they weren't looking into the matter".

The interior ministry, however, said the case of Ehsan, who is reportedly in the custody of security agencies, would be put forward before a special committee as per the recommendations of the home department. "The case will be sent to a military court if the committee gives approval."

In December, Beautiful Downtown Peshawar
...capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa administrative and economic hub for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. Peshawar is situated near the eastern end of the Khyber Pass, convenient to the Pak-Afghan border. Peshawar has evolved into one of Pakistan's most ethnically and linguistically diverse cities, which means lots of gunfire.
High Court had barred the government from releasing Ehsan, asking the authorities to continue investigating the former bully boy.

Ehsanullah Ehsan, who had been associated with TTP and later its splinter group, the Jamaatul Ahrar
...A Pak Taliban splinter group that split off from the Mullah Fazlullah faction because it wasn't violent enough...
(JuA), reportedly turned himself in April last year.

Apprehensions regarding a possible pardon for and release of Ehsan were raised after his interviews to local media were released and aired.

Observers had asked why authorities deemed it okay to allow the representative of one of the most notorious terrorist groups space on national media.

Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat ul-Ahrar


Pakistan reacts at US airstrike on Haqqani network commander
[Khaama (Afghanistan)] Islamabad has strongly reacted at the the US dronezap targeting a commander of the notorious Haqqani terrorist network in the tribal regions of the country.

"Pakistain condemns a dronezap in Kurram Agency
...home of an intricately interconnected web of poverty, ignorance, and religious fanaticism, where the laws of cause and effect are assumed to be suspended, conveniently located adjacent to Tora Bora...
carried out by the Resolute Support Mission (RSM) this morning, which targeted an Afghan refugee camp," the ministry of foreign affairs of Pakistain said in a statement.

The statement further added that Pakistain has continued to emphasize to the US the importance of sharing actionable intelligence so that appropriate action is taken against bandidos murderous Moslems by our forces within our territory.

This comes as the local administrative officials said Wednesday that the US forces have killed a top commander of the Haqqani terrorist network in North Wazoo area of Pakistain days after the group carried out a deadly attack on Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul city.

According to the local officials, the US unmanned aerial vehicles carried out Arclight airstrikes on a compound of the Haqqani terrorist network in North Waziristan, leaving at least three dead.

The airstrike was reportedly carried out in the vicinity of Speen Thal Dapa Mamozai in Orakzai Agency
... crawling with holy men, home to Darra Adam Khel, the world's largest illegal arms bazaar. 14 distinct tribes of beturbanned primitives inhabit Orakzai agency's 1500 or so square kilometers...
.

Station House Officer Thal, Ameer Zaman has confirmed to the local Dawn News that the death of a man named Nasir Mehmood alias Khawari.

Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Haqqani Network

#1  I condemn their condemnation.

The Chinese will just love Pak support of terrorists who strike at Chinese hotels. They deserve each other.
Posted by: A. Ghibelline9825 || 01/26/2018 11:33 Comments || Top||


Jan 24 drone attack was on Afghan refugee camp
[GEO.TV] Pakistain Army Spokesperson Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said on Thursday that the January 24 dronezap near the tribal areas targetted an individual who had mixed with Afghan refugees.

In a tweet, the director general of the Inter-Services Public Relations stated that the strike in Spin Thall, Hangu District of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa was not on any organised terrorists' sanctuary.

"Out of total 54 Afghan Refugees Camps/complexes in Pakistain, 43 are in KP with overlap in FATA," said a blurb shared by ISPR.

It said that the incident validates Pakistain’s stance that the remaining snuffies easily morph into Afghan refugees' camps/complexes.

"Thus their early and dignified return to Afghanistan is essential. Pakistain’s brotherly hospitality to peaceful Afghan Refugees must not be exploited by the terrorists," the blurb stated.

Earlier today, Foreign Office (FO) Spokesperson Dr Muhammad Faisal said that Pakistain sticks to its stance that the recent US dronezap targeted an Afghan refugee camp near Kurram Agency
...home of an intricately interconnected web of poverty, ignorance, and religious fanaticism, where the laws of cause and effect are assumed to be suspended, conveniently located adjacent to Tora Bora...
He was likely responding to a statement by the US Embassy earlier in the day which denied Pakistain's claim that the dronezap struck an Afghan refugee camp.

According to the embassy's spokesperson, "The claim in an MFA [Ministry of Foreign Affairs] statement yesterday that US forces struck an Afghan refugee camp in Kurram Agency yesterday is false."

Pakistain had on Wednesday condemned the dronezap conducted by coalition forces near Kurram Agency and called the unilateral action detrimental to the spirit of cooperation between the two countries in the fight against terrorism.

The Foreign Ministry had stated that the strike had targeted an Afghan refugee camp.

According to political administration sources in the area, two people including a commander of the Haqqani Network were killed in the dronezap close to the Orakzai and Kurram Agency border.

Posted by: Fred || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Haqqani Network


Iraq
Peshmerga: truce with Baghdad fragile, troops remain on alert
[IraqiNews] The ceasefire truce agreed between Iraqi forces and Kurdish Peshmerga troops remains prone to collapsing, a senior Peshmerga commander was quoted saying on Thursday.

Sirwan Barzani, a commander of the Makhmur zone in Peshmerga, told London-based Alhayat that "ceasefire truce between Baghdad and Erbil remains fragile, and Peshmerga remain on alert".

Explaining his statement, Barzani said "there are no guarantees from Baghdad or the Popular Mobilization Forces (for sustaining the truce)".

Makhmur, which falls to the west of Erbil, Kurdistan Region’s capital, is a home to an Arab majority and a Kurdish minority. It was the stage of a military standoff between the two sides last October.

Iraqi forces took over Makhmur and other regions disputed with Kurdistan in October in response to a referendum the autonomous region held in September when a majority of citizens voted for independence from Iraq, a step which Baghdad deemed unconstitutional.

Both governments have recently exchanged official visits in order to resolve the crisis that resulted from the referendum, with reports suggesting an approach towards a resolution. Erbil hopes to lift penalties imposed by Baghdad over the referendum, including an embargo on the region’s airports and border crossings.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Macron: I Won't Recognize Palestinian State in Response to Trump's Jerusalem Move
[Breitbart] The Times of Israel reports: DAVOS, Switzerland ‐ French President Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday that he would not recognize Palestine as an independent state as a reaction to US President Donald Trump’s declaration of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

"I will not take any decision in reaction to any decision," Macron told reporters in response to a Times of Israel question on the potential recognition of a Palestinian state. The comments came during a photo op with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, ahead of their closed-door meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. The meeting lasted nearly an hour.

Several European nations, including Belgium, Luxembourg, Ireland, and Slovenia, are reportedly mulling recognizing an independent Palestine in response to Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem. The Slovenian foreign minister has already confirmed his country’s intention.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/26/2018 01:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...Oh, dear. Please. Don't.

(shakes head and walks away)


Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 01/26/2018 12:42 Comments || Top||

#2  "I will not take any decision in reaction to any decision," Macron told reporters...

Reaction direct? To decision?
Monsieur's a danseuse... a musician:
"Mais non! We reflect
On Versailles... then we act
In a vision of Gallic precision!"
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 01/26/2018 18:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Why would you recognize "a Palestinian state" is I wont?

All that property belongs to me. They are illegal squatters with terror bids and false doctrine as their food stamps. Their kindergartens are death incubaters, the phony "refugee" thing, you know about that. The tunnels, stabbings, runovers, shootings, everything from it is of death.

I don't want that so I AM saying do not pay for it.
Posted by: newc || 01/26/2018 22:35 Comments || Top||


Trump at Davos: Jerusalem off the table for Palestinians in future talks, if refuse talks then no more money
[IsraelTimes] US President Donald Trump
...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States...
tells Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that Paleostinians could face further reductions in aid from the US if they continue to refuse to negotiate a peace agreement with Israel.

Meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland
...home of the Helvetians, famous for cheese, watches, yodeling, and William Tell...
, Trump says "Jerusalem is off the table" for Paleostinians in future peace talks.

"We have discussions going with Israel on many things including trade," Trump says. "But the big move, and something that is very historic and very important, is the fact that we’re moving the embassy to Jerusalem," he says, adding that "it’s way ahead of schedule, by years.

"We anticipate a small version [of the embassy] working sometime next year," Trump tells Netanyahu.

Trump warns Paleostinians to return to the negotiating table with Israel or face further cuts in US aid.

"They disrespected us a week ago by not allowing our great vice president to see them, and we give them hundreds of millions of dollars in aid and support ‐ tremendous numbers, numbers that nobody understands. That money is on the table," he says. "That money is not going to them unless they sit down and negotiate peace," he says. "Because I can tell you that Israel does want to make peace. And they’re going to have to want to make peace too, or we’re going to have nothing to do with it any longer. This was never brought up by other negotiators, but it’s brought up by me."

He adds: "The hardest subject they had to talk about was Jerusalem. We took Jerusalem off the table. So we don’t have to talk about it anymore. They never got past Jerusalem. We took it off the table. We don’t have to talk about it anymore."

He turns to Netanyahu: "You won one point, and you’ll give up some points later in the negotiation, if it ever takes places. I don’t know that it ever will take place."

"But they [Paleostinians] have to respect the process also, and they have to respect the fact that the US has given tremendous support to them over the years, in terms of monetary support and other support. So we’ll see what happens with the grinding of the peace processor. But respect has to be shown to the US, or we’re just not going any further."

Asked questions by the news hounds, Trump says "thank you very much everybody," but then answers:

"We have a proposal for peace. It’s a great proposal for the Paleostinians. I think it’s a very good proposal for Israel. It covers a lot of the things that were over the years discussed and agreed on... There were never any deals that came close, because Jerusalem, you could never get past Jerusalem. People say I set it back. I didn’t set it back. I helped it. Because by taking it off the table, that was the toughest issue. And Israel will pay for that... They’ll do something that’s going to be a very good thing."

He continues: "But they (the Israelis) want to make peace, and I hope the Paleostinians want to make peace. And if they do, everybody’s going to be very happy in the end."

Asked if he’d heard Abbas’s recent remarks castigating the US, Trump says "I didn’t really read his remarks personally. I’m probably better off not seeing them. But we’ve done a lot for them, and hopefully they’ll going to to make peace for their people.

"It’s many years of killing people. It’s many years of killing each other. They have to be tired and disgusted of it.... I think eventually very sound minds ‐ I hope sounds minds ‐ are going to prevail. And it would be a great achievement of mine. I’ve said it from day one."
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  Bravo!
Posted by: 3dc || 01/26/2018 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  This goes over well upstairs.
Posted by: newc || 01/26/2018 0:33 Comments || Top||

#3  This will all change when President Kerry takes over, of course.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 01/26/2018 8:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Standing ovation!
Posted by: Angolunter Spawn of the French8436 || 01/26/2018 15:26 Comments || Top||

#5  About time someone started holding them accountable. Its impossible to negotiate unless there is a will to hold the other party to it, and to credibly threaten them with an appropriate punishment.

I imagine the state department career ninnies are in paroxysmal heart failure over this.
Posted by: Injun Bucket8891 || 01/26/2018 16:16 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Israel’s UN ambassador says Iran controls 82,000 fighters in Syria
[IsraelTimes] Israel’s envoy to the United Nations
...an idea whose time has gone...
says there are 3,000 soldiers from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps in Syria, accusing Tehran of seeking to turn the country "into the largest military base in the world."

Addressing the Security Council, Danny Danon says Iran controls 82,000 fighters in Syria, including 9,000 members of the Lebanese terror group Hezbollah, 10,000 Shiite snuffies from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistain, and another 60,000 Syrians.

"We are releasing this classified information because it is vital for the world to understand that if we turn a blind eye in Syria, the Iranian threat will only grow," he says.

Danon goes on to say the size of the Iranian-backed force in Syria is proof of Tehran’s intentions to sow chaos in the region and threaten Israel.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [19 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran Proxies


Saudi intelligence agency reportedly brought weapons into Iran
[IsraelTimes] An official news agency reports that Iran’s intelligence agency has confiscated large amounts of weapons and ammunition including bombs and grenades and officials are blaming Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
for bringing them into the country.

Yesterday’s report by the official IRNA news agency says the bombs were seized in the eastern part of the country and accused the Saudi intelligence service of bringing them into the country.

A second operation took place against a "separatist group" in the Kurdish town of Marivan near the Iraqi border, where authorities seized grenades and rockets.

In both areas occasional festivities take place between Iranian forces and IS-linked fighters and krazed killer Kurdish separatists.

Saudi Arabia has repeatedly accused rival Iran of sending weapons to Yemen’s Shiite Houthis rebels to fight the Saudi-backed coalition there.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Okay, so the western side of Iran has the Kurds. Eastern faces Afghanistan - so ISIS, AlQada and Taliban from Afghanistan with Suni read as Saudi weapons?
Posted by: 3dc || 01/26/2018 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Sure, but Iran has supported Al Qaeda since before 9/11.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/26/2018 10:50 Comments || Top||



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