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2005-08-27 
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Posted by Seafarious 2005-08-27 12:14|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Give a call to the local American Legion or Veterans of Foreign Wars post, perhaps they can find some supporters to offset the nuts.
Posted by DanNY 2005-08-27 12:45||   2005-08-27 12:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Well the point is I don't want ANY advocacy groups soliciting at the PO. I don't want to run a gauntlet of earnest true believers every time I buy stamps...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-08-27 12:52||   2005-08-27 12:52|| Front Page Top

#3 To my astonishment, this seems to be legal.

Check this out:

The regulations do not prohibit members of the public from engaging in other forms of expressive activities on the exterior areas of Postal Service property that are open to the public. For example, leafleting, distributing literature, picketing, and demonstrating by members of the public are prohibited only in lobbies and other interior areas of Postal Service property that are open to the public. These activities are not prohibited on exterior areas of Postal Service property, such as Postal Service sidewalks and parking lots. More at the link.

If I stood next to them with a sign that says "I (heart) President Bush and I support the War in Iraq," how long would it be before I got shut down?

Try it and see. Report back.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-08-27 12:58|| http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]">[http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2005-08-27 12:58|| Front Page Top

#4 They used to be in downtown Boston all the time. I used to always ask them if Lydon was out of the can yet and back to working the credit card scams. I used to say it when there were a lot of people hanging around and I used to say it loud..
Posted by tu3031 2005-08-27 13:05||   2005-08-27 13:05|| Front Page Top

#5 You should first talk to the Postmaster, Seafarious, and then go up the food chain if you run into an appeaser. If they are on a sidewalk, then it may be a City problem. In which case, you will have to deal with their law enforcement folks. Success will depend on how they enforce the laws on the books. We are getting into a free speech issue here, so it could be a sticky wicket.

Lyndon LaRouche, eh? That guy and his groupies, have been around bugging everyone since Hector was a pup. The perpetual candidate.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2005-08-27 13:07||   2005-08-27 13:07|| Front Page Top

#6 How close to the doorway are they? Maybe they're breaking some city ordinance concerning fire safety.
Posted by Rafael 2005-08-27 13:16||   2005-08-27 13:16|| Front Page Top

#7 I agree with the advice to see if you can get a group to back you and work with you on this. The VFW or American Legion may have a friendly lawyer who would do a little footwork and file complaints in the right format, citing this or that code.

My experience with the LaRouchites is that they're nasty bullies when they think you're weak, but are pretty cowardly when confronted headon by a group willing to play the legal games.
Posted by lotp 2005-08-27 13:21||   2005-08-27 13:21|| Front Page Top

#8 Sea, when you talk with the postmaster, or postal inspector, cite Subsection 232.1 (h)(1) of Title 39 of the Code of Federal Regulations. There was a suit against the post office about five years ago on approximately the same grounds. The plaintiffs lost. Read USPS regulations prohibiting this activity on page 2 at the link.
Posted by GK 2005-08-27 13:22||   2005-08-27 13:22|| Front Page Top

#9 ref #8 the Appelate Court weighed in on the suit mentioned above. Link to their findings are here.
Posted by GK 2005-08-27 13:30||   2005-08-27 13:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Thanks, all. The PO is now closed for the day, so my ire has receded. Will ponder what to do for next weekend...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-08-27 14:01||   2005-08-27 14:01|| Front Page Top

#11 So...what's my next step? Call the cops, call the USPS, call the mayor, call the Washington Post? I'm open for ideas...

Napalm.
Posted by Colt 2005-08-27 19:50|| www.eurabiantimes.com]">[www.eurabiantimes.com]  2005-08-27 19:50|| Front Page Top

#12 Can you borrow a car with big boom base and with the 4th of July rendition of Stars and Strips playing pull up and park to where the bumper just nudges against the table legs ... as you are going in for A stamp.
Posted by RG 2005-08-27 20:56||   2005-08-27 20:56|| Front Page Top

#13 If your PO is typical, there are random dysfunctional carriers, possibly carying. Time to sequester arms, set up scapegoats...oh, shit, nevermind. We're on the good sucker side
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-08-27 21:30||   2005-08-27 21:30|| Front Page Top

#14 I got a dog that farts alot.
Posted by Red jr. 2005-08-27 21:59||   2005-08-27 21:59|| Front Page Top

#15 remind them tha Lyndon is a Trotskyite and one really doesn't want to see ice picks appearing in post offices.
Posted by 3dc 2005-08-27 23:33||   2005-08-27 23:33|| Front Page Top

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