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2017-09-20 -Land of the Free

What did Soetoro Know about Comey's Surveillance?

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-20 00:49|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 He was certainly briefed on it, perhaps by his own direction but did he "know" about it, probably doesn't have the capacity.

"Oh sure. Go do that thing you said."

Posted by Skidmark 2017-09-20 10:21|| 2017-09-20 10:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Awan wiretapped the Dems on behalf of who?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-09-20 11:10|| 2017-09-20 11:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Awan wiretapped for the Dems on behalf of who? Posted by Bright Pebbles

There, repaired it for you.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-20 12:11|| 2017-09-20 12:11|| Front Page Top

#4 But which dems?
Or do you think he packet sniffed ALL the house traffic?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-09-20 12:30|| 2017-09-20 12:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Butwhich dems? Or do you think he packet sniffed ALL the house traffic? Posted by Bright Pebbles

Properly conducted damage assessment investigations begin with the assumption of compromise and work backwards.

The Pakistani Awans had a capability that was technically illegal for the intelligence community (IC) to conduct. If you were an IC collection manager, how quickly would you be to shut down their unique collection capabilty, without first attempting to exploit or guide it? Might you want to monitor this capability for period of time, say 5 weeks, 5 months...... 10 years?

If the Awans were re-transmitting their collection back to Pakistan or elsewhere, and potentially receiving non-U.S. intelligence 'taskings'....might be something to keep an eye on and also attempt to exploit.

Strangely, or not so, the Awan case appears to have come to light about the same time President Trump took office.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-20 12:43|| 2017-09-20 12:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Strangely, or not so, the Awan case appears to have come to light about the same time President Trump took office.

Considering the timeline: The 'players' involved, the intelligence communities' already established positions and close relationship with the WH, NSC, and Cabinet. The legislative bodies, agencies, Departments, et cetera.

Arguably all both corrupt and incompetent. Were they not, we'd not hear of the Awans. At least not in the usual sense.

Posted by Pappy 2017-09-20 13:36|| 2017-09-20 13:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Arguably all both corrupt and incompetent. Were they not, we'd not hear of the Awans. At least not in the usual sense.
Posted by Pappy

Quite so.

Perhaps there was some difficulty in finding anyone willing to brief the incoming DCI on the project. Cleaning out old files, stuffing 'burn bags' etc. Just supposing....

Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-20 13:42|| 2017-09-20 13:42|| Front Page Top

#8 The Pakistani Awans had a capability that was technically illegal for the intelligence community (IC) to conduct.

But nothing wrong with monitoring a 'bent pipe'.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-09-20 15:37|| 2017-09-20 15:37|| Front Page Top

#9 If you were an IC collection manager, how quickly would you be to shut down their unique collection capabilty, without first attempting to exploit or guide it?

I suspect similar thinking is how we end up with all those "known wolf" jihadis.

Posted by SteveS 2017-09-20 16:31|| 2017-09-20 16:31|| Front Page Top

#10 I suspect similar thinking is how we end up with all those "known wolf" jihadis.

When you see the phrase (as so often is the case) - "He was on the radar screen of the FBI and the Intelligence Community".... you can pretty well take it the bank. Nadal Hasan and the Tsarnaev bros. were no strangers.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-20 16:35|| 2017-09-20 16:35|| Front Page Top

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