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2006-05-22

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Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2006-05-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Heh.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-05-22 00:11|| 2006-05-22 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 One day late. They missed a fabulous discussion yesterday.

Posted by Phamp Elmereth7476 2006-05-22 00:17|| 2006-05-22 00:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Fred's servers are gonna really be stress tested!

Posted by DarthVader 2006-05-22 00:25|| 2006-05-22 00:25|| Front Page Top

#4 I think PE means this one.

Read the whole day here.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-05-22 00:37|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-22 00:37|| Front Page Top

#5 don't forget the AQ organlegging little christian kids in pakiwakiland.

Posted by 3dc 2006-05-22 01:26|| 2006-05-22 01:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Thats just the tip of the iceburg the human tissue sales 3dc. They will and are doing anything to fund jihad.

If you are not a muslim you don't count because you are not a human. That is what 99% of the non muslim people on this planet don't know but every muslim does. Your life is worthless and the taking of it in any way a muslim wishes is OK. They still get to go to islamic heaven.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-05-22 01:37|| 2006-05-22 01:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Dang!

I was in the city all day yesterday and obviously missed out on a great debate!

I don't believe extermination of the entire muslim population is a viable option for any number of reasons.

I will post something more in opinions later.

Posted by DanNY 2006-05-22 08:33|| 2006-05-22 08:33|| Front Page Top

#8 "I don't believe extermination of the entire muslim population is a viable option for any number of reasons."

Yeah, too smelly.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-22 09:03|| 2006-05-22 09:03|| Front Page Top

#9 I don't believe extermination of the entire muslim population is a viable option for any number of reasons.

DanNY is right on this point. But it's a bit of a red herring. The real issue is whether we will be forced to kill large numbers of Muslims and take official action against Islam - or at least against certain forms of Islam - as an ideology, in order to defend ourselves and our civilization.

I hope not.

Posted by lotp 2006-05-22 09:32|| 2006-05-22 09:32|| Front Page Top

#10 Great stuff yesterday. I don't think any Westerner desires to exterminate an entire population, but the redical Islamo terrorists have defined this war, not us. We are backed into a corner of capitulation or respond with force. We have no other choice and that is frustrating. I still side with ol Alaska Pauls comments on our first strike should be at the money line. Taking away the funding and national leadership will take the weapons out of their hands will cripple their ability to hurt the US with another strike. I see the funding as the key logistical LOC that must be cut. Then we will isolate them and without funding they will wither away. Iran is still the center of gravity on this war and we should isolate and strike them. Only then will be in a position for the US to clip the radicals one at a time and keep this at bay.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-22 13:15|| 2006-05-22 13:15|| Front Page Top

#11 I still see the reality that large numbers "innocents" will have to pay for the actions and philosophy of fascists that have decided they are safest in hiding in their masses.

This is not a safe philosophy to let flourish and spread. Every day we put it off just means more will pay than need be. Every student in every Saudi funded madrasa is a jihadi in training for their war. Look at the results in Pakistan. The madrasas are spring up like wild fire all over the globe, even in the US of A. The time for setting around an navel gazing is over.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-05-22 16:35|| 2006-05-22 16:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Yeah, too smelly.

Can you beleive that they smell just as bad on inside as they do on the outside?

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2006-05-22 17:27|| 2006-05-22 17:27|| Front Page Top

#13 This entire topic has been ruminated upon several times hereabouts before now. In my own personal case, any support I used to feel for the so-called (and increasingly mythical) Moderate Muslim has been eroded nearly entirely by their collective Thundering Silence. Look closely and you will find that the suicide murderers are not the sons and daughters of imams and mullahs, instead they are the children of those selfsame Moderate Muslims.

They are part of a religion that greets apostasy with death fatwas. Until some small voice of reason tells them that this alone is reason to reject such a brittle and insecure faith, they are all entitled to what their religion dishes out in turn. It is this death-for-apostasy mentality that so perfectly reflects the zero-sum mentality noted in the linked thread. Any and all threats or competition are viewed by Islam as worthy only of death. Additionally, the culture is so void of progressive or innovative thought that they cannot possibly imagine any other mode of success save that of appropriating the wealth of others (much like Spanish colonialism). All of this points toward an entirely non-negotiable confrontation. What evidence has been given, to date, that Islam is prepared to compromise or negotiate? None, zip, zero, nada, zilch, bupkus.

Very soon, either al Qaeda or Iran will obtain nuclear arms. Just one single strike against the United States will thrust our economy back at least a DECADE. Glassing over the Middle East in retaliation will do nothing, repeat NOTHING, to reverse the deleterious effects of a terrorist nuclear strike upon American soil. An Islamic holocaust will prevent any further recurrence, but will not counteract the monstrous damage done to our nation should this come to pass.

Islam is in its "Golden Hour". Not its glory years, but instead that precious 60 minute interval whereby proper medical or surgical intervention can reverse impending fatality. The wounds that Islam currently accumulates are largely self-inflicted, merely regard the incessant Muslim on Muslim violence in Iraq or elsewhere throughout Islam's entire history. The last glimmer of hope for avoiding a catastrophic endgame in the Middle East is rapidly fading. For any of you who doubt this, I refer you to Wretchard's masterful summary of the implication of a nuclear exchange with Islam, "The Three Conjectures".

Link:

http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_belmontclub_archive.html

If you have not read this superb piece and the two addenda that precede it on the page (scroll half way down to the main article), I urge you in no uncertain terms to read it now. Whether or not Islam succeeds in subjugating the United States, all that awaits them is extermination at the hands of the Russians or Chinese. We would be insane to ignore this fact and immolate ourselves upon the altar of "soft power" for the sake of proving whatever merits of this dubious point.

Islam seeks nothing short of Global Cultural Genocide. It will not be satisfied with mere coexistence. Complete and total assimilation is what it requires. To recklessly cast off centuries of progress in the name of peacefully coexisting with a violent and regressive religion makes less than zero sense. Look around you, every single day another 9-11 happens. Another 3,000 people die , either directly at the hands of Islamists or because this minute fraction of Muslim fanatics have diverted such a outrageous sum of financial expenditure towards fighting their terrorism with heavy-handed security measures, that we now neglect far more important tasks; Such as fighting famine, disease, illiteracy or the ritualized abuse of women (this last is largely Islams fault).

Disregarding this brutal daily toll, consider what would happen if the Caliphate were installed. A regression back to the technology of 700 CE would entail the swift and tortuous death of half this world's population. Ignore the pogroms and jihads, focus only on the denial of so much "decadent" Western medicine that allows women to see male doctors. How many women would die of preventable illnesses due to the unavailability of female medicos? Now multiply this by all the other different culturally unacceptable factors that Islam finds inimicable about the West and the death toll skyrockets. The Caliphate would represent nothing more than Global Cultural Genocide

How much longer shall we countenance these constant and daily 9-11s until all of us cry, No more!? Islam has already shown itself willing to embrace death on any scale imaginable so long as it attains even a shred of its aims. How much longer shall we watch our daily lives be eroded by the intrusion of needless security measures (were Islam not a threat) and diversion of vital capital from the betterment of our world? How much longer do we have before Iran, al Qaeda or some stateless terrorist proxy wreaks nuclear havoc upon Western civilization? We have already witnessed Islams willingness to incur incredibly lopsided death tolls in pursuit of their domineering agenda. What more indication do we need before we begin payment in kind?

A relentless program of exterminating those who preach violent jihad must begin immediately. Abu Hamza, Yusuf Qaradawi, Abu Bakr Bashir, Moqtada Sadr, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hassan Nasrallah and all others who seek to re-ignite the Jewish Holocaust must be eliminated by hunter-killer teams. When those who would shout Death to America must first look over their shoulder, things will begin to progress. Only when advocating violent jihad brings swift and certain death will those who propel it begin to rethink their strategy.

America has received sufficient notice from the Muslim world that our way of life shall be forfeit in their hands. We must now show the steely resolve necessary to make Islams quality of life suffer in equal and advance measure to deter those who would inflict it upon us. Each day that we delay this brings closer an atrocity upon American soil by which 9-11 will pale in comparison. Islams obsession with holocaust and genocide must be laid at its doorstep with unmistakable repercussions for the least hesitation to abandon such. As shown in The Three Conjectures, this is Islams golden hour, they face their death knell by continued pursuit of dominance. Should the extermination of all Muslims be the price paid for ending this slow death of a thousand cuts, then so be it. My desire for such a holocaust is only in equal measure to Islams unwillingness to abandon its obsessive quest for violent conversion and Global Cultural Genocide

Posted by Zenster 2006-05-22 22:39|| 2006-05-22 22:39|| Front Page Top

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