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2007-03-25 Europe

German militant freed after 24 years in jail

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Posted by Dave D. 2007-03-25 06:50|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Last month, I heard part of a BBC Radio "Have Your Say" segment on this. Each German they spoke wth decried the release, but said that it was the law, th epoliticians and legislators ha decided, and nothing more was to be done. None of them suggested working to change the laws, lobbying legislators, or protesting to the judges. They were all sheep.

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2007-03-25 07:14|| 2007-03-25 07:14|| Front Page Top

#2 IMHO, they didn't talk about lobbying, protesting, or changing the laws because it doesn't work. European political parties always have to form coalitions, which requires compromise and consensus. Meaning, their positions often become indistinguishable, so voting or speaking out doesn't make a difference. Further, Europeans have spent centuries as serfs and are conditioned into that mindset; individually lobbying for change simply isn't, and never has been, a feature of the civic culture. Call them sheep -- or "good Germans" -- but their passivity is rational, based on the accurate assessment that their efforts would be wasted.

Posted by exJAG 2007-03-25 08:06|| 2007-03-25 08:06|| Front Page Top

#3 their passivity is rational, based on the accurate assessment that their efforts would be wasted.

And genetic. The one's who'd behave differently came over here centuries ago.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-03-25 08:09|| 2007-03-25 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Cut to first scene in the movie the 'Godfather'. When the state refuses victims justice, they go elsewhere to get it. In the end it undermines the power and legitimacy of the state when it plays these games. However, watch as the state will hammer any player who is a threat to its power far greater than any player who simply a threat to its citizens. It's not about justice. It's about power.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-03-25 08:37|| 2007-03-25 08:37|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree with exJag and as long as "They" use common law for terrorists it'll happen again.

Below is a timeline of Mohnhaupt's major acts as a member of the RAF. (From Wikipedia)

* 9 June 1972: Mohnhaupt was arrested in Berlin in connection with the RAF and sentenced to prison for involvement with a criminal organization, identity document forgery, and illegal weapon possession.

* Shortly after Ulrike Meinhof's death in prison in 1976, Mohnhaupt was, on her own request, transferred to Stammheim Prison where the majority of other RAF prisoners were held captive. In Stammheim Prison she met Ensslin, Baader, and Raspe, and was reportedly trained by them to become a leader of the RAF.

* She was released on 8 February 1977, and immediately went underground and continued her work with the RAF.

* Mohnhaupt was a major player in the German Autumn: she was involved in the 30 July 1977 killing of banker Jürgen Ponto, chairman of the Dresdner Bank board of directors in Oberursel, Taunus, during a botched kidnapping attempt with Susanne Albrecht and Christian Klar and was also involved in the kidnapping and murder of employer representative Hanns Martin Schleyer.

* 11 May 1978 Mohnhaupt , Sieglinde Hofmann, Rolf Clemens Wagner, and Peter-Jürgen Boock were arrested in Zagreb, Yugoslavia.

* November 1978 - Mohnhaupt was allowed to leave Yugoslavia for a country of her choice because West Germany refused to exchange Yugoslav prisoners for her.

* 15 September 1981 Mohnhaupt took part in an assassination attempt on U.S. General Frederick Kroesen using an RPG-7 anti-tank rocket

On 11 November 1982 Mohnhaupt, along with Adelheid Schulz, was caught entering an RAF arms cache in the woods near Frankfurt which had been staked out by GSG9 men. Mohnhaupt was detained and sentenced to five terms of life in prison with a minimum 24-year mandatory sentence by the Oberlandesgericht Stuttgart.

Posted by SwissTex 2007-03-25 10:24|| 2007-03-25 10:24|| Front Page Top

#6 That reminds me of New York Times' Terrorist's Bill of Rights

Restore Habeas Corpus
Stop Illegal Spying
Ban Torture, Really
Close the C.I.A. Prisons
Account for Ghost Prisoners
Ban Extraordinary Rendition
Tighten the Definition of Combatant
Screen Prisoners Fairly and Effectively
Ban Tainted Evidence
Ban Secret Evidence
Better Define Classified Evidence
Respect the Right to Counsel

Posted by SwissTex 2007-03-25 10:34|| 2007-03-25 10:34|| Front Page Top

#7 I was in Germany some of the time when this sh$$ was going on. They found a bomb in a fire extinguisher next to the military movie theater about a half-mile from my house. The United States should demand her extradition and try her for the attempted murder of a US general officer, and lock her away for another 24 years. When she becomes eligible for parole or other release, try her again for conspiracy. Keep working until she dies of old age - in prison.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-03-25 14:42|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-03-25 14:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Mossad needs to pop a cap in her worthless ass.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-25 17:06|| 2007-03-25 17:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Five terms of life for nine murders, and they let her out now? she should have been executed or kept in a dark cell until she died. Letting her go free is yet another instance of European depravity.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-03-25 18:12|| 2007-03-25 18:12|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 OP - I was there, too, for the beginning of it. Felt the blast at V Corps Headquarters in Frankfurt am Main. (Hoo boy, could I feel it - and I was already at home.) I vaguely knew the officer who was killed. We almost lost one of our own officers; he and his wife would have been right at blast central if his wife hadn't kept nagging that they were late for church. He was still white the next day.

That any of those bastards ever see the light of day again makes my blood boil. Warmed the cockles of my cold, cold heart when Baader and Mainhof killed themselves to "further the cause"; too ba all their buddies didn't follow suit.

The EUros are IDIOTS.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-03-25 18:47|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2007-03-25 18:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Wonder how she feels about having spent 24 years in prison, while her Baader-Meinhof buddy Joschka Fischer went on to become the Foreign Minister. If she's that well-informed about world events, let's hope her top priority is to settle some old scores.

Posted by exJAG 2007-03-25 20:01|| 2007-03-25 20:01|| Front Page Top

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