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2014-07-12 Iraq
Iraq Forces Executed 250 Sunni Prisoners
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Posted by Fred 2014-07-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iraq 

#1 take with salt, but if so -this is very noted.
Posted by newc 2014-07-12 00:29||   2014-07-12 00:29|| Front Page Top

#2 "A handful of extremists"
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-12 00:35||   2014-07-12 00:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Precisely why we should just let them fight it out themselves, then kill the last one standing. Savages
Posted by bbrewer126 2014-07-12 00:46||   2014-07-12 00:46|| Front Page Top

#4 bbrewer is correct. Quit this idiotic picking of sides and simply befriend both, until the very end. Think of the economic savings.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-12 07:07||   2014-07-12 07:07|| Front Page Top

#5 Civil wars are generally 'uncivil'. It was American exceptionalism that people seem to think that is the norm. Fort Pillow was the exception rather than the rule in that civil war.
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-07-12 12:00||   2014-07-12 12:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Iraqi? No. Shia? Yes. And this has been the problem since they let Maliki have free reign. He should have been taken out in a coup, with the military taking over. All the nation builders in the Bush administration were dead wrong about implementing a democracy - what was needed is a republic, and a federation, not a democracy.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-07-12 13:19||   2014-07-12 13:19|| Front Page Top

#7 They have been slaughtering each other for almost 1200 years and Human Rights Watch thinks a tut tut and a sternly worded memo is going to stop the carnage? Part of the delusional world on the left. Standing back and wringing hand and showing concern and having good intentions will not stop this.

It is interesting that Al-Baghdadi has proclaimed himself to be a descendent of Mohammed. Hmmm, I though the problem with the struggle between the Sunni and the Shia was that Mohammed left no descendants...thanks to the murder of Ali and his wife.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2014-07-12 13:20||   2014-07-12 13:20|| Front Page Top

#8 And this was made worse by Obama's withdrawal before the Iraqi forces were really ready to take over, and before their society had any real long-term functioning and was forced to be fair by the US and international forces there. It takes a generational change, like in Germany - where we maintained troops for decades. Obama tried to wave his hands and say its done, and let the majority Shia run wild (democracy = mob rule) -- all that in order to meet a political goal for gain for the 2012 elections.

Iraq is paying the price for Bush being stupid enough to let the State Dept idiots ruin the military successes in Iraq, and Obama for being an ignorant jackass and leaving Maliki in place with no check on his corruption and abuse.

Bravo for the Kurds taking advantage of this opportunity to GTFO of a failed state.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-07-12 13:25||   2014-07-12 13:25|| Front Page Top

#9 It needs more than a generational change, OldSpook, for Iraq to change. Unlike the Germany experience, Iraq has no traditions of any semblance to a republic. When you take over the show by military means, you then own the problem, if you want to change the country.

Most all of these middle east countries are dyfunctional, just like Iraq. It will take a number of generations to change. But you will not see change with this situation until the sunni and shia change. There are some fatal flaws embedded in this society that we cannot fix ourselves.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-07-12 14:33||   2014-07-12 14:33|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe I may have located the problem.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-12 14:56||   2014-07-12 14:56|| Front Page Top

#11 Mr. Spook has the right of it. The progressive left and State Dept. bozos all genuflect to the Euro idea of parliments and prime ministers. This strengthens the idea of "groupism", be it party or tribe or ethnicity instead of a system based on individualism where changing correlations of forces can provide a dynamic balance.
Posted by AlanC 2014-07-12 16:14||   2014-07-12 16:14|| Front Page Top

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