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2006-03-03 International-UN-NGOs
So long, Europe. Hello, India.
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Posted by lotp 2006-03-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Contrast this comfortable, sleepy Europe afraid of disturbing the status quo with a vibrant, wide-awake India that is pulling itself out of desperate circumstances

John, can you comment on this? What's your take on this article?
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-03 00:35||   2006-03-03 00:35|| Front Page Top

#2 India learned during the 1962 Sino-Indian War that India needs to be strong and to have strong friends to keep the Chinese on their side of the border. The Soviet Union filled that role for a long time. Now that they are gone, we are the only country strong enough to back them against the Chinese, hence the new friendship.
Posted by RWV 2006-03-03 00:41||   2006-03-03 00:41|| Front Page Top

#3 I accept triangulation was the reason, RWV - but they have those decades of anti-Americanism deeply ingrained in their population. The only physical confrontation I had in Saudi was with a dickhead Indian who thought the Muzzy shithead who tossed a hand grenade into a tent full of his officers in Kuwait was both funny and justified. His baseline attitude was echoed by the other 4 Indians I knew there.

Then there's the issue of their anti-business government, which John has so eloquently described...
Posted by .com 2006-03-03 01:50||   2006-03-03 01:50|| Front Page Top

#4 The Himalayas do a pretty good job of keeping the Chinese on their side.
Posted by gromky">gromky  2006-03-03 02:48|| http://communistposters.com/]">[http://communistposters.com/]  2006-03-03 02:48|| Front Page Top

#5 The Chinese own the Himalayas. Own Tibet, and I suspect them of the current subversion of Nepal.
It's a downhill run into India from there.
Posted by Grunter 2006-03-03 09:42||   2006-03-03 09:42|| Front Page Top

#6 The spectacles are just a bit rosey.

India is moving our way, but from a very distant position. For a long time they'll be a fair distance away. We should encourage closeness, not emphasize difference.

Europe, however, is on the critical list, and much as I despise them, they are important to us. If Europe falls, it will not fall apart, it will fall to Islam. So we need to get them moving in the right direction. Perhaps with some tough love.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-03 10:09||   2006-03-03 10:09|| Front Page Top

#7 While we could do much to encourage the Europeans, but in the end, they have to do it themselves. There is little we can do to save them from themselves.
Posted by 2b 2006-03-03 10:15||   2006-03-03 10:15|| Front Page Top

#8 2b, exactly what do you think that we could do to encourage the Euros? No sarcasm intended, it's just that with the institutionalized anti-Americanism amongst their elites I can't imagine anything we could do (short of reinstating Willie boy) that would have any significant, positive effect.
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2006-03-03 10:42||   2006-03-03 10:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Back when Clinton was President, they derided him much as they do Bush now, although they never did call him stupid. That Rhodes scholarship thingy, I s'pose. They only like him now because he's not running the country.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-03-03 11:15||   2006-03-03 11:15|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm hearing rumors that this deal is much bigger than it seems. Allegedly it includes the Ruskies doing the construction work and their dumping the Iranian Moolahs, etc.

Must be some of that strategery that Bush is known for. But never mind, there's still the Katrina story, the Cheney buckshot, the port bullshit, etc., etc., etc.
Posted by Captain America 2006-03-03 15:12||   2006-03-03 15:12|| Front Page Top

#11 2b, exactly what do you think that we could do to encourage the Euros

I don't have any ideas, I just meant it as opposed to "not encouraging them", which seemed unkind. Can the Euros rise to the occassion? I don't know. But I do know that we can't save them from themselvs.
Posted by 2b 2006-03-03 21:14||   2006-03-03 21:14|| Front Page Top

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