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2019-10-12 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Cut off from US help, Kurds fighting a desperate battle against Turkey on their own, says a former commando who describes himself as ‘disillusioned' and ‘embarrassed'
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Posted by Whavimp Grath4899 2019-10-12 06:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 And again I ask, who shall fight the ⭔'s wars in this region in the future ?
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-12 09:16||   2019-10-12 09:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Someone in the Kurds must have POed someone high up in the US administration.
Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2019-10-12 09:47||   2019-10-12 09:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Syrian Democratic Forces is a lie. It's just a label that the unelected US government came up with to make their loose association of war criminals look better than the other loose association of war criminals.
Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-10-12 10:15||   2019-10-12 10:15|| Front Page Top

#4 "I think this is completely idiotic, from a strategic aspect," he said. "We have seized all of eastern Syria and isolated the Assad regime from the Russians and Iranians. Now we are just going to open a ground bridge between Iran and the Mediterranean. For what, because (Trump) says we are fighting other people’s wars?"

Trump's not wrong. We ARE fighting other people's wars, and for what? What benefit is there to the American people? None. None whatsoever.

These people are SO locked in to their tiny worldview that they can't see outside it. It's like they're playing Risk by Milton Bradley and all they can see is that Trump made them pull their armies off a territory on the board. And they're hopping mad about it, because the object of Risk is to conquer the entire world.

Our objective isn't to conquer the entire world. It's to make a better life for the American people. These people are just blind to this aspect of life. All they can see is "conquer the next territory".
Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-10-12 10:18||   2019-10-12 10:18|| Front Page Top

#5 I gotta agree with Herb on this one. Let the Russians ,TUrks and whoever else is in there kill each other. It's time too stop being the world police and and nation building shit when no one is ever grateful anyways.
Posted by chris 2019-10-12 10:23||   2019-10-12 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Whenever there is unity in the MSM about Trump abandoning the Kurds, it raises my suspicions.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-12 10:43||   2019-10-12 10:43|| Front Page Top

#7 My latest theory is that if Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria all contributed enough territory for the Kurds to have their own country that it wouldn't be long before the Kurds started fighting among themselves for control of the new country. Then all the Middle East hawks in the US, and all the Euroweenies who could never do it themselves, would insist that the American military intervene in the Kurdistan Civil War to keep them from murdering each other. Boy, is that a far-fetched theory or what?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-10-12 10:53||   2019-10-12 10:53|| Front Page Top

#8 No Abu, it's exactly right. Kurds ARE tribal.
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2019-10-12 11:15||   2019-10-12 11:15|| Front Page Top

#9 'And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.'
- GAWD

While I don't put much faith in Josephus' account of genealogies, the Kurds are supposedly descended from Assyrians and Turks, and them from Ishmael (?).
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-12 11:29||   2019-10-12 11:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Personally, I think Trump is just still PO'd because Saladin pwn'd Richard Lionheart....
Posted by Mercutio 2019-10-12 12:41||   2019-10-12 12:41|| Front Page Top

#11 It is not the fact that you pulled out: It is How you re-deploy that counts.
You don't just go about pulling pins off the map, Trump.

Learn some nuance
Posted by newc 2019-10-12 13:53||   2019-10-12 13:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Tar baby. Stay out.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-12 14:00||   2019-10-12 14:00|| Front Page Top

#13 You don't just go about pulling pins off the map, Trump.

Except what was pulled off the map was two small forward bases near the border. The main base, deeper in Syria, remains fully populated.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-10-12 15:05||   2019-10-12 15:05|| Front Page Top

#14 the Kurds are supposedly descended from Assyrians and Turks, and them from Ishmael (?).

Ishmael? The guy from Moby Dick?
/looks around for ghost of pappy
Posted by SteveS 2019-10-12 15:34||   2019-10-12 15:34|| Front Page Top

#15 ....who describes himself as ‘disillusioned’ and ‘embarrassed’

A Kurdish Democrat. Who knew ?
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-12 16:20||   2019-10-12 16:20|| Front Page Top

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