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2007-08-08 Iraq

Iraqi Security Forces, U.S. Special Forces detain Shi'a extremist commander

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Posted by Fred 2007-08-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Mahdi Army

#1 Can we stop "detaining" these morons...and just KILL the sumbitches???

Posted by Justrand 2007-08-08 00:29|| 2007-08-08 00:29|| Front Page Top

#2 Actually, there my be a good reason to detain this sumbitch first.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-08 00:39|| 2007-08-08 00:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Justrand, okay, ya' right. I did not see the other detentions below, and unfortunately they are not the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" type (Original movie almost at the end, not that bad serial substitute).

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-08 00:53|| 2007-08-08 00:53|| Front Page Top

#4 As much as we're waxing AQI right now, we need to nail more of these Shi'a SOBs, especially in the south as the Brits get ready to ~~bug out~~ withdraw. We're beginning to convince the Sunni tribal chiefs that we'll protect them from AQI and the Shi'a, but the Shi'a people need to be convinced that we'll protect them from their own.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-08-08 00:59|| 2007-08-08 00:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Good point, Steve. All of which just reminds us of the central point - it's a war, wars are about security and above all a test of wills, and in Iraq in particular it's about who's going to prevail, which delineates the smart bets to be made by the populace. Do any high-falutin' "counter-insurgency" concepts appear in the foregoing? Didn't think so.

Saw somehwere that Bill Kristol is now wondering how Casey and the admin. allowed things to degenerate so badly in '06 without acting. Funny - that was the subject of innumberable DFAC lunch discussions all over the IZ back even into '05, before the Golden Mosque.

I don't much fear any serious "course correction" in September, but I do fear that while we're now at least doing something, even that is about half what's needed, and won't persist for long enough.

Posted by Verlaine 2007-08-08 02:34|| 2007-08-08 02:34|| Front Page Top

#6 the Shi'a people need to be convinced that we'll protect them from their own.

Forgive me, Steve, but the irony of your statement is simply indescribable. As America spends BILLIONS in the attempt to protect Islam from itself, radical Muslims must be falling all over themselves in hysterical laughter about our incredible naiveté.

Islam wants no protection from itself. Islam wants nothing more than incessant bloodshed, murder, slaughter, rape, inc*st, abuse, theft, molestation and capricious killing. Please let me know what redeeming aspects there are to Islam so that we might carry on with some sort of pertinent discussion.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-08 04:45|| 2007-08-08 04:45|| Front Page Top

#7 I knew several folks in Morocco who were far more generous to their fellow man than I.

Standing by the roadside in Morocco one day, with a French geologist, this guy comes out of a shack (literally!) nearby and insists we have lunch with him. The geologist convinced him our driver would be along momentarily, and he allowed us to have a glass of his tea, instead.

The same thing happened later in the day, in the city, where we were invited into a home for some tea. My maid brought me a large hunk of lamb she bought for the Eid festival commorating the sacrifice of Abraham. While lamb is not my personal favorite, I accepted her generousity.

Some of those folks are generous to a fault, and I think two or three are worth some effort, given the fact that our enemies would take a retreat as a victory - like Ho Chi Minh.

Posted by Bobby 2007-08-08 07:22|| 2007-08-08 07:22|| Front Page Top

#8 What's with this "rogue" shit lately?

The JAM are terrorist asswipes. So how is one of their mucety-nucks a "rogue" for acting like a terrorist asswipe?

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-08-08 11:02|| 2007-08-08 11:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Some of those folks are generous to a fault

I truly believe you, Bobby. However, are you willing to assign all credit for that to Islam? Personally, my own read would be "despite Islam", which just happens to preach your conquest or death.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-08 12:22|| 2007-08-08 12:22|| Front Page Top

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