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2004-05-24 Iraq-Jordan

No evidence of wedding at the attack site. Wotta surprise.

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-05-24 1:22:45 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The only wedding which 'almost' happened was that of Syrian terrorists meeting up with Iranian terrorists.

Now 40 of the rats which can no longer bring harm to anyone, ever again, can look long and hard for those 72 virgins...

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-05-24 1:33:37 AM|| 2004-05-24 1:33:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Virgins are few and far between in HELL, where they'll be spending a lot of time, in the coming eternity......Oh, I get it....they ARE the virgins......ha ha ha ha

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-05-24 2:39:21 AM|| 2004-05-24 2:39:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Wedding video on BBC website (surprise, sur-fnucking-prise) - could be a Jihadi discotheque?? (If that's allowed?!)

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-24 8:37:28 AM|| 2004-05-24 8:37:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 In response to Kimmit's suggestion that "Bad people have parties too" I would like to add that bad people often have the very best of parties - what with the devil having the best tunes etc.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-24 8:44:47 AM|| 2004-05-24 8:44:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Were the table settings tasteful?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-05-24 8:48:34 AM|| 2004-05-24 8:48:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't have tables do they... fuggin hippies.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-24 9:01:54 AM|| 2004-05-24 9:01:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 "At the site where a U.S. air strike killed 40 persons Wednesday, troops found âterrorist manuals,â machines for making fake IDs, and battery packs rigged for homemade bombs.

They found nothing to indicate a wedding party, as some witnesses have said, a senior military official said Saturday."

Well the main occupying force did bring its own WMDs - so is it so hard to consider that possibly they brought their own terrorist manuals, fake IDs et al as well?

C'mon, do you really think that they would admit to blowing up a wedding party?

Maybe it was done by the same unit that blew up the wedding party in Afghanistan - you know, "on a roll" now had the practice run now they've just completed the real thing.

They are the brave high-tech bombers that came before the Samaritan, you know, quickly by-passed the seedy-needy cause they're just too obsessed with being greedy.

GWB truely believes Jesus told him the slaughter from afar of sand grinders was the path to heaven, salvation and eternal life. Kill the camel herding tent dwellers so you'll have the chance to live a full life.

Posted by yorgos 2004-05-24 9:43:21 AM|| 2004-05-24 9:43:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Fred, any chance you could run up a set of tags to denote irony - I presume the above is unabashed trollage? Although the sentiment in your final line is hearteninng, I feel we must be a little more selective in the choice of our victims.. any news of baby ducks in vacinity of wedding?.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-24 10:02:08 AM|| 2004-05-24 10:02:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Yorgos writes like a Junior High student in San Francisco complete with the hash fogged logic and syntax.

Posted by Random thoughts 2004-05-24 11:27:48 AM|| 2004-05-24 11:27:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Well yorgos, we did admit to blowing up that wedding party in Afghanistan, so yeah we probably would admit to this as well. Do you have any facts to bring to the table? Didn't think so. Take your anti-American screeds somewhere else.

FOAD, you toad.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-05-24 11:33:59 AM|| 2004-05-24 11:33:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Kill the camel herding tent dwellers so you'll have the chance to live a full life. Sounds like a plan!

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-24 11:38:34 AM|| 2004-05-24 11:38:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 It's sad that there are carbon blobs like yorgos running around.....too bad his dad just didn't jerk off that batch into the toilet.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-05-24 11:45:08 AM|| 2004-05-24 11:45:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Yorgos: GWB is a freaking Methodist. If you'd get off your dead ass and learn something about American culture then you might know that. (I know. Our culture is very immature, so you much smarter Europeans just need to spend an afternoon reading an article in Paris Match to know everything that you need to understand us) He's not the evangelical Christian that everyone is always accusing him of. Just because religion is dead in Europe, doesn't mean it's dead here. We have hundreds of denominations that run the gamut from near agnosticism to hard core fundamentalists. Methodists are not fundamentalists.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-05-24 11:52:37 AM|| 2004-05-24 11:52:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Jarhead, dude, give a drink warning next time. That was funny. Damn funny.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-05-24 1:43:24 PM|| 2004-05-24 1:43:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 AHM, sorry bro', (rim-shot) I'll be here all week.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-05-24 2:17:35 PM|| 2004-05-24 2:17:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 posted by 11A5S "GWB is a freaking Methodist"

I guess that means he's on methadone, no?

It's plainly obvious to the whole planet that he's not a Christian. Like many that post here, he suffers from the Golden Calf Syndrome!

He's like one of those nodding little dogs in the back window of a car - nodding away to the tune of clinking coins.

As for addmitting to the Afghanistan party "incident" the admittale came so late it hardly got a mention in the press.

Posted by yorgos 2004-05-24 2:53:34 PM|| 2004-05-24 2:53:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Yorgos, your remark about Methodism once again reveals your utter and absolute ignorance of America and American culture.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-05-24 4:02:50 PM|| 2004-05-24 4:02:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Where are you from yorgos? Just curious where such an ignorant waste of flesh comes from.

FOAD

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-05-24 4:23:26 PM|| 2004-05-24 4:23:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Why do we always get the idiot trolls.

Posted by djohn66 2004-05-24 4:35:26 PM|| 2004-05-24 4:35:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Yorgos, first of all, if the methadone thing was meant to be funny, it fell miserably flat. Do us all a favor and don't try to make any jokes next time; your posts will do just fine.

As far as I know, Bush's religious faith runs very deep. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, fellow RBers, but I believe he claimed his faith was one of the things that helped him escape the death spiral of alcoholism that he was caught up in once upon a time. There's also a book out there, called, if I recall correctly, The Faith of George W. Bush, which explores it quite nicely.

And are you referring to the Iraq wedding? Get your facts straight if you want to even start to try and condemn us, first of all. Getting the country wrong doesn't help any case you might try to build. And how could it be "so late" that the press wouldn't pick it up? Are we talking time-wise here? They're still going on about it! They're ignoring the fact that he said anything at all!

And you'll have to be more specific on the Golden Calf issue. But I'll save that for another time - gold bars in the forge are almost done. Got to go.

Posted by The Doctor 2004-05-24 4:37:10 PM|| 2004-05-24 4:37:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Yorgos, is it too much to suppose that the same people who denied Saddam's atrocities, fabricated the deaths of millions from sanctions, and turned a blind eye to the oil-for-food scam, might, just might, invent a fictitious wedding party?

BTW, you're a fucking drunk, it's obvious from the way you write. No, look it up, dipshit: the presumption of clairvoyant authority is a clinical symptom of alcholism.
I think alchohol abuse literally, seriously explains why the BBC and Reuters sympathize with the terrorists: their British ~~drinking class~~ chatterati staff love the sweeping authoritarianism, the monumental hypocrisy, and the absurd pretense of morality. All are characteristic traits of both alcoholics and, oddly, teetotaling Islamofascists.

How strange, an irony within a paradox within a dichotomy, but there is a solution:
We know that the predispostion to alcoholism is inherited. Interestingly, so is the tendency to be a leftist, (see "red-diaper baby"). This brings the immutable laws of evolution into play: Maybe the lack of booze in Islamic culture prevents the selective elimination of those who exhibit these traits to the most egregious degree, since the worst examples would otherwise die of cirrhosis before they had a chance to reproduce.

The Arabs need a stiff shot of Jim Beam. We can send it in bulk on super-tankers that would otherwise be returning empty. It should be issued free of charge to all who want it, mixed with Mecca cola when necessary.
When the nastiest drunks have finally expired, the process of civilized acculturation can begin.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-24 8:00:06 PM|| 2004-05-24 8:00:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Listen AC - I'm no Sadamist sympathiser, and don't confuse Sadam with Islam either. He's no Moslem! And I'm not a moslem or an Islamist! I don't drink or do drugs, but who, other than an alcoholic or a drunk, would bother searching for for some obscure psyco-profilic definition pertaining to alcoholism?

Wake up! Denial is not a river in Egypt.

I find it amusing that many who post their opinions here are so fearful of differing opinions that they can only resort to ad hominem attacks!

The BBC and Reuters aren't terrorist sympathizers, where do you get such a ridiculous idea? Try to be a little objective and balanced in their reporting does not equate to "terrorist sympathizers".

Saddam was never the issue in Iraq - it's the oil!

Saddam could have been eliminated decades ago but he was needed, his meglomanic greed was needed to so deplete the resolve and souls of your average Iraqis that an invasion would not be seen as an invasion but as a liberation. hasn't worked, has it? We knew he (Sadam) wouldn't spend a dime on maintaining essential infrastructure, health and education - in fact we counted on it!

We let close to 1 million children die for our greed! We encouraged him for the past 15 years so we could go in and blow the crap out of everything and charge them for the cost of reconstruction and demolition! they're people just like us. They're mothers and fathers and we let them suffer. We were and are seen as the cause of their suffering!

By "us" and "we" I mean every democratic capitalist, including the Israelis!

You think you're a patriotic American - you're not! You're just plain ignorant! And the worst thing about that is that you've got your head so far up your own ass, and its been there so long, that you believe your shit don't stink and the crap you feed on is, somehow what the whole world needs to eat too! If I was recruiting canon fodder, you'd be the first on my list. Tell me can you play flight simulation games? I might be able to make a buck!

Posted by yorgos 2004-05-24 10:28:05 PM|| 2004-05-24 10:28:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Yorgos, Yorgos, Yorgos . . . where do I begin?

While I will admit that sometimes we're a little harsh on differing opinions here, I think that I'm starting to detect a pattern: we don't like it when people smear the United States in unjustifiable ways in addition to broadcasting their opinions. Often, the two don't work together very well, and it just ends up being an angry attack with any potential counterarguments obscured in a cloud of foam-spitting irrelevance. I seem to recall a few arguments with a guy named Aris that ended up in back-and-forth shooting - and yet, there were some good discussions with him, too. Coming here and attacking everything we hold dear just doesn't tend to work very well. It may be to our detriment sometimes, admittedly, but more often than not it just results in you being insulted and not getting your point, if any, across.

Ahem. Moving on to your other remarks. If the BBC and Reuters aren't terrorist sympathizers, then they are at the very least not terribly objective, either. Admit it: there are an awful lot of stories that make the US look bad. How many stories are there of Israeli or US attacks versus a detailing of the horrors of the Islamic extremists? No country with as many good intentions and honorable people as we have could possibly be as depraved as we are sometimes portrayed. Yes, we have our faults. Yes, we make mistakes . . . but how many other countries can do the things we can? How many other countries have made the kind of progress we have?

Now . . . regarding your charge that Saddam could have been eliminated decades ago but he was needed, his meglomanic greed was needed to so deplete the resolve and souls of your average Iraqis that an invasion would not be seen as an invasion but as a liberation. Do you really think that we had this in mind decades ago? Do you really believe that this kind of conspiracy could be carried out so efficiently, that a group of people twenty, thirty years ago could have said "We believe that we need Saddam because we need that oil"? That's simply not logical, not reasonable, and not possible. If we were that good, would we really have allowed things to get out of hand in Saudi Arabia, in Iran, in North Korea, in a dozen other places? What would we have to gain by manipulating circumstances such that half the world's a total disaster? We're trying to clean up some messes made by tinpot Islamic dicators. You want evidence that this ain't about oil? Look at the prices at your local gas station. Enough said.

As for that "1,000,000 children dying" thing, that's an obvious exaggeration, and furthermore, how many children died under Saddam? Answer me. How many? For every one that may have died, how many have we saved? How many have the chance for a future in which they aren't servants of a bloodthirsty egomaniac?

We aren't charging them for the cost of reconstruction and demolition. Hell, just yesterday there was a story here about how France was rejecting the option we offered for slashing the debt Iraq accrued under Saddam!

I'm sorry, Yorgos, but you're the one who's just plain ignorant. I don't normally condemn people like that - I actually got yelled at once for defending someone who few here agreed with - but your own ad hominem attacks and your obvious lack of understanding leave me with little recourse.

Posted by The Doctor 2004-05-24 10:52:12 PM|| 2004-05-24 10:52:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 it's the oil!

Ye gawds... how dim are you, man? That talking point is soooo 2002.

Posted by eLarson 2004-05-24 11:00:11 PM|| 2004-05-24 11:00:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Jeeze, you guys. One troll comes on screen and you write a diss-ertation. Lighten up. Go out and smell the flowers. Smile. Or think about that French diplo-dimwit who advocated Nukes for Arabs to counter the actions of Israel. In that case worry and weep. Just quit feeding the trolls, heh heh.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-24 11:13:28 PM|| 2004-05-24 11:13:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 The alchohol stuff hit a nerve, didn't it?
Again, shitbag, you started the ad hominems. It's quite pathetic and lame to provoke a pissing contest then whine when you lose.
Your failure to recognize sarcasm is just another indicator of humorless authoritarianism.

You make one pronouncement after another with nothing but your own opinion to back it up. Examples of BBC and Reuters bias are documented on this board every day, most recently when the Beeb ran the alleged Iraq wedding video without a word about its doubtful provenance.
Denial is your problem, not mine.

Your presumed power has been shot to pieces and you can do no better than respond with more lies and strawmen.
You are a troll, the equivalent of a lunatic making Napoleonic speeches in an empty room.
The posts are there for all to see. Now go away, you gibbering fool.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-25 12:20:14 AM|| 2004-05-25 12:20:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 Admit it: there are an awful lot of stories that make the US look bad.

Now why is that? Fiction? Just having a bad trot? An anti-US conspiracy?

How many stories are there of Israeli or US attacks versus a detailing of the horrors of the Islamic extremists?

Do the numbers - count the bodies!
Islamic extremist = 3,000 GWB = 50,000
Islamic extremist = 700 Sharon = 3,500

Because your "non-terrorist sypathizer" press ignores the numbers don't think that the rest of the civilized world blindly follows suite.

No country with as many good intentions and honorable people as we have could possibly be as depraved as we are sometimes portrayed.

Oh yes you can - remember it is not in the majority of times only sometimes. The only remaining superpower and you think you should be above scrutiny? With great power comes even greater responsibility. You're under the microscope and you don't like it.

Unfortunately at this present time in history Americas most visionary, ethical and honourable, academics and intellectuals are branded as non patriotic. A redneck has sneeked into the oval office! Four years ago when the race for the US presidency was on I and many other non-americans believed GWB to be potentially the greatest world leader in the last half century! Oh how his minders protected him and conned the world. it may surprise you that there is more interest in the US Presidential race by "foreigners" than by the very citizens your president is elected to represent. Your average European is more au fait with the American Constitution, Election process, Foreign Policy etc than your average American. And that is a sad fact! So when you hear criticism from afar while your elected leaders are bleeting how great thou art, instead of looking for the truth and reason behind the criticism you ignorantly denounce objectivity in favour of a protected subjectivity and threaten to drop a daisy-cutter on the first "insurgent" to voice objection!

Yes, we have our faults. Yes, we make mistakes . . .

Yes you do - ain't it good to be human!?
...but how many other countries can do the things we can? How many other countries have made the kind of progress we have?

Measure your greatness against you own standards not the shortcomings of other lesser cultures, for they measure your greatness based on your standards too.

Posted by yorgos 2004-05-25 10:06:10 AM|| 2004-05-25 10:06:10 AM|| Front Page Top

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