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2004-04-26 Britain

European al-Qaeda supporters openly call for jihad

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-04-26 12:17:16 AM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Native EUropeons excel at two endeavors: Totalitarianism and Genocide. As the EU morphs into the Neo-Third Reich should there be significant Islamo-fascist terrorism look for the Native EUropeons to send Muslim men, women and children to the ovens.

Posted by Garrison 2004-04-26 1:07:34 AM|| 2004-04-26 1:07:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 typical ny times blames it on bush invasion of iraq--which the twin tower bombers had a premonition of--not

Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2004-04-26 1:59:27 AM|| 2004-04-26 1:59:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Maybe it's time for tougher incitement laws.

Posted by Rafael 2004-04-26 4:17:36 AM|| 2004-04-26 4:17:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Rafael - I attended a football match recently where I stupidly referred to one of the Arsenal players as a gypsy. I did this within earshot of a policeman who threatened me with arrest for incitement. However, we have this guy, publicly spouting the worst kind of hatred in the same neighbourhood and he's not being touched. The law is simply not being applied to Hamza - prob due to the 'flypaper' theory one rantburger came up with recently. It's very handy for MI5 to leave this guy in situ and infiltrate his mob. I bet some of the nutters listening to him on a Friday morning are MI5/6 anyway.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-26 4:45:13 AM|| 2004-04-26 4:45:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Son of Tolui, if you read the article carefully you'll see that the incitements started in the 1990s ....

Posted by rkb 2004-04-26 8:27:13 AM|| 2004-04-26 8:27:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 In an interview on the BBC over the weekend, Mr. Blunkett advocated a stronger deportation policy, initially focused on 12 foreign terror suspects held without charge since the Sept. 11 attacks.
...and the Brits are pissed at us about Guantamano? Ho much you want to be that each EU country has a similar number being held without charges?

Posted by 11A5S 2004-04-26 9:26:33 AM|| 2004-04-26 9:26:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't think we're pissed-off with you over Guantanamo - Whilst some are concerned I think the man in the street understood the need for some such facility - thankfully we have our own Guantanamo - HMP Belmarsh. The returnees from Guantanamo should have stood trial for treason and been hung if found guilty. I dread to think who's being held in here - make Cap'n Hook look like a pussycat.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-26 9:30:38 AM|| 2004-04-26 9:30:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 11A5S - I don't think you should condemn our EU counterparts over this one. We have plenty among our own ranks who are upset over the fact that they don't get prime rib for breakfast in Guantanamo.

Posted by B 2004-04-26 9:50:49 AM|| 2004-04-26 9:50:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 To bad it is going to take mass slaughter to wake-up Old Euorpe.Thats what it took here.

Posted by raptor 2004-04-26 10:40:31 AM|| 2004-04-26 10:40:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 is there not any laws in euro regarding sedition?

Posted by Dan 2004-04-26 10:49:56 AM|| 2004-04-26 10:49:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 "To bad it is going to take mass slaughter to wake-up Old Euorpe.Thats what it took here."

Frankly, I don't think we're fully awake yet, ourselves. We're still trying desperately to hang on to our open, tolerant society, and still denying what is becoming increasingly self-evident: that Islam may be fundamentally incompatible with a free society.

I'm becoming more and more discouraged about our "Arab Democracy Experiment" in Iraq. While I'm willing to keep the faith a while longer, my hopes are running out.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-26 10:49:59 AM|| 2004-04-26 10:49:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Dave - the alternative is too awful to contemplate.

Posted by Matt 2004-04-26 10:58:16 AM|| 2004-04-26 10:58:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Why doen't the Brits spread a few rumors around.

For example they could say that there is gold and stuff in a few of these cleric's homes or Mosques. That would increase the chances of a crook being hurt when the Cleric and his folks defend their stuff from the breakin. Killing someone while defending your stuff can get you a decade in jail.

Or perhaps spread the rumor around that there is a large batch of ammonia nitrate being held at x location. When the Jihadists come to grab it a work accident can be arranged.

A rumor that a vast majority of bullets and weapons in the UK are packed using Pigs grease to get the Jihadists reluctant to use them.

Or an annoucement that pig fat has been used in the wood treatment on most caskets in the UK and although the process is being changed... Might convince a few immigrants to go somewhere else in case they get killed and buried.

Or an annoucement that that all cell phone calls and trips to Islamic nations are being monitored.

Spreading rumors should be done in the most denyable way possible of course. They can and should be denied by the government as untrue. But for a conspiricy addled culture there will be believers.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-04-26 11:29:27 AM|| 2004-04-26 11:29:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 "Dave - the alternative is too awful to contemplate."

Not for me, it isn't. Not any more.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-26 11:44:40 AM|| 2004-04-26 11:44:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 ruprecht -
Why doen't the Brits spread a few rumors around.
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A rumor that a vast majority of bullets and weapons in the UK are packed using Pigs grease to get the Jihadists reluctant to use them. Or an annoucement that pig fat has been used in the wood treatment on most caskets in the UK and although the process is being changed...

ruprecht -

Chicharones or "Fried Pig Skins" very popular in the US would be another thing to spread around.
We could send some to any creative person in the UK to maximize stress of the jihadis.

The only question is, With or without chili powder?

Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-26 12:16:43 PM|| 2004-04-26 12:16:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 "Sheik Omar spent much of his time Thursday night regaling his young followers with the erotic delights of paradise â sweet kisses and the pleasures of bathing with scores of women."

Then he says "Our Muslim brothers from abroad will come one day and conquer here and then we will live under Islam in dignity," he said.

Okay okay okay okay okay. LOL!!! This is so rich: Living under Islam in dignity (everyone got that bullsh-t picture? ) Compare with what comes to mind here: "the pleasures of bathing with scores of women." (You mean, an orgy, right?)

Okay okay okay okay okay. So. (LOL!) This is how it goes:

If you, as a Moslem man, degrade and oppress your females now--through the destruction of their self-worth and individuality, lack of educational opportunities, the horrors of infibulation, other various and sundry maltreatments, and by forcing them to wear silly outfits that constrict and "bury" their femininity--and then blow yourself up, killing a sufficient number of westerners along with you--you can then "graduate" to the grand level of going on to further debase "scores" of (very beautiful, flawless, in-perfect-condition, young--at least under 25 years of age--virginal) women (where'd they come from, again?) by placing them in the position (sorry) of being your private sex objects in some ridiculous, weak, teenage fantasy, where you're the star player and all these thousands of women, without question, somehow willingly, and with utter abandon, flock to pamper and tease "your very own" (and "oh, so special") ugly, absurd, lewd, lecherous, nastiness with "sweet kisses" and, ah-hem, other such things!?

They've got to be kidding? How unreal can these guys get? Talk about self-deception! Talk about a structured, sanctioned, justification for what these guys must engage in thinking about when they're by themselves . . . ( I will pause for a moment while we empty the contents of our stomachs . . .) And this is what they talk about in their "RELIGIOUS" mosques?!! And we in the West are worried about offending "sensibilities"--their "HONOR"--We're worried about transgressing on the supposed "holiness" of their places of "worship"? LOL!!! Come on! (And as one thinks about what they are actually worshiping in those places, the meaning of "pagan temple" suddenly gains new meaning . . . "worthy of destruction" comes to mind . . . )

Like I've always said, the WOT, from their perspective, is all about an attempt to affirm their empty, pathetic, impotent form of "masculinity."

This is the only way their little story could work (annoyed sigh): the "paradise" babes have 1) been "healed" miraculously of the mutiliation of their genitals--and all is simply forgiven and forgotten on that account (tra-la-la!), 2) have become totally "immodest" in polar-opposite contrast to their life here on earth (if you want to put it that way--I mean, WOW--goodbye burka, huh?!) and 3) have left their underdeveloped brains, as well as whatever smidgen of personhood they ever possessed, back on earth, in order to become the eternal single-focus sex slaves of some Islamotwerp who's totally in love with himself. Well, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it.

But, they must be alien paradise babes. That's it. Alien babes from the planet Ditz-o-rama.

Then these guys say they will "impose the will of Islam on the godless society of the West" and that "the imam was encouraging his followers to take over the godless society." WE'RE "godless?" US?!! LOL!!

These guys need to go home and figure out how to love their wives and raise their daughters. Good grief!

You know, this Islamic nonsense just keeps getting better and better.

Yet, once again, my motto rings true:

All Islamic pseudo-men need to die.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-04-26 12:34:40 PM|| 2004-04-26 12:34:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 It's going to end up being either them or us. It's not going to be "them" as long as I draw breath. It'll be a lot easier to start now, while we still have more people on our side.

Islam is the religion of the loser. Mohammed was pissed that Isaac, although born second, inherited the birthright of Abraham, instead of Ishmael, who was born of the servant Hagar. The Bible says that Isaac is the son of Abraham through his wife Sarah, which in old-testament times, would give him the highest claim. Islam is a re-write of history to "prove" that in actuality, it is Ishmael and his descendants (the Arabs) that actually are the "chosen of God", not the Jews. We have the same thing being done in our leftist "institutions of higher learning" today, with modern history. There are only two ways to end the argumaent: God Himself will have to come and judge, or one side kills the other off completely. Islam is betting on the second option.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-04-26 1:35:06 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-04-26 1:35:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Old Patriot -

I think a more pertinent arguement is that where in time the polytheistic Romans came to embrace Christianity, their descendants resisted Islam and for at least awhile drove it out of most of Europe, and the resistance became stronger over time.

The problem is the current state of the lack of self-preservation in certain European cultures such as France and Spain.

Those of us who are Christian, and prize Western Civilization, yet do not neccesarily take a Revelationist view of the future see a more practical opposition to the Islamists. Christianity and Judaism values life, Islamism seeks death.

Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-26 1:56:22 PM|| 2004-04-26 1:56:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 #13para 1:
"Killing someone while defending your stuff can get you a decade in jail."

Not bad,Rupercht,not bad at all.LOL

Posted by raptor 2004-04-26 2:30:20 PM|| 2004-04-26 2:30:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The Left is starting to wake up. IIRC, this is the second semi-honest article that the NYT has run on the threat.

The more that I read, the more that I am convinced that Europe is the strategic decisive point for this war. It's not that the Arab lands aren't important, I just don't see any opportunity for decisive action there yet. If we secure our strategic flank in Europe, then we can take the war to Dar al Arab.

And when I say secure our European flank, I don't mean in the Kerry-esque manner of being buddies with the French. We need a fundamental Lockean revolution on the Continent. Some of that is already happening in East Europe. Others, like Sabine Herold are trying to effect this change in old Europe.

We don't need Europe to fight Islamism, but Islamists need Europe to fight us. The task before us is to destroy 2nd International Socialism and replace it with Lockean government and Hayekian economics. If we don't, the Islamists will triangulate between Europe and us. Nuclear armed France in particular seems to be fond of coddling the Islamists. Meanwhile, the Islamists will continue to infiltrate a nihilistic and demographically dying Europe with the goal of conquest through high birth rates.

As long as Europe continues to absorb Dar al Islam's excess population and subsidizes and supports corrupt and theocratic governments, decisive action in the Arab core will be impossible. The Arab people need to feel the effects of their medieval policies. And by "feel" I dont mean not being able to buy the lastest in wide screen TV's. I mean starvation, civil war, and death. When these conditions exist that will mean that the Europeans have stopped enabling Arab backwardness. Then we can take decisive action against the Saudi and Iranian oilfields and begin drying up the money that funds International Jihad.

B: I agree and disagree. We have indivduals condemning Guantanamo. Europe has whole governments condemning Gitmo. Meanwhile, most EU states have anti-terror laws that make the Patriot Act look downright utopian.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-04-26 2:55:02 PM|| 2004-04-26 2:55:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Frankly, I don't think we're fully awake yet, ourselves.

Definitely we've hit the snooze bar here in the US. If someone were to show the planes hitting the buildings again in regular time (no music, no slo-mo) I think it would have the effect of cold water being thrown on any sleeper.

Posted by eLarson 2004-04-26 5:48:32 PM|| 2004-04-26 5:48:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Note to European appeasers and PC types: if you're lucky, you might be able still to save yourselves. Otherwise, enjoy what you've created.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-04-26 10:28:52 PM|| 2004-04-26 10:28:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 I SAY WE CARPET BOMB MECCA WITH BACON BITS.

Posted by WhiteHouseDetox 2004-04-26 11:54:59 PM|| 2004-04-26 11:54:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 ISLAMIST MAGGOT,GETTING TO PARADISE:"YOU MEAN THAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID WE WOULD GET A 72YEAR OLD VIRGIN???

Posted by WhiteHouseDetox 2004-04-26 11:58:39 PM|| 2004-04-26 11:58:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 HEH HEH HEH

Posted by WhiteHouseDetox 2004-04-27 12:01:39 AM|| 2004-04-27 12:01:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#26 HEH HEH HEH

Posted by WhiteHouseDetox 2004-04-27 5:43:39 AM|| 2004-04-27 5:43:39 AM|| Front Page Top

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