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2005-11-01 Europe
Fifth night of "unrest" in Paris
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Posted by Seafarious 2005-11-01 01:52|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Open Islamic rebellion against the 5th Republic. France knows what to do but she will not do it.
It seems France is to stupid to survive.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-11-01 02:44||   2005-11-01 02:44|| Front Page Top

#2 LGF has the link to the Yahoo slideshow. Very disturbing.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-11-01 02:53||   2005-11-01 02:53|| Front Page Top

#3 As Winston Churchill so said so memorably, 'Those who feed the crocodile will
simply be eaten last........
Posted by Caramba 2005-11-01 03:29||   2005-11-01 03:29|| Front Page Top

#4 This:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513137/posts

Is a link to a translation of a Danish article posted on Free Republic concerning seeveral nights of rioting in the city of Århus, containing this little gem:

"Saturday, a 16 year old from Somalia was jailed for comitting dangerous violence, because he attacked a bakery with large rocks. One rock barely missed the bakers face.

"We are tired of being oppressed. We are tired of the police raiding our parents. We are tired of the police stopping our cars, and raids us in public and damages our honour.»

"We are tired of the police beating up our friends, like they did this afternoon", screams the younf man with his face covered.

He calles himself 100 percent palestinian, born in a refugee camp in Lebanon, 19 years ago, and is now unemployed in Denmark.

"The police has to stay away. This is our area. We rule this place"
Posted by Thaique Ulith6641 2005-11-01 03:36||   2005-11-01 03:36|| Front Page Top

#5 Withdraw their benefits/welfare and the trouble will cease overnight. An Institute for Public Policy Research study of the 2001 Census (UK) revealed only 15% of all Somalis living in the UK were employed.

Failing that, start shooting.
Posted by Howard UK 2005-11-01 04:11||   2005-11-01 04:11|| Front Page Top

#6 Why do bad things happen to good people?
Posted by gromgoru 2005-11-01 04:45||   2005-11-01 04:45|| Front Page Top

#7 The Euros are dumb but they're beginning to see the light. Watch for quiet but steady and increasing numbers of expulsions back to country of origin.
Posted by mac 2005-11-01 06:06||   2005-11-01 06:06|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm expecting Cindy Sheehan to call for the withdrawal of France from "occupied Paris" any second now.
Posted by Mike 2005-11-01 06:15||   2005-11-01 06:15|| Front Page Top

#9 I hope the "Phrench" will have a lot of Hudnas in the near future because Hudna's are what the Mooslimbs need in order to get organized for the final takeover.
As a side point I advise the PC french police to avoid at all cost offending the "HONOR" of the Mooslimb thiefs, gang rapists, and believers, cause you know there's nothing more enraging to a young Mooslimb than offending his "HONOR".
It is unbelievable how low a western nation can get in order to avoid facing the truth.
Posted by Elder of Zion 2005-11-01 06:37||   2005-11-01 06:37|| Front Page Top

#10 We may too stupid too survive, as you say. But, we french will do it with style you Americans (pa-tooey) can only dream about.

Allan ahkbar!!
Posted by Jacques Chirac 2005-11-01 07:29||   2005-11-01 07:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Frighteningly, the rhetoric sounds like Cincinnati in early 2001.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-11-01 07:47|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-11-01 07:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Ahhh, and now for my favorite quote about France:

"I'd rather have the German Army in front of me than the French Army behind." - Gen George S. Patton
Posted by Uleating Wheagum6743 2005-11-01 07:48|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]  2005-11-01 07:48|| Front Page Top

#13 See also the Stratfor analysis cited here.
Posted by lotp 2005-11-01 07:59||   2005-11-01 07:59|| Front Page Top

#14 Sarkozy might want to study the US techniques applied to Fallujah. Or maybe the old Roman techniques applied to Carthage. France is at war with Islam, whether they admit it or not. A war with only one side fighting is still a war.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2005-11-01 08:05||   2005-11-01 08:05|| Front Page Top

#15 The quoted statistics about burnt out cars and attacks on police vehicles over the past year found in the second LGF post is amazing. It appears things are worse than you'd think. French culture has a whole lot more to worry about than the decline of the french language.
Posted by MunkarKat 2005-11-01 08:09||   2005-11-01 08:09|| Front Page Top

#16 If it weren't for the welfare reform movement of the 1990s, we would likely have some neighborhoods like that of the Paris suburbs.

a belated thanks to Newt
Posted by mhw 2005-11-01 08:16||   2005-11-01 08:16|| Front Page Top

#17 lotp: That piece you linked to is from Strategy page, not Stratfor. There's a major difference. Strategy Page is run by James Dunnigan (one of the founders of the old SPI wargames company) and knows what it's talking about. Stratfor is run by someone else, and peddles recycled conventional wisdom.
Posted by Mike 2005-11-01 08:20||   2005-11-01 08:20|| Front Page Top

#18 #16, Welfare didn't stop the chaos in New Orleans. It's all right there cooking away just benieth the Urbanian surface. You can spray paint a cowchip gold, but that don't make it a Kugerrand my friend. Keep your powder dry.
Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-01 08:21||   2005-11-01 08:21|| Front Page Top

#19 More pics @ http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=7421

Anyway, the "events" at clichy may make headlines (unlike for example the beating to death of a family father in broaddaylight by youths who disliked him photographing their 'hood), but it's business as usual.
Tidbits:
-According to what I've heard in a political talkshow, a BAC (antigang) policeman lost in hand during one of the riots (remember a police union evoked "civil war", and asked the gvt to send in the army).
-There was similar if not MSM-covered riots in Vaulx-en-Velin this week end, complete with stonings, firebombings and burnt cars (
- Also, business as usual (that is, urban riots) in the towns of Sevran, Bondy, Aulnay, Sedan (http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=7420 ), Agen,...

I repeat myself, but there are about 1000 riot-prone (as soon as police goes in) "no go zones" in France (monday in conservative Radio-Courtoisie I've heard a 1202 2005 estimate), with 30 000 torched cars a year; Sarkozy, the "talk the talk" interior minister (who wishes to enforce affirmative action geared toward muslims and have state-funded mosques) said so far 9000 police cars has been stoned, in addition to untold thousand of firefighters trucks, EMT vehicles, bus,... police stations are besieged on a regular basis, witnesses are intimidated, "gauls" have to "behave" or go away.

Point is, there is an undeclared intifada in France, raging since the 90's, and getting worse every year. Police has lost control of the situation, the gvt is fully aware of it, and lacks the will to remediate it, so appeasement is the way to go.

During the OIF run-up, I've heard a gvt official tell a talk show host (slip of the tongue) that the prefects and the RG (police intelligence) estimated that if France joined up the USA, the muslim suburbs would "explode".
I have not doubt this was very much taken into account when Shiraq and co made their mind.
Add the islamo-lefitsts movements who theorize the "post-colonial" colonialism of France, IE "ethnic french" are colonizers on their own soil and the true indigenous people of France are the muslim migrants (I'm not joking!)... And we all knbow that the duty of the oppressed indigenous native people is to rebel against the colonizers...
This situation is explosive, explosive; in away, this is very funny, because I'm a 50% believer in Eurabia, and it all makes sense to me; what's even more funny is the incredibly peecee french MSM, who are mouthpieces for the Arab Policy Of the France(Tm) and are so quite anti-zionist(welkl,they're leftists, too)... not realizing the ideas of anti-zionism also justify the revolt of our own self-styled "paleos".

France has built for herself an "occupied territories" problem! This is hilarious!
Posted by anonymous5089 2005-11-01 09:19||   2005-11-01 09:19|| Front Page Top

#20 a molotov or rock or bottle is a deadly weapon. Get serious, France, shoot the one's leading, close the mosques, stop the checks, start deporting the vermin back to their "homes"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-11-01 09:35||   2005-11-01 09:35|| Front Page Top

#21 GET OFF MY LAWN YOU BASTARDS!!! GO BACK TO WHATEVER ISLAMIC REPUBLIC SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM!!!
Posted by Suha Arafat 2005-11-01 09:39||   2005-11-01 09:39|| Front Page Top

#22 No, it's not hilarious. Not everybody in France is a PC Nutter, and a lot of decent people are going to get hurt along with the bad guys before France wakes up.
Posted by mom">mom  2005-11-01 09:40|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2005-11-01 09:40|| Front Page Top

#23 What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2005-11-01 09:43||   2005-11-01 09:43|| Front Page Top

#24 What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?

Oh, please. A European country allowing its citizens to defend themselves? They won't even let their police or military defend them!
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-11-01 10:24|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-11-01 10:24|| Front Page Top

#25 I'm afraid that the high cost of petrol in the EU will make Molitov cocktails too expensive for the average immigrant.
Posted by Master of Obvious 2005-11-01 10:49||   2005-11-01 10:49|| Front Page Top

#26 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:53||   2005-11-01 10:53|| Front Page Top

#27 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:53||   2005-11-01 10:53|| Front Page Top

#28 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:53||   2005-11-01 10:53|| Front Page Top

#29 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:54||   2005-11-01 10:54|| Front Page Top

#30 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:54||   2005-11-01 10:54|| Front Page Top

#31 >>What are the French rules for civilians arming themselves for self defense?<<

Well, a couple of hundred years ago they had a thing called the guillotine, which they used with surprising efficiency...
Posted by Glineter Thavirong8261">Glineter Thavirong8261  2005-11-01 10:54||   2005-11-01 10:54|| Front Page Top

#32 They also used the guillotine repeatedly.
Posted by DoDo 2005-11-01 11:17||   2005-11-01 11:17|| Front Page Top

#33 Bring in the cavalry and shoot to kill. Violent uprisings need to be violently supressed.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2005-11-01 11:36||   2005-11-01 11:36|| Front Page Top

#34 So what is Prince Charles' take on this Islamic unrest in Paris? We are awaiting his inbred pearls of wisdom with baited breath.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2005-11-01 12:11||   2005-11-01 12:11|| Front Page Top

#35 I'm also waiting until the French Islamist proclaim this an intifatah. Somehow, I doubt Le Monde or Le Parisien will call the jihadis the masquis.
Posted by mhw 2005-11-01 12:34||   2005-11-01 12:34|| Front Page Top

#36 is there any evidence this is actually islamist in direct inspiration, as opposed to hooliganism of unemployed immigrant youths (and i mean direct, not simply that Islam makes them less likely to be upwardly mobile than other immigrants, or whatever) Im not saying there isnt, id just like to see a link, to a reputable source, thats all.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-01 13:12||   2005-11-01 13:12|| Front Page Top

#37 "The natives are restless tonight!"
_Brits said it first and best...
Posted by borgboy 2005-11-01 13:14||   2005-11-01 13:14|| Front Page Top

#38 fyi bated breath.
Posted by Pheth Cheresing7306 2005-11-01 13:23||   2005-11-01 13:23|| Front Page Top

#39 Well there goes Canada because you just know the sane Frenchies are going to move to Quebec and make that problem expode again.
Posted by rjschwarz (no T!) 2005-11-01 14:11||   2005-11-01 14:11|| Front Page Top

#40 liberalhawk raises an interesting point. I noticed a lot of obvious non-muslim, non-arab types in the crowds. What other groups stand to benefit from this sort of thing and are they contributing to it?
Posted by Secret Master 2005-11-01 15:02||   2005-11-01 15:02|| Front Page Top

#41 Just taking advantage of a chance to stick it to LE HOMME!!!
Posted by tu3031 2005-11-01 15:23||   2005-11-01 15:23|| Front Page Top

#42 bated v. baited breath

It's Al-aska Paul. If he ate the worm last visit to the club, his bated breath would indeed be baited. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-01 17:10||   2005-11-01 17:10|| Front Page Top

#43 Are ya al certain this isn't a Scrappleface?
Posted by Tholusing Whoger3203 2005-11-01 19:39||   2005-11-01 19:39|| Front Page Top

#44 WOW! The links you attached were frightening! I can't/ but can believe what has happened in France
I've always wondered why Edith Cresson was kicked out so fast after her anti-immigrant remarks--maybe she was prescient?
Posted by NotMike Moore 2005-11-01 22:29||   2005-11-01 22:29|| Front Page Top

#45 Secret Master- The French ghetto, like the American, is famous for the ideas of victimhood by the government and that one should be free do do whatever feels good at the moment. This especially dangerous in France, where it is combined with a hotheaded Muslim culture. A perpetually angry person who lives off the thrill that "hurting the man" can be found all over the ghettos. The Muslims here are simply providing a good oppurtunity for this to be utilized.

"La Haine" (Hate) is a thought provoking movie when trying to look at the french ghetto. Compare it to Americas', and you will see some frightening similarities. La haine attire la haine...
Posted by SJB 2005-11-01 23:36||   2005-11-01 23:36|| Front Page Top

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