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2003-01-16 Fifth Column

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Posted by Steve 2003-01-16 03:27 pm|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Actually, MoveOn only wanted a newspaper ad and begged it's membership for funds to spread the message - they were hoping for $27,000 for an
ad in the New York Times.

But the anti-warriors dug deep and donated more than $400,000! Now they've got a full-fledged print/radio/tv advertising campaign planned.

Damm it!

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2003-01-16 16:29:34|| 2003-01-16 16:29:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Here's the first 2 paragraphs from their e-mail newsletter today:

Today's the day. Today we're launching a hard-hitting TV ad across the nation to underline our key message: "Let the Inspections Work."

In December, we asked members to contribute $27,000 for a print ad in the New York Times. Within days, we had more than $400,000 committed to our ad campaign. This allowed us to do several print ads, including an ad in USA Today. To follow up, we ran a radio ad created by Betsey Binet, one of our members. But once we saw the avalanche of support, we knew it was time to go to TV.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2003-01-16 16:33:13|| 2003-01-16 16:33:13|| Front Page Top

#3 In the current climate, moveon.org better be careful that the ads do not backfire on their cause and lead public opinion towards nuking Iraq and North Korea first, before any of our little children are harmed.

Posted by JAB 2003-01-16 16:34:26|| 2003-01-16 16:34:26|| Front Page Top

#4 I am not sure if this group is anti-American or simply ant- Republican but they are clearly well organized. It would be nice to know more about the leadership of this group.

Posted by TJ Jackson 2003-01-16 21:29:48|| 2003-01-16 21:29:48|| Front Page Top

#5 From their website:

"Initial funding for MoveOn was provided by Joan Blades and Wes Boyd. We have also received generous contributions from many other individuals. Because MoveOn.org has only a tiny staff, our costs are very low. You can support our work with a secure online contribution. Almost all of our funding comes through these donations from people like you. Our charitable activities are supported in part by grants from the Richard & Rhoda Goldman Fund, the Curtis and Edith Munson Foundation, the Iraq Peace Fund, and anonymous donors. Fiscal sponsorship is provided by the San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Funds, a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code."

The Richard & Rhoda Goldman Foundation sponsors the usual run of envirogroups - Tides Foundation & Tides Center, Natural Resources Defense Council, etc. The Munson Foundation favors the same set. "Iraq Peace Fund" seems to be a subsidiary of the Tides Foundation. The anonymous donors may wear turbans when relaxing or may be domestic saps. The San Francisco guys are usual suspects - Bill Quick's probably familiar with them.

Posted by Fred 2003-01-16 22:50:00|| 2003-01-16 22:50:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually, the ad works AGAINST them: The Add suggests that being tough on Saddam would invite nuclear war on US soil. The standard scenario we all are putting forth is the saddam/terorist link: Saddam develops WMD, hands them off to terrorist groups, who smuggle them into the USA and detonates them. For the left to sponsor this Ad IS TO ADMIT THAT SADDAM HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS NOW.

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel, digging into the distant past (the 60's) for an AD from the era when the righteous liberals (Johnson) thumped the evil conservatives (Goldwater).

How convenient to forget who REALLY started Vietnam...

Posted by Ptah 2003-01-17 07:56:18|| 2003-01-17 07:56:18|| Front Page Top

#7 MoveOn started as an email-based group opposed to the Clinton impeachment (that's what we were supposed to "move on" from). Classic example of mission creep, they've become a general purpose Left/Demo group. Wouldn't rule out turbans behind the "16x goal" fundraising, but that's sure not where they started out.

Posted by VAMark 2003-01-17 12:16:42|| 2003-01-17 12:16:42|| Front Page Top

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