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2005-07-10 Britain

Leaked dossier reveals the scope of UK al-Qaeda threat

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-07-10 00:54|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 1% this off by a bit I would venture. 5% to 10% spreading thier infection to all those around them.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-07-10 01:08|| 2005-07-10 01:08|| Front Page Top

#2 I expect to get some slams for what I'm thinking, but hey, who cares, eh? Just be werdz, after all...

I believe the UK campaign is just warming up. This will just bring more of the nascent / timid loonies out, those wanting to become "somebody" and issue silly statements and play jihadi. I expect more hits and soon. I also expect this will make wannabee jihadis in other Western countries jealous - just look at all that juicy media coverage. Gotta be a big draw for those inclined to join this sort of shit in the first place. Yeah, I expect many of the homegrown types to come out of the woodwork - everywhere they exist in numbers and have resources. Plenty to go around.

Yeah, I know it was fiction, but what was the line by the crazy Irishman in Braveheart?

"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."

I think the sentiment applies to all (countries) in the West - who delay getting down and dirty. Burning down a moskkk isn't the answer. Those unwilling to show their bellies, Zappie style, will have to get ugly - starting with the imams. Dead is good. Deported can be good, if their home country also want a piece and is willing to go the distance. Jail just don't cut it - recall Lynne Stewart and Abdul Rahman. It's clearly get serious or else time.

Posted by .com 2005-07-10 03:50|| 2005-07-10 03:50|| Front Page Top

#3 A joint Home Office and Foreign Office dossier â Young Muslims and Extremism â prepared for the prime minister last year, said Britain might now be harbouring thousands of Al-Qaeda sympathisers.

As you sow, so shall you reap.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-07-10 04:15|| 2005-07-10 04:15|| Front Page Top

#4 What is that saying -- something about being balanced between hope and fear? I hope you are wrong, .com, but I fear me you are very, very right. And it would be awfully easy to go from PLO sympathizer to AQ sympathizer, which would deepen the pool the terrorists swim in considerably, dammit! I would very much like to know how many over there have now realized the folly of that particular attitude, just as I would like to know if that little excitement in London changed any minds on this side of the pond.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-10 06:00|| 2005-07-10 06:00|| Front Page Top

#5 A network of âextremist recruitersâ is circulating on campuses...

Well, then thank God the moderate muslims are turning these guys over to authorities!

What? They're not? Oh.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-07-10 12:36|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-07-10 12:36|| Front Page Top

#6 trailing wife:

I think you've gotten to a key aspect of the situation. Paleo sympathy is localized to a specific location, with definable issues. AQ sympathy is generalized and pervasive geographically, and the issues are amorphous, having to do with the persecution of muslims/war against islam, the desire to restore the caliphate and the elimination of all nonbelievers.

It's a slippery slope to go from one to the other. And it's an especially easy one for muslims, given that their religion is based on followership and not reasoned debate and exploration of ideas. Can't question the infinite wisdom of the imams.

If only the european petrowhores had condemned pali terror. If only the arab states did too. But then, we'd live in a very different world, wouldn't we?

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-07-10 14:08|| 2005-07-10 14:08|| Front Page Top

#7 .com, I have been reading the book, The Interragators this weekend at my folk's house. It is a first hand account of the army interragation shops in Kandahar and Bagram. They ran several ruses during their questioning that were interesting as possible real policies. At one point the interragators upset the detainees with a rumour that a law was being passed that would allow the US or UK governemnt to expel the families of terrorrists to their country of origin. This was most upsetting to the prisonners from North Africa.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-10 17:35|| 2005-07-10 17:35|| Front Page Top

#8 I wonder if the analyst bothered to send it to Tony Blair at all or whether it was leaked to the press straight away.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-10 17:36|| 2005-07-10 17:36|| Front Page Top

#9 I have a problem that they knew who but did little but watch them spread their roots and grow.

But then I guess I've only said that only about three million, four hundred and fifty seven times. I guess I just hope maybe somebody will hear my tiny little voice calling in the wilderness.

Posted by 2b 2005-07-10 18:39|| 2005-07-10 18:39|| Front Page Top

#10 maybe if we want to get at the roots of terrorism, we should start by ripping them out the roots here, instead of pouring water on them and watching to see how big they can grow. sigh

Posted by 2b 2005-07-10 18:51|| 2005-07-10 18:51|| Front Page Top

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