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2007-07-08 Britain
Glasgow suspect linked to senior al-Qaeda figure
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Posted by Fred 2007-07-08 11:03|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ]  Top

#1 The IQ level required to pass medical school would seem to preclude being zombyized by rhetoric on the level of an infomertial. There is something that I am missing in this equation. Is the Palestinian terror Muppet Show actually effective in creating a race of Manchurian Candidates? Is Med school in Pakistan just an exercise in rote memorization for which a madrass is an excellent prep school? Should all highly intelligent professionals be watched closely for signs that they may embark on a diaper-clad spree killing?
Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-08 12:24||   2007-07-08 12:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Under britain's socialized medicine regime, all doctors do is tell you that you are not dying (even if you are) and to go home. The bar is set really low...
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2007-07-08 13:12||   2007-07-08 13:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Super Hose:
"Is Med school in Pakistan just an exercise in rote memorization?"

Short Answer: Yes

Long Answer: All "Education" in Pakistan is based on rote memorization, except for Christian schools. That is why leading families in Pakistan send their kids to Catholic schools (for example) so they'll learn to think for themselves.

That is also why Islamic Terrorists attack Christian schools.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2007-07-08 13:29||   2007-07-08 13:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Ever wonder why organic chemistry is the critical course in determining whether one is admitted to med school?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-07-08 15:08||   2007-07-08 15:08|| Front Page Top

#5 ---- Intelligent & educated people are actually more prone to brainwashing than the less sophisticated. If you doubt this statement, look at the faculty & students of our top universities. Medical education is also a highly coercive experience with many physical demands that disorder normal brain function. If you doubt this statement, stay awake for 36 solid hours & then engage in civil, well-reasoned discourse here on Rantburg. Will power and intelligence are highly overrated.
Wm. Sargant had this antidote:
The obstacles that the religious or political proselytizer cannot overcome are indifference or detached, controlled and continued amusement on the part of the subject at the efforts made to break him down or win him over or tempt him into argument. The safety of the free world seems therefore to lie in a cultivation not only of courage, moral virtue and logic but of humour: humour which produces the well-balanced state in which emotional excess is laughed at as ugly and wasteful.

To fill out your store of background information, read: The Manipulated Mind by Denise Winn, Obedience to Authority by Stanley Milgram, Battle for the Mind, by Wm. Sargant, and The Manipulation of Human Behavior by Biderman & Zimmer, for starters.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-07-08 15:37||   2007-07-08 15:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Not much humor in the muslim world.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-08 17:18||   2007-07-08 17:18|| Front Page Top

#7 If obtaining a degree in medicine at a Pakistani university is only an excercise in memorization, then diagnosis would be very problematic. An accuary would argue that a group doctors bereft of the ability to diagnose are a necessity to the viability of any system of socialized medicine.
Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-08 18:09||   2007-07-08 18:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Indian national Kafeel Ahmed, an aeronautical engineer with a doctorate from Britain, was one of the men held after a blazing Jeep was driven into Glasgow Airport.

Kafeel Ahmed [Suspect's grand plan]

Don't forget to send a prayer Kafeel Ahmed's way..

...Dear Lord we wish Kafeel Ahmed recovers consciousness and stays alert while he experiences a seemingly endless, excrushiatingly painful struggle for months on end followed by a stingy lingering hellacious death.

/amen
Posted by RD">RD  2007-07-08 18:20||   2007-07-08 18:20|| Front Page Top

#9 The fact that jihadland is qualifying aero engineers is disturbing as well. Rote memorization doesn't seem lik eit would lead to effective engineering of flying objects. Hopefully Boeing will forgo hring conferences in Islamabad.
Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-08 18:37||   2007-07-08 18:37|| Front Page Top

#10 Med schools in Pakistan generally follow the British curriculum. Classes and textbooks are in English. It is NOT about rote memorization; they learn to reason and diagnose. I've worked with a couple of Pak docs, and they were pretty damned good.

And yes, you still have to ace O-Chem if you're a pre-med :-)
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-07-08 20:28||   2007-07-08 20:28|| Front Page Top

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