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2005-07-13 Britain

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Posted by Steve 2005-07-13 09:21|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Tony Blair today said he intended to tighten the Government's controversial anti-terror laws after the London bombings which claimed 52 lives.
Mr Blair also said measures were in hand to fast-track the deportation of radical priests, to prevent them from spreading what he described as their "evil and extreme ideology", springing from a "perverted and poisonous misinterpretation of Islam".

Today Mrr Blair said that in the next 14 days proposals would be published to tighten the anti-terror laws - including the controversial control orders - which scraped its way onto the statute book at the end of the last Parliamentary session. The focus would be on measures to combat the incitement and instigation of terrorism.

The Government would also look urgently at how to strengthen the process for deporting the hardline priests who incite hatred. He said this would involve opening up dialogue with Muslim leaders both at home and abroad to mobilise the "moderate and true voice of Islam". He added: "I think we all know that security measures alone are not going to deal with this."

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-07-13 09:43|| 2005-07-13 09:43|| Front Page Top

#2 He said this would involve opening up dialogue with Muslim leaders both at home and abroad to mobilise the "moderate and true voice of Islam".

Good luck with that.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-07-13 09:54|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-07-13 09:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Paki terror wotta surprise - thanks ISI!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-07-13 10:10|| 2005-07-13 10:10|| Front Page Top

#4 oooh...another mastermind. Of course, in Islam, it just means they mind the master.

Posted by 2b 2005-07-13 10:21|| 2005-07-13 10:21|| Front Page Top

#5 I think everyone is barking up the wrong tree about the whole Moslem terrorist deal. In the case it was probably their association with the chip shop that drove them all over the edge. I recommend that any legislation include sanctions against chip shops. Maybe they should just close all the chip shops.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-13 11:46|| 2005-07-13 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 "The Government would also look urgently at how to strengthen the process for deporting the hardline priests who incite hatred"

Very good.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-07-13 11:57|| 2005-07-13 11:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Is importing/deporting the problem actually much of an answer in the end? Why inflict the scum upon somebody else?

Posted by Shadow 2005-07-13 12:24|| 2005-07-13 12:24|| Front Page Top

#8 "The Government would also look urgently at how to strengthen the process for deporting the hardline priests who incite hatred"

1. Islam doesn't have priests.

2. Assuming one meant 'imans' instead of priests, the imans could delegate the incitement or simply make available audio tapes, etc. There would be a few imans who just can't help themselves and would be deported but the fact that some hatespeach imans would be given a pass would likely inspire others to go up to the new line. Frankly, I think Britain needs:

1. their own version of the patriot act
2. invite famous apostates from Islam (ibn warraq, hirsi ali, ali sina) to give their side of the issue on the BBC
3. we all need an honest translation of the koran which for every verse tells about which verses contradict it in the koran, which hardline sharia fatwahs have used the verse to justify murder etc. --- actually, I think some people are working on this but the project is underfunded and its a lot of work and will take awhile to complete

Posted by mhw 2005-07-13 12:30|| 2005-07-13 12:30|| Front Page Top

#9 Liberalhawk commented the following: "The Government would also look urgently at how to strengthen the process for deporting the hardline priests who incite hatred"

with:

Very good.

No. Deporting them is not Very good. Good would be to detonate crackers in their ass, weak enough crackers so they have a loooooong and painful agony. Very good would be restarting the penalties for treason in Henry VIII times.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-07-13 12:33|| 2005-07-13 12:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Blair needs to call Perv and instruct him to shut down the terrorist training camps.

Posted by john 2005-07-13 12:50|| 2005-07-13 12:50|| Front Page Top

#11 I think these Muslim extremists have not been satisfied with turning their own countries into a living hell but wish to extend that stupidity to the West. Even the Iraq insurgency demonstrates a lack on any logic. If they are Muslims why do these fools kill other Muslims more than they kill American troops. Fortunately for them our countries are run by idiots who are too weak kneed to round them up and get them out. We should throw all radical Muslims out of our countries immediately. We need to show a united front against them or else they will exploit the cowardice of those who break ranks.

Posted by 0k0k0k 2005-07-13 13:21|| 2005-07-13 13:21|| Front Page Top

#12 Okay - these muslim extremists were satisfied with attacking their own country.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-13 13:41|| 2005-07-13 13:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Hammerin down that prozak keeps the kook outa okokok don't it?

Posted by half 2005-07-13 14:33|| 2005-07-13 14:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Really should be "MINDERMAST"

Peter Cook portrayed a chief inspector from New Scotland Yard who was being interviewed about the robbery by a BBC commentator, Dudley Moore.

At one point the chief inspector is asked if he knows who is behind the crime to which he responds, " We believe this to be the work of a mindermast."

He went on to explain that "mindermast" is the code word used at Scotland Yard to describe a "mastermind.

"We don't like to use the word 'mastermind' as it depresses the men," he explained.

Posted by bruce 2005-07-13 18:25|| 2005-07-13 18:25|| Front Page Top

#15 The 'Mastermind' exists becuase PC logic says the bombers both wouldn't and couldn't do this on their own. The 'wouldn't' fallacy is obvious. The 'couldn't' fallacy assumes most people couldn't construct a bomb unaided. The hard part is getting explosives and detonators. Making the bomb is the easy part. I am unconvinced there is a 'mastermind'. However, if there is, it is extremely bad news. People are assuming the bombs are a oneoff like 9/11 and Madrid. If they become a recurrent event we may well see a real response, rather than the PC blather to date.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-13 19:01|| 2005-07-13 19:01|| Front Page Top

#16 Because they were citizens, isn't the BBC obligated to call them insurgents?

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-13 20:37|| 2005-07-13 20:37|| Front Page Top

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