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2005-09-01 Home Front: Economy

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-09-01 18:04|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sounds like Detroit after a Pistons game.

Posted by BH 2005-09-01 18:18|| 2005-09-01 18:18|| Front Page Top

#2 I've never heard of cops being beaten back by the mob after a Pistons game.

More recounting of this idiocy here:
http://neworleans.metblogs.com/archives/2005/09/i_may_pop_a_blo.phtml

Has anyone seen the Bugtis in Pakistan during this disaster?

Posted by Dan Darling">Dan Darling 2005-09-01 18:27|| http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]">[http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 18:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Jesus.

One lesson I am taking away from this is

Don't have anything to do with 'official' 'emergency' 'shelters' and 'procedures' during a disaster.

(Can't leave the superdome until the "authorities" tell you)

(Can't take your pet with you as you evacuate on the official bus)

christ.

Posted by Carl in N.H.">Carl in N.H. 2005-09-01 18:47|| 2005-09-01 18:47|| Front Page Top

#4 The lesson I'm taking from this is:

1. You're on your own, kid.

2. I need to learn how to shoot.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-09-01 18:52|| 2005-09-01 18:52|| Front Page Top

#5 You need to learn to shoot because you are on your own. Standard issue here is 1 pistol per occupant of resident and one shotgun per resident of house. overabundance of ammo for same in portable and water tight storage.

The other thing I take away is shoot male welfare rats and punks on sight if they come around during a disaster.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-09-01 19:06|| 2005-09-01 19:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Has anyone suggested that the good people who are stuck there should somehow 1) organize themselves and 2) help out?

Corpses in the open? Put on a pair of rubber gloves and recover them. At least get them out of the water.

People need evacuation from rooftops? Get out and help?

People need help at the Superdome? Help out. Volunteer to drive a bus or a truck. Help organize local security. Help some of the old folks who can't help themselves.

For crying out loud, we're Americans.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2005-09-01 19:37|| 2005-09-01 19:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Jeez Steve! You oppressin', man

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-01 19:52|| 2005-09-01 19:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Before we follow the media into the abyss, let's keep in mind that this is the same media that has turned the whole of Iraq into a supposed hell. In fact, the majority of Iraqi provinces are not in conflict.

Additionally, the MSM will play up the thugs hoodlums while feats of compassion get little or no ink.

If you have never experienced being flooded out of your home and neighborhood in 96 F degree temperatures, with no known source of food, water, etc. then try it sometime before feasting on the red meat the MSM puts out.

The axiom that 5 perc of any sizable population is fruit-loops applies in N.O. and surrounds. But for the MSM, that 5 perc get 99 perc of the coverage.

Posted by Captain America 2005-09-01 19:57|| 2005-09-01 19:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Nagin is useless and has been from day one.
Emergency planning and the actual execution of those plans begin at local level. It is up to the mayor to request the proper assistance from higher authorities and to know where it is needed. From police and fire protection to the supply and sanitation situation at the Super Dome, the New Orleans city government has been AWOL from the start.
State authorities should suspend the city charter, dismiss Nagin and his crew of hand-wringing nitwits, and place all resources under the Governor. If she can't handle it, the Feds should take over.
I have been a mayor. I know that direct control is a very drastic step, akin to martial law, but the possibility of total failure at the local level is the reason we have "higher authority" in the first place.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-09-01 20:06|| 2005-09-01 20:06|| Front Page Top

#10 "A great American city is fighting for its life," he added. "We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism."

Mayor, I thank you for the jazz and music.

Posted by Secret Master 2005-09-01 20:26|| 2005-09-01 20:26|| Front Page Top

#11 The most serious crisis I had to handle as mayor was a freak ice storm that shut down our power for 3 days. This was a big deal in our neck of the woods, where it uusally snows a little about every fourth year. We kept the water supply going with an emergency generator (our little water plant had built-in provision for this). The chief of police, city secretary, myself, and a few other spare hands went around knocking on doors to make sure people had water, heat, and food. We brought them to the local high school and city hall if they did not. We also took note of anyone who had special needs, like medical oxygen, and made sure that this was provided. We moved them to the local clinic if this could not be done at home without electricity. There were no cell phones in those days, but we had CB radio and the police could communicate with the state authorities over their radios. We asked radio operators to alert their neighbors that they could summon help in a hurry if needed. It was a pretty miserable three days and I think I earned my 50$ a month salary at least that time, but nobody died and nobody went hungry.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-09-01 20:56|| 2005-09-01 20:56|| Front Page Top

#12 A plan:
Declare martial law under federal authority, shut the useless mayor and the befuddled governor out of the loop entirely. Chopper in troops to secure a number of strategically located evacuation pickup points. Bring in military engineers to restore sanitation and provide water at those points.
After that, ferry the evacuees out to the airports to whatever transport planes can be scrounged up to take them to fully secure shelters and housing areas further inland.
At the same time, another force of helicopters will sweep the flooded areas in a grid pattern, to pick up anyone who is still stranded. Marines and sailors in small boats will also sweep the flooded areas for evacuees and to begin the systematic recovery of the dead. National Guard troops and regulars, if necessary, will do the same on foot. Major assault ships like the ones heading to New Orleans have sizable mortuary facilities, though this is not heavily advertised for obvious reasons.
More troops will secure clean water distribution points once these have been set up by engineers.
Delta and Marine snipers will be deployed to put a stop to armed hooligans taking potshots at relief efforts.
Looters, profiteers, and roving gangs will be arrested or shot.
The arrestees should be taken to an internment facility at the edge of the flooded areas, the same kind of temporary pen we know how to set up for prisoners of war.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-09-01 21:06|| 2005-09-01 21:06|| Front Page Top

#13 Re #6 (Steve White): Having once spent three days after a hurricane with little to eat and mainly a little water from a less-than-pristine bathtub to drink, I can assure you that most people still in the area have much bigger issues than volunteering. It's easy to sit here and say what should be done, but imagine trying to figure that out if you're depressed, exhausted, hungry, thirsty, AND have little or no access to the outside world. No TV, no phone -- not even knowledge of what the situation is a mile away. I think we need to be a bit more forgiving. Most survivors are doing the best they can under the circumstances. The media is covering the flash points and ignoring most of the rest.

Posted by Darrell 2005-09-01 21:07|| 2005-09-01 21:07|| Front Page Top

#14 no looter prisoners. Justice on the spot

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-01 21:09|| 2005-09-01 21:09|| Front Page Top

#15 It took us two days to really shut down the looting in LA in '92 and that was in a city with all of its infrastructure intact.

The reality is that most of the looting is taking place in flooded areas. What are you going to do? Put soldiers and cops in hip waders? Everyone with a car and with a shred of sense left the city already or at least is at the Superdome. The people remaining are crooks, ghouls, and sickos (aside from shut ins). Most of them are probably from the housing projects. This will not get fixed until the levy is fixed and the pumps get started up. The fact that NO's administration is among the most corrupt in the nation isn't helping, but it will remain impossible to close decisively with the looters until the city is dried out.

Posted by 11A5S 2005-09-01 22:06|| 2005-09-01 22:06|| Front Page Top

#16 Darrel we're talking about people in the convention center safe area preying on other people coming to the convention center safe area. We are not talking about people holed up in their hotel room with a tub of water.

That convention center safe area cannot be jam packed with jerks. There has to be normal people in there. Odds are there was a rape and it was stopped, and its being overreported right now because the Mayor mentioned it.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-09-01 22:11|| 2005-09-01 22:11|| Front Page Top

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