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2007-04-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

More details on rumor of April 6th Attack

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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-01 10:47|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I hope we do, and I hope we use enough force to drop these Iranian sons of whores back to the Stone Age.

Posted by Mac 2007-04-01 11:04|| 2007-04-01 11:04|| Front Page Top

#2 psyops? C'mon, MM's! Get smart! Take the stuff out of the sites and out in the open before we hit em....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-04-01 11:41|| 2007-04-01 11:41|| Front Page Top

#3 US forces were ready when they arrived, the preparation part is in DC.

Posted by Herman Sleling7674 2007-04-01 11:48|| 2007-04-01 11:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Again, a reminder. If we attack, it will do little long term good, though it destroys their nuclear program. All the scoundrel nations will line up to re-provide them with everything they need to rebuild.

For this reason, we must partition Iran. If they lose Khuzestan, especially, it will double or triple the time they will need to rebuild. If they also lose Iranian Baluchistan, four or five times. And, as good measure, Iranian Kurdistan, which along with Khuzestan, will completely cut them off from the Persian Gulf.

A "partitioning movement" would be *perpendicular* to their axis of attack, and roll up their air-attack-depleted military from the flanks.

Then we turn over the new territories to Iraq, Kurdistan, and Pakistan, for *them* to defend against a decimated Iranian military and IRG.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-01 12:01|| 2007-04-01 12:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Destroying Saddam Hussein's nuclear facility did little permanent good either, Anonymoose, but it gave us breathing space to elect George W. Bush, who removed that threat permanently. The same can happen to Iran, and if not, it removes the Damocles' sword currently hanging over Israel.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-04-01 12:13|| 2007-04-01 12:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Right, TW. Too often, we fall for the ANWR Argument™ - since one little thing, all by itself, will not completely and irrevocably solve the problem, we shouldn't bother with it at all.

Also known as the "Silver Bullet Theory".

Posted by Bobby 2007-04-01 12:22|| 2007-04-01 12:22|| Front Page Top

#7 For this reason, we must partition Iran.

I understand your reasoning, 'moose, and it does make sense. My only dispute is that any partitioning effort would require boots on the ground or, at least, some continually reinforced "no-fly" type zones. The zones would be needed to interdict any Iranian forces trying to counter partitioning efforts by the natives.

I do not think America's politicians or people have the stomach for that sort of protracted effort at this point, however much greater good it might do. Right now, all of us may have to settle for smashing Iran's nuclear R&D and hoping for more action downstream. The best we can hope for after that is a "rinse and repeat" if they try to rebuild any of the facilities.

As I have maintained in the past: If we hit the facilities during peak occupation we may be able to remove one of the most significant resources of all, namely, trained Iranian nuclear technicians and scientists. This would represent the biggest setback to their entire project as it takes years to educate and train personnel for these sort of complex operations.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 13:46|| 2007-04-01 13:46|| Front Page Top

#8 It seems George Carlin's alter ego, Al Sleet, is doing some part time consulting for RIA Novosti.

Posted by doc 2007-04-01 13:50|| 2007-04-01 13:50|| Front Page Top

#9 I'd like to see the free world gang up on Iran, blast all their ports and harbors, take out their refineries, destroy their nuc "research" facilities, tear up their airfields and military barracks, and level the city of Qom, all within about 12 hours in a spectacular "shock and awe" display. Use either conventional or nuke weapons - I don't care. Seed the rest of the country with mines, BLU-24s (cluster bombs), and whatever else we decide to do to be nasty. Confiscate every nickel Iran has deposited anywhere else in the world, and let them stew. The Brits can have Kharq Island as reparations for their soldiers. Maybe they can even re-annex Bushire (Busaher), like they did for a short time in 1919, only this time, permanently. If you can't live with the rest of the civilized world, you deserve to either be destroyed or conquered, and it's time to stop playing games with non-options.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-04-01 14:34|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-04-01 14:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Right on the money, Old Patriot! Iran needs an entire sixpack of whoop-@ss opened up on them. No holds barred.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-01 14:42|| 2007-04-01 14:42|| Front Page Top

#11 Why do these stories keep showing up? It is complete fantasy. What connections do the energy oligarchs have with the Russian media? It is obvious that the reports of this kind are designed to scare the price of oil up. Russia is the #2 oil exporter on the planet. I believe Iran might be #3. It is in their economic interest to create stories such as this that put the jitters in the oil markets.

Also be aware that a significant amount of Russian oil flows via Iran. For example, if a country buys Russian oil, they will work a deal with Iran where the purchaser picks up Iranian oil in the Persian Gulf and Russia replaces it via pipeline to Northern Iran. Iran basically acts as a Persian Gulf port for Russia.

Posted by crosspatch">crosspatch 2007-04-01 14:58|| http://crosspatch.townhall.com]">[http://crosspatch.townhall.com] 2007-04-01 14:58|| Front Page Top

#12 #4: Again, a reminder. If we attack, it will do little long term good, though it destroys their nuclear program. All the scoundrel nations will line up to re-provide them with everything they need to rebuild.

Let them, it makes the whole region slightly "Nuclear Poorer".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-04-01 15:43|| 2007-04-01 15:43|| Front Page Top

#13 Might not do any long term good, but it's high time the good guys started putting some points on the board. That said, this is a Russky April Fool's joke.

Posted by regular joe 2007-04-01 16:27|| 2007-04-01 16:27|| Front Page Top

#14 That is assinine. The russians are are phishing rumors to act relevant.

What the heck is a massive TLAM attack going to do against hardened, buried targets?

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-04-01 16:31|| 2007-04-01 16:31|| Front Page Top

#15 Asinine is exactly the right word. This report has no business being repeated without any confirmation. Smells like more of the kind of rubbish DEBKA would repeat. Honestly, just because someone says something, it doesn't mean it should be given any weight.

I doubt there will *ever* be any military action against Iran unless they physically attack someone else first. As for these hostage events, they could end tomorrow if the media organizations simply refused to report on them. Without the media coverage, these hostages are of no use to Iran at all. The wall-to-wall coverage the events are given are crucial to the game the Iranians are playing.

Posted by crosspatch">crosspatch 2007-04-01 17:16|| http://crosspatch.townhall.com]">[http://crosspatch.townhall.com] 2007-04-01 17:16|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Victor Emmanuel Grusong8179 2007-04-01 18:42|| 2007-04-01 18:42|| Front Page Top

#17 What kind of hardware are we goiig against?

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Grusong8179 2007-04-01 18:45|| 2007-04-01 18:45|| Front Page Top

#18 Insteresting to note a very recent article about succesful testing of the 30,000 bomb that also includes a rocket pack to give it 2,000 mph terminal velocity.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/dshtw.htm

Seems to me this article's release coupled with the timing and overlap of 3 CBGs in the persian gulf and the report of US forces massing along the Iran-Iraq border ( not I suspect as an invasion force but an anvil should the dipshits actually try a land offensive), all add up to significant, visible readiness. Then leaven in Newt's comments about taking out their sole gasoline refinery, and naval blockade to interdict gas imports, and you have the makings of a fine strategy. with levels of force, in the works. All open source info, so one assumes I'm not the only guy who looks for threads.....maybe the SAVAK analysts read the same stuff.

Posted by JustAboutEnough">JustAboutEnough 2007-04-01 19:01|| 2007-04-01 19:01|| Front Page Top

#19 Among other things, Russian Tor M1 anti-aircraft missile systems, delivered last year

The Russians backed off of plans to sell the mid-range S300s, though.

Posted by occasional observer 2007-04-01 19:35|| 2007-04-01 19:35|| Front Page Top

#20 BTW, the state-run company sold the same systems to Syria, not surprisingly.

Posted by occasional observer 2007-04-01 19:36|| 2007-04-01 19:36|| Front Page Top

#21 What kind of hardware are we goiig against?

Mostly vaporware combined with deceit and underhanded tactics, but apparently there is some Russian stuff we'll have to be careful about. Oh, and don't forget that allan is on their side, too.

Posted by gorb 2007-04-01 20:05|| 2007-04-01 20:05|| Front Page Top

#22 fuck allan

Posted by sinse 2007-04-01 22:07|| 2007-04-01 22:07|| Front Page Top

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