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2006-02-15 Afghanistan
Iran now attacking the US in western Afghanistan
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-15 03:36|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Iran wants to create the United Islamic Republic consisting of Iran, Pakistan,Afghanistan,Uzbekistan,Turkmenistan,Kyrgyzstan,Tajikistan,Iraq,Syria and more if the faithful will follow will it work Yes it will Islam is a powerful binding factor that knows no borders Iran only needs one bomb not 20 or 30 to control the region time frame 5 to 10 years.

Comments on this and helpful feedback very welcome
Posted by T 2006-02-15 04:50||   2006-02-15 04:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Iran will come out of this as a rump Farsistan, the same way Yugoslavia resulted in a rump Serbia. Mark my words on this.
Posted by phil_b">phil_b  2006-02-15 05:46|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]  2006-02-15 05:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Ambitions like Iran's to empire based on a common feature amongst varied peoples, in this case Shina Islam, only work if there is equality for all those holding the common feature. In ancient Rome, that bind was the ability of any freeman with a certain amount of property to purchase the rights of citizenship if he wasn't born to it. Iran already doesn't treat its citizens equally -- there is discrimination not only against Sunni Arabs and Kurds, but also against Shiites who are not Persian (never mind all those who are other than Muslim; discrimination against them is a matter of ancient law and custom, and a matter of course). Iran is already dealing with riots and other small-scale uprisings in various border areas: the Kurds, the Tribals on the Pakistan border who kidnapped some Iranian soldiers recently, and so forth. Expanding Iran's empire will just expand their problems, even without outside help from interested parties.

And let's not forget that Iran's Qom no longer is the only center of Shia power -- Iraq's Sistani sits in Shia's main pilgrimage city. And he doesn't yield place to those uppity Iranian ayatollas, even if some of the smaller players do. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2006-02-15 06:44||   2006-02-15 06:44|| Front Page Top

#4 Sistani is getting pretty old and the Iraniofacists only need to wait him out. There are no strong Iraqi Shiite leaders with similar vision to follow him (Tater will try, but most likely meet an untimely demise after the Iranians are through with him.)
Posted by Mullah Richard 2006-02-15 08:09||   2006-02-15 08:09|| Front Page Top

#5 TW, you forget the Azeris who 20 million plus and 25% of the population of the Iranian (mini) empire.
Posted by phil_b">phil_b  2006-02-15 08:17|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]  2006-02-15 08:17|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't see the Paks going along with the MMs - after all they have the bomb too.
With regards to the MMs meddling in Afganistan, two can play at that game. We should support Afgans stirring up things in Iran.
Posted by Spot">Spot  2006-02-15 08:26||   2006-02-15 08:26|| Front Page Top

#7 You're right, phil, thanks!

And of course, it's Shia Islam, not Shina Islam.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-02-15 08:59||   2006-02-15 08:59|| Front Page Top

#8 I worry if Iran gets the bomb. But thier other policies I don't worry as much about. After all, all the things they've done recentley has just kept 150,000 soldiers on thier border. If they treated thier neigbors like equals, we'd probally have started leaving by now.
Posted by plainslow 2006-02-15 08:59||   2006-02-15 08:59|| Front Page Top

#9 The epicenter is still remains Tehran.
Posted by Captain America 2006-02-15 09:20||   2006-02-15 09:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Remember, if Iran doesn't use a nuke, there will be no nuclear response.
Posted by Perfesser 2006-02-15 09:24||   2006-02-15 09:24|| Front Page Top

#11 This time everybody will suffer with us

In other words, "We fooled around with the Taliban and got our Afghani @sses kicked. Now it's time for all of you to enjoy a chance."

"We are Muslims. I don't want the American kind of freedom," said Gul Ahmed, a 50-year-old laborer. "We have our religion and our culture. There is no difference between our culture and Iran's culture."

So much for the monolithic myth. When pressed, there is a unique and fatal solidarity amongst Muslims which will most likely spell their doom. We see it in the myth of the "Moderate Muslim" and we see it here when citizens of a newly freed country would rather revert to repressive theocracy than modernize.
Posted by Zenster 2006-02-15 11:22||   2006-02-15 11:22|| Front Page Top

#12 ...sees Iran's regional policy as "mostly defensive." "At one time, Iran sought the export of its revolution, but the failure of that policy has largely tempered such ambitions," Takeyh said.

Riiiiight. And the Soviet Union just wanted buffer states and ice-free ports - purely defensive moves.
Posted by Xbalanke 2006-02-15 12:28||   2006-02-15 12:28|| Front Page Top

#13 Add this to the Rantburg Vernacular Table:

MMs are Mad Mullahs

M3 or MMM is the Moderate Muslim Myth

Obviously, both Iran and Al Q want to destabilize Afghanistan. There needs to be a quick, overwhelming, and brutal ass kicking in Waziristan and whereever the MMs are staging for Afghanistan. That is the language that they understand. You cannot play footsie with these guys. If they mess around, they will be hurt, and they will learn. It has to hurt them personally to register in their brains. Google G'daffy and F111.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-02-15 15:34||   2006-02-15 15:34|| Front Page Top

#14 I agree with Phil's analysis as well. I think the end game of all of this will be the carving up of existing states in the area along ethnic lines. This was done in Europe during the middle ages but never actually happened in the Islamic world because Arab imperial conquest followed by European imperial conquest and artifical border creations.

(a) An independent Kurdistan that includes Kurdish land currently in Iranian/Syrian/Iraq and possibly Turkey. (b) an independent Baluchistan carved out of Pakistan, Eastern Iran and a sliver of Afghanistan. (c) An independent Pashtustan carved out of what is now Southern Afghanistan and the Northwest tribal areas of Pakistan. (d) Independent Shiastan carved out of Southern Iraq and the Shia Arab section of Iran (and possibly Shia section of Saudi Arabia) (e) Independent Punjab carved out of Punjabi Pakistan and Punjabi India (f) Sunni Mesopotania comprised of Sunni Iraq, Jordan, and West Bank with chunks of Syria.

From the Saudi border down they are mostly the same ethnic group so I have no idea what will happen down there.

Time frame is 15-20 years although some might happen sooner.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-02-15 15:37|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2006-02-15 15:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Remember when the North Vietnamese Army put on Viet Cong pajamas? Same thing in Afgarbagestan. Our enemy is Muslims, plain and simple. Take out their genocidal leadership and the whole edifice of Islam will collapse.
Posted by Spaviting Glavise6090 2006-02-15 16:35||   2006-02-15 16:35|| Front Page Top

#16 "When the topic turned to the U.S. activity, Zaman's voice dropped to a whisper. His information was sketchy, he said. "The American soldiers come once or twice a week. They come and they search. We don't know what they are searching for or what they are looking for. They come in their own cars and do their searches without talking to us," Zaman said."

Zarqawi spent quite a bit of time in Herat before taking over in Iraq. Rumors of Bin Laden and Zawahiri being in Iran would make me hope the Americans would spend a little more time in the province. The Pashtuns seem to keep everyone busy on the other border, providing cover for them to quietly sit all the action out. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
Posted by Danielle 2006-02-15 16:41||   2006-02-15 16:41|| Front Page Top

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