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2005-08-22 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by RG 2005-08-22 15:22|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sounds like for the most part they came up with some compromises. I will wait on the elation until we see what the document entails.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-08-22 16:01|| 2005-08-22 16:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Omar reports they will delay for three days. BBC hints at this in their headline, with no details.

Iraqi blogger 1
MSM 0

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-08-22 16:04|| 2005-08-22 16:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Regarding Islam and the constitution: it was agreed upon that no laws that are against the widely agreed upon values of Islam can be issued and no laws that are against the values of democracy and human rights can be issued.
Natural resources according to the draft will be managed in cooperation between the central government and the local administrations of the federal states/provinces

Sounds simple. I think I'm impressed.....I think. There won't be any conflicts between Islam and democracy, will there?

Posted by Bobby 2005-08-22 16:05|| 2005-08-22 16:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Committee has finished. Assembly now debates.

Posted by RG 2005-08-22 16:15|| 2005-08-22 16:15|| Front Page Top

#5 This islam/democracy tension will depend on who is making the interpretations. Laws are made of words: if you frame the words right, just about any law can be made to conform with islamic values.

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2005-08-22 16:19|| 2005-08-22 16:19|| Front Page Top

#6 I forsee a number of "you got peanut butter in my chocolate" "no you got chocolate in my peanut butter" debates in the Iraq Parliament...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-08-22 16:45|| 2005-08-22 16:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Also "Your karma just ran over my dogma..."

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-08-22 16:48|| 2005-08-22 16:48|| Front Page Top

#8 It looks like they, in the end, punted.

A vocal angry obstructionist minority who used to be in charge seems to be the problem. Sounds kinda familiar, actually.

Posted by Dave 2005-08-22 17:08|| 2005-08-22 17:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Hmmm....

Maybe all the Shias and Kurds could move here and all our lefties could move there.

Might work out well for all concerned

Posted by Kelly 2005-08-22 17:22|| 2005-08-22 17:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Yep,

The Assembly guys found that they also can debate the constitution rather than just vote on it.

In other words they found a Loop Hole

As some one just said, "By Golley, these guys are learning FAST!"

Posted by RG 2005-08-22 17:30|| 2005-08-22 17:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Time for redistricting...

Posted by .com 2005-08-22 17:59|| 2005-08-22 17:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Its been clear for a few days that the Sunnis wanted to block agreement and they have been sidelined and a deal cut between the Shiia and Kurds. I'm in favour of a federal Iraq, not least as an object lesson to other oil states to treat your minorities well or risk losing the oil. And BTW, I don't read too much into the Islam clause.

Posted by phil_b 2005-08-22 18:21|| 2005-08-22 18:21|| Front Page Top

#13 Redistricting? Man... that's like terminal in that zone.

Posted by Shipman 2005-08-22 18:38|| 2005-08-22 18:38|| Front Page Top

#14 I wonder how long it would take us to come up with a Constitution in today's political environment.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Cindy Sheehan: "And just why should we provide for the common defence? This country isn't worth defending! And this part about domestic tranquility is obviously a code for Bush's plan to repress dissent more than he already has."

John Kerry: "I have a plan for a better Constitution."

Howard Dean: "This thing would let Republicans vote!"

NYT editors to staff: "Get the records on any adopted children of the drafters. It's part of, uhh, our normal investigative process, you know."

Posted by Matt 2005-08-22 19:01|| 2005-08-22 19:01|| Front Page Top

#15 Ship, baby, you can redraw the map from the bar of your favorite dive in the Green Zone, man. It's about preventing the Sunnis from killing it. Note: They can do that with a 2/3 vote in 3 of the 5 provinces in which they have the numbers...

Posted by .com 2005-08-22 20:03|| 2005-08-22 20:03|| Front Page Top

#16 Exactal!

Posted by Shipman 2005-08-22 20:09|| 2005-08-22 20:09|| Front Page Top

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