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2006-11-06 Europe
France : Hundreds of Youts mug their way through a subway train
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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-06 07:37|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Good.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-11-06 08:05||   2006-11-06 08:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Makes you kind of wonder what else is being blacked out in the name of multicultural tolerence....
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-11-06 08:18||   2006-11-06 08:18|| Front Page Top

#3 That is what happens when people lose the right to wear arms: they become used to rely on teh authorities for their protection and unable to take any initiative for their security and beat the crap of their agressors.

People who happen tpo be unarmed but, because they have weapons at home, have kept the mentality of confronting agressors instead of hiding until the police comes wouldn't have allowed themselves to be mugged.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-11-06 08:26||   2006-11-06 08:26|| Front Page Top

#4 In other words fellow Rantburgers fight nail and teeth for the Second Amendment or America will become the land of the cowards and the land of the slaves like Europe is becoming.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-11-06 08:28||   2006-11-06 08:28|| Front Page Top

#5 the land of the cowards

Yep, that would be me.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-06 08:40||   2006-11-06 08:40|| Front Page Top

#6 You notice the absence of similar problems in Switzerland? Maybe because of tight immigration policies and the standing requirement to have their assigned military weapon and something like 400 rounds of ammo in each home?
Posted by Procopius2K 2006-11-06 08:44||   2006-11-06 08:44|| Front Page Top

#7 In fact, Switzerland has its own problems of urban unrest, and an high part of its population made of migrants, but nothing like that, true.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-06 08:47||   2006-11-06 08:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Article: Look closely and you'll see that the Paris metro today is identical to an inner-city American public transport.

Actually, that's wrong. Subway muggings are pretty rare - at least in NYC. I suspect the Metro is probably cleaner, though - unlike Paris, which is subsidized by the central government, the NYC subway is fully funded by New York state. Which is to say it's not very well-funded.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-11-06 09:12|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2006-11-06 09:12|| Front Page Top

#9 I could see this happening on Muni or BART.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 09:22||   2006-11-06 09:22|| Front Page Top

#10 unlike Paris, which is subsidized by the central government, the NYC subway is fully funded by New York state. Which is to say it's not very well-funded.

It's also much older than the Paris subway -- it's the oldest subway in the world IIRC. It serves a city that has 4 times the population of Paris and surrounding areas of more than twice the population.

I'm not so sure we'd see this on BART or Muni, NS. It's been a while since I lived there, but I ride both of those systems from time to time when visiting family in the Bay area. There are a lot of immigrants that would fight back if harrassed this way -- not to mention some of the native born locals.
Posted by lotp 2006-11-06 10:08||   2006-11-06 10:08|| Front Page Top

#11 What I remember is how there are no windows in the banks built after 1967.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 10:10||   2006-11-06 10:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Oh that was during the Berkeley / anti-Vietnam days.
Posted by lotp 2006-11-06 10:12||   2006-11-06 10:12|| Front Page Top

#13 Yup, and the one place that hasn't really changed since then is Baghdad by the Bay. Look at the congressional delegation. But this

300-400 Youths were coming back from a public Halloween party; they started by pelting a police car, then entered the subway station; mass muggings of passengers involving at least 100 hoodlums started as soon as the train departed


reads like it could come from yesterday's Comical. The police might do a better job of putting it down, but I doubt it. That would be a career limiting move under the Newsome administration if they got your badge number.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 10:17||   2006-11-06 10:17|| Front Page Top

#14 I don't think the cops would be needed. The Chinese, Vietnamese and Hispanic immigrants aren't going to put up with this sort of thing.
Posted by lotp 2006-11-06 10:21||   2006-11-06 10:21|| Front Page Top

#15 The Chicago subways also are old and somewhat unkempt. However, we don't have the crime problem, mostly because the cops here borrowed a page from Guiliani's NYC program and immediately jump on the most minor of infractions.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-11-06 10:48||   2006-11-06 10:48|| Front Page Top

#16 Have to agree with lotp. I take BART every day into SF. The Fruitvale and Oakland stops see some nasty element which will work in your favor when a rival "gang" comes-a-lootin'
Posted by Warthog 2006-11-06 10:56||   2006-11-06 10:56|| Front Page Top

#17 Concord-Burlingame? And West Oakland would just join in. Sorry, but it's not my experience that the SF immigrants will stop anything unless they are directly threatened.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 11:11||   2006-11-06 11:11|| Front Page Top

#18 Another Islamic attack on the kufr's economic and social infrastructure, snipping another thread or two out of the fabric that binds us together.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-11-06 11:33||   2006-11-06 11:33|| Front Page Top

#19 "Vandals". "Youths". "Muggers". Paris is going down the toilet due to muslims and the French cannot even call them by their right names. Unreal.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-11-06 11:35||   2006-11-06 11:35|| Front Page Top

#20 lol! By the very nature of where they are located - our mass transit is located in the "inner cities". Try pulling this stunt in our subways or rail lines and it will be Shoot Out at the OK Corral. It won't be pretty, but I suspect there won't be many "youths" left standing.

If you don't have a gun, stun gun, pepper spray, knife, or other weapon to join the fray, you might want to get down before the shooting starts.
Posted by anon 2006-11-06 11:53||   2006-11-06 11:53|| Front Page Top

#21 lotp, Boston's subway predates New York City and like the NYC subwya there is very little crime on the sunway.I lived there for two years and there were only 2 reporrted incidents and one of those happened on the platform. This doesn't mean things wont change but I suspect the problems in Paris are more related to a certain "Religious" group.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2006-11-06 11:54||   2006-11-06 11:54|| Front Page Top

#22 Dang, I can't spell this morning, either.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2006-11-06 11:56||   2006-11-06 11:56|| Front Page Top

#23 Nimble,

You might be right but I wasn't referring to the immigrants per se but the inner city types that frequent the trains. Once overhead a discussion on parole hearings that seemed to be a common conversation among them.

I think the Islamic @$%#heads "mis-underestimate" our will to fight back when threatend directly (Flight 93?) At any rate...would like nothing better than to open a large can of whup-ass on them..
Posted by Warthog 2006-11-06 12:31||   2006-11-06 12:31|| Front Page Top

#24 I think it does depend a lot on which route you think of. But the one place in the US where one can imagine this happening is the Bay area. What the reception would be would depend on a lot of factors. I doubt we'll find out, thank goodness.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 12:45||   2006-11-06 12:45|| Front Page Top

#25 But the one place in the US where one can imagine this happening is the Bay area

I think there's at least an equal chance it would come in the Seattle/Olympia WA area, from the anarchists/anti-WTO crowd.
Posted by lotp 2006-11-06 12:50||   2006-11-06 12:50|| Front Page Top

#26 I thought London's subway was older than NYC and Boston's subways. I was in NYC two days ago; I was upset by the scratchitti. I'm worried that the trains will be going downhill again.

Deacon, isn't the new Boston fare card called the Charlie Ticket?
Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow  2006-11-06 13:00||   2006-11-06 13:00|| Front Page Top

#27 Does Seattle have a subway? Aside from that problem, I agree it is the other fertile moonbat territoty. Funny how those areas have a long tradition of it.

I remember sitting in a very prominent law firm's office with a plaque that noted that the room had been Harry Bridges' HQ for the general strike of 1934. And then there were all the Wobblies in the NW. It's never gone out of the blood. Must be the natural beauty and weather.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-06 13:00||   2006-11-06 13:00|| Front Page Top

#28 Seattle does not have a subway. We have buses, a train, some light rail in construction, and a defunct monorail (the trains collided and stuck in a narrow section of track a few months ago).

Fortunately, Washington has not let the Seattle mindset override the Second Amendment. WA is a good state for issuing CCLs.
Posted by Dar">Dar  2006-11-06 13:12||   2006-11-06 13:12|| Front Page Top

#29 Maybe CCLs, but remember the WTO riots; the ppl just stood around letting the youts beat the place up. i 'spect that King County would just let them go on and tear the place down rather than take a stand that required any sort of testicular exertion.
Posted by USN, ret. 2006-11-06 13:54||   2006-11-06 13:54|| Front Page Top

#30 Rioters love the press and notoriety.
Silence is golden.
The world is sick and tired of this nonesense.
NO MORE FREE PUBLICITY.
Posted by Gromotch Hupavique4150 2006-11-06 14:03||   2006-11-06 14:03|| Front Page Top

#31  I could see this happening on Muni or BART.

I can't, and I've lived in the Bay Area all of my life. If blacks tried this, the Latinos would go beserk. If the Latinos tried it, the blacks would get sideways. If the Asians tried it, blacks or Latinos would get down. Regardless, I'd have my Puma 270 General 4" folding blade out for some imprompteau surgery. There isn't the lack of diversity and enforcement like there is in France.

If and when such shit starts here, I'll apply for a carry permit and start toting.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-11-06 14:56||   2006-11-06 14:56|| Front Page Top

#32 Back on topic; This is what happens when people become sheep. The cradle to grave nanny state encourages but is not entirely responsible for this sort of cowardice. It also requires a de-emphasis upon capital punishment, lack of citizen militias and overall diminishment of individual citizen rights to foster this sort of inertia. The train should have arrived at its next station with 100 dead or ass-kicked yoots and some citizens who were curiously unable to explain how such a thing could have occured in La Belle France.

The French state's censorship of coverage relating to this incident is a crime against its own people. To not alert the citizenry about such threats to the public weal is malfeasance. When the MME (Muslim Middle East) is finally glassed over and we begin to sort out the collaborators, France's governmental elite must be put on trial a la Nuremburg for their collusion with Arab tyrannies to create Eurabia.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-11-06 15:08||   2006-11-06 15:08|| Front Page Top

#33 Me too Zen...my Glock 19 is nice and light
Posted by Warthog 2006-11-06 15:11||   2006-11-06 15:11|| Front Page Top

#34 People get kinda nervous when I get on a bus or subway with my axehandle, but don't say a word when I carry on my walking cane. Different primary use, same effectiveness as a weapon. It's not what you carry, but what you are that makes the difference. The military trains warriors, not gun-users. A pencil can be a dangerous weapon in a close-in fight. Aim for the eyes or ears.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-11-06 15:48|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-11-06 15:48|| Front Page Top

#35 Very true OP...car keys between the knuckles works in close also...
Posted by Warthog 2006-11-06 16:04||   2006-11-06 16:04|| Front Page Top

#36 OP is right; it's the attitude, not necessarily the weapon. A man with the backbone to defend himself and his loved ones will usually have made it a point to have the means to do so around but if not, he will have the imagination to improvise, attack and overcome.
Posted by mac 2006-11-06 16:05||   2006-11-06 16:05|| Front Page Top

#37 I had heard that during the last "spare-the-air" days in the Bay Area when BART was offering free rides to the general public that there were some problems, especially on the Bay-Point/West Oakland routes.

From what I heard there were a lot of extra people riding the system and some of these decided to take advantage of the situation against their fellow riders.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg  2006-11-06 17:44|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com]  2006-11-06 17:44|| Front Page Top

#38 I saw an old guy (older than me) pull out his belt with abig metal buckle and whipped the crap out of a mugger armed with a knife in Boston a few years ago. The mugger took off bloody and limping before any of us onlookers could come to the aid of the potential victim. Helped me to decide to take self-defense lessons and learned to use, keys, belts, pens, pencils, sticks, canes and anything else handy as a weapon.
Posted by jim 2006-11-06 19:21||   2006-11-06 19:21|| Front Page Top

#39 It's been a long time since I wore high heeled shoes, but thin heels can do a real number on shins and the top of feet.

Used it one time while on a subway at night. Scrape down along the unprotected shin bone and then stopped with the heel on the arch of the foot, HARD.

That's usually good for a couple seconds to get away, if the attacker hasn't been able to grab hair, clothes etc.
Posted by lotp 2006-11-06 19:28||   2006-11-06 19:28|| Front Page Top

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