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2018-01-29 Government

‘It's a cover-up from the FAA at the highest level': Cockpit voice recording can't be used in investigation

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Posted by Skidmark 2018-01-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 It would be better to be quiet about this thing.
YOU are the Aviator and YOU must make the flight ILS ALS or however with maps, Compass, and protractor. We have serious issues with your laziness in navigation.

Among some is the ability to not check heading.

We are saving your face because we have a major defense issue and will be turning off GPS or changing it.

Long story

If you did not know about it, why not?

Posted by newc 2018-01-29 04:24|| 2018-01-29 04:24|| Front Page Top

#2 GPS was originally designed with selective availability, i.e. the ability of the US to degrade the accuracy on publicly-usable signal bands vs the dedicated military bands. But that was essentially abandoned by the mid 90s when static "pseudo satellites" became easy to install, allowing the accuracy to be recalculated on the fly.

The signal wavelengths for the military band have been publicly known for a long time. What is new now is not the potential for jamming but rather the likelihood that we have adversaries who can and would do that - plus the massive explosion of GPS-guided armaments, unmanned vehicles etc.

Posted by Snoluting Phomoth8901 2018-01-29 07:25|| 2018-01-29 07:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Perhaps they don't want to release racist jokes and sounds of cockpit sex.

"Not germane to the investigation."

Posted by Skidmark 2018-01-29 09:29|| 2018-01-29 09:29|| Front Page Top

#4 "Among some is the ability to not check heading."

I suspect the taxiway in question paralleled the assigned runway. And CRM can sometimes have a downside, such as when the Pilot Flying the approach turns the controls over to the Pilot Not Flying when the PNF calls the runway in sight (a not uncommon practice.). If the PNF screws the pooch things can get dicey. Contributory factors include the fact that the runway lights (lights distinctly different than those identifying the taxiway) were, apparently, not in service

This kind of thing is not as uncommon as some would believe. I've seen it happen and heard of it more. And the last audio on the CVR, I am sure, was a series of expletives.

Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2018-01-29 12:58|| 2018-01-29 12:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Comair Flight 5191

Posted by Skidmark 2018-01-29 14:31|| 2018-01-29 14:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Yawn, most likely because the NTSB is doing the actual investigation, not the FAA. By law, anything used by the NTSB cannot be used in a lawsuit. This is to encourage pilots, crew and interested parties to report incidents anonymously without fear of reprisal.

This law has been on the book for decades.

So story should be "FAA cannot conduct accident and mishap investigations. That is NTSB job. FAA can use the information from NTSB to improve regulations, etc. Again, investigation information from NTSB cannot be used in lawsuits.

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2018-01-29 14:51|| 2018-01-29 14:51|| Front Page Top

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