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2004-01-22 Europe
Surprise witness delays verdict in September 11
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-01-22 12:14:39 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Dan, the German protocol gives no names, nor does the Spiegel. That it is Zakeri is pure speculation for now.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-1-22 12:44:25 AM||   2004-1-22 12:44:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 TGA yes thats quite true course if what "Zakeri" says its true well thats tantamount to a declaration of war between Iran and the US isn't it?
Posted by Val 2004-1-22 1:36:41 AM||   2004-1-22 1:36:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#3  They're harboring al-Qaeda's leadership, they've sponsored attacks on both our troops (in Iraq) as well as strikes on our allies (in Turkey and most recently Israel). I would also argue that in light of the NATO Charter Article 5 if Iran is indeed responsibe for or complicit in 9/11 than Iran is at war with not just the US, but all of NATO as well.

I would have argued that Iran picked sides in this fight the moment they started letting al-Qaeda flee into its territory after the fall of the Taliban. Since then it's only been a matter of when, not if, the other shoe is going to drop.
Posted by Dan Darling  2004-1-22 1:49:45 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]  2004-1-22 1:49:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Right you are,Dan.
Posted by raptor  2004-1-22 6:43:13 AM||   2004-1-22 6:43:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think we will bide our time until shortly before or after the re-election of Bush, barring any further huge disclosures or acts by Iran. It'll be Mussolini-time for the blackhats...
Posted by Frank G  2004-1-22 10:09:46 AM||   2004-1-22 10:09:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Consider:

In February of 2003 Zakeri told al-Sharq al-Awsat, "we had in our headquarters models of the [WTC] two towers, the White House, the Pentagon, and the CIA building at Langley".

Then in June he told Insight Magazine's Kenneth R.Timmerman, "It was a model of the World Trade Center, the White House, the Pentagon and Camp David."
Posted by Robert Stevens  2004-1-22 10:21:15 AM|| [http://alphabetcity.blogspot.com]  2004-1-22 10:21:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 There is a lot of talk among Rantburgers (fries with that?) about how Syria is the next target. I doubt it. Iran is a real threat whose rapidly developing nuclear program has the clock ticking. They will, or should, be the next target. Syria can be squeezed by Israel and Turkey, we'll take on the black hats.
Posted by remote man 2004-1-22 1:10:02 PM||   2004-1-22 1:10:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The renowned German Süddeutsche Zeitung now confirms that it is indeed Zakeri.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-1-22 1:54:10 PM||   2004-1-22 1:54:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 given the WMD issues, which have been blamed, fairly or not, on intel from defectors, theres going to be a lot of skepticism about anything coming from a defector on an issue as sensitive as this.


Lets hope the Iranians toss the black hats themselves, and we dont have to make the case.
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-1-22 2:22:06 PM||   2004-1-22 2:22:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The more I read the more sceptical I become. The only "evidence" for Zakeri's claim that Mzoudi was involved in the "logistics" of 9/11 is an encrypted email with blackened out sender, and only a copy of it is in the hands of the BKA. The translator can't read it. Zakeri claims to have received the mail from Iran in December 2003, and the mail echoes what Hamburg prosecution has said about Mzoudi.

I smell a rat here. The CIA didn't buy his story and refused to pay him. Zakeri turns to the French and they are not interested either. Now the Germans listen because they don't want Mzoudi to walk free.

I read that the chief judge seems to be very sceptical about Zakeri's credibility. The Mzoudi thing seems to be a little too obviously "out of the magical box".

That doesn't mean that Zakeri is lying. But I doubt that Mzoudi will be convicted because of Zakeri's hearsay. He never saw Mzoudi in Iran.

The whole thing raises a lot of questions though. What does the FBI/CIA know about Iran and 9/11? Did they send Binalshib's exoneration of Mzoudi to the BKA in order to achieve Mzoudi's liberty? So that they can bag him when Germany kicks his ass to Morocco?

After two years I think we should have a right to know more about 9/11 than we are told. That secrecy starts to piss me off. Who is protecting whom here? If a German court is trying a man who is suspected to have aided in the killing of 3000 people in the U.S. I expect more cooperation from the American side. These secrecy games can backfire easily.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-1-22 2:40:32 PM||   2004-1-22 2:40:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Knowing more about 9/11 would be nice, but probably not useful. Have the good patience to wait 50 years. We all have our own ideas about Saudi princes dieing of thirst, traffic accidents, and heart attacks. As well as Pakistani Generals dieing in plane crashes. But what use, other than personal validation, would having our suspiscions confirmed serve? Would it benefit national security, or help in winning the "WOT"?
Posted by Vea Victis 2004-1-22 7:52:48 PM||   2004-1-22 7:52:48 PM|| Front Page Top

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