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2013-02-18 Europe
The Pope's Jews: Rethinking Pius XII
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Posted by Frozen Al 2013-02-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 A Pope did some things for some Jews, and it is News.

Whatever.

I would be much more moved by a Pope speaking out about the suffering of Coptic Christians, Chinese Catholics, wayward Anglicans, or Korean Pentecostals. Some of these people are actually forfeiting their lives in the sake of Christ.

Someone in Rome needs to put on his embroidered virgin wool Popy-pants and get busy supporting actual Christians before anyone cares about the occupant of the so called "Holy See", except possibly the modernized apostates who inhabit the new media complex, who will support anything that doesn't actually support the Christian Faith.

Is that the Pope we want? I think not.

(Conclave, I hope you are listening -- says a Lutheran to the Cardinals. You could fix Protestantism if you chose to. Yet you don't. For 500 years you don't. Amazing. Where is Christ in your life?)
Posted by rammer 2013-02-18 00:56||   2013-02-18 00:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Why is Catholicism the only religion where those who aren't Catholic get to rant and rail about what Catholics should do? If you don't attend mass on a weekly basis and give your time and effort to the church, I could careless what you think about my church. I certainly don't go around preaching to Lutherans about the dangers of homosexual unions and openly gay preachers. I could care less what Lutherans, or any other demonization for that fact, do in their house.

I say if you don't like the Catholic Church, go be something else. Don't try to change my church to fit your personal opinions.

Thanks!

Posted by Vortigern Whavique7596 2013-02-18 07:26||   2013-02-18 07:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Do you really think that Catholicism is the only religion where those who aren't Catholic get to rant and rail about what Catholics should do? Check out some comments here about Islam.
Posted by BernardZ 2013-02-18 07:52||   2013-02-18 07:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, we are at war with fanatical Muslims, and Americans are dying to fight Islam, so there religion, since it is the reason for the war, is open for comment.

You really don't see a double standard when it comes to the Catholic church? Which other large Christian denomination gets slammed in the press everyday? If I believed my paper, I'd think the Republican and Catholics are the roots of all of our problems.
Posted by Vortigern Whavique7596 2013-02-18 07:58||   2013-02-18 07:58|| Front Page Top

#5 You obviously aren't Jewish, Vortigern Whavique7596 dear.

You are certainly entitled to complain, but honestly, y'all have been at the receiving end of that nonsense for only the last five hundred years or so. Dishing it out, on the other hand... St. Augustine of Hippo does rather come to mind, you understand, and why he was such a vast improvement over his predecessors, from a Jewish perspective.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-02-18 08:59||   2013-02-18 08:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Of course, if you want to get theological, our good old boy the Jew, Philo of Alexandria, crafted many of the theological foundations of early Christianity and Judaism after the Sack of Jerusalem by Rome.

Pick an issue, resurrection, heaven, the hereafter, damnation, the sanctity of marriage, and of course, if you dig deep enough, the Holy Trinity.

Some religious scholars don't do their homework.

Pius XII was a strange duck with stranger ideas.

When the Catholics, whom I greatly admire and study very closely, got the message that Jesus HAD to die on the cross in order to save the world and fullfill the prophecies of Isaiah and David, they stopped the "Christ killer" crap and became more interested in reconciliation with the Jews.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-02-18 10:50||   2013-02-18 10:50|| Front Page Top

#7 I was raised in that reconciliation Catholic message, BC. After all, Jesus was a Jew.
Posted by Frank G 2013-02-18 11:58||   2013-02-18 11:58|| Front Page Top

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