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2010-04-21 Home Front: Politix

LA cardinal: Nazism in Arizona immigration bill

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Posted by gorb 2010-04-21 00:26|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Used to be you could count on a Catholic Cardinal to have good education.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-04-21 07:13|| 2010-04-21 07:13|| Front Page Top

#2 The man has no idea what "nazism" means.

Posted by gromky 2010-04-21 09:07|| 2010-04-21 09:07|| Front Page Top

#3 In the US, the word 'nazi' has degenerated into a simple pejorative much like the other 'n' word, used as a base insult when any exchange based upon reason has failed. Not to be confused with actual and original intent of National Socialism which is indeed existent and being actively practiced under the many guises of other names to hide its pedigree.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-04-21 09:16|| 2010-04-21 09:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Mahoney is very well educated in the ways of feudalism. Free societies, not so much. Him and people like him are how the Catholic Church wound up being an enabling institution to a bunch of children-raping priests during this period.

To steal a phrase from Berthold Brecht, he's dissatisfied with the current people in this country, and wants them dissolved and to elect a new one. With more helots more accepting of abuse from the likes of him than we are.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-04-21 09:20|| 2010-04-21 09:20|| Front Page Top

#5 The Catholic Church. The streak continues...

Posted by tu3031 2010-04-21 09:48|| 2010-04-21 09:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Mahony is a gay leftist, famous for keeping pedophiles in his personal residence and vacationing with them, and wasting the Church's money on monuments to himself.
It will be a happy day when the Church learns how to avoid making such men bishops.

Posted by Skunky Angeack7024 2010-04-21 11:10|| 2010-04-21 11:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Correct me if wrong, but I don't think there were a whole lot of foreigners (of a different skin color) risking their lives to smuggle their way into Nazi Germany.

Posted by Frozen Al 2010-04-21 11:18|| 2010-04-21 11:18|| Front Page Top

#8 P.S. I also don't remember a whole lot of people trying to sneak into the Iron Curtain.

Posted by Frozen Al 2010-04-21 11:20|| 2010-04-21 11:20|| Front Page Top

#9 In Arizon we have a REAL problem with the border. Our Federal government is hiding from their constitutional requirement to defend our borders. Arizona is doing what they can to stem this assaul on our nation.

Posted by 49 Pan 2010-04-21 11:27|| 2010-04-21 11:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Mahoney is a dick. They are replacing him at the end of this year. He is responsible for sheltering paedophiles, pandering to the left, and massive liturgical deviance and abuses. He is a stain on Catholics. Benedict has replaced him with a far more conservative man and the leftists in the Catholic community are already squealing like the possessed pigs they are.

Posted by No I am the other Beldar 2010-04-21 11:43|| 2010-04-21 11:43|| Front Page Top

#11 the leftists in the Catholic community are already squealing like the possessed pigs they are.

That was the possessed herd of swine in Gethsemane, other Beldar? I'm not up to speed on the New Testament, I'm afraid.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-04-21 12:43|| 2010-04-21 12:43|| Front Page Top

#12 That would be swine in Gadara.

Posted by James 2010-04-21 14:14|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2010-04-21 14:14|| Front Page Top

#13 That's the one. Thank you, James!

Posted by trailing wife 2010-04-21 14:39|| 2010-04-21 14:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Mahoney is emblematic of the trash that started afflicting the Church in the 70's. The Archdiocese of LA is noted for its blatant heterodoxy that ofte crosses over into heresey, coddling of sacrelidge for the sake of political correctness, and in general leftist collectivist worldliness to the detriment of the spiritual lives of those in the archdoicese. He is gutless when it comes to defending the faith, and a coward when it comes to teaching in line with doctrine.

Mahoney has played host to some of the worst liturgical abuses like "liturgical dance", tribalism, and the introduction of some of the worst Church architecture ever seen. His massive spending on his residence and other wordly things is well known and has been ahrshly criticised.

He has defended pedophiles, failed to discipline sexually active homosexuals in the clergy and failed to speak out against active homosexuals in the laity.

This man is probably the worst Cardinal the Catholic Church has, and it will be good riddance when he departs.

The man replacing him, Archbishop Gomez of San Antonio was brought into the Bishopric by Archbishop Chaput of Denver. He has earned a reputation as a compassionate and orthodox Archbishop. If he follows Chaput, he will emphasize adherence to the magisterium of the Church, and attention to spirituality over worldliness for the clergy, and emphasize salvation for the flock he ministers.

I believe the liberals in LA are in for a shock, and this was simply one of Mahoney's parting shots of idiocy.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-04-21 20:47|| 2010-04-21 20:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Since the demise of the Soviet Union, all socialism is national socialism. And arguably even prior to that, international socialism was mere pro forma rhetoric, cos thats what Marx said would happen.

Although the Cardinal is using national socialism as a meaningless perjorative.

Posted by phil_b 2010-04-21 22:05|| 2010-04-21 22:05|| Front Page Top

#16 OS, why can't the Pope just fire a clown as bad as this Cardinal appears to be?

In fact, I'm wondering why, as head of the church, he doesn't fire a lot of priests (and a few nuns) who appear even to a non-Christian like me to have broken their vows a hundred times over?

I know the church needs priests, but I can't see how so-called priests who don't even teach (or practice) the church's main tenents can be of any help in spreading the church's faith.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-04-21 22:25|| 2010-04-21 22:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Bishops and Cardinals are generally appointed for life (only recently was there a mandatory retirement of 75 imposed). The amount of work and facts to be gathered for an ecclesiastical trial, as well as the years such a trial takes are enormous, and extremely difficult to achieve. For instance, even as bad as Mahoney has been, he has stayed close enough to the edge to be able to claim that we was "misunderstood" and bring doubt to anyone appointed for his inquisition. Short of being caught red handed or baldly heretical, its nearly impossible to pull a sitting Cardinal.

The reformation caused a lot of changes in papal authority in any realm other than doctrine and general policy, in the name of preventing the sorts of abuses that caused the 100 years war, the "Holy Roman Empire", the "Medici Popes", and other problems. Despite the Pope's preeminent public position in the world, he is still "First amongst equals" in terms of the charter of the Church, Bishop of Rome, and has constraints on things like that. For instance, he cannot relieve a priest on his own, it has to be done by the local bishop. And on top of that, there are various dicasteries that handle specific things, to make sure that the Catechism and Canon Law are properly followed in accordance with their biblical basis. Humans being humans, there are inevitable power struggles. The miracle is that the Church manages to right itself so well time after time.

The Catholic Church changes slowly for a reason - fast change has usually been very bad. Its the hurried changes of the 70's that are causing all the damage and making people resist fast change even to fix those mistakes unless its a return to orthodoxy and tradition (c.f. latin mass), so correcting the bad appointments of bad bishops is taking a while. This is one of the few flaws notable in Pope John Paul II's legacy: he appointed some pretty bad bishops in the late 70's through the 80's while he was fighting off liberation theology and communism.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-04-21 22:59|| 2010-04-21 22:59|| Front Page Top

#18 However, John Paul administrative staff did start to crack down, and since Ratzinger took an active role and pushed "zero tolerance", you can see a dramatic dropoff from 1986 onward.

The chart shows that a vast majority of the abuse occurred before 1990, and well before 2000.

The latest cases that have been in the news were all prior to 1985, and in many cases, the priests are now dead.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-04-21 23:07|| 2010-04-21 23:07|| Front Page Top

#19 "In Arizon we have a REAL problem with the border. Our Federal government is hiding from their constitutional requirement to defend our borders. Arizona is doing what they can to stem this assaul on our nation."
"49 Pan"

you got that right...

Posted by linker 2010-04-21 23:19|| 2010-04-21 23:19|| Front Page Top

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