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2012-08-15 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian attack submarine sailed in Gulf of Mexico undetected for weeks, U.S. officials say
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Posted by Beavis 2012-08-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top

#1 Reminds of an old Dream-Vision of mine to the Pentagon > "ITS CALLED THE OSCAR-CLASS".
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-08-15 00:09||   2012-08-15 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Claiming, it was there, but was it?
The claim's as good as it being there,if you don't KNOW.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2012-08-15 01:54||   2012-08-15 01:54|| Front Page Top

#3 From what I've read, the Coasties got it coming out.
Posted by tu3031 2012-08-15 03:14||   2012-08-15 03:14|| Front Page Top

#4 They'll never fire on Atlanta. Too many constituencies.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-15 07:08||   2012-08-15 07:08|| Front Page Top

#5 What if we did detect it early on? Why would we let on that we did?

Let Ivan believe he's safe.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2012-08-15 08:30||   2012-08-15 08:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Why would either us or the Russians want to admit the submarine was there, and whether it was undetected? That makes no sense. There is something missing from this story.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-08-15 08:39||   2012-08-15 08:39|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm a former ASWO. I find it hard to believe that between SATINT, SOSUS and assests in the area we didn't know it was there or on its way (assuming it actually was). They may not have had a fix on it constantly but i would bet money they had datums on it within tolerances
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2012-08-15 10:29||   2012-08-15 10:29|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm with Yosemite Sam on this one. Unless our SATINT and SOSUS have been SEVERELY degraded since the cold war, this sub should have been detected all the way in and all the way out.

During the cold war we would have attack subs waiting behind the SOSUS line like dogs begging for dog treats. Then we'd latch on behind them and follow them wherever they went.

This sounds like a funding story: "The Russians are coming! Don't cut our budget!"
Posted by Frozen Al 2012-08-15 12:29||   2012-08-15 12:29|| Front Page Top

#9 "The fact that the Akula was not detected in the Gulf is cause for concern, U.S. officials said."

I so totally believe that he would spill out something that must be top secret.

What do you think is better:

1) The Russians know they've been detected
2) The Russians don't know whether they have been detected
Posted by European Conservative 2012-08-15 13:23||   2012-08-15 13:23|| Front Page Top

#10 $$$

That is the story.

The Russians did not send a sub out of their base without a satellite seeing it leave. And where it went, it was tracked. And surprise, it went somewhere. Please, please, send the Navy money.

Pa-lease. Cry me a river.
Posted by rammer 2012-08-15 22:51||   2012-08-15 22:51|| Front Page Top

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