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2006-02-06 Europe
We Are the Folksong Army .... Danes March for Peace and Love
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Posted by lotp 2006-02-06 09:34|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Bollocks to that. Prime the Longboats and sharpen your axes...
Posted by Howard UK 2006-02-06 09:59||   2006-02-06 09:59|| Front Page Top

#2 The axes are in ? And the pikes, are they still on backorder ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-02-06 11:33||   2006-02-06 11:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Good luck with that folksong against suicide bombers. Hope it works out.
Posted by mmurray821 2006-02-06 11:48||   2006-02-06 11:48|| Front Page Top

#4 C'mon, is this some sort of post-modern theater of the absurd thing? I can see a few nutjobs doing this, but 3000? Maybe I shouldn't be surprised after the white hands protests in Spain after the Madrid bombing.

Kinda makes me ashamed to admit some of my ancestors were Danes (and then Swedes, then Danes, then Swedes...)
Posted by Xbalanke 2006-02-06 12:43||   2006-02-06 12:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Akhmad Akkari, spokesman of the 21 Danish Muslim organizations which organized the tour, explained that the three drawings had been added to "give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims." Akkari claimed he does not know the origin of the three pictures. He said they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. However, when Ekstra Bladet asked if it could talk to these Muslims, Akkari refused to reveal their identity.

Imam Ahmad Abu Laban has also so far refused to reveal the origin of the fake cartoons he used in his presentations to Muslim Leaders in the Middle East.
Imam Ahmad Abu Ladan is involved in an international group of Muslims who are known for supporting the anti-Western Islamist struggle of the school of global Jihad.

So, this jerkwit has voluntarily distributed additional cartoons of unknown provenance solely for thier inflammatory value, despite not having been published anywhere.

Doesn't this sort of transparent incitement set off any alarms? Akhmad Akkari needs to be held on suspicion of incitement until he reveals where the three spurious cartoons came from. Should he have any involvement in their origin, there should be major criminal charges awaiting.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 13:40||   2006-02-06 13:40|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't feel bad, X. Read yesterday's Rantburg:

"Queen Margrethe II of Denmark has called on the country "to show our opposition to Islam", regardless of the opprobium such a stance provokes abroad.

She said: "We are being challenged by Islam these years - globally as well as locally. It is a challenge we have to take seriously. We have let this issue float about for too long because we are tolerant and lazy.

"We have to show our opposition to Islam and we have to, at times, run the risk of having unflattering labels placed on us because there are some things for which we should display no tolerance."

"And when we are tolerant, we must know whether it is because of convenience or conviction."

The folksong ninnies don't get it and probably never will. Some even thought building them a mosque would ease tensions.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day:

"If we beat our swords into ploughshares, eventually we will find ourselves under the yoke of those who kept their swords."

The time will come when that will be possible, but for now, here's to keeping our swords (and battleaxes) sharpened!
Posted by ex-lib 2006-02-06 13:42||   2006-02-06 13:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Re: Zenster's comment:

This guy went on a tour of the middle east, blabbing about how bad the Danes are and how the Moslems in Denmark have no official mosque. Probably doing it to get money, and also to cause a rukkus--the cartoons were publish MONTHS ago in Denmark, and we're just hearing about it now. The whole thing's a set-up by the jihadiis to "unifiy" the Moslem world against the West.
Posted by ex-lib 2006-02-06 13:44||   2006-02-06 13:44|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorry about the spelling . . . my DOG is barking to get in and it is distracting me . . pretty insensitive of me to keep a dog, huh, since it it such an offense to Moslems.

May I recommend: http://www.nordicdog.com/ for some really great dogs -- and Scandinavian to boot!

Reminder: Have you purchased your Danish Havarti cheese today?

Also, why not send the Jyllands-Posten a note of support: http://www.jp.dk/ or email to jp@jp.dk
Posted by ex-lib 2006-02-06 13:51||   2006-02-06 13:51|| Front Page Top

#9 So, this jerkwit has voluntarily distributed additional cartoons of unknown provenance solely for thier inflammatory value, despite not having been published anywhere.

Doesn't this sort of transparent incitement set off any alarms? Akhmad Akkari needs to be held on suspicion of incitement until he reveals where the three spurious cartoons came from. Should he have any involvement in their origin, there should be major criminal charges awaiting.

Hey Zenster...

I thought you were saying earlier today that the whole incitement thing was good, over on the thread on page 4?

What was it?

As I said, more cartoons, please. Get these maniacs spun up to top speed right away so that everyone gets a clear picture of their sickness. This one is for all the marbles. The sooner everyone understands this, the better.

Well, that's what Akhmad Akkari _did_.
Posted by Phil 2006-02-06 13:52||   2006-02-06 13:52|| Front Page Top

#10 Yes, but fabricating ultra-inflammatory and obscene cartoons in order to cause violence is entirely different from publishing relatively innocuous parodies and satires, as the Danish newspaper did.

I want the world to see how overheated Islam gets from ordinary political lampooning. If Islamists want to unfairly cobble up truly hateful garbage to facilitate their own agenda, they need to be hoisted for all to see.

There is a difference and I'm confident it's one that you are able to recognize, Phil
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 14:48||   2006-02-06 14:48|| Front Page Top

#11 Yes, but fabricating ultra-inflammatory and obscene cartoons in order to cause violence is entirely different from publishing relatively innocuous parodies and satires, as the Danish newspaper did.

I want the world to see how overheated Islam gets from ordinary political lampooning. If Islamists want to unfairly cobble up truly hateful garbage to facilitate their own agenda, they need to be hoisted for all to see.

There is a difference and I'm confident it's one that you are able to recognize, Phil

We're not getting to see how overheated they get from ordinary political lampooning. We're getting to see how overheated they get from unfairly cobbled up truly hateful garbage.
Posted by Phil 2006-02-06 14:58||   2006-02-06 14:58|| Front Page Top

#12 Smash em
Posted by Ding Dangalang 2006-02-06 15:05||   2006-02-06 15:05|| Front Page Top

#13 We're getting to see how overheated they get from unfairly cobbled up truly hateful garbage.

While that may be your opinion, I believe the Muslim world would have blown their gaskets over merely what was published in the Danish newspaper. This is why I consider it important that any attempts to exaggerate this, especially efforts on behalf of Islamists to overblow this affair, are investigated and prosecuted wherever necessary.

Simple political satire will be more than enough to stoke the fires of Islamis ire. The world needs to see this and such a demonstration of Islamic intolerance should be free of ancillary hatemongering. Of equal importance is making sure that any attempts by Islamists to underhandedly escalate the situation are exposed for what they are.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 15:55||   2006-02-06 15:55|| Front Page Top

#14 Zenster, it sat there unremarked upon for about four or so months and it's only now, with the secondary distribution effort, that things have taken the turn they have.
Posted by Phil 2006-02-06 16:07||   2006-02-06 16:07|| Front Page Top

#15 Which is why I say that Akhmad Akkari needs to be investigated. If he is unwilling to identify the sources of the cartoons, he should be charged with their invention and be brought up on charges of incitement.

I'll still bet dollars to doughnuts that the original Danish cartoons are sufficient to ignite limitless seething. We need this to be shown for what it is so that the world understands what a humorless bunch of f%&kwits we're dealing with.

Muslims come across as skinless people living in a sandpaper world. Welcome to reality. Unless they can grow up and take a joke, they should be bombarded constantly with this stuff until they do something so stupid that the remaining world goes in and snuffs their butts.

Phil, have you taken the time to review the sort of cartoons published about Israel and America in the Arab press? They make the Danish ones look tame by comparison.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 16:22||   2006-02-06 16:22|| Front Page Top

#16 The British guy dressed up in a suicide vest had this to say:

Mr Khayam read out his apology outside his Bedford home.

"I found the pictures deeply offensive as a Muslim and I felt the Danish newspaper had been provocative and controversial, deeply offensive and insensitive.

Note, he's only talking about the Danish cartoons and those were enough for him to wig out.

Let's make something clear, cartoons or not.

Holding hands in public, making movies with sex scenes, dancing in public, men and women swimming at the beach together, women walking unescorted in public ...

All of these are sufficient reason for Islamists to want destruction of the West. The list is endless and our offenses myriad. There is absolutely no way on earth for Islam to reconcile itself with what most people consider to be progressive modern society.

Either we give up centuries of progress along with our freedom or we fight to the death with a bunch of violent Neanderthal fundamentalist morons. Your choice.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 16:32||   2006-02-06 16:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Muslims come across as skinless people living in a sandpaper world

Dang! That's good.
Posted by 6 2006-02-06 16:58||   2006-02-06 16:58|| Front Page Top

#18 Yes, Zenster, I have seen those cartoons. I also know most of them come from state-controlled media.
Posted by Phil 2006-02-06 18:16||   2006-02-06 18:16|| Front Page Top

#19 
DOD weapon procurement folks ARE paying attention. "nano div"

millions of skin thinning islamo cartoon robots followed on by millions of #80 sand paper robots are currently being tested.

Posted by RD 2006-02-06 18:50||   2006-02-06 18:50|| Front Page Top

#20 dayumn! - can we air-burst fiberglass insulation too?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-02-06 19:09||   2006-02-06 19:09|| Front Page Top

#21  I have seen those cartoons. I also know most of them come from state-controlled media.

Then it should be apparent that any Muslim outrage over the Danish cartoons is utterly hypocritical in nature. Furthermore, if Islamist interests were the source for the add-on images that were much more derogatory, then that perfidy needs to be exposed as well. Too often, Islamists willingly exacerbate situations of their own accord in order to milk the press like the last cow on the farm. I suspect that this is what has happened and doubt that this case is any different.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 19:55||   2006-02-06 19:55|| Front Page Top

#22 Zenster, the point is the deliberate, manufactured overreaction of the Muslim masses. It really doesn't matter whether what they are overreacting to is genuine or made up out of whole cloth by the imams and mullahs. The point is that they are demonstrating their intent to impose their rules on the rest of us by force -- unconcerned whether it be by force of arms, force of law, or force of mob action.

And someone here was right. They became overconfident and showed their hand too soon -- had they waited 10-15 years, Europe would likely have fallen to them without even a token whimper.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-02-06 20:41||   2006-02-06 20:41|| Front Page Top

#23 Zenster, the point is the deliberate, manufactured overreaction of the Muslim masses.

Fear not, TW, I'm well aware of it. As I said earlier:

Simple political satire will be more than enough to stoke the fires of Islamist ire.

My point is that even the most mundane sort of ribbing will elicit this same overblown response. And by "overblown" I do refer to the manufactured aspect of this.

We are watching a well-oiled (as it were) political machine parading around as a religion. People had better take note of just how orchestrated and manipulated these incidents are. Of even greater importance is the significance of such huge numbers of people cheerfully allowing themselves to be programmed like so many robots. Such surrender of autonomy is alien to many of us westerners, to where it seems quite unnatural when we see it happening so clearly.

I cannot overemphasize how important it is that Islam's hostile intentions have been let out of the bag so prematurely. This simple litmus test should be all that is needed. Sadly, with even our own state department caving on this issue, there are more hard lessons to be learned.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-06 21:48||   2006-02-06 21:48|| Front Page Top

#24 At some point EU and the US are going to have to face their own demons the peace-love-&-happiness LLL’s. This movement is what makes the Islamist belief they can win possible. It is this movement that makes the terrorist possible. This movement is what drags this war out and makes it harder to win than it should be. This movement is what makes Dictators willing to risk things like these riots across their nations to distract there people from the real problem them.

Islamist plays to this daily in there “Europe’s Islomophobia” and the Parris rioters were not criminals they were angered Muslim youth.


At some point we will have to deal with our own demons as well. A people that won’t fight for their own freedom and life don’t deserve such.

Not saying that the movement is the whole problem just that it is a problem that is ignored. And its ideals are allowed to be propagated as legit, “don’t question our patriotism” all the while they undermine a war effort, embolden a enemy, and do all they can to tie the hands of those who attempt to fight this war of survival.

They should be recognized and called out for what they are Radicals unfit for commanding a car more less a nation. And shamed out of the public spectrum as just that. Freedom of speech is great but there is no such thing as Freedom of challenge especially by reality.
Posted by C-Low 2006-02-06 22:16||   2006-02-06 22:16|| Front Page Top

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